Manchester United Rumours Archive October 07 2012

07 Oct 2012 18:04:50
brilliant win today, lets hope its a new start to quicker more dominating football...things bit different over on the scouse page today compared to the other night when they wer tryin to convince us they are brilliant and we are on a downward fall......we'll never die, we'll never die

How all of a sudden are they good theyre a shocking team , table doesnt lie.

You know most of the reason they were good is because it is a new formation that other teams haven't prepared against. The quality of players hasn't changed and apart from Rooney and RVP we have a very average squad compared to the other top teams in Europe.

Go and support them then ? jeez why put a downer on a good performance

I don't support a team because I think they have the best squad, I support united because I like them as a footballing institution (philosophy and traditions). IMO people that only support united because they win most of the time are not the kind of core fans that a club wants. By the way you are suggesting for me to support another club then I hope you are not one of those "fans".

Pal leave a name ...... We played well best so far an only to get better serious problems wit "fans" like you I support united because of this an that I support united because I love the club win loose or draw but there is nothin wrong wit sayin we played well so leave it at that ........

CAIN

07 Oct 2012 18:01:48
Great game, there were parts when I was biting my finger nails, but other than that everything was fine.

De Gea - Did good, clean sheet will boost his confidence, but as Neville said he needs to let the defenders knock the ball out.

Back 4 - Did great today after last weekend. Evra had a good game today finally, defended well and attacked well, nice to see him get a goal too.

Midfield - My oh my, having no wingers seriously does make a difference, Cleverley and Rooney both get MOTM for me.

Attack - Didn't see much of RVP hopefully he can bag a goal next game along side Rooney.

One thing I like is when one fullback attacked the other sat back, this has really effected our style of play and it's nice to have no goals conceded!

I am a happy man today my friends! Won't be in a mood all week now unlike last week! :D

-JakeW

SEems as If De Gea is trying too hard to come out and punch the ball away when he can remain in his goal. Still my no.1 tho

This was the first match we actually showed good enough tactical and positional awareness in a long time IMO! Long may it continue!

Dan

07 Oct 2012 17:57:05
Fantastic result, where are all the fergie doubters, tactics spot on! Few points here
1) how good were the back 4? Evra had his best game in about a year and rafael had Ben arfa in his pocket.
2) midfield were great Rooney was excellent pulled the strings, cleverly was my motm I thought he was brilliant and if he ment it goal of the season.
3) the strikers Danny was lively but couldn't hit a barn door but robin van Persie I thought was excellent, he held the ball well and brought Rooney into the game and delivered a marvellous corner for the Evans goal.
4) finally the keeper I think ddg had a difficult second half but his save from cisse shows why he should be number 1 as I don't think to many keepers would have clawed the ball out! He had a mixed bag.
All in all a great performance and a fantastic result. Your thoughts guys?

Caolán.

We were doubting him because he put out a wrong lineup last week and many other games in the past. When I say this team I knew we had a chance to win this game and would play well.

Cool down boy! Giggs still there, Nani, Young and Valencia. Fergie is not a tactical wizard and everybody knows it. This game does not mean that he quickly became a Master.


Good game by the way and great result. Welbeck needs to learn how to score and Cleverly(crazy game), I hope he can build feom that!

Funny how as soon as SAF decides not to play winners we can keep the ball and play good football.

07 Oct 2012 17:54:56
If Hernandez had done everything Danny Welbeck just did in those 90 minutes, he'd be slated for being an average finisher, having the touch of a donkey and being an overall poor player. It's a shame what you can get away with when you just happen to grow up a few miles away from the club. Absolutely pathetic performance. No wonder we want Lewandowski next summer.

I agree! Yet he played the full 90mins! Wtf! If u swap hin with valencia and play rvp further upfront then we would be more of a threat!

Spot on mate welbeck is a good player but he will never set the world o fire or win u a game on his own RegTheRed

One bad game does not define a player, he has played excellent this season.

Jake F

Jake F,
Name a game this season where he has even scored for us or England? We aint just talking one match here.

I would much rather see Welbeck go than Chicha.

The difference is Welbeck always looks a threat and has a lot more to his game. If Hernandez plays poorly he doesn't even touch the ball for 90 minutes

As long as Chicha scores a goal then it doesn't matter he is a poacher and 95% of what a striker is there for is to score goals. Not scoring at all this season is pathetic given the amount of games he has played!

Have you not been watching United this season. Welbeck has operated on the left in most games and hasn't featured in all games. Not sure how you can complain as it's not that we haven't been scoring enough goals, it's the number we concede that is the problem {Ed004's Note - Thought the commentator said he has played in all pl games this year. If so he should have atleast a goal to his name tbh}

07 Oct 2012 17:54:06
Thats what you get from De Gea fergie. That save at 2-0 was crucial. GREAT SAVE!! IMO Lindegard would not have saved that.

