03 Feb 2014 21:58:49
Mourinho master class in tactics and team motivation, totally brilliant and shows what a top manager can achieve. How far are we from that level!


1.) 03 Feb 2014
Chelsea are doing what we did last year. Don't look convincing, but keep picking up the points. As you say, Jose is good at this kind of thing. Still wouldn't want him at United though


2.) 03 Feb 2014
We are a mile behind these teams. Jose played them when thought he would park the bus. Superb tactics. We have to accept, we are not in this class and won't be for years. they have better players and better managers. Anyone feeling confident of beating Fulham?


3.) 03 Feb 2014
I was just going to write that Red Man,
I also think Jose will have examined Moyes for many years and his style of play and knowing he won't be able to get the best out of Utd. That will be why he has sold him Mata as he knows the style and tactics won't be a threat to him for as long as either Moyes is Utd boss (6years Mata be 31) or unless Jose leaves Chelsea


4.) 03 Feb 2014
03 Feb 2014 22:11:36
Do you guys on here not realise moyes is on the site.
He uses the name Betty swallocks.
Have you not noticed he will never criticise anything moyes does, defends wellbeck to the hilt despite everyone else knowing most clubs wouldn't swap a bag of peanuts for wellbeck.


5.) 03 Feb 2014
Easy there, Chelsea are fortunate city are missing key players just in time. Tactics or quality of players on the pitch, I guess two different schools of thought.

We are 4 or 5 players away from being there and 150 million away. Chelsea have spend 350 million in the last 3 years mate.

It's kind of like the US navy not too difficult to hump everyone when you have the tools that other don't and and can hump everyone with it:)

Great result for chelsea but city will still win the league and if chelsea get injuries they will struggle.


6.) 03 Feb 2014
Really great example of modern football from both teams. Fast, interchangeable midfield, full backs are wingers and vice versa. Lessons to be learnt.


7.) 03 Feb 2014
Red Man well said my thoughts exactly and to think in the summer Mourinho was favourite to be our next manager and we got a very poor second!


8.) 03 Feb 2014
Moyes and Mourinho are even comparable as managers. But unfortunately for us the powers that be at our club are like the old gentry and too pc correct to employ someone who has somewhat of an eccentric nature.

He wasn't British enough for Bobby and the boys too rough, brash and not polished enough to allow to take the reigns of our great club. no they had a better idea give it to a guy with no pedigree of winning but he stayed at the same club for years and never hit the headlines.


9.) 03 Feb 2014
I think one point to mull over is that in February we can see what Mourinho's plan and style is and what a thorough tactically aware mind he has, yet at the same time we have no idea what Moyes is trying to do. We have fallen a long way behind and it is deeply disappointing


10.) 03 Feb 2014
FZZ

Are you for real with the mata theory, some of the stuff on this site is like kindergarden kids posting.

They went there and got a result and as Pellegrini said (not moyes because he makes excuses :)) their injuries hurt them and chelsea have spend more money than anyone and are a strong team and no matter what mourinho tries to imply he does when he says he does not have his ideal team yet but then again which manager does.

You lot are what Fergie used to refer to when he talked about the neighbors cow. Mourinho is genius, never mind he has a team that has cost a fortune to assemble.


11.) 03 Feb 2014
He was always my choice to take over from SAF.

This club needed a force of nature to get the best out of the squad after the boss left.


12.) 03 Feb 2014
Come on now gcu, the money excuse is getting boring, you spent over 60m on two players under moyes and gone backwards. You have to spend it wisely.
And plus city have spent more than anyone in te league in the last 4 years.


13.) 03 Feb 2014
Devil Dust, Did Ed02 not say that Mourinho was always going to Chelsea last summer? Which would make it immaterial if some wanted him here or not.

No-one doubts the guys tactical ability, and powers of motivation, but I'm with AJH, I still wouldn't want him about the place.

Not because he's not British, or too brash, but because he tried to gouge a fellow professional's eye out. If he did it on the street he would have been arrested. Do you really want someone like that managing the club?

Fair enough if you do, I suppose.


14.) 03 Feb 2014
GCU
It's not how much you spend, but how wisely. Hazard chose Chelsea over United because he preferred the project. He was much cheaper than Mata. Oscar was a great buy and Willian is not doing badly either. Ramirez is another excellent Brazilian buy. So that's 3 buys better than Anderson, etc. My point is that United has not bought well (with the odd exception of RvP) for the last 4 years
Fellainin at £27M was over-priced, even on his buy-out clause.
Still sad Red Setter


15.) 03 Feb 2014
GCU however you cut it JM is a far superior manager to DM. There's no point even discussing it!


16.) 04 Feb 2014
"GCU however you cut it JM is a far superior COACH to DM." Unitedred71 - fixed that for you.

Jose is a superb motivator and tactician but he isn't a manager in the sense that Fergie was. He's ideal for a moneybags club like RM or an Oligarc one like Chelsea but do you think Adnan would be getting a start under him? No chance.

