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29 Apr 2025 11:15:21
Read today that Dan Gore welcomes a move away from Old Trafford and United would let him go for £1 million. Anyone think we should be trying to keep him? Gore has seemingly said he wants a step up from the under 21's/.
1.) 29 Apr 2025 13:21:53
Keep him for what?
He is destined for a decent career in the lower leagues. If he is lucky.
2.) 29 Apr 2025 13:57:24
Well look what happened to our squad player McTominay. Just thought he had potential? A lot thought Gomes had no chance and he has been called up for England.
3.) 29 Apr 2025 14:48:41
Can’t keep everyone in the hope they might come good…
Let’s be fair ETH got rid of better than he bought, so McT is not nothing to go by, tbh I would rather Mc T or Fred than Ugarte and use the money to be added for a striker, Fred could not pass the ball 20 yards, Ugarte can’t pass 10 yards and very slow and not mobile…
But we can’t just keep storing players in hope they may come good, even first teamers let alone under 21s….
4.) 29 Apr 2025 15:46:35
Charlton palmer got England caps that's no sign he is any good.
I think gomes is available on a free i wonder who will snap him up he has done OK at lille.
Dan gore has not done well in his loan spells.
Ugatre is miles better than Fred imo, but limited in his passing range but his possession stats out performing Fred consistently. Which is a low bar.
I think we have as big an issue for our 2 midfielders as we do strikers.
Cas collyer and ugarte are really not great options for 2 starting spots. Bruno has had to drop back there this season. We need 2 midfielder as much as a striker or keeper. The lack of control and creativity in midfield is poor.
Can't all be done in 1 window so it's not easy to prioritise when there are so many holes to fill.
5.) 29 Apr 2025 15:50:27
Can't help but feel that Gore has been over taken by other players in the picking order of younger players and his loan deals have not exactly worked out for a number of reasons.
I would expect we either give him another loan in the Championship with a view that this is final chance, increase value or can come back and fight for a place. Or, we decide it is better to sell and get him a move with either a sell on clause/ buy back option.
Unfortunately I think he will not get to the standard we need going forward.
6.) 29 Apr 2025 16:42:03
Sell him with sell on clause.
7.) 29 Apr 2025 18:08:49
I think he missed the boat unfortunately. He was highly rated but got injured at just the wrong moment. Who knows what might have happened if he didn't get injured.
Either way it's kind of irrelevant now, Mainoo and Collyer have over taken him, while likes of Kone, McAllister, Scanlon and Thwaites are also highly rated and might soon be ready to push towards the first team squad.
If Gore is to forge a good career inn football he needs to start playing at the senior level regularly. To do that he will likely need to leave on a permanent deal.
He won't the first highly rated youngster to leave and he won't be the last. Charlie Savage is now playing for Reading in League 1, and Zidane Iqbal for Utrecht in the Netherlands. Remember when they had that phenomenal pre-season and a couple of good cameos at the start of EtH's tenure?
Some step up, most don't. But as a club we tend to give them more of a chance than most.
It's probably time for Gore to move on for his own best interests. I'd wish him well and hope he has a great career.
8.) 29 Apr 2025 23:17:07
he's had 2 loans and only played 3 or 4 games. my mates a port vale fan, they had him last year and he said in 1 half of football you could tell he was mentally weak and wouldn't make it. Hid behind an injury. Rotherham manager alluded to the same this season, We have enough of them, let him go.
9.) 30 Apr 2025 06:43:39
Oh so his possession stats are better than Fred’s, is that the same stats you always say that a certain poster uses to mask the truth!
So if we are using stats that normally you don’t like, what about running stats, what about passing to your own player stats, let’s just forget he played for Brazil very well too, no one saying Fred was great but I would rather have him in my team and the money in the bank then Ugarte in my team!
