Manchester United Rumours Archive November 08 2012

08 Nov 2012 20:24:14
think lindgard ( sorry about spelling ) has don de gea some good few starts in a row built his confidence and saw on here other day who would we prefer as a cb subatic hummels or ramos for me it would be ramos lots expirence at top level and would settle de gea even more any body got any diffrent players that would be good buys?.

jwberry

Dede of Sao Paulo would be a great buy.

Dan

What do you mean by ''Lindegaard has done De Gea a good few starts in a row built his confidence''?

I think he means as Lindegaard Was injured, all the playing time that De Gea has received has done him the world of good, not to mention his confidence should be sky high right now with all the brilliant performances he has had... Because of Lindegaard being injured.

CalamityManc!

Yeah did mean him getting injured.
jwberry

08 Nov 2012 20:07:59
Thought this for a couple of years now.... I really think this is the big man's last season. I think Sir Alex, Giggs and Scholes will be retiring in the summer. Let's wait and see. But what a trio greatness right there! Testimonial could be pretty special....

Whistler.

Should be v a world xi or maybe an ex world xi eg fat ronaldo canavarro zidane etc

SAF says Giggs will sign for another year

Pardoe

Im hoping that at least one of Messi, Xavi or iniesta would play in Scholes' testimonial as they have a massive amount of mutual respect.

SAF has said more than once that he thinks Giggsy will or could stay on for another year or two so i don't think he'll retire at the end of this season. Scholes though, i can see it happening :(

Ozwald

How in the heck can you justify keeping Giggs.

He is sub par and prevents other good and young players (anderson, clevs, reserves/youth) from getting games.

Just stupid if he signs on.

TomBomb

Though the level of his Giggsy's performance has dropped sharply, he's worth keeping around for his dressing room effect. He has a calmness, experience and a quality as a human being all to rare in football these days. He's the kind of guy that should only be used as a sub for 20 mins to keep all calm. I think that he will decide to go, along with Scholes at the end of the season. He will be kept in some kind of coaching role. I hope the SAF stays around for one or two more season and beds the new team in. With Wanyama maybe coming, the like of him Rafael, Kagawa Smalling,Jones,De Gea,Henrique, The Keane brothers,Petrucci and others still need to be moulded into a unit, where together they become greater than there talented parts. When SAF leaves I expect David Moyes to be his replacement, not my favorite, but highly respected by SAF and many at OT. To be fair to Moyes he's made Everton a strong unit on an average spend of a few million per year. If he does come, I hope he brings Fellaini with him. Fellaini can play anywhere from Centre back to center forward and everywhere in between. He is one hell of a complete player. I guess a lot on here would want Pep or Mouriniho, but i can't see Pep coaching outside of London if he comes to the EPL and I don't think the Glazers would be prepared to spend the amount Mourinho would want.
Mik

If we get Moyes as manager you can kiss goodbye to champions league football. not good enough nowhere near it. Did we not learn from the 70's?

Scholesy's already had a testimonial against the new york cosmos.

Aaronaldo7 {Ed002's Note - He may be allowed another next year.}

I don't believe he will retire as I think he is 2 or 3 players away from challenging for CL and knowing how obsessed he is with the fact that he should have won more CL trophies, I believe he will be looking to buy the missing pieces this summer and have another season to get that illusive 3rd trophy.

The only thing that will change that is if we win it this year by some divine intervention :)

Shahram

08 Nov 2012 15:26:42
Just a quick note here based on SAF's comments about wanting to match Liverpool's CL haul. I think that we have the ability to win it this year without a doubt due to our forward line. However some think that SAF will retire if we do - in my opinion he will stay one more year to try to retain it thereby doing something that has never been achieved and also matching Liverpool. This would also mean that Mourinho is more likely to take over than Guardiola as Guardiola will be in a new job with in a year whether it is our managers job or not.

Fresh!

Sorry Fresh i completely disagree with you. We are not strong enough in the midfield area and our ball retention in Europe isn't good. We contactly give the ball away, look at last night it was terrible upto the lights going out in the stadium. The opposition that we are beating in Europe at the moment isn't exactly great and we are relying on our forward line to pull us out of the sh*t.
I think there are 4 or 5 much stronger sides in the competition this year than us.

Simmo

Get used to it, the Spaniard is coming - next year.

Aesop

Fresh with all due respect, no chance we can win this year.

shahram

Agreed shahram. Very unlikely we can win CL this year. Barca bayern or Dortmund.
NoMidfield

I disagree, I would say that with a full defence we will be very solid at the back. Up top we are as good as anyone. I think to win it though we probably will have to play 4-3-3 and in away games we'd need Jones in midfield. Whilst this team could be improved, I think that this could be good enough to win it if people play to their full capabilities...

