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12 May 2018 14:35:34
There are rumors that rui faria is leaving, Eds, other posters anyone hear anything about this?

common_sense moyes

1.) 12 May 2018 16:57:47
Posted something similar CSM. Very interesting news and potentially the shake up that Jose's back room staff needs. Apparently its not carrick taking the no. 2 role but that he will just be part of the back room staff. There was murmurs that Faria was linked to the Arsenal job but he does not seem to be on their shortlist. I think Jose needs someone to come in and bring some fresh ideas and a new approach to this team. Quite exciting if this is true.


2.) 12 May 2018 18:20:15
How about klopps number 2 if he is indeed leaving Liverpool.


3.) 12 May 2018 18:24:08
Official on the website (utd website)

{Ed004's Note - Rumours are that the U18 coach McKenna will become assistant manager}


4.) 12 May 2018 18:47:53
Its all official and all seems very amicable- he is ready for a new challenge as his own man somewhere.

I think one of the pundits hit it on the head a few weeks ago, Jose is in a time warp, what worked for him 10 years ago doesn't work now .

SAF always bought in new coaches, kept it fresh, I really hope a new man comes in not just a yes man bit someone with ideas who wants to play attacking, attractive football with wingers, attacking full backs who doesn't think a 1-0 lead at home with 20 mins to go is time to shut up shop.


5.) 12 May 2018 18:57:11
Ed004, I have watched U18 2/ 3 times, they are playing good football. I think he would be good appointment.

{Ed004's Note - That's very good to read. Hopefully that is the case next season. Hoping we push 10 yards further forward and play a more attacking style of football}


6.) 12 May 2018 19:31:18
McKenna would be a very good appointment Ed004, knows the club well, excellent job this season in the u18's, play very good football at times, supposedly did a good job at Spurs aswell. Hopefully we might see Gomes and Chong get some playing time next season (good enough=old enough lol)

{Ed004's Note - Id settle for more attacking football and more entertainment}


7.) 12 May 2018 19:57:18
Lets hope a stronger defence helps us play more attacking next season🤞🏻.


8.) 12 May 2018 22:15:06
McKenna according to rumours with Carrick as number 3.


9.) 12 May 2018 22:51:14
Do you think a different number 2 will have any input into changing Mourinhos style after all this time. Especially someone who he has not known for long, I am not sure i see mourinho taking tactical input from anyone let alone someone who relatively barely knows.


10.) 13 May 2018 08:42:11
Anyone know who's going to be number 4?


11.) 13 May 2018 11:11:40
MancMan. I heard Fellaini.


12.) 14 May 2018 10:12:44
"Speaking after the win over Watford, Mourinho said he would not have an assistant next season as "nobody in the world of football is ready".

"I think it will be Michael Carrick in future, when he has his badges, " he said. "When he has his pro licence, when he makes the bridge from player to assistant.

"I got to Michael in the last part of his career and it was enough to fall in love with the player and person. ""

Hope this isn't true, a Mourinho dictatorship is the last thing we need.


13.) 15 May 2018 03:20:01
I for 1 am hopeful that Carrick grows into this job. By all accounts the players look up to him, respect him as a leader (as they should) . He understands this team, understands the players, understands and loves United. He has a lot of potential. We just need to see if he has the appetite and aptitude now. I really hope so.


 

 

11 Jan 2018 12:43:41
So redman, Glazers have granted you your wish. it seems we have contacted Arsenal for Sanchez - happy now?

common_sense moyes

1.) 11 Jan 2018 14:20:37
Has all the hallmarks of a Sanchez Snubs MUFC for MCFC headline for the papers.

Quickly followed by a load of think pieces/ columns about how this is another signal that man city are racing ahead of united in every conceivable area.


2.) 11 Jan 2018 14:24:48
DSG,

Thought exactly the same mate, no excitement on this one from me unfortunately.


3.) 11 Jan 2018 14:49:53
I was wondering all the time. why we aren't in for him. than I said myself that may be he isn't get in well with Jose from Barcelona time. but if someone need him more than its us. he is deadly and very smart in final third. and works really hard for the team. I will take him on wings any day. anytime.
But even I guess he looks city bound.


4.) 11 Jan 2018 15:59:03
I'm sure I remember one of the Ed's saying he left Barcelona because of Messi.


