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12 Nov 2019 12:42:18
just seen a rumour that chong going to juventus on a free next year. looked decent in the u21/ u23 but not replicated that form when he's had a 1st team appearance.


1.) 12 Nov 2019 14:26:24
He looks weak and needs to play regular mens football.

2.) 12 Nov 2019 14:29:47
Both Chong and Gomes have contracts that run out in the summer.

Both have looked far too good for the reserves, but not quite ready for the first team. I feel both need loans in January, but fail to see that happening unless they sign new deals.

Tricky situation for the club. Silly that the club has allowed two of our most talented young players to get down to having 8 months left on their contracts.

3.) 12 Nov 2019 16:19:40
After they messed up with Herrera is anyone surprised.

If Chong can't get game time at United then how is he going to get it at Juventus.

4.) 12 Nov 2019 16:20:46
On Gomes, I have heard that his family are not a great influence on him. He has it in his head he should be playing. Thought I’d share this, following a conversation with a couple of folks who are keen followers of the academy. Not sure about Chong.

5.) 12 Nov 2019 16:47:27
Caolan, That's interesting to hear. I wouldn't be surprised, he has had approaches from Barcelona among others in the past.

If based on talent alone then he probably should be playing more, yet as we have seen when he has played he has struggled to really make an impact. Also physically he needs to be able to ride the tackles he will receive in the professional game. If he takes his chances he will get games, same with Chong, Greenwood, Garner and Williams.

It's tough to make the jump from under 23's to the first team, you go from being the star to just another player. Some struggle with that, Pogba did as a 17/ 18 year old. One minute you're the star of the team the next you're not even making the bench. These lads love playing, they need to learn how to channel that into making the most of their chances and fulfilling their potential.

I want all the lads to make it, but sadly that will never be the case. Tuanzebe, Rashford and McTominay will make it (by make it I mean make the most of their talent) . Of the next group of youngsters I'm fairly confident that Greenwood, Garner and Williams will make it as well. I'm not so sure on Chong and Gomes. Gomes is one of the most talented, yet I feel he will struggle to impose himself on the game until he is in his early twenties, he will need to stay on track if he is to make it. Chong I feel isn't making the most of the chances he has got. At one point he had played more than any of the other youngsters. He is the same age as Rice, Sancho, Haaland, Guendouzi, Mount and even Dalot. I think he needs a loan to get regular football.

6.) 12 Nov 2019 17:40:40
Chong will in my opinion never be good enough to be a real star. I think he will be a good squad player no more.

Gomez definitely has more ball skills and if we lose him it would be a real shame because I can see him m in three or four years time being a real star. The problem is how to give him the physicality he needs whilst managing his natural impatience and frustration at seeing other less talented players getting a first team chance. He needs to have a mature longer term view which is not something easily acquired by young footballers. Whoever is his agent or takes control of his contracts also has to really put Gomez long term interests in front of short term gain.

7.) 12 Nov 2019 23:14:22
Let's be honest if he got a hair cut you wouldn't even notice him😂.

8.) 13 Nov 2019 04:21:42
lol Ken :)

9.) 13 Nov 2019 11:49:40
I fully agree with Salford.

10.) 13 Nov 2019 14:19:51
let them both leave if there attitude is like that now at the age they are.

they have to earn there place and both have not shown anyhting when they have played.

11.) 13 Nov 2019 16:15:31
I agree with bolger. Can the ego until you've achieved something in the game.

12.) 13 Nov 2019 16:59:33
Sounds like sulking. They can see others getting game time and are throwing their toys out. If they were contributing then they would be playing more, like Williams, or Greenwood. Ole seems obsessed with youth so if they were showing him anything he would be getting them on the pitch, so they clearly aren’t doing enough.

