Manchester United Rumours Archive August 05 2012

05 Aug 2012 22:16:11
Sly Sports sources claimed on Sunday afternoon that the Red Devils had now agreed a fee with Sao Paulo, but the Brazilian club's vice-president Joao Paulo de Jesus Lopes insists that is not the case.

"He will certainly return to Sao Paulo," he told Lancenet.

"There is no negotiation going on. As we have already said it's very hard for him to leave during the current transfer window.

"We have no interest in selling him but Sao Paulo are not stupid. We know that in certain situations you can't say no.

"But such kind of offer hasn't come yet."

The Brazilian Football Federation, meanwhile, says no English club has been in contact about trying to sort out a medical for Lucas during the Olympics.

"We haven't received any request from an English club regarding that," a statement from Brazil's FA (CBF) said to Globo Esporte.

"In case we do receive such a request, we won't allow the player to leave Brazil's training to undergo the medical."

Moura's agent, Wagner Ribeiro, has also insisted it is too early to talk about the player completing a transfer anywhere.

He said: "I don't talk about factoids. This news about the selling of Lucas is not true."

jred

Just as well. Why are we in for a guy that is benched by Chel$ki's new mercenary? Looks like Moura has a good PR guy talking up a good game.

Like I said jred until he's in a red shirt it's all bu**
PSY

Moura going to psg in January this saga just carrys on?

Remember everything being denied suits all parties except perhaps his agent. It suits United, Lucas and Sao Paulo for everything to be denied until it is completed. Bob Cass, Miguel Delaney, Sky (Freitus) and the Telegraph all putting their necks on the line. I have a feeling that when the editor speaks to his Brazilian friend he may well say a similar thing. Not a "done deal", but United are strong favourites at this point.

We'll see soon enough I guess.

Sydney!

05 Aug 2012 20:08:59
Reports from Brazil say that the Brazilian FA are not allowing Lucas to go for a medical. That he must wait til after the Olympics.

His agent continues to deny negotiations are even taking place. Like Ed002 would say, take what he says with a pinch of salt.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - The press statement says that they have not been asked to release Moura for a medical.}

The reports must be false then Ed. However everyone is denying everything at the moment, but to be fair they have been denying everything all summer regarding every interested club. Will they keep denying everything until deals finalised with whoever signs him?

Sydney!

Worth a try ;)

Sydney!

Well how come they let oscar go to stamford bridge for a medical, will u quit talking s***e

05 Aug 2012 18:03:45
brazil football federation have just said moura has not had medical today, they have not been asked for him to do so and he wouldn't be allowed to leave the brazil camp anyway, this is fact. {}

05 Aug 2012 15:19:39
Proud to say Vidic is officially back.

Yep he looking fit fingers crossed 4 the new season wellbeck missed couple chances

I watched the match and Welbeck had two good shots that the keeper made excellent saves from, maybe say that rather than he missed 2 chances, people that didn't see the game will think he was poor when actually he was pretty good.

GDS

I think Welbeck played well, especially in the first half. The keeper made two good saves. I really liked the right side, with Nani and Valencia today. Was good to see Vidic back, and I think (the little we saw) Kagawa linked well with his teammates... he hasn't been there for a long time, you know.

Steffen

05 Aug 2012 13:42:29
According to sky sports Lucas moura is close to joining. Fantastic news. Left back or striker and what a transfer window

05 Aug 2012 13:03:33
RVP have now made MUFC favourites to sign RVP. MUFC 5/6 JUVE 13/8 CITY 7/2

Since when did RVP give odds to clubs signing him?
MU93

RVP in self touting betting scandal. lol.

TAP

You cant get better advise than from the man himself!

05 Aug 2012 12:18:18
I like the idea of signing Lucas Moura but i would much prefer to be in the market for a £20million pound central midfielder and not RVP if the rumours are true, we could sign M'Villa, Sahin, Khedira, Dembele or Witsel for around that or even less.

We still may be in for those other players... David Gill & Fergie play the best MIND GAMES there are. Plus most deals will have a NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) attached. So Fans will hear when its prudent for MUFC to announce it. PATIENCE

We dont need a cm cleves is gona be great this season we always give youth a chance before we buy any1 unless its a great deal

weststandupper

05 Aug 2012 10:48:51
don't understand why we are (supposedly) going to spend 30m on moura, we already have 3 good wingers and kagawaw can play on the left if needed to.
shouldn't we be spending the money on the central midfield..

id rather spend 30m on moutinho than moura.

only reason i think we are after moura is if he does well for us his price will soar and real madrid or some other top team will pay stupid money for him.

He can be moulded he is still young

CAIN

It's because he has the potential to replace Ronaldo.