5.) 11 Jan 2018 16:00:00
If it's agent spreading bs woody needs to do a briefing like he did when atletico ban news came before any agreement with city but if it is true I think we have a good chance of signing him, only thing city guarantee that we don't is a pl medal this season something we can clearly convince him to forego. We if actually go through with our rebuild well we should win a pl title in next 2 seasons and we would offer him guaranteed starting spot unlike city.


6.) 11 Jan 2018 16:48:21
I agree csm and he is the exact sort of player who should be wearing our number 7 shirt.


7.) 11 Jan 2018 16:48:59
I'm pretty sure when he went to Barcelona the papers were awash with either him or his dad being a United fan.


8.) 11 Jan 2018 17:12:40
I'm sure if we are showing an interest then there will be a level of reciprocal feeling from the player .

I'm not really sure why everyone is so certain he will end up at city.

If we got him it would be a great signing and likewise for city but I'm sure we are still an attractive proposition to any player.


9.) 11 Jan 2018 18:51:33
I think the funniest part of this story is a few papers adding liverpool to this saga imagine the options sanchez has, want a pl medal this season and lots of money pick city, want a chance at pl medal in future seasons and even more money pick utd, you want neither trophies nor money, well you know what is left on the table.


10.) 11 Jan 2018 20:46:58
CSM

It wasn’t actually Sanchez in particular, I was pointing out that we need to recruit at the top level, especially if our opposition are doing that. Sanchez is a top level player and if there is a deal for him then it could be good. We shall see if the manager thinks there is a fit in our team and more important if this is a real opportunity. We shall see.


11.) 12 Jan 2018 12:43:53
We have done that especially since Mou has signed up redman, matic, pogba, lukaku, failed attempt to get griezmann and there seems to be interest in signing dybala these are all top level talents we are trying to or have signed.


 

 

02 Jan 2018 10:29:06
Great performance yesterday, mourinho at last seems to have understood playing 3 in the middle is the way to go to get best out of pogba. But we need new fb's, lindelof isn't a fb and both young and Valencia are on the wrong side of 30, while shaw has a long way to go to be first choice.

A carrick replacement and may be Alex Sandro will get us a comfortable top 2-3 finish and hopefully a fa cup.

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24 Aug 2017 14:16:26
Zlatan has signed a 1 year contract with is, seems like he will be back much before expected.

common_sense moyes

1.) 24 Aug 2017 14:28:26
Cue the meltdown.

Good signing for me as long as he is happy to be a backup / rotation, and I love the Zlatan song, glad we have another year of it.


2.) 24 Aug 2017 14:37:23
I agree as long as he isn't starting every game it can only be good for the squad and will also help to keep lukaku on his toes.


3.) 24 Aug 2017 14:38:36
I agree GDS, as long as he is happy being 2nd choice behind Lukaku then we are fine.

Obviously having Rashford or Martial getting more time through the middle is good and beneficial for them but ultimately Jose doesn't play strikers like them as his number 9. It's always a target man so it's unlikely that even if we have good cup runs they would have got a huge amount of game time there. It took Zlatan to do his knee before either were played there with any consistency last season. Really hope to see them given a lot of game time on the left or right.


4.) 24 Aug 2017 15:43:56
Doubt anybody has a problem with him signing again. The problem will come when/ if reputation trumps performance.

Shrewd move and remember me and a few others getting slammed for suggesting this may well happen at the end of last season.


5.) 24 Aug 2017 16:09:32
Lol it's a good move as long as he does x y or z .
What if he doesn't do what you want tho?

If fit ibra starts we saw that last season.


6.) 24 Aug 2017 16:16:48
Poor move. Step backwards to our better style seen this year.


7.) 24 Aug 2017 16:36:12
Jred - I think it's fair to add caveats to saying it's a good move.

Good move so long as he is treated as an equal and judged solely on what he does on the pitch/ training ground, not what the media, agents, reputation and Zlatan's own ego demand.

If he is afforded preferential treatment then it's an awful move.


8.) 24 Aug 2017 16:48:56
Great move 😂😂😂😂😂.


9.) 24 Aug 2017 17:03:13
I just hope he is not our supposed 4 th signing. Or our other forwards don't fall out of favour to get zlatan in the team. But if scores goals like he did before his injury it can only be a good thing.


10.) 24 Aug 2017 17:06:26
Beast,

Fully agree, and as we have just signed a 90m striker I imagine the striker we have signed on a free who has taken a pay cut will understand his role in the team has changed somewhat from last season.

