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20 Jun 2022 16:04:46
Timber and Pau Torres appear to be our 2 main centre back targets but I really think we'll regret not going in for Nathan Collins. He is going to be a star centre half. He's good in the air and reads the game well. And he's very good on the ball. I know we were linked with him when he was at Stoke. I think he has massive potential. Probably much cheaper than our other targets too.

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1.) 20 Jun 2022 17:50:01
I know we’ve been linked to him previously but is there a reason why the top clubs are not vying to sign him?
I’ve not seen anything of him but if he’s so good already with huge potential to develop further it does make me wonder there may be background issues.


2.) 20 Jun 2022 19:09:52
I doubt there are any background issues with him, he seems like a good lad and I think he’ll go places and would be better than Lindelof or Maguire, but possibly he’d be better off playing regular prem football with a Leicester or Wolves for a couple of seasons.


3.) 20 Jun 2022 21:16:51
I’m not saying he has background issues I’m just wondering why none of the top sides are in for him.

Also I’d like United to take the punt if he’s so good rather than a Leicester or a wolves before he gets too costly like we used too ala vidic, evra, solskjaer.


4.) 20 Jun 2022 21:58:03
I suppose the answer to that is how do we know that a big club isn't in for him?

Could be parties for whatever reason want to keep it quiet.

All we know is that so far none of the top 6 are linked to him (Newcastle for one have been) in the media yet but as a lot of it is tripe anyway I don't hold too much sway on what's published.


 

 

 

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05 Aug 2020 17:10:00
Gomes has signed for Lille and is immediately going on loan to Boavista. It all seems a little underwhelming to me. Would he not have been better off signing a new deal with United and going on loan for a year to gain some playing time and experience. Seems a strange move to me. I understand he might've been annoyed at not getting much playing time when Mata, Lingard and Pereira got minutes ahead of him but any time he was given a chance he failed to impress. I wish him well but I'd be questioning my advisors if I was him.
PS Need to change my username 😬.

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1.) 05 Aug 2020 17:50:20
I think the issue with United is that he didn't have a proper development plan, and I don't think anyone at the club has the ability to devise one for him.

While it seems painfully obvious now to see the pathway he has at Lille, start off in Portugal (he is of Portuguese decent), have a year in a tougher league than he is used to while he adapt to senior football. Then come back to Lille with Ligue 1 being a step up from Liga Nos, but not too big a step. Have a year or two in France then he might be ready to step up again to a big club, with three years of senior football under his belt.

At United we could have loaned him out, but he would have needed two loans in my opinion, one to Portugal or the Netherlands when he will play a more physical and technical style of football and could physically develop, then a loan to the Championship to adjust to senior football in a much more physical league before coming back to United to compete in our squad.

Good luck to him, I wouldn't be surprised to see his name linked with a few big sides in 2-3 years time.

{Ed002's Note - Exactly.}


2.) 05 Aug 2020 18:55:14
Shappy - I find it hard to believe there is no pathway into the first team. Over 4000 consecutive games says otherwise.

Gomes has chosen another path and I wish him luck but to suggest there is something fundamentally wrong with the academy is not as far as I can see based on a shred of any evidence.

From the busby babes to the Class of 92 and now the emergence of Rashford, Greenwood and the hundreds of other academy graduates that have played for the first team since 1938 suggests a different story.

In my opinion the facts speak for themselves and the departure of one promising young player doesn't change that.


3.) 05 Aug 2020 18:59:58
Got post shappy. I think the lads made a great decision. Not only will he be a more rounded and developed player but the experiences ahead of him will make him a more rounded person too.
I think we are seeing the beginning of a trend over the past couple of years.
Young talented lads gong away to develop themselves and their game.
Exposed to better coaching and gaining new experiences at standards miles ahead of the u23 league.
With effective planning clubs don't have to lose these players they just need to be open to new ideas and look at what's best for these young players.
Im delighted for him it seems a very sensible and mature decision. there is many that would take the 30k a week and sit in the 23s for a few more years.


4.) 05 Aug 2020 19:13:24
Chong looks to be off to werder bremen, garner looks to have a few options .

Greenwood, mctom, rash and williams all looking good in the first team .
I think another couple could be there abouts . Seems a path way to the first team.


