Manchester United Rumours Archive July 09 2011

09 Jul 2011 23:18:02
Got a friend in the know who reckons it's a dead cert united to sign wilshere, apparently Wenger will sacrifice him and boost cesc and nasri wages

No chance sorry to shoot you down but think arsenal would rather lose nasri who is holding out on signing a new contract than wilshere who is arsenal through and through and will become a great player in time there is a good chance wilshere will be a 1 man club like scholes and giggsy

09 Jul 2011 22:53:57
We're in for Sneijder. Is it just me that thinks we don't need him. He'd be taking Rooney's position.

I'd prefer a deep lying play maker like Bastian Schweinstiger or Daniele De Rossi.

Any one agree?

Im kinda with ya on this one mate Im just not sure about him for various reasons.
His age his price his wages the fact he didnt really hack it at madrid.
Im just not sure I hope im wrong he could be brilliant for us I just hope he can do it in EPL and suits our style of play.

Red Knight.

Both would be nice but if given the chpice i would take Nasri in the creative role and Bastian Schweinstiger lying deep, he is a tank no tippy tappy Barca getting thru ther but this is a dream we prob enfit will end up with Defour or Rodwell :/

With both of you not sure about sneijder myself would much prefer nasri if given the choice he is still to reach his peak where as sneijder is at his already and the league in italy is very slow compared to the english league

09 Jul 2011 22:08:18
Contrary to what I said the other day, it would appear Darron Gibson has not had a medical at Stoke City. Sorry

United Till I Die 1987

09 Jul 2011 21:46:18
RYAN GIGGS IS GOING TO ANNOUNNCE THAT HE WILL RETIRE BEFORE THE START OF THE SEASON

If giggs is gonna retire why go on pre season to america to get his fitness i wouldn't bother if he's gonna hang up his boots

09 Jul 2011 21:14:34
Seriously, why do people post rumours on this page from Goal.com, CaughtOffside, talkSPORT etc. I know it is a rumour site and all, and I don't mind rumours from the papers, but the 3 above make up rumours. Just ignore those sites.

G.A.G.U.S

Totally agree it's been said a few times on this site but the best papers for football rumours are the guardian independent and the times personally i don't buy any of the 3 mentioned but they are the most reliable

A totally absurd observation. All rumors arise from imperfect information regardless of the source. Classifying them as more or less legitimate when they come from relatively well-known sources is capricious.

Vulcan

Vulcan nobody saying that any source is legit but places like goal.com just sit there and make up rumours off the top of there head all these post were saying is that if you want somewhere for information that might have a shred of truth in it then theses are the places to look or not to look...i myself don't believe a signing till i see it 100% official on mutv but the said guardian and the other 2 get them right more than the other papers which i think share information with goal.com

You seriously think newspaper rumors are better than the ones on the afforementioned websites? They all make up certain rumours and speculate and rarely are they correct.

Yeah i trust the guardian independent and the times more than i trust goal.com or the sun mirror and daily star the guardian reported what was going on with nasri a few days before sky sports news broke the story of a verbal inquiry by united then arsenal confirmed what the guardian said where as if what goal.com and the sun reported had any truth to it nasri should have been signed sealed and delivered as a city player on thursday

Think vulcan must work for the sites were rubbishing either that or the news of the world and is looking for a new job he could be a journalist he as a very wide range of vocabulary i had to get a dictionary out for a few words he used lol

09 Jul 2011 20:02:49
From SSN Transfer Centre....

Relegated Argentine giants River Plate have been forced to sell highly-rated teenager Erik Lamela to Roma for around 20 million (£17.7m).

Ends our interest in him, if we had any serious interest in the first place. {Ed002's Note - There was never any interest as his questionable third party ownership meant a move to England was nada.}

09 Jul 2011 17:23:52
Gibson is not going on the USA tour as he is going to wrap up a move to Sunderland or Stoke over the next week.

Yeah this will be wraped by Weds according to sources the delay was due to late interest from newcastle who offered Gibson a better salary than Sunderland, but Brucie is determined to land the player

09 Jul 2011 16:37:36
@ Darklard08.

Vidal has not signed an extension at all. Bayer offer on the table at Xmas was an extension to 2015 but after press speculation he had signed it bayern sounded him out and enquired in Jan. His agent then told the club he wants move to bayern in summer and they bid 10m as soon as the window opened. Bayer rejected it saying they wanted to keep him and wouldn't sell to their big rivals. Next came interest from Napoli who after inquiring seem to have dropped their pursuit and as recent as just before the Chile team got together his agent again mentioned Bayern as a preferred destination.

