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29 May 2017 13:03:43
Why's everyone getting so worked up about Silva? Monaco has had a great year, but they remind me of Dortmund a few years back, great team, but then all their players leave and don't do particularly well elsewhere.
I really hope we sign Eric Dier, that would be my main target. Long term replacement for cdm and centre back cover. I would definitely throw 60m+ for him.
We really need a lb, preferably Danny Rose or Jose Gaya. A cb, I would take a punt on Stefan de Vrij, I know he's had his injury problems, but has international experience and has played in a very defensive league for a while now. I would much rather him than a very inflated Michael Keane. I would much let Rojo and Jones go, with Smalling and Blind the year after, as to many at one time will screw us over.
Im very excited with the Perisic rumours as he is a great player. Do think we need a Matuidi or a Parejo to add numbers in midfield, but Dier would solve a lot of problems at least for a season.
I really wanted Morata, but that ship has sailed, but Griezman would be a very adequate back up. I hope Rashford and Martial are given more chance up top next year though.
1.) 29 May 2017 13:58:39
De vrij a good signing, keep smalling but let go rojo, griezmann an ok back up to morata,
2.) 29 May 2017 14:24:19
You can't be serious about Eric Dier mate. 60 million?
I watched a ton of Spurs this year and for me he is the weak link in that team. I will not be surprised if they buy a replacement for him. His passing is woeful and DCM or not you need to be able to pass the ball well in todays football.
Perisic and morata i would be happy to see but eric dier will add nothing to our team. Pogba is also loose with his passing hence the poor assist numbers and we need a CM that can dictate play.
3.) 29 May 2017 14:39:15
I see the last part was cut, a bit harsh isn't it.
{Ed002's Note - Your posts have become rude and abusive - you are lucky they don't jst get deleted. As it does every summer - the pages are simply deegrading.}
4.) 29 May 2017 14:58:51
Please, Please Please. Don't hack off Ed 002 again, just when info may get a few more bones to it.
Let's all be patient - and polite otherwise we will all be the losers.
5.) 29 May 2017 15:07:18
You do know I was joking about morata and griezman 'common_sense? ' They are both great players, my preference is morata, but I am not trying to belittle griezman, obviously their prices show who is considered best. I know it's hard to tell over text, but you need to show a little common sense and not take everything so serious.
As for Rojo, don't be fooled by a bit of passion. He's constantly injured himself and is not particularly anyone's first choice. As for smalling, he isn't the greatest but he is English and is a lot more experienced in the premier league and playing centre back.
Eric Dier is a very good player and is someone I think would prosper in our team. As for passing, when you spend £80 million you expect someone to be able to pass. What does pogba offer then? certainly not goals.
6.) 29 May 2017 15:13:12
We need a Dier type player . If not Dier then that Scottish midfielder at PSG "Mc Tweedi" would do nicely😆😆.
7.) 29 May 2017 15:28:11
Aaallj5. I disagree with basically all the post. Pogba has been a lot better than people give him credit for.
I'll sell Smalling tomorrow as he's useless and has been going backwards for three years.
Dier is average at best. If we pay £60m we will show the world that our club is the laughing stock it is. There are much better options including our own fosu mensah.
Greizman and Morata both excellent. But I'm not sure greizman will excel in our league. Morata is a big risk as he's been in and out of teams and not sure how he'll perform if the pressure is on him as the main striker.
Let's see what happens.
8.) 29 May 2017 16:33:45
60m for dier is a valuation bordering on lunacy even at today's hugely inflated prices.
There is over a dozen cdm players that are better and would not command that sort of fee. I think he is a tidy player but wannayama is keeping him out of that position at spurs more often than not for a reason. Good player but not the best option to us I'm sure.
I also think Rojo is very poor if we could sell Rojo smalling and Jones for a combined 60m and replace them with Keane lindelof and tuanzabe for 60m that would be business well done imo.
I reckon the greizman and ddg sagas might rumble on a while yet. I'd like greizman to join but don't want his camp jerking us around.
Perisic I don't know a lot about but he is highly regarded and has had a decent season In a poor inter team always does well for Croatia and he will give us a different dimension of he signs.
Did we lose out on silva? I'm sure we enquired but not sure if he was on our first choice list.
I've not seen confirmation of mendy to city yet. He would be a great option for lb.
Fabhino is the 1 Monaco player I would like us to sign above any other. Strong versatile And technically superb.
9.) 29 May 2017 16:54:13
What I feel would happen is that 2-3 players would leave this window, and 2-3 again in January after growing frustrated sitting on the bench.
If anyone has seen Perisic, he's very good with the ball at his feet and carrying the ball. Traditional winger don't usually work out well in Italy. He takes people on a lot, and is of a good height as well.