13.) 20 Nov 2019 14:48:28
Chong and Gomes minutes this season

68’ vs Astana
20’ vs Leicester
4’ vs Newcastle
60’ vs Rotherham

68’ vs Astana
90’ vs Alkmaar
9’ vs West Ham

I fail to see how either player can really be said to have been given a proper chance to show what they can do. You can’t expect young lads to instantly replicate their form from the youth team the second they step on the pitch, otherwise write them off. Neither player has been given a proper chance and to lose either on a free will be a massive shame. Meanwhile everyone’s praying we snap up sancho for £100m who left city for the exact same reason. We’ve shown no faith in either of these two and I wouldn’t be surprised if the lack of minutes is actually due to not having their contracts sorted. They’ve both shown plenty for the reserves to have been given more game time than they have been. The fact is their contracts should’ve been wrapped up long ago, but we’re run by amateurs and now in a stand off of not playing them while their future is uncertain and them not being convinced of signing while not being shown any faith. If they both had another year on their contracts, I guarantee they’d have been playing more. We’re blatantly trying to save face in case we lose them on a free and all the people on here writing them off all of a sudden need to wake up and start holding the club accountable. If Chong and/ or Gomes go elsewhere, I’d be very surprised if we’re not linked with them again for a huge fee in a few seasons. It’s the same story over and over again. For all the supposed chances we give to youth, we seem to let plenty go elsewhere who end up being good enough, just as we seem to hang on to plenty who end up being mediocre squad players for us. Having high ambitions is a good thing, but people call it impatience. Maybe if we did everything we can to hold on to those “impatient” players instead of the “patient” ones, aka those lacking ambition and happy to sit on the bench until they’re 23/ 24 before being given a real chance, then maybe we’d have better academy graduates in our first team right now than the likes of Lingard and Pereira.




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03 Dec 2019 15:46:31
very few people in the world today could afford to buy utd its either arab oil money, russian oil money or the chinese.




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27 Nov 2019 10:22:57
rumours today that real madrid and barcelona both interested in him.




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26 Nov 2019 12:04:37
the difference is fergie was already a top manager before coming to utd after what he achieved with aberdeen in scotland and europe.




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11 Nov 2019 12:41:25
haaland i can't see joining us anytime soon, now that raiolas his agent the fee will be silly already reports of £86m and every top european club all showing interest.




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08 Oct 2019 15:17:04
you could see how bad the morale is in david de gea, s interview after sundays game.





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02 Dec 2019 15:28:11
i would be surprised if no one tries to get brendan rodgers apparently he mentioned yesterday he has an exit clause in his leicester contract.




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27 Nov 2019 16:20:35
great to see more youngsters getting a taste of first team action if you watch the u23,s but especially u18,s we have got some fantastic talent in the acedemy at the moment. an earlier post mentioned hannibal mejbri who is now showing his talent in u18,s and playing well but he's still only 16yr old.




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25 Oct 2019 11:50:02
positives from last night 3 points, garner finally getting a game and brandon williams who had a decent night and doesn't look fazed at all. other than the above it was a poor performance and we could of very easily conceded especially in the second half when romero was a busy man.




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04 Oct 2019 11:45:40
i will never call for a utd manager to be sacked but something has got to give very soon, we can't carry on with this style of football and results. i'm afraid ole has no idea what to do to stop the rot, yes we are short on quality but to continue playing the likes of mata, matic, fred, perraira and lingard hoping they will eventually come good is clueless. the midfield is our biggest problem without players who can break up play and unlock a packed defence with a pinpoint pass the forwards are going to be starved of chances especially against the better teams and fred needs checking that he isn't colour blind as he passes to the other team that much. james garner has got to be given a chance as he can't be worse than what we are seeing, only positives last night were we didn't get beat and brandon williams making his debut i thought he had a decent game and will only improve with more game time. i'm also of the same opinion that others have said if were still playing like this come january why would any of the targets we've supposidlly identified be interested in coming to us if there current teams are competing for things. horrible times at the minute and deja vu over the last 6 years as we've regressed instead of competing again and look further away from when fergie left.




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02 Oct 2019 10:14:27
hes had a great season so far and will get frustrated that our dominant midfielders pierra, fred and lingard are getting games every week. them 3 should never wear a utd shirt again they are useless.