I know stand has made his mind up but none of us know how he will play, all I do know is that lukaku can't play 65 games this season and if we hadn't won the first 2 games 4-0 nobody would be complaining as much.


11.) 24 Aug 2017 19:15:27
But we have won the first 2 games 4.0 and looked very good doing it.


12.) 24 Aug 2017 23:01:45
Gds I promise had we drew our first two games I would feel the same. I like Zlatan, I'll support him and sing his song, I just feel he is detrimental to the way we attack and would rather see Rashford or Martial down the middle when Lukaku isn't playing.


13.) 24 Aug 2017 23:37:01
Jred,

I agree, that's my point, but we played West Ham and Swansea, I'm not getting carried away just yet but I know things are looking better.

Can't argue with your opinion stand, I respect it but don't fully agree with it as long as he isn't first choice. As a back up striker he will be fine. Imagine 2 years ago turning your nose up at our club signing zlatan ibrahimovic. The other players all seem to love him, what he does behind the scenes might not ever be quantified, but I am sure we can agree he has a positive effect.


14.) 25 Aug 2017 10:47:39
Good move. Our new number 10.


15.) 26 Aug 2017 03:01:45
Three at the back which he as already tried out and said wanted to play may suit use lukaku and ibra at top mykie behind pogba matic cm with 3 at back and shaw and toni wb would be class.


 

 

03 Aug 2017 16:24:38
Marca saying if mbappe is to arrive bale must leave, i really hope we are trying to get him.

common_sense moyes

1.) 03 Aug 2017 16:40:38
I would only want us to consider Bale if he was less than 50m. His injuries mean he would be far too much of a risk for more than that.


2.) 03 Aug 2017 17:32:36
Swansea want near about 50 million for Sigurdsson, you seriously believe we would get Bale at 50m in this inflated market?


3.) 03 Aug 2017 17:46:15
Shappy 50m 😂😂😂😂 he will sell for 80 to 90m i guess. i'd love him at united. Last season he only played 27 games he played over 40 for the previous 4 seasons so he is not a sick nite by any means. If we can sign him we should and he would be a great signing.


4.) 03 Aug 2017 17:55:58
One of the ed's has previously mentioned that there could be issues in his medicals.


5.) 03 Aug 2017 18:13:12
It would be a massive gamble given the fee they would want.


If his ankles are no longer made from weetabix I would take bale all day long.


6.) 03 Aug 2017 19:17:29
He's 28, and his game is based on pace. He has muscle and ankle issues. Even as a 21 year old in the EPL he used to have to wear strapping to stop him damaging his muscles. He has 2-3 years left at the top, how much of that he can stay fit for is the real question.

Bare in mind his wages will be in the region of 15m a year. On a four year deal that's another 60m in wages at least. Plus agents fees and the like the whole deal if we got him for 50m would likely cost us around 120-140m. For a player who will likely play 25-30 games a year at best over the next four years, while declining and many of those games he will be working himself back to fitness and form.

If we have to pay 90m then the cost of signing him will be closer to 200m. That's just madness for a player who's best days are behind him.

We got our fingers burned with Hargreaves. Let's not keep signing crocks. Especially ones for 90m.


7.) 03 Aug 2017 19:32:17
Again, costs are indifferent to me. I'm only really worried about signing a player that significantly helps us.

Undoubtedly on his day a pure world beater. But there have been many issues regarding his injuries and I believe one of the Eds have gone into more detail on that.

I just don't believe he will stay healthy.


8.) 03 Aug 2017 20:28:33
I'm with Shappy, it's a no from me. If he was as injury free as Ronaldo it would be a yes, but he isn't and would be a huge gamble at his age and with the way injuries have been going of late.


9.) 03 Aug 2017 20:54:01
For me I'd love Bale to sign. Like said before the previous three seasons he played 40 games + a season. Not to mention smashing goals in for fun. When he plays he's a game changer the likes we haven't got and I really don't see anyone else of that caliber who is available. Plus whether some of the fans want him or not he's the forward signing Woodwood has been dreaming since taking over. So I think if United think he's available Woodward will be off to Madrid to piggy back him back to OT so he doesn't go lame again falling off the plane.


10.) 04 Aug 2017 08:25:54
Dip

But according to reports (take them with truckloads of salt), Real want to part ways with Bale but Swansea know their future in PL is in the dark if Sigurdson leaves and want to thus hold onto him if possible so their values can't be compared. Also Siggy was fit for most of last season Bale not really and McGregor one said "you're only as good as yourthe last outing".