But my personal opinion is to spend a little extra and buy either Pulisic or Ousmane Dembele who both are younger and better wingers than Perisic.
10.) 29 May 2017 17:26:57
Good posts Ken and Rohan. Perisic is a good player but due to his age, we can't be paying over the odds for him. But he's certainly better than any wingers we've got. I also think we should go for Costa from Bayern as we need more than one winger. Martial Rashford Mata lingard and mkhiktaryan have all played wide and failed in my opinion. So we need specialized wingers.
I agree with Ken that Fabinho will be a fantastic addition. Also, despite his age, Matuidi will be a fantastic addition to our team.
11.) 29 May 2017 18:04:11
Ken do you think we would get £20m a piece for each of Jones, Smalling and Rojo?
12.) 29 May 2017 18:27:04
Yes wazza. West ham Newcastle stoke everton or the likes could do a lot worse than spend 20m plus on the likes of Jones or smalling 2 English internationals great experience both would be low risk ( ignoring jones injury record) and Better than anything they have. Even getting 50m plus for the 3 and replace them with lindeof Keane and tuanzabe for 60m it would be sound business.
13.) 29 May 2017 19:55:33
15-20m each for Smalling and Rojo, 10-15 for Jones (I doubt clubs will ignore his injury record Ken)
14.) 29 May 2017 21:19:48
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It never changes here.
Everyone agreeing that Dier was a 'weak link'. It's just incredible.
He is Not £60m, but definitely is not a weak link.
We are in for him, and he would be a perfect addition.
Just need Ngiak and IAMKLOOT to reel this in.
{Ed007's Note - I miss KLOOT. I bet if him and Sydney were still posting there would be a thread about the EC victory anniversary. I know it doesn't mean much to those that think football was invented in 1992 but it's an important part of the club's history and not one poster has mentioned it. They're all too busy worrying about who City are signing or dreaming up ways to spend millions that they have no control over and pulling their pudden over the thought of who Utd should sign. It's such a shame.}
15.) 29 May 2017 21:39:25
Mulamno so you agree a max of 55m for the 3.
16.) 29 May 2017 23:38:23
Omg bond 😂😂😂.
{Ed007's Note - Am I wrong though, Patzi? Legends of Utd, REAL legends who loved the club and not just because of their pay packet led by a wonderful man that nearly died in Munich and who went on to lead Utd to be kings of Europe when it wasn't all about the money and not one poster on here has mentioned it - don't you think that's a shame?}
17.) 29 May 2017 23:24:47
Ken if you're valuing Jones and Smalling at 20 million plus then I feel a lot better about my valuation of Dier. According to most people on this site both of them are deemed flops, plus they are on very expensive wages and injury prone.
Why wouldn't the West Ham's and Evertons spend an extra 10 million and get themselves a Keane or Lindelo? Both are younger and more desirable.
20 Mar 2017 09:15:57
Has anyone read that express article today? With a headline which reds "Man Utd blamed for tunnel incident" I had to have a look.
By the end of it i'm finding it hard to believe we played a game yesterday. Also the first paragraph stats we won 2-1? I definitely know I watched the different game.
Just thought I'd see I wasn't going mental?
10 Nov 2016 09:38:44
Has anyone seen that BBC article about how jose is taking charge of all aspects of the club? He is upset with how the club is being run from the pre-season tours, sport science development and the players fitness, something that has been debated a bit over the last few years.
I think in todays modern game players need to be extremely fit, not on their ability to run for 90 minutes as that's discrediting previous generations, but their ability to play consistently game after game. This is an area I think our physios fail. We tend to get a lot of injuries, I think we have ten players out at the moment. However this was also an issue under lvg, with many blaming his training methods. When you consider the intensity of the league and the high press style being played by a number of teams at the moment, assessing and sorting that area out is a good move by Jose?
1.) 10 Nov 2016 11:03:38
A lot of people in here have been saying it's been too easy for too many for too long.
Strong leadership is needed to get back on track. Jose had that experience he had the credentials. I support him 100% in those endeavours.
Yes he will upset a few and will make some mistakes but show me a man that had never made mistakes and or poor decisions during such a big process.
2.) 10 Nov 2016 11:27:11
Similar stories came out when moyes and lvg were in charge, its a good excuse.
3.) 10 Nov 2016 11:29:23
Yeah read it, interesting read and if so Jose has a big job to do so we all need to get behind him.
4.) 10 Nov 2016 12:06:19
The injury issues have been issue for many years even going as far back as Sir Alex's final years, Saha, Hargreaves, Smalling, Jones, Vidic, Rafael, Fabio, Valencia, Smith ect we have had injury issues for years. I think we have been in the top three for injuries every year for the last 5-6 years. At one point it was considered the even the training pitch was at fault and it was tore up and relaid. Maybe a lack of progress in the sports science/ medical side of things taken hold, could well be an area effected by cuts/ lack of investment by our owners.