Either way for £10-15m this guy has to represent one of the better deals to be had this summer and in a position we really need strengthened so IMO we should be interested but unfortunately nothing seems to be pointing in that direction.

Jono

Don't know much on this guy but people on here seem to rate him highly and yes the money been quoted is pretty cheap for todays market so i gotta say it's worth a shot.... HERBIE

Maybe because although Bayer would prefer to sell to a foreign team such as us or Napoli rather than a domestic rival like Bayern; maybe Vidal himself only wants the move to Bayern.

Perhaps this is why Napoli seem to have dropped their interest? Maybe they enquired, Bayer said they were willing to sell, Napoli spoke to the agent and were told the player is not intersted and only wants Bayern?

Supposition i know but maybe quite likely?

Maybe we spoke to the agent and got told the same? No proof but again a possibility?

Rincewind.

@ Rincewind.

Its defo possible but the prospect of a team like us popping our head in should be at least be an option he would consider? Napoli with all respect aren't top tier like us and Bayern but should we throw our hat in his agent wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't consider what we had to offer.

Jono

09 Jul 2011 14:47:40
Nasri is named in Arsenals 23 man preseason tour of Asia, with Wenger adament he will fight to keep hold of him. Fabregas is not travelling with the squad heading for the far East, due to injury.

I would say Fabregas has'nt travelled due to him telling his team mates he won't be playing for Arsenal again.... HERBIE

Fabregas Injury..... Yea Right And Pinochio hasn't got a long nose???

09 Jul 2011 13:45:50
Ed is there still any interest in martinuccio? and were the rumours of interest in ivan piris true? {Ed002's Note - Martinuccio seems to be Roma bound. I have heard nothing about Piris.}

09 Jul 2011 13:10:20
Ed002, am I right in saying that Chelsea have made strides towards Mata today? This is what I am being told, still unsure if this source is accurate.

Also that United and Malaga are battling it out for Sneijder? I am also hearing that City are willing to pay Eto'o 220k a week if he signs a three year deal with them.

Sydney! {Ed002's Note - I am not sure what Chelsea plan to do with interest in Mata. They have periodically enquired and have kept a watching brief. They may decide to bid but as far as I am aware have not done so yet. There si a little regrouping going on this weekend of the guys who have been in Argentina. They are now back in Colorado and I guess there will be some discussions with the management team about strategy coming up. This may include Mata, I don't know.}

Just thought I'd say what I heard. Off out now for a Jack Daniels and Coke or twenty. Saturday's are not the same without footy :(

Sydney!

I'd think they'd also maybe consider replacing essien as well. {Ed002's Note - I guess it may be discussed.}

Do you honestly think that sneijder would be even considering going to a club like Malaga its going to be united , city or chelsea, failing that he will stay at Inter.

09 Jul 2011 12:37:19
this is not a rumour its just a thought, i cant honestly see us paying 30m+ for sneijder and nasri could end up anywhere so it got me thinking. Would fergie consider giving wayne the att mid role and bring in benzema(who we know he likes) to sit up top with hernandez. Real have spent upwards of 30m so will need to recoup some of that. Personally id be more than happy to see wayne sit alongside any of carrick/fletcher/ando if we got somebody of benzemas quality to supply goals. Any thoughts?

I wouldnt mind it but everyone has toyed with the idea of wayne being moved into midfield but the point we all seem to reach is, why move our best striker away from goal?

I would do it, just for the fact we would have even more versitility.

1redarmy

Rooney world class player who showed us his capabilities 2nd halve of season. You dont move your best striker / player to accomodate them. Agree get a stiker but we also need a midfielder. Rooney must stay up top. He ll give us more and would rather see him in attacking halve of the pitch instead of wasting his abilities and making him tackle track back. Its bit like saying barca going to buy benzema give him messi s position and relocate a postion for messi. You just dont do it. Casseddy

That could happen, but I can't see it working. benzema and chicharito are both scoring strikers, and if rooney is going to midfield we need another setting up striker.

I suggested similar i suggested that rooney drops into the midfield i agree with you
THE HWMMINATOR

I don't mind the idea in principle, I just don't particularly like the idea of Benzema... I know Fergie likes him or at least did in the past so I suppose I can't question him...
And while I think Rooney could be fantastic in the middle, I don't like the idea of splitting up his partnership with Hernandez when it was working so well.

