13 Mar 2018 14:50:49
{Ed's Note - PutneyRed has posted a new article entitled, Premier League prospects over the coming years


1.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 15:15:24
So Liverpool are on the up but utd aren't as mourinho can't be trusted and we are in transition, another next year is our year picture by a Liverpool fan.

Fact is unless mourinho and Woodward completely lose their rubbish next season we will be city's biggest competitors and City won't be as good as they have been. You still don't have a keeper and you are targeting navas as your next keeper tells me all there is to know. Salah won't be as effective as now as he will be allowed much less space on the ball and he would have to prove that he isn't just a one season wonder. Even with kieta you still don't have a decent DM.

Also please don't talk about money you basically funded your cb and mf with coutinho that isn't competing with big boys or improving it is basically following the Southampton model. If Salah has a great second season you will sell him and then have to start over.


2.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 15:30:52
Putney Red

I read your post on the Liverpool the other day and thought it was refreshingly honest and not blinded by bias like a lot of your fellow Liverpool fans seem to tainted by.

However, I have to agree with CSM here that how can you argue that Liverpool are on the up and united aren’t when we are 5 points ahead of you and in 2nd while you are in 4th? We are all very far behind City but for all your attacking football you are no closer than any of the chasing pack to city. With 30 games gone this season the table doesn’t lie. We are the second best team in the league with a manager that knows how to win. Ourr football is not the style we want but our improvement from last year is huge. write us off at your peril because we will be city’s biggest challengers for the next few years. You guys have spent just as much money as we have this season so I don’t agree with the narrative that seems to be going round that we just spend whilst Klopp hasn’t. I don’t think Liverpool are as good as you guys believe you are. Claiming you have the best front three in the world is an example of the delusion.

Like I said. I thought your post the other day was very balanced but I didn’t think you were in this article.


3.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 15:46:57
Good writeup or at least somebody tried to write up.
It’s good to think your own team is in the rise and others are par or sub par. I feel it’s a good attempt but still not quite unbiased.
My only commend is the effort. Fair analysis or not I do not quite agree but yes good attempt.


4.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 15:49:18
Common_sense, I'm pretty certain you didn't actually read the article.


5.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:08:21
The majority of United fans back Jose and even the ones who show discontent, are only doing so because they want to see us play with the shackles off every now and then. Jose lives in a hotel therefore he's not going to be around is utter nonsense. He lives in an apartment at the top of a hotel. Anything he needs is a phone call away. He's hardly living in a Premier Inn sleeping head to toe with Lenny Henry!

You use Klopp as a reason why you can challenge for the league over the coming years, "the squad has problems but Klopp has a plan to rectify them".

I don't see Klopp as methodical type of manager. I said this the other day but it's very relevant, Klopp is awful and I mean awful at changing a game from the touchline. His substitutions are often wrong and nearly always too late. I can't remember ever seeing him change the shape of the team to effect the game. Take the United game for example. He could have told Van Dijk to get on Lukaku. He could have told Can to help with Lukaku. He could have told Salah to help TAA for 10 minutes. He could have instructed them to open the game up and go wide. He done none of this. The biggest stat, he's been in charge just over 2 years, he's dropped 50 points from winning positions. That's just one of the many reasons he won't win a title with liverpool.

Your ability as fans to warp the truth around you is like something from the matrix! Iv seen posts like "De Gea was a bit rubbish when he came to England so we should stick with Karius and he can be just as good"

Our survey says EH EH.

That's just one of many! Yesterday Grujic was the answer to your midfield problems.

Our survey says EH EH.

For the record, I can see City racking up 4 out of the next 5 titles, but if there's one team and manager to go up against the god of football that is pep. It's the anti christ Jose and his band of Red Devils!

I love reading all the teams pages. Keep them coming Putney! Good lad.


6.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:26:52
great response mumbles. agree on the point about jose living in the hotel. It s a fully furnished penthouse with all his cooking, ironing etc done for him. Its not as if he is having a dominos pizza every night in a premier inn as you have said. Funny how as we are winning and jose looking happy that the problems about the hotel living go away.

Liverpool can't even keep hold of their best players. Whose to say real don't come in for Salah in the next couple of years? I would not write off chelsea either who I suspect will have a new manager and they always perform well every other season. and writing spurs off as well is very naive.


7.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 16:48:47
I thought his was a pretty good assessment of things right now, pretty balanced across all teams. Good article.


8.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 17:03:57
Putney - I think that was a decent assessment to be honest.

The main problem being I think you grossly over estimate your own Club and maybe a more measured assessment may have been appropriate. Sadly it has the usual signature of "it's our year" written right through it.

I think it will be hard for anybody to match the consistency of this City team over the next few seasons.

Jose has toppled Pep before and good Mourinho's teams always have a brutal efficiency and resilience to churn out results even when playing badly.

Utd have the financial strength in order to target the best players and I expect Utd to be the biggest threat to Pep's impending dynasty over the next few seasons.

Chelsea will appoint a new manager and return invigorated next season. Whilst I expect Spurs to gradually drop away over the next few seasons (for the reasons you have mentioned) I still expect them to battle for top 4 with L'pool and Arsenal.

Great post again Mumbles a lovely blend of humour and home truths. Keep them coming pal.


9.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 17:39:51
Gents, i'm a little puzzled by your responses, I said I think Utd are improving under Mourinho and are going to only get stronger. I'm not sure why you've taken offence to that.

As for grossly overestimateing our prospects, we've matched city over the last 3 or 4 months. We're not the finished article but we're heading in the right direction.


10.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 18:19:47
Putney. I think you'll find that United is the top form team over the past 2 months.


11.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 18:34:33
Putney - I agree you've been in great form but I always get the feeling L'pool fans get carried away and blinded to the bigger picture.

Maybe I over exaggerated and I actually think your assessment of most teams was balanced and fair.

Ok I understand your optimism but I still think your well short of getting anywhere near City and like I've said with Utd's financial muscle and Mourinho's pedigree I just can't see how your feel L'pool will be better placed to challenge City.

You acknowledge that the squad has problems but don't elaborate and then appear to comfort yourself that Klopp has a plan but don't comment on what this might be or identity any evidence to back up this assertion.

Mumbles points out that Klopp has an awful record from winning positions and Klopp often fails to influence games from the bench.

Whilst your right to illustrate that Utd are improving and have the stats to back this up L'pool still face the same problems which keep resurfacing time and time again. You struggle to break down well organised defences and still have a very soft centre as recently demonstrated at OT only a few days ago. This being a game I might add that you all fully expected to win handsomely despite Utd's very impressive home record under Mourinho.

Anyway it's a game of opinions and I think you just lost your way slightly with the assessment of your own team and maybe got carried away with the euphoria surrounding the Club at the moment as I find is often the case with L'pool fans.


12.) 13 Mar 2018
13 Mar 2018 19:45:33
Good read that putney.