11.) 04 Aug 2017 09:52:39
Shappy I tend to agree with most of what you say especially regarding the injuries and his game being based around pace but surely a fit and in form Bale would transform us into major contenders for both domestic and European honours. I agree given the figures involved it would be a financial gamble for the Club but players of Bale's calibre don't come on the market that often and if we seriously want to get back competing at an elite level then it's a gamble worth taking in my opinion.


12.) 04 Aug 2017 10:22:58
Are people SERIOUSLY suggesting they wouldn't want to have Gareth Bale in our team because of prevous injuries and finance? Get a life.
He's one of the top 10 players in the world. In the time Perisic has played 152 games, Bale has played 150!

Bale will tear up every defence in the prem and will bring back the 'edge of the seat' excitement we've missed for years. If he can play in 30 games a season of our 60 then brilliant sign him up. JM will play him in the best 30 games.

As for the money, it's not like we can't afford him is it? If anything it'll attract more sponsorship and allow us to demand more money from existing sponsors on renewal.

Shappy you usually speak sense but bore off on this one you're wrong :)
Don't sign Bale, in what world would you not?


13.) 04 Aug 2017 12:11:35
Spot on shappy.


14.) 04 Aug 2017 12:46:00
Its a no from me as well. Wasn't there a report other day that he'd injured his Achilles?


15.) 04 Aug 2017 17:44:23
i can't see it happening this season but I don't see the harm with Bale in our team whether we sign him for £50m or £100m. if it was my own money it would be a different story. Jose continuously spoke about the influence Zlatan had on Rashford, Martial etc would Bale not be a similar influence to a player like Luke Shaw, Demetri Mitchell?


16.) 04 Aug 2017 23:04:22
Funny that angel you didn't say that the other week when i said what Dier will cost is relevant to todays market!


17.) 06 Aug 2017 13:06:31
Agree withs Shappy.

Ken check out the minutes in his last 2 seasons and 40 games is deceiving as he was being subbed in in many games with 15 to 20 minutes to go or subbed out in many that he was starting.

His game is suited for La Liga and Madrid more than the vigour of epl. Ronaldo and him hardly do any tracking back and are there to run in acres of space on the counter and the frankly the competition is La Liga outside the top 5 is quite poor and its mostly a question of how many goals the top teams can score.

He is very injury prone and will break down in the epl.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2018 17:59:12
Found this on the internet, how lovely would it be if history repeated itself.

The last time United signed a Portuguese and a Brazilian player in one window, it was on the back of a season where we lost the FA Cup Final 1-0 to Chelsea at Wembley and Liverpool reached and lost the Champions League final. The following season we won the Champions League and the Premier League.

common_sense moyes

1.) 06 Jun 2018 18:13:09
You just jinxed it.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 18:57:04
No way! that's a brill little history lesson. i really hope so.


3.) 06 Jun 2018 19:07:01
One of the lines/ quotes I like is "History repeats itself".
Let's see if this turns out true or not.


4.) 06 Jun 2018 20:42:25
Hope it comes true. I habe a feeling we will wint the league this year but i ger this feeling every year. Hahahah.


5.) 07 Jun 2018 09:21:43
Hope history doesn't repeat itself, last thing we need is for Fred and Dalot to be the new Anderson and Nani.


6.) 07 Jun 2018 09:28:22
Anderson when he first came was very good, gerrard was out played by him many a game and Nani was a lot better than any winger we have now.


7.) 07 Jun 2018 09:56:01
Who cares?
I would happily write off the two transfer fees in exchange for the treble!
We will need Fred to perform though to give us a chance of that though. Unless we sign Milinkovic Savic on top, then Fred might flop and we might still be better then last season.


 

 

05 May 2018 15:41:11
The grumpy one seems to be really setting himself up for the 3rd season. Martial, Rashford, Pogba, shaw, our defense, man utd as a club, I think we are now running out of people and things that mourinho can blame for a defeat. If he doesn't change his attitude we are going to see a repeat of the Chelsea meltdown as players just stop caring and turn on him.

common_sense moyes

1.) 05 May 2018 17:35:57
Should the club bite the bullet and give mourinho the chop at the end of the season?


2.) 05 May 2018 17:49:15
Players too should change their attitude, not only Mourinho.