APC

09 Jul 2011 12:18:16
Sneijder and Sanchez are coming to Utd know this to be true my source does not get many things wrong he told me Barcelona are going to have to sell Villa to buy Sanchez so once Udinese are finished talking to Barcelona they will begin talks with Utd with them paying £37m which is £28m upfront the rest in future success at utd which by the way is the best offer on table Barcelona can't match it there best offer is £24m upfront with £12m more on Sanchez playing 50% games watch this space it is happening after Copa America.

Wish this was true but, unfortunately, it's clearly not.

Rubbish rubbish rubbish and more rubbish. Funny how you didnt post your name. Snjeider and sanchez cost near 75mil. Weve already spent 50mil +. £125mil on transfers. . .Rubbish. Then where the hell you going to play carrick, giggs, park, fletcher, nani, valencia, snjeider, sanchez, young, jones, cleverly. Rubbish. Sanchez v.unlikely comin Snjeider good chance. Both = No Chance. Rubbish Rubbish Rubbish. Casseddy

All will show you how they will players will work
De Gea
Fabio Ferninand Vidic Evra
Valencia Sneijder Carrick Young
Sanchez Rooney (Or Little Pea)
Nani has been offered to Inter for Sneijder
Allowing utd to use all remaining money plus sale Berbatov to Juventus for Sanchez deal wait and see over coming weeks after Copa America if Sneijder does not happen Utd will push for Nasri but that is what Fergie's big plan to stop Barcelona is.

Sanchez isn't coming and that's 100% fact. I would've loved to see him at United but we don't need him. It was either him or Young and Young was the choice SAF made.

Sneijder I can see joining us in a deal that will see Nani go the other way.

De Gea
Rafael Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Valencia Sneijder Fletcher Young
Rooney Hernandez

Lindegaard Fabio Jones Carrick Park Owen Berbatov (subs).

Guys he is pretty much right, i have heard this also, sneijder is happening 100% and we are still trying for sanchez as barca's bis IS faultering. there is enough room in utd's team for players of this quality, what about carrick giggs etc ??? if they cant force their way in then tough

09 Jul 2011 11:51:18
IMO MANU need 3 player
1. A creative midfielder
2. A defencive midfielder.
3. A right back.
Right back because rafael taking injury & yellow card often. We need a player to cover him. Fabio can play there also but we need a back up option as fabio is originally LB. O Shea could cover the full back position but now as he was gone we need a full back. What's ur opinion ED, SYD?

Dear sir
ngiak would like you to consider the following
1. creative mid - carrick, anderson, cleverley and sometimes rooney and nani. we also have morrison and even valencia who plays that role for his country, not to mention park who solely plays that role for korea
2. defensive mid - fletcher and carrick (cover the whole of last season), pogba, tunnicliffe, not to mention jones and smalling if need be
in these positions we also have young, giggs and two very good youngsters petrucci and norwood. they DESERVE a chance
3. right back - are we forgetting this unknown player by the name of evra? evra and the da silva twins. about two world class players in that position. and sydney will also rave about a few of the youngsters and loanees?
how many more of these players would you like to have?
in ngiak's calculations, we almost have 2 international class players in each of the positions you have mentioned..
gan

There's no need for another right back. Rafael, Fabio, Smalling, Jones, Fletcher, Valencia and Cleverly can all play there.

Matthew...

Evra is a left back, apologies
ngiak actually saw evans play a decent left back recently. but unless mr sydney has a youngster who is a left back, we may, and its a small may be short at that position..
gan

Now
gan..every time i read your posts my respect for you keeeps on increasing....the most sensible posts this website has to offer
DJ

How many bloody players do you want if Fergie

I suppose when your wish is granted and SAF brings in your three players you will probably complain we need two more strikers and another goalkeeper stop being greedy
ARB

We dont need a defensive Mid either Fletcher Carrick Jones Can all play there we only need a creative mid - Sneijder/Nasri

IMO, any real United fan wouldn't use the term ****

**** is a term that was created by the newspapers decades ago. Many famous United players of the past refer to the team as Man U or Man utd. All this bollocks about true fans not using it was invented on the internet by idiots {Ed002's Note - Regardless of that, folks have complained and we try and avoid it.}

We don't need another Right Back.

