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01 May 2013 18:13:13
Now this is Intresting one. for u Lads!

Colombian legend Faustino Asprilla has revealed that he has told compatriot Radamel Falcao to sign for Manchester United.

1.) 01 May 2013 19:46:10
He will be in a chelsea next season

2.) Can anybody tell me what the attraction is with gaitan whenever I've watched benfica he's been abismal I would rather keep young than him and young has been to put it kindly poor a red united fan

3.) Agree with the first post, he said he would only move for big money, that has city or chelsea written all over it.

4.) Would u listen to asprillia!REDWILL

01 May 2013 17:47:45
Valencia to Portuguese league
Anderson to Portuguese league
Nani to France league

Its final. Till summer transfer

1.) We need to keep Valencia for at least one more season IMO, if another should go it should be young

19JackC94

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06 May 2013 05:23:05
Jst got news from my close friend that.
United are not in Race to Sign Lewandowski.
Rooney will be given 1 more chance in Next Season

1.) I never thought he was coming anyway. It is other posters here who post a lot of bs and everyone gets all excited about the whole thing.

I still believe our biggest spend will be for an attacking midfielder and that will not be much either.

So No Falcao, Lew, Bale. They will give Rooney a go at midfield and a very quite summer as far as transfers are concerned.

I think the manager is overestimating the quality of this team and depending on what Chelsea and City do, we might be in for a long season next year. Mourinho if he ends up at Chelsea will get that team sorted.

Our first 11 is not good enough against Chelsea and City and whoever thinks they are is too biased.

Arsenal and Spurs are not too far behind either and will be better next year.

Finally, can't ever remember the last time we were so average at home against so many teams.

I sometimes wonder who is the home team and who is the away team. Old Trafford is definitely not a fortress and as intimidating as it used to be and everyone blames the the supporters, however it is difficult to get excited when you are watching the sh. t we play.

I am sure people will now respond and defend the team but just calling what I am seeing on the pitch.

Shahram

2.) Not sure of your source but I think both rumours seem believable enough.

GRD

3.) Agree with shahram. But I thought tottenam midfield are better than us if they get a quality striker they can win epl.

4.) Tottenham don't have the strength in depth required to win the PL yet. Maybe within the next 2-3 years they will be serious challengers, but that depends on whether they can hold on to their best players (Lloris, Bale, Dembele etc. ) as well as adding a couple of quality players in the next few transfer windows.

GRD

5.) No GRD

look at the players ours is Nani cleverly carrick young. And they have lennon sigursson (spell) and bale. I thought they r better than us now.

6.) 06 May 2013 12:32:40
Spurs are better than us that's why their twenty points behind! Yes they need a striker. But as grd said they lack strength in depth. Take Bale out and they look ordinary.

7.) Spurs are a good team and great to watch.

I agree they are not deep as a squad but their first 11 when healthy is a handful for any team and a draw is a good result.

I will take Dembele over all our midfielders except carrick. I would also take Lennon over Valencia and Nani any.

They bossed the midfield in both games against us. They need strikers and another CB and have a good young base to build on if they can keep them together.

They have Bale who on current form will be in the running for the Balon D'or.

Shahram

8.) Shahram is right. As I've said all along, fergie has done miracles with this team this year. It will be very disappointing if he is not backed by the owners properly in the summer.
No more half decent players who might turn out to be good, we need top players who can improve the first team. We have a lot of average squad players, we don't need any more of them.
Nomidfield

9.) No Midfield

I truly get where you are coming from. I think top players make everyone around them better and open up the pitch and allow us to play better quality football.

At the moment most teams don't worry about us on the left side and everything is down the right flank. In so many games teams load the right side against us and hence Valencia looks even worse.

If we get a genuine top notch left winger and attacking CM it is hard to defend against a team that can hurt you in many ways. Our current set up gets no production from the flanks or CM in terms of goals. A top class attacking midfielder and winger will give us 20 goals and 20 assists a year.

In the old days Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez used to be able make up for our short comings and lack of production from other areas of the pitch but Ronaldo and Tevez are gone, Rooney is not what he used to be. The current set up is a mixture of a few very good players and a lot of average squad players. Whilst the manager has depth in ranks and can rotate a lot of players, he does not have a killer 1st 11 for the big games.