10.) 30 Apr 2025 12:13:02
Fred was used in the wrong position here tho he was never a holding mid was more box to box till UTD signed him Ugartes not bad dosent exactly tear it up obvs just a typical ETH signing. Ye i'd have kept Fred and put that money towards a striker tho i'd not have touched strikers with scoring records of Hoijlund and Zirkzee with a bargepole in the first place 9 goals at Atalanta 72 million fee was insane i get potential but that's a 10/ 15 million punt at best which is what he's worth now. Can make a good start in 1 window tumble no wasting money on more defenders which imo ain't that bad tho we concede loads problems are from the traffic cones in front of the defense can't hold or progress the ball so easy to play thro UTD are slow amd weak on the ball Amos wingbacks can wait his 1st one Dorgus so far been nothing special.
11.) 30 Apr 2025 13:18:44
As we can see from the players that have come through this season, if he was good enough he would have got his chance .
12.) 01 May 2025 06:48:56
I’m not 100% sure, but I’m guessing someone isn’t a Ugarte fan.
13.) 01 May 2025 11:48:56
TBH I am not a fan of one ETH signing, For the life of me can’t understand one of them signings, must have been an ulterior motive, surely. but for me the worst got to be Antony, because he worked with him for years, so should have known him inside out and know not only he not worth 80 mil, but was never suited to the premier and should have also known the personal baggage he had, that shows a total lack of knowledge…
So no not a Ugarte fan either or the rest.
14.) 01 May 2025 12:28:20
I'd noticed.
15.) 01 May 2025 12:38:23
Sure, sell Gore.
I actually quite like Ugarte and Bruno as a midfield pairing. I think it gets the best out of Bruno.
I'd rather Utd buy a pair of 10s or a 10 and a RWB depending on where Amad plays.
Collyer did well and needs more games. Kone is coming through. Let's see what happens.
Up front and GK are the priorities. Midfield can wait another year
The only issue will be if Bruno leaves and TBH I wouldn't blame him. Then Utd really are in trouble.
16.) 01 May 2025 13:42:15
I must admit i expected a lot more from Ugarte and i agree with Germansuppclub he is slow and gets caught on the ball a lot but unfortunately i think that he is currently best option we have to play that role.
We are not as open as we were earlier this season but that midfield is a real weak link in the United team. They way teams cut through us sometimes is mind boggling Lyon did it with 10 men in the last round.
17.) 05 May 2025 08:11:15
Ugarte isn't a problem, he's been good without being great so far. But then I think a lot of that is down to his midfield partner.
Amorim's system uses a double pivot in midfield, and he doesn't want his wingbacks to invert into midfield. That means the midfield can be outnumbered by a side that plays with a midfield three.
The solution to this is twofold. Firstly, the inside forwards need to stay narrower and press very effectively but also understand where they need to position themselves to cut off passing lanes centrally. At United this has been difficult at times when Garnacho for example who isn't a natural when it comes to off the ball movement is playing. Bruno two at times has a tendency to press relentlessly but that does mean he vacates space that can be used by the opposition to get the ball into midfield.
Secondly, Amorim tends to use a very energetic and mobile midfield double pivot. They don't tend to be expansive passers, but players with a great engine and understanding of space. They work together and with the inside forwards to cut off passing lanes centrally forcing the opposition to go down the flanks. Again so far at United Amorim has struggled to find the right partner for Ugarte. Particularly in the more physically demanding EPL. In Europe Casemiro has been able to partner Ugarte effectively, but he doesn't have the stamina or mobility to do so in the EPL.
To be honest Bruno has probably been Ugarte's best partner in the EPL, even though he has a tendency to over commit himself at times which has left us open.
Mainoo is a phenomenal talent, but he lacks both the athleticism and the reading of the game currently to fullfil this role in Amorim's system effectively and consistently. Which is why Amorim has preferred to play him further forward, while he develops at least.
Eriksen is obviously not a great fit and we have been at our poorest when he has played deeper. Maybe if Mount was able to stay fit he might be a good partner for Ugarte.
We've been linked with Ederson from Atalanta who looks an ideal fit, energetic, mobile, technically strong and relentless.
While if we were able to bring in a player like Cunha and/ or Mbeumo then we would have the right sort of player to play ahead of and work with the double pivot to force teams wide to try and progress the ball.