3.) 05 May 2018 18:40:33
We have stunk the place out since Fergie left. From top to bottom nobody is blameless. Personally don’t think Mourinho is the right man for the club. You could get rid of every player bar De Gea and I wouldn’t be bothered. There not fit to wear the famous red shirt. What we have spent on dross is criminal.


4.) 05 May 2018 19:11:19
Andy players are equally responsible but the big games where they have been allowed to play show that they aren't completely useless. You cannot call your players sh*t every time you lose taking no personal responsibility, and then wonder why they turn on you once things go south.

Take yesterday he says Brighton performance was the reason why lukaku always starts over rashford and martial, small problem with that logic is that lukaku started in our last defeat before Brighton against westbrom and lukaku's performance was similarly poor.

We right now have nothing to play for excellence for fa cup. Normally when there is nothing to gain most people don't perform at the level expected, be it football or any other sport. Just move on, no need to throw players under the bus for that but moanrinho can't help himself.


5.) 05 May 2018 19:32:49
But the favourite too lost to a bottom club today. Now who do we get after sacking Jose. Tough question.


 

 

03 May 2018 06:42:14
Just read fellaini's comments about the contract negotiations, who does he think he is. You are Marouane Fellaini not Lionel Messi, only mistake the club made was to sign you in the first place.

common_sense moyes

1.) 03 May 2018 07:17:17
Exactly. Get rid.


2.) 03 May 2018 07:20:44
Agree csm.


3.) 03 May 2018 07:47:58
He’s looking after himself BD his family and pushing for the best deal financially at 30 when he has limited years left. Not sure what’s wrong with that?


4.) 03 May 2018 08:09:50
Should we not back the manager?
Jose type player.


5.) 03 May 2018 09:44:04
So much hate for Fellaini. How obscene are Pogba's wages? Sanchez wages? have they set the world alight? Not really but hey, let's pull the wig down instead.


6.) 03 May 2018 09:58:41
I'd say get rid too. showing no respect to the club with the comments. And he thinks he's a 50 mill player, probably wants about 250,000 a week 5 year contract too. Jog on to China mate.


7.) 03 May 2018 12:28:27
What he wants isn't the problem herbie, his comments to media are. His comments indicate he thinks he is some really important player, he isn't. He thinks we need to spend 50mn to replace someone like him, he isn't. Any academy kid has more actual footballing skills than that belgian mophead.


8.) 03 May 2018 13:50:30
I love how some people have on Fellaini and say he isn't "United Standard" even though he is clearly one of Jose's favourites. Plays all the big games if fit.

Yet they try and justify the potential sale of Martial based on him "not being a Jose type player".

How can you be happy to sell a player who isn't a Jose type player but not want to keep one who clearly is a Jose type player.

I think it just comes down to personal preference and people scrambling around to find justification for it.

They don't like Martial because in their opinion they don't think he works hard enough and he doesn't smile enough.

They don't like Fellaini because they think he is a thug and not suited to United's style.

However, Roy Keane was a different sort of thing so he is United through and through and a legend.

And yes Ronaldo only smiled if he scored and hardly ever tracked back. But that's completely different to Martial not smiling or tracking back.

Hypocrisy is all around us.


9.) 03 May 2018 16:21:25
Like it shappy.


10.) 03 May 2018 17:22:48
When you compare Ronaldo with Martial says it all.

Deep down all of you know Fellaini isn't a first team starter but he should be kept as a squad player if Mourinho likes him so much but i reckon he wants a long term contract and big salary that is what's holding him back from signing an extention.


11.) 03 May 2018 17:36:10
And double standards shappy.


12.) 03 May 2018 18:35:30
I actually think martial does track back Shappy. Often see him in the lb area and does track his full back quite well. I think his lack of movement of the ball when we have it is the area of his game that let's him down.
His dribbling is better than most players around. His finishing is good normally. But i know it sounds silly but he doesn't miss enough chances simply because he doesn't make enough movement to get more chances. He is static too often when he receives the ball.
He isn't busting a gut to make a difference often enough imo.
He needs games to improve. That's why I wanted to loan him out this season. I think he would have come back closer to the finished article than he is now.
He is not for sale as far as i know he has been offered a new contract. If he moves it won't be for more money is imagine. It will be because he wants to go. If he stays it will be because he wants to fight for his place. He won't be pushed out the door he will only leave if he wants to.