2 top signings CM, LW will do wonders and if you wanted to be greedy another top cm would be the icing on the cake.

Shahram

10.) 06 May 2013 18:20:11
We don't need an attacking midfielder we need to use kagawa properly. We need a box to box who can drive forward. And a left sided attacking player.

11.) The manager seems to think so as we were ready to pay over 35 million on hazard and moura and got priced out of the deals and Kagawa was not a replacement as we had already bought Kagawa when we tried to get moura.

Shahram

05 May 2013 20:01:29
Valencia to la liga league
Anderson to Portuguese league
Lindegaard to Fulham

Final news
Good night

David

1.) So you'd know the league where there going but not the club, absolute rubbish

scout.

29 Apr 2013 16:29:39
Lewandowski wants premiere league move that's what I have to Say now : ' Lewandowski Agent'

Ed002/syd? Now chances are more? I thnk.?Wbu?

29 Apr 2013 16:29:39
Lewandowski wants premiere league move that's what I have to Say now : ' Lewandowski Agent'

Ed002/syd? Now chances are more? I thnk.?Wbu?

29 Apr 2013 13:04:59
Hey Ed/syd?
Can u Explain me FFP rules that any Football club has to follow, to limit thier transfer in Next season?
Whats it about?
Reply Broda {Ed002's Note - The Demystification of the Financial Fair Play Rules (FFPR)
Introduction
I will try and simplify and summarise the FFPR and give examples where I can.
Putting aside all of the “mother country” fluff, the fundamental purpose of the FFPR is to:
(1) Ensure that clubs are operating within their means with transparent financial reporting. Example: Arsenal has debt which they can manage from the money they make as a club (good). Anzhi has a very low turnover given the amount of money they spend on players through donations from wealthy owners (bad).
(2) Protect creditors. Example: When Portsmouth went bust they owed money for players (the extreme case being Glen Johnson who had moved to Liverpool but Portsmouth still owed Chelsea for), money to local businesses (tradesmen who had worked at the ground, newsagents etc.), utility companies, the police et al (bad).
(3) Encourage responsible spending. Example: Liverpool under Hicks and Gillett borrowed money against the value of the club in order to buy players (bad).
(4) Protect the long-term viability of European club football. Example: They want to avoid the scenario of clubs entering administration or going out of business.
The FFPR apply to all UEFA club competitions and will actively come in to force from the end of June 2014 taking account of the financial monitoring period (the season just finished) and the two prior reporting periods (the two seasons before that). So when they first start, the FFPR will look at the 2013/2014 returns, and they will give consideration to the 2011/12 and 2012/13 figures.
I should make clear that it is not the full accounts of a club that are being considered, but just the “relevant” income and the “relevant” expenses. “Excluded” expenses are critical to the FFPR calculations. To this end, all clubs will need to effectively produce two sets of accounts. An audited set which are provided to Companies House and the relevant revenue organisations, and a second audited return laying out the “relevant” income and the “relevant” expenses for the purpose of the FFPR.
Relevant Income
(1) Match day gate receipts. Example: The money made by the club from paying fans attending games. This includes income from cup games when played away from home where a proportion of the gate money goes to the away side.
(2) Broadcasting rights. Example: Television income for games, money provided for radio broadcasting.
(3) Income from commercial activities. Example: Sales of bobble hats and rattles, club shop income, licensed income (e.g. DVD sales). In the future you can expect to see income from other media (e.g. streaming of games on a pay-per-view basis to the web and phones) increase.