5.) 05 Aug 2020 19:36:39
Exactly Jred do Utd not send players out on loan? I hardly think Lille sending Gomes out on loan to Portugal is the road to enlightenment!

How about this for a road map. We're going to sell our most proven and prolific premier league goal scorer to Inter Milan and send out our highest paid player on loan and rely on two young academy graduates to score goals in the first team?

I suppose it's all about perception and what you define as a road map or development plan. Surely there is no greater path into the first team than opportunity.

I'm no expert so I'll shut up on the subject but do I think Utd have come in for some unfair criticism on this particular point especially considering their long standing record breaking run of giving youngsters a chance in the first team!


6.) 05 Aug 2020 20:04:16
the thing with these young players is because the likes of rashford, sancho, halland greenwood foden etc have got into first teams they are demanding the same yet are no where near the same level.


7.) 05 Aug 2020 20:36:36
Agree bolger that's why i think gomes has made a good call for himself.


8.) 05 Aug 2020 20:46:51
There is a world of difference between being given a chance in the first team and having a planned out map of development.

If you wanted to get into management you could start off at a company and try and work your way up. Some make it some don't. Or you could go to University, follow a planned curriculum and qualify in a management degree.

Who has the better chance of a career in management?

That is the difference.

Rashford got his chance by luck, injuries to other players. Not planning.

Same for McTominay and Williams.

Greenwood is the only one where anything like a plan was put in place.

Gomes saw United signing James, signing Bruno, chasing Sancho.

Young players who would be ahead of him for 5-8 years.

No plan to send him out on loan, no development structure.

That is what we are missing.


9.) 05 Aug 2020 21:12:28
DLIB its one think to throw youngsters in when you need to (because of injuries) or because you clearly see that they are already good enough and other to have a clear plan for them. I guess that even if he plays in the first team we hadnt a clear plan for 21 years old Mactominnay.


10.) 05 Aug 2020 22:01:42
4000 games and 81 years of good luck then Shappy! We'll have to agree to disagree on this one pal.

I have no idea how everybody knows our academy players have no development plan when they keep ending up in the first team. Like I said unwarranted criticism based on little or no evidence unless you choose to believe it's all down to good luck of course.


11.) 05 Aug 2020 22:52:43
Dlib
Exactly, I woukd love to know where shappy gets it from.


12.) 05 Aug 2020 23:00:57
18 different Academy players have featured in the Manchester United first team this season.


13.) 06 Aug 2020 09:22:24
I thought that was exactly why they moved Nicky Butt to first team development in order to provide a pathway to the first team for the academy and under 23's. Seems like there is a pathway after all but it needs time to develop more.


 

 

15 Jun 2020 15:36:43
Marcus Rashford has shown himself to be a wonderful role model, ambassador and inspirational leader in a time of crisis. The world needs people like him to step up. Kudos Marcus. It gives you hope at a time when you see idiots dominating the headlines, and I include Trump and Boris in that category.

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19 Jun 2019 19:05:59
I really don't think Mata's new deal makes any sense. 2 year deal with option for a further year? Good influence. Good pro. Sets an example. Nice guy.
BUT: too slow for right wing, not quite good enough for number 10 and not strong/ quick enough for centre mid. And he doesn't have the speedy slick passing of Silva (s) . Nor the killer through balls of De Bruyne. Compare him to Bernardo Silva who is Mr Perpetual Motion and he is static in comparison. I just don't see the logic in paying someone to stick around and write a nice blog whenever we lose. It's another decision based on sentiment. I don't see where he fits into the team or the style of play we're told ole wants to introduce. Maybe he'll play europa league and cameo appearances from bench in EPL but I don't get it.
I hope he scores 20 goals next season and shuts me up but I doubt it.

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1.) 19 Jun 2019 19:41:07
He doesn’t have speedy slick passing or perpetual motion of Silva because our team doesn’t play that way.

The City system is quick one two passing and movement. Do we even have a system other than not trying very hard? What’s Mata supposed to do? Run around like a headless chicken as our team plod up the pitch? We already have Lingard for that job.

Mata was Chelsea player of the season as part of a midfield three that focused on moving the ball quickly. Jose came back, and Mata didn’t fit. There’s a reason Barcelona were looking at him, and it’s precisely for his experience and passing ability. In the right system, he can play an important role in the squad.


