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14 Aug 2015 08:48:20
So the politics of the De Gea deal are coming through now.
I remember a Spanish based journo saying that Ramos would leave Real, but They will have to make it look like he wanted out, that he refused to play etc etc. That way the fans start to turn on him and "its best if he leaves".
Basically I believe this is what is happeneing now, LVG saying De Gea has asked not to play. I can understand this, but because there are reports of De Gea being "baffled" by this claim, it looks as though MUFC are trying to make it less painful for fans.
We apparently stood firm when we thought we could get a player in return, but now that maybe off the cards, we seem to be lining it up to let him leave because he has asked to.

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1.) 14 Aug 2015 09:37:38
It can't really be less painful, all the fans have known he was leaving for months.
I think its Real pay the fee or he will be sat on the bench next season.
I don't think he will be #1 if he stays, may even drop to #3.


2.) 14 Aug 2015 09:41:47
Sambastin, I think we are going to keep him her for the rest of the season just to teach him a lesson. He will play after the window closes but the first team spot may no longer be his and he will leave in summer. I think LVG's comments are there to show why he is not picking him but also to remind fans that the club is too big to be bullied. Talking about his training attitude is probably just his way of trying to give DDG a kick up the bum and to kick on.


3.) 14 Aug 2015 09:58:25
that might be true yes but hey what the hell if he wants to leave he must leave i'm sure there's more then enough players that can replace him. at da moment its a win win for madrid . get him now good. get him next season for free even better. so for me if we can get atleast wot we payed for him. goodbye david


4.) 14 Aug 2015 10:20:28
I just think we played a bad hand in our game of poker with Real Madrid. If we had just said £25m and he is yours, instead we priced DDG out of the move in a "we won't be bullied" but it looks like it might backfire on us now.
I have totally accepted that he will leave, that isn't the issue. I think I get more wound up that Real Madrid ALWAYS get their own way. Always!


5.) 14 Aug 2015 10:22:32
I've long said that he should be made an example of. It's well worth losing the potential £25m in dropping him for a season. It's a complete farce. I felt the same with Rooney.
NO ONE SHOULD HOLD MANCHESTER UNITED TO RANSOM, AND NO PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN THE CLUB!!.
It an utter shambles, and Real in particular have took us for a ride long enough. I'm loving it that we are standing up for ourselves against Real. You don't see teams like Bayern getting bullied by these boys do you. We are Manchester United, the most decorated team in the premiership, where the most financial interest is, and always will be. Our league is the hardest in world football, don't forget that.
If we don't get WHAT WE WANT AS A CLUB, then it's quite simple. And it's a great sign (Albeit a small gesture) from the Glazers and the board that we are a powerhouse and this scenario will no longer be tolerated.

If possible I'd keep DDG and buy Lloris/Cillesen anyway!!! Now that would send a message!!! (Obviously why I am not on the board 😉😂)

#rantover


6.) 14 Aug 2015 10:32:18
Playing devil's advocate guys - we would happily have Bale or whoever if we could.

Real are obviously playing hard ball. Ok, let them, but we must play hard ball back. Do we want DDG to go? I guess most people's answer would be a resounding no as he was our best player last year, no doubt in my mind.

Maybe the answer is to make everyone stay until the end of their contracts, and then see if you can sign them. This constant transfer of players is only making money for them and their agents, and to make it worse, it's our money their getting (tickets/shirt sales etc. etc.)It makes me more convinced that money is spoiling the game. But then again, without these transfers, would we have anything to talk/argue/speculate about??

Just my tuppence worth.


7.) 14 Aug 2015 11:01:27
The fact is DDG bottled it for a PSG goal worried about injury when he could have cleaned everyone out including Jones, don't play him and bide your time


8.) 14 Aug 2015 14:20:53
If it's true and we have the money to get a new first choice goalkeeper then buy one and let De Gea rot in the reserves? Sounds harsh, but to a certain extent, he's brought this all on himself and Real have made things worse by not coming up with the money! Let him go for free next season!