(4) Prize money. Example: income from the Premier League, Champions League etc..
(5) Sponsorship. Example: Shirt sponsors (Standard Chartered, Samsung etc.), shirt manufactures (Adidas, Warrior etc.).
(6) Advertising. Example: Companies who buy time on video screens during games or hoardings at the stadium.
(7) Other operating income. Example: Payments made to a club for playing friendly matches in the Far East.
(8) Income from transfers: Example: All income from the sale of a player regardless of payment being due to previous clubs, the player himself etc. as they are allowable expenses which will later be deducted.
(9) Excess proceeds on the sale of tangible fixed assets. Example: The money Arsenal from converting part of Highbury in to apartments and selling them.
(10) Other income: Example: Interest on investments.
Relevant Expenses
(1) The costs of running the business (confusingly referred to as “the cost of sales” by accountants etc.). Example: Wages, ground maintenance, lighting, telephones, IT equipment, travel costs, policing costs etc..
(2) Employee related benefits and associated costs. Example: Costs of providing insurance, dental care, medical, employer NI contribution, housing, loyalty bonuses etc..
(3) Other operating expenses. Example: Payments for advertising, legal fees, agent fees, accounting fees, payments to players in relation to transfers, payments to player’s previous clubs, etc..
(4) Amortisation or transfer costs. Example: The total amount of money paid to another club to transfer a player or, if a club decides to do so, the amortised cost for that year (where a club is spreading the cost of the transfer out over the length of his contract for accounting purposes).
(5) Finance costs. Example: Bank charges, interest on loans etc..
(6) Dividends. Example: The owners may take a dividend from the profits a club makes as income.
Excluded Expenses
(1) Depreciation of tangible fixed assets. Example: The loss, if any, in value of the stadium, cars, IT equipment etc..
(2) Costs associated with the intangible fixed assets (other than player registrations). Example: goodwill, franchises, trademarks, copyrights etc..
(3) Expenditure on youth development activities. Example: All youth development expenses (housing, schooling, travel, medical etc.) are excluded from the calculations.
(4) Community development activities. Example: Outreach programmes, donations to the local community and charities, provision of equipment etc..
(5) Tax expenses. Example: Monies paid to the Inland Revenue, VAT etc..
(6) Finance costs related to construction of tangible fixed assets. Example: The interest on the £300M loan to build a new stadium.
(7) Interest payments on old loans (pre June 1, 2011). Example: Any interest due on a loan taken out for whatever purpose before June 1, 2011 is excluded from the calculations.
(8) Certain expenses from non-football operations. Example: This does not really apply to British clubs, but in other European countries clubs are often “sporting clubs” and have basketball, football, hockey team etc. all under one business.
The Calculation
FFPR calculates from a club’s “relevant” income and the “relevant” expenses whether the club is running at a surplus (profit) or deficit (loss) within a Monitoring Period (e.g. 2013/14). From this the FFPR decides if a club has met the “break even” requirement or not. This is not met if the “relevant” expenses exceed the “relevant” income by more than 5M euros (an acceptable deviation).
If the club exceeds this acceptable deviation, the owners of a club may contribute toward correcting it to a maximum of 45M euro over a rolling three year period (30M euro from 2015/16 on). Example: If Club X made a loss of 50M euro in 2013/14 due to the purchase of players, the calculation will ignore the first 5M euro and assume an owner contribution of 45M euro and there would not be an issue. However, for the two years following, there would be no allowable owner contribution as the full allocation had been used. If Club Y made a loss of 30M euro in 2013/14 due to the purchase of players, the calculation will ignore the first 5M euro and assume an owner contribution of 25M euro and there would not be an issue. But in this case, for the two years following, there would still be 20M euro allowable as owner contribution to cover further losses.
The Punishment
The Threat: If a club has been determined to have violated the “break even” requirement for a season it may be excluded from the next season’s UEFA competitions.
Likely Situation: If a club can show it has been moving in the right direction and doing what it can to overcome financial issues, perhaps brought on by a recession (e.g. in Spain) then I would expect a strongly worded letter as a warning. Perhaps by then end of the 2016/2017 season, If a club has been determined to have violated the “break even” requirement for several seasons then it may be excluded from the next season’s UEFA competitions.
UEFA are willing to make some exceptions to the rule and have already said they will consider:
(1) The quantum and trend of the break even result. Example: Chelsea has spent a lot this summer rebuilding an aging squad, so even with considerable additional income from winning the Champions League it could violate the “break even” requirement. However, spending less next season will show the club moving in the right direction. Expect a strongly worded letter in a couple of years time.