 

 

29 Apr 2018 00:48:46
So Ashley Young makes an ill timed tackle the media jump over each other to prove who can cover it more but Salah throws a punch no one cares.

common_sense moyes

1.) 29 Apr 2018 14:59:13
Totally agree CSM. i spotted it straight away and rewound to show others, then surprise surprise not even mentioned on BT or match of the day. It was looked at on goals on Sunday on sky, because someone tweeted in about it, but it was just brushed off with comments of he's just reacting to being fouled, and he didn't connect so there is nothing in it. I can only imagine the different responses if it was other players, not the media darling. he's a great player but you can't do that and he should suffer the same as any player.


2.) 29 Apr 2018 17:40:51
Who did Salah punch?


 

 

16 Mar 2018 14:09:08
Watching mourinho's press conference only reaction I can muster is wow, it seems he really wants us to hate him.

common_sense moyes

1.) 16 Mar 2018 14:38:42
He’s reeled off our poor league and CL form since SAF, doing a Rafa and staying FACTS. Think he means to say fans go on about heritage but our recent heritage sucks, apart from our Europa league win and improvement in league position both under him.


2.) 16 Mar 2018 14:49:54
Wrd he can rattle off as many stats and facts he wants the only fact that matters is Sevilla an average team which is going to get smashed by bayern thoroughly outplayed us over 180 mins.

The reporters are idiots, when he was going on about heritage someone should have asked him what his excuse was for being outplayed by a team that cost less than pogba and lukaku combined or was it moyes, lvg and fergie's fault?


3.) 16 Mar 2018 14:50:36
He has hit the nail on the head. It is exactly what a lot of us have been saying .

He has taken over a really crap defense. A very old and disjointed midfield and a very young attack .

Compare that to Man City where Guardiola has taken over the likes of De bruyne, Silva, Aguero and Kompany who know how to play in big games and win titles and he has just built on those foundations to take the team forward with the signings he has made.

{Ed004's Note - I am not defending his team selection and tactics midweek at all. But no one was on here criticising the exact same selection of tactics and formation we played vs Chelsea and Liverpool so I can see why he played it again. Pep had foundations to work with and has spent considerably more than Jose. Now we have our foundations we need to catch up with Pep.
We have some excellent players in our squad going forward now in De Gea, Bailly, Matic, Pogba, Sanchez, Martial and Lukaku (who I must say has completely won me over recently - Even my lpool supporting mates couldn't believe how much his hold up has improved) and some excellent squad players to have as cover next season with Romero, Valencia, Smalling, Rojo, Shaw (hopefully pre season gets him in shape), Herrera, McTominay, Radford, Mata and Lingard. I guess Jose should know to expect this managing the biggest club in the world. No other manager in the world would come under this much scrutiny sitting 2nd and still in the FA Cup.}


4.) 16 Mar 2018 15:07:19
Top top reply Ed and agree with Lukaku, he was someone i thought wasnt goos technically and looked like a boxer, but he has improved so much in terms of hold up play and that is all down to his hard work.

We have a great spine to work from next year and just need to upgrade a few positions to really challenge next year.

Scrutiny will come because a lot of fans hate us for one reason or another and likely so because of how much we have won in the past.

But they are fans and they will act like fans so Jose is just deflecting all the negativity and stated all the facts today why United are in the position they are today and where they are heading.

I wouldn't really complain if we won the fa cup this year and finish second, that would have us with 4 trophies in two years under this diajointed Jose team.

{Ed004's Note - Agreed 100%}


5.) 16 Mar 2018 15:10:44
Ed004 his defense works if he is defending why he is behind city, not when he is defending why he got thoroughly owned by Sevilla or is he saying we are so rubbish that we can't be expected to beat a team that has gotten 5 put past them 5 times this season.

{Ed004's Note - His defence works because what he is saying is true. We are currently in a transitional period, he inherited a weaker side than Pep and traditionally we have been poor in Europe. Even under Fergie we were relatively poor only winning it twice with both being a bit fortunate. Can anyone say that if Jose left tomorrow he would be leaving us worse off than when we he got us? Or that we haven't improved since he joined.
And before someone fires the he's spent a lot of money line, that money was available to Moyes and LVG was not afraid to spend either. In fact if you took the time value of money into equation LVG spent a very considerable amount. Di Maria for 60 mill back then would have been a whole lot more now etc. Pep inherited KDB a 50 odd million signing how much would he cost nowadays to sign? Certainly a fee exceeding Pogbas}


6.) 16 Mar 2018 15:22:30
ed he changed it from the Liverpool game. fellani and matic in the middle
Changed rashford around, should have played Mata.
Pogba on the bench as bad as he is lately he could have done something.
Fellani was out for weeks and he started him.