I don't think Ugarte is a problem, he just cannot transform the midfield by himself.
18.) 05 May 2025 10:26:49
Far too sensible an answer shappy.
23 Apr 2025 18:58:59
Well just had a little look at Sky Sports Rumours.
We must have a lot of money or lots of players are leaving. Links via them are -
Cunha
Delap
Sesko
Ramsdale
Osimhen
Semenyo
Not forgetting previous with -
Branthwaite
Bellingham (Jobe)
Wharton
Gyorkes
Maybe this next window we also get De Jong?
1.) 24 Apr 2025 04:18:29
And Snidjer
Problem for me is nothing is that exciting even on that made up list, guess it shows where we are shopping nowadays!
2.) 24 Apr 2025 09:14:15
Surprised we’re not being linked with more keepers. Replacing Onana is as important as signing a proven goalscorer.
3.) 24 Apr 2025 12:48:28
German,
Who would you be excited by? That list is made up of a load of players who would massively improve us and it would be great if we signed some of them, who is it you are after? The top clubs are being linked with a lot of them players as well.
4.) 24 Apr 2025 13:22:09
I think trying to sell Onana will be hard.
5.) 24 Apr 2025 15:36:11
Clearly I excite you GDS, but that’s another story
And no no one on that list excites me, but like it also says it’s where we are are shopping at this time and if they excite RA that’s all that matters and he thinks he can get a tune out of them then great.
Being we are shopping at Lidl and if anything to do with me, which it isn’t I would go for Mateta beast of a player and works his socks off and can finish.
Along with Cunha yes and Odi back up
The rest of that list I would not touch with yours!
6.) 24 Apr 2025 17:34:30
Add Rayan Cherki to the list.
7.) 24 Apr 2025 18:26:53
Niko Gaitan not on the list?
8.) 24 Apr 2025 19:36:21
And…
Mastantuano
Johnny Cardoso
Ederson
Matata
Dibling
James McAter
Hayden Hackney
Chris Rigg
Man Utd = biggest club in the world = easy clickbait.
9.) 24 Apr 2025 21:22:10
German and GDS sitting on a tree
K I S S I N G.
10.) 25 Apr 2025 16:51:35
We will always be linked with at least 100 different players between May and August every single year.
Just part of the parcel of being the biggest club in the world (at least in terms of media attention) .
We also have numerous positions in the squad that need strengthening. Along with new owners who want change things and put their own stamp on the club.
I like this idea of the club looking to move early for players like Cunha and Delap. Players with buy out clauses and who are EPL proven. Getting deals for players like that done quickly will enable the manager to have the best chance of starting next season well.
11.) 26 Apr 2025 05:47:33
Not quite true being biggest club in the world media wise is it, maybe biggest club in England in the media, the media is as big in Germany with Bayern the media is as big in France with PSG as is the Spanish media with RM and Barca, but like most you seem to be blinded by everything United.
12.) 26 Apr 2025 08:53:08
He’s stalked Shappy for years it’s definitely not me he wants in the tree.
Mateta haha worse than a lot of players on that list.
13.) 26 Apr 2025 14:30:31
Really GDS, so what players from that list scored more goals then Mateta and more assist in the premier league this season then from that list….
14.) 27 Apr 2025 22:39:33
cunha.
15.) 29 Apr 2025 11:39:56
What was the name of the Dutch midfielder we thought we were in for every year?
The one that some thought was the answer to our midfield woes, and some thought was a slow carthorse.
He always seemed to be injured.
Probably Van something ?.
{Ed007's Note - Wesley Shny.... Snieyjd....Shneed... Wesley Sneijder ?
16.) 29 Apr 2025 14:05:51
No, Ed007 ? Another fella. Solid central midfielder. This is killing me. Don't want to resort to Google! ?.
{Ed007's Note - I'm lost too......
17.) 29 Apr 2025 15:38:46
Strootman! ?.
{Ed007's Note - ????
18.) 29 Apr 2025 19:03:02
That would have kept me up all night ?.