My ideal player for the defensive midfielding position would be Daniele De Rossi. Great ball winner and a strong lad... hard to knock off the ball. He's 27 though so maybe he is already at his peak.

As for the attacking midfielder, I'd go with Nasri or Sneijder. Sneijder (in my opinion) is the better player but he is also 27 and would cost more than Nasri. Nasri's 24 and has yet to reach his peak. I'd be happy if any of them joined us.

Lol fabio is origianlly rb but forced to go lb cus of brother kickin ass, but has recently played in the rb position

09 Jul 2011 11:39:26
United fly to Boston this Monday (11th July) for their summer tour around the USA.

It looks certain that there won't be any further additions (in the form of Nasri or whoever) by the time United touch down on American soil.

So who's going on tour? There should be 22 players, with 2 others joining later due to Copa America involvement.

ben amos
anderson
dimitar berbatov
michael carrick
tom cleverley
fabio da silva
rafael da silva
david de gea
jonny evans
patrice evra
rio ferdinand
darren fletcher
phil jones
anders lindegaard
luis nani
michael owen
ji-sung park
wayne rooney
chris smalling
nemanja vidic
danny welbeck
ashley young

To join tour after additional rest:

javier hernandez
antonio valencia (he was injured though)

No place for:

ryan giggs
gabriel obertan
federico macheda
darron gibson
tomasz kuszczak
mame biram diouf

A. giggs has retired
B. he won't take berbatov as he is leaving in the next week or so.

Giggs has retired? Don't believe any official announcement has been made. And you really think Berbatov is leaving?

Giggs has not retired. Berbatov may well have to go if they want to sell him, they will want other clubs to watch him impress. I imagine Diouf & Morrison will be in there somewhere.

There's no need to take Giggs & Ferdinand as they could do with the extra rest and do not really need a preseason to get their season's going. It would make more sense to take Diouf, Pogba & Morrison instead of Rio, Giggs and perhaps Owen.

I guess we will see.

Sydney!

No tunnicliffe, Keane or Morrison? i think your list is terrible guess work tbh, just a quick question Eds or who ever may be able to answer. Is there a limit to the amount of players that can be taken and play on the tour. Surely not since united organised and financed it?

JWalk {Ed001's Note - the only limits tend to be an agreement on a minimum number of first team players that have to appear in each match.}

Ferguson will take an initial squad of 21 with him on Monday.

Of his new signings, only England international Ashley Young will be on board, having taken the number 18 shirt vacated by newly-retired Paul Scholes.

David de Gea and Phil Jones, who will wear one and four respectively, have both been given an extended break and will join later in the tour along with Tom Cleverley, Danny Welbeck, Javier Hernandez and Chris Smalling, who signed a new five-year contract yesterday.

Of his experienced players, Darron Gibson and Tomasz Kuszczak miss out, the clearest hint yet that neither has a United future.

None of the Red Devils' Youth Cup-winning squad make the journey but Federico Macheda and Mame Biram Diouf will be there after spending last season on loan, whilst Nani and Dimitar Berbatov will also be involved despite speculation linking them to summer moves away from Old Trafford.

09 Jul 2011 11:27:07
Anyone else hear the no value in Market excuse being warmed up?
Dont sound like we r willing to pay what it takes
We need em in for pre season and tour surely thats worth paying bit extra
Got same feeling as pre summers that no value will come out"""
dear unnamed sir
this is exactly what ngiak feared
the rainfishtrombone circus is at it again
after working so hard these few weeks after the window opened
and spending 50 million, there are still criticisms
will sneijder or sanchez work well in the EPL?
they come from a league that james' bond's charlie adam will be the best player in the league by a mile.
what guarantees do you have sir that paying 40 plus million on the like or even pastore (guess which league HE plays in?) will do us a job?
to be honest, as ngiak has mentioned many a time here
he rather have PARKER to do that job
proven, good, experienced, and very very cheap (1/4 of the price)
no value?
de gea is one of the best in the world, 20 years old and replaces the ONLY regularly playing player to leave the club.
the rest are NOT regulars last season when we won the EPL and runners up in the CL.
gan

Why on earth would the no value excuse be used? We have already spent big, building on the title winning team of last season.