{Ed004's Note - So he made two changes to starting 11 but played near enough exact same style of play. Only really significant change was Rashford on the right}


7.) 16 Mar 2018 15:36:44
CSM as much as I think Jose isn’t the right man to take us forward he was spot on with what he was saying. We may be one of the biggest clubs in the world in stature, but we have been a very poor team on the pitch since sir alex left. Since 2011/ 12 we have hardly had any champions league football. And when we have we have been utterly pathetic. A lot of our players don’t have the mentality of the old United because there is nobody left from sir alex’s Era apart from De Gea, Valencia, smalling, Jones and young. I don’t count Carrick as he has hardly played. Of the ones I have mentioned, only De Gea is worthy of being in the first team. As fans we expect to be challenging for top honours but at the moment we are living of our reputation under sir alex rather than the reality that we have been a mediocre top 4 challenger. So yes we expect the best but Jose inherited a very poor squad in comparison to pep, so the playing fields have not been level. However, it is clear that pep is a better manager and he style Jose is trying to play is unacceptable. Whilst I do not think Jose will win is the league, I do agree that in comparison to recent times, we are doing much better and in fact he has done the best since sir alex left. But let’s be honest that’s not difficult after the last two distastrous appointments before him.


8.) 16 Mar 2018 15:40:28
Totally agree ED. All the usual moaners who were quiet whilst we were producing excellent results are screaming louder than ever because we lost a game. Yes it was a big game but we are so much better than we have been since Fergie left.

This is the BEST team we have had since he retired and we are on course to finish in our highest position in that same time period!

{Ed004's Note - And hopefully by the end of the summer he has a squad that he is ready to mount a challenge with - which I fully expect him to do. There's only one question mark out of his 8 signings so far for me and that's Lindelof (Not counting Zlatan due to injury and him being the best available at that time).}


9.) 16 Mar 2018 15:43:57
Actually Ed I think I said there wasn't much difference between the home game against L'pool in which we won and the away game which everybody likes to point out as the epitome of anti football other than Lukaku was able to hold the ball better and we were clinical. Anyway i'm not saying I'm right only I don't think the tactics were that much different between the two games.

I've said on numerous occasions that the result is all that matters to me but accept that once results suffer there is no hiding place with that brand of football and it becomes hard to defend.

He was allowed to rant but why didn't anybody ask him why he selected a half fit Fellaini or switch Rashford to the right hand side where I don't think anybody has ever seen him play a good game. Why was Mata benched?

It's easy to identify our lousy form since Fergi retired. Moyes and LVG were useless and rightly lost their jobs and we we're all just as furious with some embarrassing abject performances when they were in charge.

The performance against Sevilla had nothing to do with our recent 'heritage' and everything to do with cowardly and insipid tactics.

Once again everybody is talking about Jose or busy researching our history so he doesn't have to answer difficult questions about his tactics or a perceived lack of intensity and desire shown by the players.

I suppose it's another Jose masterclass is some respects.


10.) 16 Mar 2018 15:45:05
Again ed004, guardiola and city don't come into this. He wasn't beaten by guardiola or any other big club in europe he was beaten by sevilla, a team that hasn't spent anywhere near he has spent.

He will leave us better than he found us, i donot disagree with that. But give guardiola/ pochettino/ klopp 300mn they will leave us better than they found us. He wants to spend atleast 200 may be 250mn more, that would take his eventual spending to 500-550mn.

Yet when we face city/ liverpool/ chelsea/ tottenham or any other half decent side he will park the bus and play stoke city football. Give any of the above mentioned managers 500mn they will improve the team win the same trophies mourinho will win and play good football to the boot. There will always be games where he doesn't want to lose and draw is his only motive, like it was when we went to liverpool or away to sevilla.


A friend of mine recently gave me a book, its called "What Got You Here Won't Get You There" we are facing the same situation with mourinho, he was good to get us through the post lvg phase, get us into top 4 and likely keep us there but if we want to win the league and be in a fight every season for the league we need a better manager.

{Ed004's Note - I can't see what better manager there is out there that's going to garuntee us trophies not with Peps current City side and unlimited budget being around as well. I'm also going to note one factor that hasn't really be noted so far. Other than Alderwereild have any of the other top 6 sides lost a key player that the team is built around for long periods of time? Because Jose has had to deal with long term injuries to both Pogba and Bailly both of which were fundamental to our fantastic start to the season where we played great football. Jose has then had to rely on players like Lingard, Fellaini, Smalling, Jones etc that supporters on here are quick enough to note aren't good enough for us.