2.) 19 Jun 2019 19:42:49
Its pretty simple to be honest, we have just lost valencia, herrera and fellaini who are all experienced pros. You can dispute their quality absolutely but no one questioned their work ethic or attitude.

Add into the equation de gea, pogba, lukaku could be off. that's a huge amount of experience to lose in one season. Mata can be a useful squad player who isn't on massive wages by todays standards and won't cause an ounce of trouble for ole.

Completely reasonable move for the club to make, its just with the lack of progress with incoming transfers and the inability to keep key players at the club, every bit of news out of united at the moment is being treated with so much negativity.


3.) 19 Jun 2019 21:13:11
Agree with DSG.

Maya already knows he’s not first choice. He’s going to start 15-20 games a season, probably every cup game, Europa League, and fill in when players are injured or need a rest.

To find another player of his quality but younger we’d be paying £35m+.

He’s also a good egg, we need a good influence in the dressing room.


4.) 19 Jun 2019 21:15:42
We can’t sell everyone all in one go. Mata has experience and seems to have the right attitude so it makes sense to keep him on board. I may be wrong but he is intelligent and a good communicator so it wouldn’t surprise me if they have a coaching or ambassadorial role in mind for him long term.


5.) 20 Jun 2019 01:20:27
That would be a good move by the club I think Redman. Especially for young players coming into United from Europe and South America.


6.) 20 Jun 2019 06:58:07
Perthredmike

Exactly, Spanish speaking, very marketable and can help attract in the future. Experience on the pitch. If we had the defence and midfield we could push up the pitch 10 yards bringing the team, defence, midfield and attack closer, less gap between the lines meaning Mata’s intricate skills would be easier to harness.


7.) 20 Jun 2019 07:59:17
Every single player we have would play better in a team that was playing better . That is what we need to improve.
But mata seems a nice guy.


8.) 20 Jun 2019 14:07:58
Red Man, I'm going to mark this in the diary. We agree 😁.


 

 

14 Jun 2019 20:19:21
If, as per media reports, we lose De Gea, Pogba and Lukaku as well as Herrera and possibly others we face a huge overhaul of playing staff this summer. Whether you agree with his appointment or not we have to back Ole and hope he is given scope to make the changes he deems necessary. We see the players once or twice a week but he sees them on the training pitch every day and should be able to make judgment calls about their ability and attitude after his few months in the job. As fans we have to trust his judgment and back his calls.
The signing of D James and the links to AWB and Longstaff hint at signing young, hungry British players with potential. If he can blend these with a couple of academy graduates such as Mason G and add a couple of more experienced signings we have to hope that he can eventually build a side capable of challenging for honours. This rebuild will take time and requires patience from the fans. It may get worse before it gets better as the new players settle in but we have to hope and believe (despite all evidence to the contrary) that there is a plan and that it will eventually bear fruit.
If we lose the aforementioned 'big' names then a signing like Saul Niguez, Rabiot, or Bruno Fernandes will be needed to signal intent and placate restless fans but I think he has to sign the right player at centre back to make the rest of the team come together. That will be the toughest task. I don't think maguire is the man to take on this mantle but maybe he could do well. Who knows? Koulibaly would inspire more confidence. Dias looks promising too. It'll be an interesting and probably frustrating summer but let's try to keep the faith. for a few months at least.

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1.) 14 Jun 2019 21:29:01
Ole Gonner.


 

 

10 Mar 2019 14:57:45
I'm a little bit worried about today. Fatigue could be a factor for both teams but Arsenal will be really up for it after the Cup game. It's a massive 6 pointer given Spurs' result yesterday. I think we can terrorise their defence with our pace but it might be a backs to the wall job for long periods. Here's hoping the Ole effect and positive vibes in the camp carry us on to another huge 3 points. Arsenal have an easy enough run in after today so it's vital we go for the win. C'mon United!

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26 Jan 2019 13:53:55
A bit up and down.

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26 Jan 2019 09:15:01
One hit wonder.

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Brazilian Anderson to sign for Basque-only Athletic Bilbao? Would be a first. {Ed044's Note - It would not be a first mate but it is unusual.}

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02 Jul 2022 17:30:08
Osimhen? Scamacca? Calvert Lewin? Ekitike? The French lad from Leipzig? Plenty of forwards out there. Ronaldo will score goals but he is in decline and hasn’t the legs to press these days. It’s not the end of the world if he goes…. once he’s replaced properly. Maybe Kane could be tempted away from Spurs? But let’s not get too upset about a 38 year old possibly leaving the club.