We have known for a while things were quite right behind the scenes, Moyes started an overturn in scouting, LvG with the youth set up, now Mourinho with sport science/ medical department.
When stepping back every manager has seen a club with serious faults behind the scenes.
It makes you ask just how much was Sir Alex able to compensate for.
5.) 10 Nov 2016 12:36:04
It's worrying considering United invested millions into their sports science department not long ago.
6.) 10 Nov 2016 13:17:16
Ken
I totally agree.
7.) 10 Nov 2016 14:23:09
Has a king sized omelette to fix. He is going to break a few eggs not unlike site Alex he had taken over a club that and team under performing. Full of over paid poor buys with what soars to be a lazy or easy culture. A squad capable of winning a cup but not a league because of a poor mentality and bad habits. He will sort it out.
Imo.
8.) 10 Nov 2016 17:28:21
Totally agree Ken. We look for strong management and when Jose tries to do that, people knock him for it.
He IS doing the right thing. There's no doubt the club has been a shambles behind the scenes and things need sorting out.
9.) 10 Nov 2016 18:42:39
Nowt the matter with shaking things up
Or making a mistake here or there, like any manager not every thing Jose does will be right
But we have a good manager and squad, do see a problem myself.
10.) 10 Nov 2016 19:14:49
I understand you don't see a problem but the manager and the eds have said there are. Jose is probably better placed to know so if he says so there is problems.
11.) 10 Nov 2016 21:45:41
I think he means he doesn't see a problem with Jose sorting it all out, even if that means ruffling a few feathers? I red Jred's post as agreeing with you Ken.
12.) 10 Nov 2016 23:26:29
This stinks of organisational issues. In this business, the man accountable for short term results should not be accountable for long term strategy. The two should be seperate but aligned.
13.) 11 Nov 2016 07:50:36
MDH, could this be the reason the club are working hard searching for a director of football?
14.) 11 Nov 2016 09:47:19
Dodgy
Spot on pal, some are just looking for an argument.
29 Oct 2016 20:15:10
United lack a leader, a captain that all the players can turn too when its just not going right. Back when we had Keane you had a feeling united where coming off the pitch with a result, even if they where 1 nil down in the 85th minute you had the sense we where going to come out of the game with a 2-1 win.
Since Fergy went and the loss of Ferdinand, vidic and even evra we have not had that one player to drag the team over the line in games. Who can the players turn to in this squad? Can you imagine it being 0-0 in the 85th minute and turning your head over at Smalling? Our club captain can't even get in the team, the second longest serving player can't get a game and the German world cup winning captain is not even in the squad photo.
1.) 29 Oct 2016 20:50:24
Well we will just have to wait for one to emerge then, because you can't really buy an instant leader who will automatically have the respect of the other players.
Today's result was nothing to do with lack of leadership. Poor shooting, bad luck, some good goalkeeping and a couple of refereeing decisions combined to make the depressingly frustrating. Effort, commitment, ingenuity and creativity were all abundant. Burnly were just lucky - very lucky. It could easily have been 8-0.
2.) 29 Oct 2016 22:10:37
Who said you have to buy one? You have Carrick a champions league winner on the bench, a man that can dictate the tempo of a game and has this year, where we have won.
Sometimes all you need is a leader, someone to inspire you over the line. It's no coincidence we won more with Bruce and keane as captains.
We just drew with Burnley, who is going to pick up the lads? The manager can only do so much, but he wasnt on the pitch going through it. Our problem at the minute is we can't put a run of wins together.
3.) 29 Oct 2016 22:22:40
Carrick makes Gerrard seem interesting. He can certainly bring some composure to midfield, but we need energy. Carrick is not an inspirational leader in my opinion. There is a major lack of leaders across football, simply because "feelings" have never been more soft. You can't shout at somebody now without getting sued for bullying etc.
Until football starts to "man up" again we are going to have this problem of players being out for themselves and anybody particularly vocal/ critical being seen as bad apples. Rooney being captain of club and country sums that up, a genuine argument put forward for Rooney fans is "who else can you pick", sad really. Herrera could make a good captain on intelligence grounds, but again I can hardly see him standing up to players like Ibra or Pogba, who both need a Vidic, Keane, Schmeichel esque rollicking.
4.) 30 Oct 2016 01:14:25
so who should be captain?
how do you tell a good or bad captain from your armchair?
ive known a few good and bad but with out being part of that team i'm not sure how you can tell.
easy to look a good cap in a good team, the best captains I've seen keep a poor team working.