United's post war DNA was built on developing young talent whether that's from within or bought in young. From the Babes to the class of 92 that's our heritage and Jose doesn't fit. If you want to change that for the Glory hunting, your choice but I don't. Bought in we've got Adnan, Raphael, Jones, Smalling etc. Developed we've Fletcher Evans, Welbeck etc. Last Chelsea academy product to be a regular (not all down to Jose)? John Terry!

As for the tosh about spending 60 mil and gone downhill - ones only played 2 games and the other has been injured more than fit.

I don't know if Moyse will cut it but good as JM is, he wasn't right for United (and ha, ha, he cried!). My choice would have been Pep but I think he was busy elsewhere.


17.) 04 Feb 2014
We don't want Mourinho but we are happy with moyes. What planet are you on? Are you actually serious about this comment? Because it is farcical in the extreme.


18.) 04 Feb 2014
If it's my comment you're referring to, NM, I've explained the reason why I don't want Mourinho, which is a fair enough reason I think.

And I'm not overly happy with Moyes.

In fact, I don't think anyone on here is saying they're happy with Moyes.

You're just putting words in peoples' mouths.


19.) 04 Feb 2014
GBJ why is wanting the team you support to win every game and every trophy considered glory hunting? If that's the case then yes I am 100% a glory hunter and I've been a glory hunter since the mid 70's. Of course the SAF era was far more productive:-)
My choice would've been Klopp. I think he would've been great for us.


20.) 04 Feb 2014
Just look at who Chelsea had on their teamsheet and compare that to what United have and you will see the light. The "tactics" Jose employed today would never have been possible with this lot of United players.

Chelsea had midfielders who had pace and power, and could put a tackle in. We have Tom Cleverley. They had wingers who could break at pace in Hazard, Willian and have Schurrle too. We have Ashley Young, Nani, Valencia who have been poor for a number of seasons now.

Didn't Everton beat City at Goodison last season when down to 10 men? All this Jose love in I see, he is a good manager, but not the reason Chelsea won today. It was a combination of having the right players and City missing Aguero and Nasri. Would have loved to have seen what Jose's tactics did to the likes of Young, Cleverley, Valencia, Nani etc.


21.) 04 Feb 2014
He was terrible at Real Madrid and make no mistake about it. He left Milan in a mess too. He is a good manager when he gets massive financial backing to do what he wants but the brand of football they play is quite ugly to watch and not sure we would be happy as it is defend first and counter attack.

Is he better than Arsene Wenger, I don't know even thought he has not won a trophy in 8 years. Give him 300 million over 3 years and see what he can do.

Money talks baby and there are no messiah in football. For those of you who say we have spend 60 million, please make those statements after we have added 4 or 5 players and the required investment and see how all the pieces fit.

This is the same Chelsea side who 2 or 3 years ago started rebuilding a very aged squad which is what we have at the moment. It has taken them time but they were gelling last year under Benitez and winning. They put another 120 million of investment into it over the last 2 windows.

Finally, if you don't believe missing Aguero, Paulinho, Nasri against a full chelsea squad is a big deal in a tight affair make a big difference, then I guess it is all the mangers genius.


22.) 04 Feb 2014
Oops meant to write Fernandinho and not Paulinho :)


23.) 04 Feb 2014
Lots of mangers get money nobody wins as much as Jose.
Pep is rated as a top manger and rightly so but he took over probably the best team in the world at Barcelona and spent a fourtune then took over the best team in the world at Munich and spent a fortune.

Even spending money buying the right players to fit a system is an art form and Jose is great at it.
I can understand why people don't like him but to question his managerial talents is ridiculous .
He has the best cv in football and if people can't see he is one of the very best managers in the world it shows a lack of understanding or just plain biased.


24.) 04 Feb 2014
Unitedred71- wanting your team to win every match and trophy isn't glory hunting but expecting them to and slating the manager when they don't is! Footie is like the economy and the rest of life - cyclical. Remember Fergies 2nd season we finished 2nd behind L'pool, bought Sparky back for a club record fee and finished . 11th!

OK, you didn't answer whether Adnan would be playing under Jose so here's another you might not want to answer, if Moyse had gone to the Bridge and played no recognised striker for 70odd minutes how would he have been slated on here? crucified more like! Just what Jose did at OT, he's a super tactician and motivator but very pragmatic and sometimes very boring - just not for us.

Looks can be deceptive but Klopp looks like he should be at Barton Moss telling people to frack off. He's done OK but this season he'd be getting the hook on here, 13 points behind BM. But how do you know he was available? Like my 1st choice Pep he may not have been.


25.) 04 Feb 2014
Georgie, you're wasting your time. Some of the ones on here just don't allow the humdrum of the real world in.


26.) 04 Feb 2014
Redsetter

I agree 100% we have bought poorly in the last 5 years and those players have not turned out wheat everyone hoped they would.

Ed002 said if I remember correctly fergie decided not to even bid for Hazzard for whatever reason. Fellaini is a lot better than people give him credit here and should be judged when he is back fully fit.