Red Joe

I've seen a few bits of footage of him online and watched him when he's played in the Olympics and I honestly think he'll be moulded into a central midfield player. Someone who can inject some energy in the midfield or behind the front man. Think Kaka in his prime. I might be wrong but that's the way I see it.

Matt

I don't know why everyone is complaining about buying Lucas. He isn't just a winger... He can play in the middle of the park as well just like Kagawa can play in midfield or just off the striker

This kids gunna be amazing, you won't be moaning about the money spent on him in a few months time. just wish we'd not already given #7 to valencia.

Andyred

Moura has the feet to be as good as Messi or Ronaldo guys ..hes top drawer and I for one hope we get him asap

You clearly havent watched the lad much, has the potential to be as good as Ronaldo and Messi, unbelievable feet, would be a great buy IMO
SC

If he comes in Nani will leave. although Nani has good stats it doesn't make up for lack of consistency and his inability to make the right decisions on the ball. he is not 1st choice on left or right and if Moura is that good then he will not see as much game time as he would else where. can't seel Real going for him though. PSG, Juve, spurs...

Moura has told the press that he would like to play in a central position in more of a CAM role.

Jake F

05 Aug 2012 10:32:30
How reliable is the telegraph?

Because they're saying that we should tie up the signing of Lucas moura in the next 2 days.

Philiphs93

The Daily Telegraph has a rumour accuracy of 26.6% but for United it falls down to 15.9%

Red Joe

Texts quoting % in them are generally 54.2% misleading, unless I am posting them where it turns into a generous 98.37%.

90% of cats prefer Whiskas. (9 out of 10 in old money)

Bramm

05 Aug 2012 04:13:23
Telegraph is now reporting the Moura story. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they one of the more reliable papers?

G.A.G.U.S

Id personally believe the telegraph over the rest GAGUS
Hallis

Ibreath live unithed.bring back ronaldo.roony is awsome.sign s coleman.

05 Aug 2012 01:24:22
I've heard a few rumours that the Qatar royal family are back in for us, is this true does anyone know?

Caol�n.

In all honesty we are the most appealing club in the world to buyers due to our huge profits which out do pretty much everyone if I am correct. If the Qatari's come in with an offer it will be to own the club and pay off the debt completely to make it a great business for them and to be competitive on the pitch also.

I would doubt it because they already own PSG. It would be interesting if we came up against them in the champs league. I dont want a bloody sugar daddy funding us anyway and with FFP coming in then at least the club will have to fund itself and make a profit.

Dan {Ed002's Note - It is not allowable to own two clubs outright that can meet in UEFA competition.}

I wish this was true I really do however if this partial sale of shares goes well the club could be valued at over two billion pounds, for that money a wealthy owner could buy a tin pot club and invest over 900 million on mercenaries and within a few years they will win the league

Yes but it would also make sense that they would be buying a club that is pretty much the finished article. No need to spend a billion on players on a club that lost the league on goal difference. Plus FFP would puts us well ahead on cash for spending. FFP if it works would ensure that having a sugar daddy becomes less relevant.

United don't need City style investment.
We need to have our debts cleared...thats all. If we had no debt, then we could spend freely, and spend well, and still have no probs with FFP.
Our turnover is massive, the football generated money at United would give us more than enough spending power, with our own money not a rich owners dirty cash.
But won't happen imo. Glazers have a well fed cash cow at their disposal, why sell when you can bleed us slowly for years to come.

"Tin pot club"? "invest over 900 million on mercenaries"? Surely this cannot re;ate to any club in the EPL. Oh wait .....
Mike B

Hi ed002,

not wanting to challenge your authority as i to have read the rulebook and understand where you are coming from, but a albanian consortium owns 20% of AC Milan and 80% of Bologna, so its possible I think. {Ed002's Note - No it is not possible and your figures are a little skewed. Read the words I wrote. Even replace the word "outright" with "controlling" and reflect on the 20% you mention.}

04 Aug 2012 23:26:40
Guys what would you rather seen Jessie Lingard stay an develop in the cups or go on loan to a championship club? I'd prefer him to stay along with Michael keane and tunnicliffe.

Caol�n.

Would definitely prefer to see them on loan, a full season of first team football is much better than a handful of cup games

I'd like to see Tunners thrown in at the deep end with Powell and used in the first team if only as a sub or against weaker teams as i think they would improve more around the stars and i think Lingaard and M Keane should be kept even if its only until January

I think after buying Powell then Lingaard has been sidelined sort of. Loan out Lingaard but keep Larnell Cole, Michael Keane and Tunners. Also involve Will Keane when he recovers from his injury.

Dan

He needs a loan tbh, he's looked great in pre-season but that doesn't mean all that much. He needs to prove himself with regular first team action but I'm certainly hoping he has a career with Uited ahead of him

Gav