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22 Apr 2022 12:04:56
Ten Hag needs the fans, former players and media to give him time and be realistic about what he can achieve in the short term. Unfortunately, that’s not going to happen is it? Make a bad start and idiots like those making hoax bomb threats to players will be all over social media saying he’s out of his depth and they’ll be followed by former players who wanted Poch and mainstream media who generate clicks and sell papers based on crises at our club. It’s up to the loyal (non-toxic) fan base to support ETH and allow him time to get things back on track. Best of luck to him as he has an enormous task on his hands to turn things around given the way the club is run. Let’s hope he is a thundering success and we get to see some good football with players giving their all on the pitch for the shirt. That’s all real fans want.

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06 Jun 2020 10:41:00
I was clearly talking about his win at all costs mentality and the fact that victory seemed to be more of a relief than something joyous. It was always about the next game. It wasn’t meant as a comparison about their respective abilities. Clearly, Jordan is a freak and in a different level to most mortals in that respect. But, watching Last Dance, I could see a lot of Keane in him. The charisma, the near bullying of teammates to go the extra mile and the sheer need to win. That was the point I tried to make. I’m not an idiot; I know Keane didn’t score match winners every game or do things nobody had ever seen before. But, he ensured his team won and he did the simple things better than anyone. I take your Pippen point if referring to his role as a player but he was more Jordan in his outlook and desire and influence.

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{Ed001's Note - Jordan had lots of friends amongst his teammates, Keane has not many (if any). I don't see any comparison. Keane and charisma have no relation. Great player that he was, he was not charismatic, he bullied people pure and simple. It worked because he had Fergie behind him and they worked it together. Keane reminds me more of Vinnie Jones, he played a role for his manager (and continues to do so in his life), rather than he was in actuality that person (and that especially extends to the infamous MUTV interview). Keane is a quiet, nice enough chap away from football, rather than the bully he portrays in his working life. Imo he hides behind the bully persona to cope with the attention in a similar way to others that hide behind drugs or alcohol. I don't think he would have been like it if Fergie had not needed a bully, which is why I compare him to Rodman most of all. He built an on-court persona for the team's benefit, buying into the bad-boy Pistons style of play more than any other as it was what his coach wanted. Fergie wanted a team to bully and cajole officials (initially he used to offset the advantage the old firm had in getting favourable decisions from officials), Keane bought into it and took it further. Tommy Smith was another example. He was hard because Shanks told him he wanted him to have an edge and that was his edge. Personally I admire that as much as Jordan, that willingness to sacrifice all to be what your coach asks of you, rather than because of your own personal desire to be that player.}


 

 

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06 Jun 2020 09:01:58
Roy Keane was a phenomenal player. He never gave the ball away. He always gave the right pass at the right time. He was capable of rampaging runs and scoring goals but he often sacrificed his offensive traits for the good of the team. It was always about winning with Roy. He’s the football equivalent of Michael Jordan in that respect. Carrick was a very good player but is light years behind Keane in terms of being the best player in the world in his position. Watch Ireland v Holland to witness a masterclass in midfield play.
Keane didn’t try to hit Hollywood passes because he had teammates who could do that better but he was the heartbeat of the team and without doubt the best player of his generation. He could tackle better than most but he read the game so well he usually just intercepted the play and came away with possession. His passing ability was underrated. He was good in the air for a guy who wasn’t tall. He was the complete footballer. A winner. A hero.

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{Ed001's Note - footballing equivalent of Jordan? Nonsense. That shows you have no idea what Jordan did. How many times did Keane win games on his own by out scoring the opposition singlehandedly and driving his team mates on? Maradona maybe could be considered an equivalent but Keane was far too limited a player (excellent though he was) to be compared to Jordan. Keane is more like Rodman in that Bulls team, sacrificing his personal glory for the team win. Extremely important too but nothing like Jordan.}


 

 

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28 Feb 2020 11:04:56
McTominay really needs to improve both his range and weight of passing as he is lacking in this area but you can’t but admire his desire and tenacity. You can tell what playing for the club means to him. I still think he’s got a bit to go until he’s the finished article and whether he will ever reach the required level is up for debate but it won’t be for any lack of effort on his part.

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