5.) 30 Oct 2016 01:46:18
I don't know who I would have as captain without knowing what the dynamic is in the changing room and between manager/ players - however I do know that we often lack passion, leadership and any sort of ability to change a bad plan on the pitch. Therefore whoever holds that formal role is not doing their job in my opinion.
Funnily enough it's the same story with England, there has to be a common theme here and I'm struggling to think who or what that could be?
I'd go for Herrera or Blind from what I see, but difficult to know for sure without speaking with them and seeing them in the workplace day-day.
6.) 30 Oct 2016 04:07:36
Carrick has had the 3 years since SAF retired to assert himself as the leader but has not done so. He's been an excellent player but he doesn't strike me as someone who has a dynamic personality.
If today's performance is anything to go by the team is headed in the right direction. The only think that was missing was a finish. I thought they played some of the best and most intricate football in and around the penalty area that I've seen by a United team for a very long time.
23 Oct 2016 19:15:28
How many of those players support Manchester United? There's some great talent in that squad, but they our all individual talent. If you look at our most successful period you can highlight two key factors, an established manager and six lads that supported the club from an early age, even in our successful 2008 period, three of those lads where still there.
The problem for me is there's no consistency, no core and no supporters of the club. I don't think we will ever get it back, not with football being the money driven monster it is now. Clubs are forced to act as swiftly as possible at the first sign of failure and because of this I think we our failing.
29 May 2017 12:25:40
I reckon the surprise is benzema. Madrid will get mbappe and I don't think there's huge love for benzema at Madrid.
Evra was questioning, because poor Ashley Young has been making up for his terrible defensive play. Honestly, Evra is a very lucky man, he should have been kicked out years ago. The only reason he never questioned Ferguson, was because he knew he had a cushy number. Moyes has figured him out and is getting rid of the liability.
Lets not forget he has had previous of this before with France. Whatever his presence in the dressing room, he needs to put that onto the pitch and he has not done that for 3 or 4 seasons.
As for Moyes, if he is sacked I will lose a lot of love for some of the players at United. Some of them think they our absolutely untouchable, when quite frankly a lot of them need to get a stern kick up the arse.
aaallj5
What are you going on about 'roonbest' how many flops have those teams bought? Granted we have bought flops, which has resulted in many fans whinging and blaming the manager and team around him, but we have fair less considered to are rivals, ares atleast contribute to title successes .
Barca are really restricted to one major signing a year and I can't remember one standing out: Ibra (was it one season?)
David Villa fell out with the Messiah!
Fabs by name (not so fab over there)
Dont get me started on chelsea and city, didn't city send out a whole teams worth on loan?
24 Jul 2017 18:33:43
I really like the lad, he certainly has caught my eye on this pre-season tour.
In recent years I have not seen a united youth graduate that has made me take notice, but McTominay has impressed me. He reminds me a bit more of Ander Herrera, has good vision and creativity, but willing to put a shift in and do the dog work.
The thing that really impressed me though last night was his cross for Fellaini, which the big wig absolutely fluffed. It's been a while since I've seen a united player whip a ball in like that. Maybe we do practice crossing at the club.
21 Jul 2017 12:00:12
Rudiger has quite a bit to prove, as he's never played in England. They're is countless players that have excelled for their country or in different leagues and don't cut it in the premier league, we've had a few ourselves, Jackson.
As for the morata fee, there was reports of real Madrid holding out for 80 million from united. So if Chelsea get him for a reported 58 - 70 million that's quite a difference.
Mourinho loves a whinge and an excuse, it's a very ugly quality of his. If I was Woodward I'd tell him to look within the club and the millions we spend on developing talent.
21 Jul 2017 09:10:17
Also, none of those other teams are Manchester United. I think when Manchester United come calling for a player an extra 10-15 million is added on to that player.
If we went for Chicarito right now would he cost us £13 million?
Yeah it would be nice to see players in early, but I also don't want to see the club get ripped off. Let's see how much Morata goes to Chelsea for. Granted we don't know how far we got into negotiations and we can only use the tabloids as a reference, but I should imagine you'll see a difference in price from what we where required to pay.
19 Jul 2017 11:36:20
I would much prefer Perisic, as I think he will be a big factor in whether Lukaku is successful at united.
I think we need to be getting the ball into the box more to utilise lukaku's physical presence and although he is good with his back to goal, I don't think his touch and movement is that great, so won't bring others into play that well.
Perisic will bring back the old winger mentality back to united and rather than cutting in all the time like martial, rashford or lingard, he will stay wide and look for the cross. I think he's a terrific player as well, reminds me a bit of robben.
01 Jun 2017 13:59:48
Liam Miller.