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15 May 2025 20:48:11
Metro have reported (lol) that if we win the Europa league that instead of an open top bus parade the owners will put on a BBQ for staff and players.
1.) 15 May 2025 22:14:02
Widely reported
Maybe it’s BYO alcohol and food.
{Ed025's Note - and some charcoal and a paper plate.. :)
04 May 2025 06:10:19
I know it's supply and demand, however £699 for one night return flight to an airport an hour from Bilbao and no hotel or match ticket is disgusting.
1.) 04 May 2025 11:07:38
I booked when we went 3-0 up. Have to go to Gatwick to Santander then just over an hour drive cost £170 for flights and €70 for car hire. Your right though it is disgusting. Once full time was up they’d gone up to £500.Absolute joke.
2.) 04 May 2025 11:58:16
Why is it a joke. They're will be enough people prepared to pay.
Went should any company not try to maximise their profit.
If you don't want to pay don't go or find alternative routes etc.
People make me laugh when they give it about prices if you don't want to pay don't but they have Ebrington entitlement to charge as they see fit. Trust me they will sell every seat. The price is not the issue. The issue is you don't want to pay what they are asking.
3.) 04 May 2025 14:11:56
Yes it is disgusting, totally. But whilst the demand is there and there are enough people to keep coming forward they will do this.
Where it is wrong is that it takes the travel out of the realistic means of most united supporters. What worries me slightly is what people have to sacrifice to afford the travel.
At match day level the increased prices will drain the soul out of the stadium with the average supporter unable to attend and the seats filled with the egg and cress brigade.
But again from a business perspective the more they can make the better as sad as it is for the real fans.
That’s life i am afraid.
4.) 04 May 2025 16:28:25
Keano, don't know if you own a house, if yes and time came to sell it and estate agent tells you there is high current demand and consequently last weeks value is such you could now ask for £50,000 more, would you say no thanks let's go for old price or would you say bish bosh, give us the dosh?
5.) 04 May 2025 19:06:43
The price, is the price.
6.) 05 May 2025 09:16:36
It’s not a new phenomenon, i experienced the same when booking a hotel and flights for Barcelona 1999.
Bilbao. Great looking stadium which looked the part, maybe needed more seats for a big final. However, UEFA don’t seem to look at the infrastructure. They hold finals in places that may not be able to cope with the demand for more flights and hotel beds.
A Bolo v Bibao final wouldn’t have been a problem. All the hotel owners and airlines will think different. I will watch at home and spend the money elsewhere, my United travelling support days are behind me I think. Enjoy if we and you get to Bibao.
7.) 05 May 2025 10:03:08
Two things can be true at the same time. Yes, it's supply and demand, and yes, it's extortionate for the average fan.
24 Apr 2025 14:03:32
What happened to the poster who used to link us with Tielemans etc? Used to like reading his random transfers.
1.) 24 Apr 2025 14:15:06
Ronnie :-)
2.) 24 Apr 2025 15:09:37
Seeing Vardys on a free i'd grab him so much better than Hoijlund even at his age could do a turn as back up for a year ship of Rasmus and Zirkzee be class seeing a legend like Vardy at UTD for a year rather than a pair of lumbering clowns up top.
3.) 24 Apr 2025 15:38:54
Brim boi, you think Vardy’s boss Rebecca would have him anywhere near United!
4.) 24 Apr 2025 16:10:14
Haha forgot about the battle of the wags Rebecca the grass tho if it came to i'd rather smash her than Rooneys Mrs.
5.) 24 Apr 2025 16:55:22
Random transfer rumours are the best need more posters like that little tit bits rather than paragraphs some posters write with zero substance everybody should write a random dodgy rumour.
6.) 24 Apr 2025 17:30:50
Like I saw Mateo Retegui getting a Chicken Royale in the KFC on the Chester Road?
7.) 24 Apr 2025 18:30:15
Someone would do much better with all that service and the countless opportunities that Højland benefits from.