Ngiak thanks you for the perfect summary of his post :)

Why cos we haven't bought the important ones yet And we ain't got them in before pre season

Penguin gan you r nuts if u think Parker is worthy of the shirt

09 Jul 2011 10:50:26
I'm pretty confused. It's certain that we're interested in nasri and have enquired at the very least. But now it seems we've done the same for sneijder. Could we be getting both (as nani seems to be part of the sneijder deal) or are we just weighing up our options? Anyone have thoughts? {Ed014's Note - I think both is unlikely, looking at who is already in the squad and considering they both play similar roles, so i'd've said weighing up options}

09 Jul 2011 09:55:24
Wenger has already set the precedent of selling one of his players to a rival in letting Cliche join City. ( By the way, Etihad, the new title of the stadium at city, translates in Arabic as United) . Wenger will accept the highest bid for Nasri and look to reinvest and replace.

If the highest bidder is City, and if Nasri does nt want a move to city, Arsenal cannot force him to sign for city, ..Same what happened with Sanchez, Man City made a bid which was higher then Barca but the player (Sanchez) was unwilling to sign for them, and Udinese did nt force him though it was way above what they demamded (the bid), , ....So if Nasri wants to come and play for United, , No one can stop him..Not even Wenger.. {Ed002's Note - Arsenal could of course refuse to sell the player as he is contracted to them.}

Etihad, actually translates in Arabic as union or unity, but still, a bit of a boo boo.

I cant see the arsenal board refusing to sell a want away player that will bag the 20 mill plus.
They have already stated that they will not let the same thing happen as what happened with Flamini and let Nsri leave for nothing.

Red Knight.

The worst thing Arsenal could do is force him to stay on for his final year, it would be bad for team morale and there is no guarantee that Nasri will play to the best of his ability or he could be very selfish with the football. Arsenal despite them bragging about finances are not as flush with funds as they make out. They have greedy investors who gobble up all of their dividends.

Ed002 is right, Wenger could refuse to sell him, but it's highly unlikely. 'IF' he is only interested in joining United, then Wenger will end up settling on a price with United, 'BUT' there is no hard evidence that he wants to join Us and only us. That is the most important point here.

Ed002, if Nasri tells Wenger that he only wants to join United and no one else and he also says he is willing to play his final year at Arsenal then join United on a free in a years time, do you agree that he is United bound?

Sydney!

09 Jul 2011 08:47:47
The Times, Telegraph, Independent & Guardian believe Nasri is United bound. Sky Italia & The Mail believe he is City bound. The Sun & Mirror have stopped writing about where Nasri will end up. Perhaps they feel the direction has changed and don't want to contradict themselves?

We don't know who he will join, but we do know that he will not be staying with Arsenal.

Sydney!

Sydney it is good for United that the papers linking us to Nasri are more reliable than the ones saying City or nothing if we get him I don't care who City get we will have the best team we have had in years
ARB

The Sky Italia story is a rehash of the Sky story from earlier in the week and isn't new rumour news as such.

DarkLard08

Suprised madrid arent looking at him. seems their after everyone this summer

08 Jul 2011 23:48:49
Now I am a United fan and me and my mate (also a united fan) both agree and want Nasri to sign for Utd. He is a great player who I think would be even better surrounded by the players of United........BUT Mr Wenger is not an person and will do everything in his power to avoid Nasri signing for us. If we bid 20 mill and some other team outside the prem bids 15 mill, I know who he is going to accept Imagine if Arsenal were trying to by Hernandez and Hernandez came out and said he wanted to leave UNLESS he said I will only more to Arsenal, I can tell you he would never being aloud to sign for Arsenal
I'm not saying we wont sign him as there is speculation that Nasri has said he wants to join United which is great, and may be the factor that forces it through.
If we miss out then so be it. There are plenty of great mid fielders out there and SAF knows what he is doing.

Loving the ever changing transfer market.

Yes but if nasri only wants united and won't get anywhere else hypotically of course he could sign for united this year and arsenal receive payment or they could keephim and get nothing for him next year

Exactly I have read alot of posts on here saying that Nasri has said he wants to join Utd (which might be true or not) but that is a big difference to saying I ONLY want to join Utd. I think it's a long long way from being resolved. He will end up having to leave because its reported he has stated he wants to leave the club.........if he took a huge pay rise and stayed the fans would lay into him every game. So if Arsenal refuse to sell him to us, he could just go to Inter or Juve or anywhere.
I really don't see him playing hard ball with Arsenal. He wont sit on the bench all season just to move to us.