9.) 14 Aug 2015 14:25:33
DDG is a money grabbing little runt who in conjunction with RM are tring to line their own pockets , hw will sign a pre contract with RM in Jan and I don't want any player staying at man united that is committed to another club. Sell him last minute but sell him or his negatiity will spread through the squad as quick as one of the Beasts posts.
When vidic as our captain signed for Inter he should have been sent on gardening leave the next day. I have said it before you are either red or you're dead imo. He is worse than di maria and is causing twice as much damage to morale. I hope the Madrid fans turn on him after a few mistakes then he will realise he was in the right place all along. At least here he doesn't have to listen to his girlfriends shite singing


10.) 14 Aug 2015 15:58:28
I agree with a lot of posts saying to keep him, i wouldn't give in for peanuts just to get him out because of morale.
He will go to the reserves if he stays and won't play at the Euros as he won't have had any match practice.
If LVG wanted to he could help ruin De Gea at this point, he maybe would not return to the form with a year on the sidelines, and Real might see that and go elsewhere.


11.) 14 Aug 2015 19:41:46
I'm pretty sure the money men will make the final decision on DDG rather than LVG. I personally take the stories with a pinch of salt, he wants to move but is being used as a pawn in financial negotiations between the two clubs so of course his head isn't right. If he was a "money grabbing so and so" (beyond any normal footballer!), surely he'd have signed a new deal with us a year or two ago?


12.) 14 Aug 2015 22:14:13
I'm pretty sure they got a fortune from selling us Di Maria and he was rubbish, so sod em, let's overfeed De Gea and get him fat and let him sweat it off in Madrid, it's time we stop feeling inferior and just rolling over when they want our best players, Real Madrid need knocking off their perch!

{Ed030's Note - I agree, and don't think it's fair how Madrid are able to use underhanded tricks to help sign a player. However with De Gea being Spanish and the possibility of moving home to a club like Madrid I can definitely see the appeal for him. }


 

 

 

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01 Sep 2015 13:14:09
I have to call time on LVG. I keep wanting him to succeed, hoping, but I can't see it happening. I think he is ruining everything that MUFC are/were about.
Sold or loaned all the youngsters, letting others contracts expire. Playing football that is sleep inducing.
Apparently relationship with DDG is bad, as well as Rojo. If we make no further signings after Martial that leaves us with 18 players to compete in 4 competitions with.

It all falls on the managers shoulders for me.

embarrassing. and i'm usually really positive, or at least try to be

Sambastin

1.) 01 Sep 2015 14:14:16
I think you just summed it up perfectly, I've also tried to support him and hope everything would come together but surely we have a weaker squad than last season, correct me if i'm wrong but i'm sure I remember ed002 saying that appointing LVG could all end in tears or something to that effect, heres hoping he has some sort of masterplan for the season ahead because we have 4 competitions to play in with a senior squad of about 20 and with specific positions where if we get a couple of injuries youngsters will have to play, i'm not as positive as I once was.


2.) 01 Sep 2015 14:15:12
I agree mate. I have always stuck by the manager but I can't believe we are where we currently are. The team looks weaker than it did this time last season.


3.) 01 Sep 2015 14:35:11
not to mention that he is playing the majority of our players in wrong positions. He seems to have this obsession with 80% possession and death by 1000 passes. But its just so bland to watch and we never really look like scoring do we.
We are now a 1-0 team, the days of 2/3/4-0 are gone and with it the enjoyment of watching our team play.


 

 

20 Aug 2015 10:49:11
I am sat here wondering if all this transfer stuff is to do with the Glazers holding the purse strings. Maybe they don't want to spend big at the moment?
Our net spend this window is next to nothing now, and if we don't add any new faces then they will have done well. Especially if we do in all likelihood qualify for the Champions League.

I know we have spent big fees on big players, but I really can't think of another reason we would try and purchase a player like Pedro in a structured deal rather than pay the £22m they wanted.