8.) 24 Apr 2025 18:45:37
Ronnie was brilliant with the random players he came up with . If memory serves they all were young and no one had heard of them.
Did any actually materialise or end up being big players.
9.) 24 Apr 2025 20:07:05
Brad, two players I recall he used to go on about, among many, where Tielmans and Aleksandar Mitrović. He called those well, mind you was bound to get some right out of all those named.
10.) 24 Apr 2025 21:24:23
Ronnie was brilliant? Yeah, maybe 1 in 100 times. 99 times it was random nonsense names.
11.) 24 Apr 2025 22:15:52
So many amazing contributors to this site over the years.
Then they just disappear and we have no idea why.
{Ed025's Note - thats life MM, some will have been banned, some will have left of their own accord and sadly some will have passed away i suppose mate..
12.) 25 Apr 2025 11:59:50
Im still here guyssss so chillll.
13.) 25 Apr 2025 12:32:05
Where is Mitrovic now he was a baller could do with a nasty piece of work like him in the team.
14.) 25 Apr 2025 16:32:00
Saudi.
15.) 25 Apr 2025 17:01:04
I think Tielemans got too old for Ronnie, he only liked to link us to teenagers ?.
16.) 27 Apr 2025 23:04:31
Ronnie used to name the wonderkids from the latest Footie Manager sites best wonderkid list. In fact probably a lot do, and as there was no game this year we aren't going g to get so many random unknowns this summer.
22 Apr 2025 16:04:40
Right, haven't posted much. Looking for some info regarding PSR.
If we were to spend £100 million this summer, could that be spread over 3 years to comply with PSR? What gets taken into account? Have Chelsea got round some of it by offering longer contracts?
If we sold Sancho, Rashford, Anthony and Malacia, would that just be money to spend on top or are some of their fees and wages tied up already?
Thanks.
1.) 22 Apr 2025 16:39:22
? 1. Amortization in Football Transfers In football, amortization refers to how a player’s transfer fee is spread over the length of their contract for accounting purposes. Example: Let’s say a club buys a player for £60 million on a 5-year contract. In the accounts, this transfer is amortized at £12 million per year (60 ÷ 5). So even though £60m might be paid upfront or in installments, the books only show £12m in each financial year. This helps clubs manage their books under PSR (more on that in a sec) .
? 2. What is PSR (Profit and Sustainability Rules)? Premier League clubs must follow rules that limit how much they can lose financially over a 3-year period. Currently, the PSR limit is £105 million in allowable losses over 3 years (i. e. £35m per year) . Certain costs are excluded like infrastructure, youth development, women’s football, and community projects. But transfer fees, wages, and agent fees are all included. Clubs must show they’re staying within these rules, or face penalties like points deductions (see Everton or Nottingham Forest) .
? 3. Why Selling Homegrown Players Like Rashford is Powerful This is where it gets juicy. When you sell a homegrown player (someone developed through your youth system, like Rashford), there is no amortized cost—they're essentially recorded in the books as having £0 cost because the club didn't buy them. So if United sell Rashford for £60 million: The entire £60 million counts as immediate profit for PSR purposes. Compare that to buying a player for £60 million on a 5-year deal—it only costs £12 million per year in the accounts. So: Selling Rashford: +£60m profit in Year 1. Buying three players at £60m each: -£36m total amortized cost in Year 1. That’s where your “3x what we can spend” logic comes in. For every £1 of homegrown sale, a club might be able to responsibly spend £3-4 in transfer fees (spread across contracts) and still meet PSR.
{Ed025's Note - good stuff Philip, cheers for that mate..
2.) 22 Apr 2025 17:12:01
You're welcome buddy, hope it helps a little.
{Ed025's Note - it did for me Philip, the money side confuses me mate..
3.) 22 Apr 2025 18:41:36
Cheers dude.
4.) 22 Apr 2025 21:52:58
Any chance you could post Philips post on the other pages too? Might help people understand, it sure did it for me and I’m about as thick as they come.
{Ed025's Note - i will certainly put it forward Baker..