James

No he wouldnt but lindegaard would have caught or punched the ball before that

Lindergaard wouldnt of let the bal get that far! Mikestar

07 Oct 2012 15:23:25
confirmed lineup
Starting XI: De Gea; Rafael, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra; Carrick, Cleverley, Kagawa; Welbeck, RvP, Rooney
Subs: Lindegaard, Scholes, Valencia, Anderson, Giggs, Hernandez, Wootton

shahram

07 Oct 2012 11:08:27
like many on here i have to admit i am aprehensive about todays game, depending on what line up we go with. This is a new feeling. The only games i've ever been worried about before is our yearly trip to anfield because its them and they always raise their game, our yearly trip to stamford bridge as the ref is usually martin atkinson and there's always some controversial bad decision against us with him, and champions league finals just because of the occasion. But worrying about playing spurs and newcastle? This highlights whats wrong with our team. We have too many players who are passengers. What does evra have to do to get dropped? How does anyone on the coaching staff think Giggs in central midfield is a good idea? A player who's chief attributes were pace and dribbling. And now the first one has gone so the second has followed. Rio is clearly struggling and he's only really in the team as all the other centre halves are injured or too inexperienced. Which leads to the question why do so many of our defenders pick us injuries? Last season they were all injured at some point apart from evra. Back to midfield scholes can't play two games a week never mind three and i feel he shouldn't be starting he should be coming on to keep possession and see out games. Hopefully all four will depart in the summer as the squad needs a major shake up. But this depends on the manager. As both Red Man and Mort have said i can see the parallels with brian clough at forest. I think the manager is too scared of doing a liverpool and dropping out of the champions league so is going with tried and tested experience. However this is likely to backfire. I'd rather see us not worry about it and just play the youth in as many games as possible. Write off the league for this season and blood the kids. They'll be better for the experience and it shows them they have a future. We can sort out who will make it and shop window the rest.

07 Oct 2012 10:43:30
German sources claim that Man United are readying a 28.5m bid in the January transfer market for highly rated Borussia Dortmund defender Mats Hummels.

07 Oct 2012 00:57:10
Anyone else think we should ship Hernandez out? I really can't stand him, he has good movement, but that's it, always off side, touch of a donkey and can only score tap ins... Don't get me wrong, whilst he's still in a united shirt i'll cheer him on, but he isn't good enough for us.

Jake F

Do not agree with your statement, however
if we was to sell Hernandez theres only one striker out there in my mind i would really want to wear our colours, Falcao!

NOT a Franco Di Santo liike some one had suggested on the previous post or Lewandowski as i think both of these players are well overrated and are not United quality..

While i am suggesting replacements, i also think we should replace Nani with Ben Arfa.. coz hes a BAWSE! NOT Tom Ince, but buy Ince for future and also to annoy every Liverpool fan out there..

CalamityManc!

Theres nothing wrong with hernandez as a fourth striker, not least because of the variety he provides being a poacher. Dosent have the technique or control of a world class striker, but has plenty to offer. Speed, off the ball movement and the ability to score goals is enough for him to be a good player at champions league level in years ahead, and thats an ideal fit for a player making 25-30 games a year, many as cameo's from the bench. If he's happy with that and loyal like solskjaer was for us, then he could end up being a great asset, just as players like neville and park were, who didnt have the greatest ability.

Why get rid of players that love the club and give 200%?

TRUMORS

Totally agree jake rvp is our fox in the box now and chico cant pass or go past a man think we could get good money for him to be used elsewhere

I agree that hernandez isnt the best football player we have but what he does is create space on the pitch for our better players to operate in and he closes down opponents quicker then any on else in the team and gives us some much needed energy upfront. Just because hes not scoring 30yard screamers every week does not mean he dosent improve our team. I believe we are a better team when he plays for these reasons alone. Hes better then welbeck any day of the week.
G.N.G

The thing is Chicha knows he doesn't have great ball control, he is kind of a one trick donkey and he knows it. He's excepted the role of super sub which is good enough for me, as he does have sublime pace and movement great at the end of certain games when opposition defenders start to loose concentration etc.

Ozwald

Strikers get played to score goals chhicos 1st season was great second season average this season so far poor.his allround play is poor and cannot seem to stop his bad habit of always being offside.i would think he will be given this season to prove the doubters wrong but if he doesnt come up with the goals then i think he will be sold.i also think danny could find himself in a similar situation by next season.if we are interested in lewandoski and will keane comes back fit and full of goals as well as henriquez then there will be a lot of pressure on our 3rd and 4th choice strikers.
johndenton

In the end Chichas scoring record is pretty much twice what Welbecks is and I think Welbeck gets off really lightly by everyone. He has quick feet and can run forwards but other than that he is Nani-esque with how pointless he can be. 0 goals this season is pathetic for a united attacker with Rooney, Scholes and Carrick to set you up. I would much rather see Welbeck leave than Chicha.

Dan

He is a class player. he is always offside because he plays on the last man and making runs in behind the defence and streching them that is the game he plays.he scores tap ins because he attacking postioning is so good.dont put this up on this website when you dont no what your on about and he is still at quit a young age and still got alot to learn!