It makes it even more peculiar with the influx of sponsorship money too.

Sambastin

1.) 20 Aug 2015 11:57:47
Hi Sam,
I think Adnan Januzaj is the answer you are looking for.


2.) 20 Aug 2015 12:17:51
Maybe it is just as simple as we didn't think he was worth the price they wanted? Just because you have money doesn't mean you should spend it. There is no conspiracy theory, we didn't value him that highly.


3.) 20 Aug 2015 12:53:48
Sambastin lvg called of the deal we made a bid for muller made a bid for bale earlier that tells you that there is cash not the glazers fault let's wait till after the Window to access our team and our transfer business I remember when we let clyne move to Liverpool all of us were disappointed now look our darmian has performed so let's watch and see we should know by now money is not a problem just lvg wants certain type of players and obviously that's why he called the deal for Pedro off we were never in for him the press only link him to us when e became available and it was obvious he was leaving barca


4.) 20 Aug 2015 13:25:34
I don't believe that Adnan is the answer. He has potential, and yes he is going to be great but right now can you see him getting us to the latter stages of the Champions League, or to have a genuine title push?

I just find it very strange how we have let both Otamendi and Pedro sign for our direct rivals when apparently we were in pole position for both. Only then to deny any interest at all.

I think a few seasons back, we were SEEN TO BE GOING FOR certain players, Ronaldo, Bale, Fabregas, Kroos etc knowing that we couldn't get them. I can't help feeling that the same is happening again with Ramos, Bale, Muller. It looks great to be linked with these names and via the media we look a powerhouse in world football with £80m and £100m bids next to our names. Good publicity if nothing else.


 

 

19 Aug 2015 11:31:23
So Pedro set to sign for Chelsea. very bizarre turn up for the books there.
However, if this happens, then we have allowed it to happen for a reason. Will be very interesting now to see what happens.

Apparently, part of it, was LVG treatment of De Gea, although I think that's just media drivel.

So its one of Muller, Bale and errrr. struggling now

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19 Aug 2015 09:49:16
I have a feeling that either Mata or Herrera will leave before the end of the window and as much as I like both immensely I hope its Mata.
Herrera just offers a bit more. Both seem to be genuinely nice lads and its a shame but truth be told they are to good to be bench players.
LVG obviously wants Schweinsteiger in there, as he said so last night, and Schneiderlin is going to be the other. Januzaj, Carrick, Memphis, PEDRO, Young, all playing for the same sort of positions.

Its a pity, but something has to give I suppose.

Sambastin

1.) 19 Aug 2015 11:02:29
Is that Mata who has started every game so far in pre season and in the league?

It is a SQUAD game, we don't just have 11 players and sell the rest.


2.) 19 Aug 2015 11:04:21
Not sure Carrick is playing for the same position; he is much more dep and central.


3.) 19 Aug 2015 11:12:41
Hasn't mata started every game so far?


4.) 19 Aug 2015 11:14:43
I wouldn't want Mata to leave either but he would seem the more likely to leave.


5.) 19 Aug 2015 11:59:04
Could be in the shop window, hence why he is getting the games (stranger things have happened). He doesn't contribute enough for me, he stifles our play and would suit a team in Europe, especially as LVG doesn't want him in the hole. There was a lot of talk about Valencia being in for him, maybe when the Otamendi deal happens, (depending on what they owe for Negredo)?


6.) 19 Aug 2015 11:39:20
GDS2 yes that Mata, but we know LVG wants pace which Mata doesn't have, and can you see him being content on the bench. Although saying that, since I wrote that post Pedro has signed for Chelsea so its all irrelevant anyway :)


 

 

18 Aug 2015 13:50:36
What is everyones obsession with our transfer targets needing to have a sell on value. Don't you think that's why we struggle at times? Do you think Real thought about that when they signed Ronaldo, or Barca when they signed Suarez.
Why can't we just buy players for now. i'm looking at the Zlatan links and hearing all sorts of drivel. Regardless of whether he would be good for us or not the money side shouldn't come into it from a fans point of view.