________DDG
Rafa__Small__Vidic__Evra
__Kags__Jones__Clevs
_______Rooney
_____RVP___Chicha

I think if players played to their full capabilities we will do well. Anderson of course should play quite a lot - he was a big part of a CL winning side, if he stays fit he will be a good asset.

Fresh!

NoMidfield, not including Real in that list? I'd put them up there despite the result on Tuesday.

Dan

Not a bad lineup fresh but i would play anderson and clevs infront of jones.. and a front 3 of rooney - rvp - kagawa...

no room for chico to start for me sorry

oxred

--------------DDG-------------
Raf----Smalling---Vidic-----Evra
-----Jones--Carrick--Scholes---
-----Rooney----------Kags-----
--------------RVP--------------

I really want to play a 4-3-3 and this for me is the best line up. I don't like Jones in a 4-2-3-1.

Fresh
we have a great forward line but thats no good if we haven't got the ball and thats our biggest problem in europe.
europe is more tactical and possession is key and our midfield is not good enough.
chelsea proved last year that anything is possible but the truth is united city and chelsea are some way behind the best in europe
jred

Actually i have the feeling that Guardiola is already lined up for next season.

Jones in midfield is a bad idea, i remember last year he played there and looked lost.

Pep won't come to United, he'll go to Chelsea,Arsenal or Spurs. Both his agent and himself, keep stating that Pep would want to coach in London if he came to the EPL. I'm not even sure just how good a coach he is. He was a fine player and is obviously a talented coach, but Barcelona are a whole system, a whole network of coaches. A completely different construct to any other team, Pep contributed to it, but how much is difficult to measure. Except for the loss against Celtic, Barca have had an amazing start without Pep this season. 28 points out of 30 their best start ever. Because of the great Respect SAF and other at OT have for David Moyes, I expect he will become United's next manager in the 2014-15 season. I'd love Ole to be our next manager, but then I'm a helpless romantic
Mik

Dan, Real will be there or thereabouts but I always see sending off in their ranks. Also if Ronnie not in the mood then the team suffers. Dortmund passed it very well at bernabau and could have won the game if they took chances. But I think bayern are the ones to watch.
NoMidfield

There are a few other teams that also have a chance. No one is talking about PSG with Moura joining them in January will be interesting to see what impact he has on the team. If we go by the best teams out there today, it would be this list;

1. Barcelona
2. Bayern
3. Real Madrid/Dortmund
4. Porto/Shaktar
5. Chelsea/United
6. PSG/Juventus

I still believe we will go out in the quarters depending on the draw and the way it looks
at the moment we have to avoid chelsea and real madrid in the first knock out stage.

Shahram

Shahram we cannot draw chelsea in the first knock out stage, as no two from the same country can face each other in the group stages and the first knock out round. We just have to look to avoid madrid. I honestly think we can win the champions league this year as long as we have a fully fit squad. I believe we have what it takes to beat madrid as they do not exactly have a great defence.

kdevil10

Kdevil

Thanks as i thought it was only in the group stages. Madrid have injuries at left back at the moment but as a combination of back four and 3 midfielders, I would take their players over ours. I am just being realistic and if English teams performance is in Europe is anything to go by, I am not that optimistic.

Although we are leading our group, it must be said that the teams in the group are quite average and beating them is expected.

Shahram

08 Nov 2012 13:34:58
Ed's, is there any intrest for David Alaba from Man Utd. Player with loads of potential..
RD27 {Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware of.}

07 Nov 2012 13:54:32
What r peoples thought on iturbe as a left footed winger?
Having a nick name of next messi( i personally dont trust this lebels) isnt he worth there? I m not following him or portugese liga.. Can any1 tell me how he is doing there? Has he shown any class which put him under united probable list?
Ed 002 ur view is required. Havent anything to u since very long.
Wil he be available in summer?
Rodio17 {Ed002's Note - There is nothing really on Iturbe at all and certainly nothing related to Manchester United right now. I would very much doubt a move in January is a consideration at all.}

I've always liked the look of him even before he moved to Porto. Apparently his father came out and said that he's unhappy there because he moved there to get game time as that is usually the policy at Porto (playing youth) but then AVB left and the new manager was not as interested. Not sure if thats the case now but he's definitely one to look out for.

Ozwald

Cheers for the clear view ed..
Rodio17

Hes a gd future talent will proberly go to a small team for pennies then cost millions later on we should go for him now or mayb porto are expecting james rodriguez(sorry about spelling) to be sold so he will replace him!