17 Apr 2025 17:01:22
So looking for some posters to give me some expert opinions. Ericksen, Heaton and Evan's to leave this summer, no sell on value but maybe around £100000 a week saved on wages. Antony, £40 million would be amazing, not sure the saving on wages. Rashford, £35 million and £250000 a week saved on wages?, Sancho, £30 million and £250000 a week saved on wages. If we can get £100 million in transfer fees and save £100 million a week in wages, what does that look like in regards to spending this summer?
1.) 17 Apr 2025 17:17:02
I know we over pay…. But 100 million a week in wages is pushing it!
2.) 17 Apr 2025 17:54:59
The wages save on that lot, sadly, is not £100m a week. It would be approx £1m per week, still a very decent figure £52m a year. Lindelof's contract expires this summer that is another £6m per year.
Think we will try and move Casemiro on also, that would be another £15m a year.
There may be other sales seeing a potential salary reduction of approx £80m to £90m. This would clearly give substantial scope to cover wages of a number of new players, while also achieving a reduction in the overall wages bill.
In terms of transfer fees, with £100m in sales (hopefully more will come) we could, in theory, spend £400m in transfer fees for new player's to stay within financial rules. I think we will spend a considerable amount this summer, just my view, of course time will tell, only a few month's to go!
3.) 17 Apr 2025 19:46:44
I really don’t understand why any supporters get hung up about salary’s it’s out of all proportion to the average supporter, its numbers that most don’t even understand or comprehend.
The only numbers worth worrying about are the points and goals columns that’s about the only maths supporters need to concern themselves with. All clubs employ far more educated accountants than the people lurking on these pages.
4.) 18 Apr 2025 00:36:55
You don't understand why supporters are interested in finances?
Given the massive relevance and importance of this subject to the success or otherwise of a club it would seem to be an interest entirely reasonable and understandable.
You say the only numbers worthy of interest should be points and goals columns, well given the relevance of finances to these columns it is perfectly natural to show an interest.
You seem to be disparaging towards the intelligence of football fans, perhaps you feel the hoi polloi do not deserve to understand this matter.
I do find it somewhat pompous when someone tells others what they should or should not show interest in. It suggests they feel they are the only ones to understand the subject matter and to suggest you know the level of intelligence of others is arrogant in the extreme.
5.) 18 Apr 2025 04:18:50
As Ed02 always used to say, don’t get involved with the finances, we know there will be a big turnover of players this summer, let’s hope the club have identified some hidden gems for next season.
6.) 18 Apr 2025 05:44:36
Why worry about something you have zero control over, it’s not even worth the headspace, and I am sorry if you don’t like the remark something most don’t understand but you confirmed that yourself with the 100 million wages saving, so you exactly prove my point….
7.) 18 Apr 2025 19:59:08
It most certainly does not prove your point.
The base premise remains you do not get to tell people what they can or cannot discuss, and if it is not worth the headspace then why do you keep commenting on it.
Who knows, you may well have plenty of spare headspace.
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29 Apr 2025 13:57:24
Well look what happened to our squad player McTominay. Just thought he had potential? A lot thought Gomes had no chance and he has been called up for England.
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16 May 2025 23:45:27
Was that the same interview regarding Fergie and The Rock of Gibraltar?
07 May 2025 16:40:15
Wiggy.
I think Bruno gives us some massive spare cash to spend, someone said if we got £120 million it would equate to £80 million to spend. If we also managed to get £40 million for Rashford that could give us £360 million to spend that could be spread over any new contracts for players.
Would that be enough for Wharton, Delap, Gyorkes and maybe Cherki?
We may then get money from sales of Malacia, Sancho and Antony and also the saves wages of all players including Lindelof, Heaton and any youngsters we are releasing.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of PSR, but from what I do know it can be done.
Anyone with more knowledge let me know.
29 Apr 2025 12:17:36
Short memory Peter? Do you not remember Taibi?
24 Apr 2025 09:08:41
Jimbo, would keep Zirkzee and change him with Rashford.
22 Apr 2025 18:41:36
Cheers dude.