Sambastin

1.) 18 Aug 2015 17:09:03
Exactly, mate. It's a ridiculous concept for a club with our revenues.


2.) 18 Aug 2015 18:58:58
Agreed guys. I think zlatan will be fantastic signing for us.


 

 

 

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14 Aug 2015 10:20:28
I just think we played a bad hand in our game of poker with Real Madrid. If we had just said £25m and he is yours, instead we priced DDG out of the move in a "we won't be bullied" but it looks like it might backfire on us now.
I have totally accepted that he will leave, that isn't the issue. I think I get more wound up that Real Madrid ALWAYS get their own way. Always!

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09 Jul 2015 12:51:51
If Di Maria leaves, which could happen, endless links to Bayern and PSG then maybe this could happen. I think something is happening that is big, because we wouldn't let Falcao, RVP, Nani, Chicarito (pending) etc leave without something being agreed behind the scenes.

Can I ask people, why is there so much secrecy surrounding footballers, I mean thinking of De Gea, why doesn't he come out and say either way. Surely he has told Mata and Herrera what his plans are yet nothing is ever leaked to media. Is it the clubs that put these embargoes out to protect themselves and their £'s?

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01 Jul 2015 12:28:10
Also early June didn't he come out and say how good his relationship is with LvG?
We definitely need another forward, as I believe RVP will leave and with Falcao and Chicharito both out. I think the media are desperate for anything to sell papers, so far we have been close to signing Cavani, Benzema, Lacazette, Muller. Throw enough sh*t and eventually something sticks and they can say "you heard it here first"

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21 Jan 2015 13:36:23
yes but that's the fear with most players. Madrid want someone they will get him.
apparently a paper called La Stampa (how reliable I have no idea) are reporting that we have bid £61.5 m for Pogba

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01 Sep 2015 14:35:11
not to mention that he is playing the majority of our players in wrong positions. He seems to have this obsession with 80% possession and death by 1000 passes. But its just so bland to watch and we never really look like scoring do we.
We are now a 1-0 team, the days of 2/3/4-0 are gone and with it the enjoyment of watching our team play.

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20 Aug 2015 13:25:34
I don't believe that Adnan is the answer. He has potential, and yes he is going to be great but right now can you see him getting us to the latter stages of the Champions League, or to have a genuine title push?

I just find it very strange how we have let both Otamendi and Pedro sign for our direct rivals when apparently we were in pole position for both. Only then to deny any interest at all.

I think a few seasons back, we were SEEN TO BE GOING FOR certain players, Ronaldo, Bale, Fabregas, Kroos etc knowing that we couldn't get them. I can't help feeling that the same is happening again with Ramos, Bale, Muller. It looks great to be linked with these names and via the media we look a powerhouse in world football with £80m and £100m bids next to our names. Good publicity if nothing else.

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19 Aug 2015 15:05:53
I mentioned in another post about Mata being sold. If not this window then I could see January as a possibility.

I think he is technically very, very good, but he is competing for the desired NO:10 place which IF we bring in a CF would belong to Rooney, and we know Rooney plays because he is club captain.

Mata has started all the games so far but in a position where he is not natural and that position usually requires speed.

I personally think Mata is a class act, but if he doesn't "fit the system", then sadly he will lose out.

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19 Aug 2015 11:39:20
GDS2 yes that Mata, but we know LVG wants pace which Mata doesn't have, and can you see him being content on the bench. Although saying that, since I wrote that post Pedro has signed for Chelsea so its all irrelevant anyway :)

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19 Aug 2015 10:22:50
after watching him lose the ball last night, then sprint to win it back and continue that sprint down the right wing to cross for Rooney I am inclined to agree. Shaw is the player that has impressed me most so far this campaign. Knowing that he took a fitness coach on holiday, says a lot about him doesn't it. Reap what you sow! (spelling)

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