(2) Debt situation. Example: A possible “get out” for Barcelona, Real Madrid and Manchester United should they have a bad season and need to violate the “break even” requirement. Consideration will be given to the existing debt and the ability of the clubs to service that debt. The trend of the debt reducing and an excuse of “one bad season” and “need to rebuild the team” would likely result in a slapped wrist.
(3) Fluctuating exchange rates. Example: All non eurozone countries need to report the FFPR figures in euros which could fluctuate due to the exchange rate, whereas a number of the UEFA figures are fixed amounts (e.g. the 5M euro acceptable deviation).
(4) Projected figures. Example: UEFA will allow clubs to show that they are moving in the right direction if they provide projected figures showing that the “break even” requirement will be met in the following season.
(5) Force majeure. Example: Any extraordinary events or situation arising that is beyond the club’s control will be taken in to account.
(6) Until then end of 2014/15 only - Ongoing reductions in wage costs. UEFA will be flexible over the “break even” requirement if a club can show that their wage bill has been reducing and with the exclusion of wages of players signed before June 1, 2010 they would have met the “break even” requirement. Example: An escape route for the likes of Chelsea prior to prior season with Drogba, Anelka, Bosingwa, Kalou, Cech, Terry, Lampard etc. wages excluded from the calculations. A possible future escape route for the likes of Barcelona.
The Issues
There are a number of matters that UEFA still need to figure out and a number of concerns that certain clubs and certain national associations have. Off the top of my head:
(1) Loopholes: Whilst UEFA has done what it can to block any potential “loopholes” it is well aware that exclusion of wages for players signed before June 2010 is one it has introduced itself, and one that will be popular with the higher paying clubs as a short term escape route through to the summer of 2015. The matters of excessive sponsorship will be addressed via a cap to thwart the concerns over the likes of Manchester City abusing the rules. The cap has yet to be finalised but will require ratification.
(2) Soft Sponsorship: UEFA are concerned at the aggressive approach to obtaining sponsorship some clubs are taking. Questions are being asked about the ethics in clubs having airline travel partners, photocopier partners etc.. The Spanish clubs have raised this as a concern.
(3) National Sponsorship Variations: As we have seen tobacco sponsorship leave Formula 1 UEFA would like to see alcohol sponsorship out of football. We already have a situation where sponsorship by alcohol related businesses are forbidden in certain countries. Wealthy breweries are now focussing their sponsorship in other countries thereby creating a perceived imbalance in what income clubs are able to obtain in sponsorship. The French and Russian clubs have raised this as a concern.
(4) National Financial Distribution Variations: Concerns exist in countries where different models are used for distributing prize money, contributing to the grassroots game and distributing income from television and other media broadcasting. This led to an original request (rejected) from a number of clubs to restrict the FFPR to only the wealthiest of clubs, those with a turnover in excess of xM euros.
(5) National Taxation Variations: There is a considerable difference across UEFA nations in taxation, and this is seen to be reflected in the wages paid to players. The Spanish clubs have raised this as a concern.
(6) Third Party Ownership: Countries that allow third party ownership of players are seen to have a distinct advantage in being able to keep the costs of transfer fees low as they are only paying for a proportion of a player. The English clubs have raised this as a concern.
The Great Fear
Without going in to too much detail: (a) A number of clubs take the opportunity a once or twice a year to discuss various issues including changes in rules, television rights, the power of UEFA, exploitation issues for new technology streams, etc.. These discussions, the last of which were in late August, also always turn to the possibility and structure of a breakaway pan European league. Several are ex-G14 clubs, several are not, and some clubs decline involvement in such discussions. (b) The plan is that at some point a number of clubs would break away from their national leagues and UEFA. They accept that they would be banned from all existing club competition and the players would initially be banned from all FIFA competitions as well, but know that FIFA would be looking to negotiate in any case. It would be the end of UEFA in all probability and UEFA are very aware of this. It would also result in a restructuring of many of the national leagues. (c) The clubs would renegotiate their television rights, rights of distribution via other streams etc.. (d) It remains the greatest fear of UEFA and all major national authorities that one day this will happen.
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1.) Thanks for That Ed

2.) It's more like G18 now I guess. Can you imagine if the top clubs in England joined a breakaway league. Liverpool may have a slight chance of winning the EPL then.

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