I've mentioned multiple times that I won't defend what happened on Tuesday as it was cowardly and awful from us. It was almost as if the occasion got to us and maybe that's down to the players lack of experience or poor managerial instructions I'm not sure. I just don't get this recent wave of 'let's go sack another manager' when he has blatantly improved us and when he does leave, will leave us in a far better position. Also the money reason that keeps coming up. Has Conte improved that Chelsea side after spending 100+ million on Bakayoko and Morata or did LvG leave us better off after spending a fortune, atleast the majority of Jose signings have worked out well. Could the likes of Moyes have been able to get Bailly ahead of Pep, Pogba ahead of Madrid, Sanchez, Zlatan, Matic etc who all came for Jose}


11.) 16 Mar 2018 16:09:33
I think somebody explained to Jose just how he sounded after the game on Tuesday .
It's a valid point city had better players than utd when he arrived but what he neglected to mention was he picked smalling who was already there over a CB he payed tens of millions for and he played Fellini who was already there over the guy he payed a world record fee for in the same position . It's ok to point out players he inherited aren't as good as cities but then select them over the players he has actually bought himself .

{Ed004's Note - Lindelof is currently adjusting to the league, similar to Bernardo Silva (50 mill) who isn't getting in that City first 11 side. Additionally, Smalling was the only other option due to injuries to Rojo and Jones. Pogba I don't understand unless he wasn't fully fit}


12.) 16 Mar 2018 16:10:25
Bang on 004.


13.) 16 Mar 2018 16:16:07
Fantastic post Ed I'm annoyed as well but I fully agree with you. I think we might be in the minority though.

{Ed004's Note - I was annoyed as hell on Tuesday. Completely ruined my night and I can't even remember if I posted on here or if I had the whit to wait until my emotions died down or not. I just, for the first time since Ferguson left, see us on a gradual improvement and don't think sacking a manager will help us in anyway}


14.) 16 Mar 2018 16:18:26
That’s a great response above ed can’t argue with any of that. But with the players at our disposal there is not excuse to be parking the bus against top sides. I think that’s the grievance we all have. But I suppose we knew what we were in for when we hired Jose. And he most probably won’t change. If he doesn’t then by this time next year it will be very very toxic. If PSG did come in for him maybe it wouldn’t be the worst thing to happen. It’s important now for Jose to settle on a formation and team selection. He needs to find a way to fit pogba in the same side as Sanchez. He needs to keep bailly fit and partner him with lindelof as there is potential there. Mata needs to be one of the first names on the team sheet at right wing as he is the only player win composure on the ball i'm the final third. We are a poorer side when he is not in. I would move Sanchez centrally as a second striker off Lukaku and play him into form, not on the left at the expense of martial and rashford. I would then play shaw over young and give him the time to make the position his own till the summer, then upgrade him. These are small changes that would improve us massively. And finally, I would get the team playing ten yards further up the pitch so that when pogba picks he ball up it’s not inside our own half. Let’s start playing properly and giving teams problems instead of giving them the initiative. Let’s be realistic, Jose won’t be sacked in the summer so we have to support the team and invest properly in the summer. The foundations are there but Jose is not utilising it at all.

{Ed004's Note - That's near enough exactly what I think we should do. I'm torn between whether we should go 4231 and play Sanchez central to get the best out of him or play 433 with Pogba on the left side and get the best out of him. I think both players are stepping on each other's toes currently. Think Valencia needs rested for Young alongside Lindelof/Rojo beside Bailly and Shaw on the left. Nothing left to lose so hopefully we play attacking and aggressive football. Think that's the best way for Jose to win back a large amount of the fans he's lost}


15.) 16 Mar 2018 16:28:44
Ye need to make a feature to agree with the Ed’s, great reply ed004.

{Ed004's Note - Thank you}


16.) 16 Mar 2018 16:32:40
It's funny how other teams don't seem to give time to under-performers. I'm pretty sure Koeman took over an ageing defence and was waiting for signings to click for example, he was rightfully sacked as the signs were not good.

If we had been decisive with LVG (Christmas time 2nd season) we would have probably qualified for the CL that season rather than the waste of space Europa League. Had we been decisive this Christmas rather than handing Jose an extension (WTF) then we'd still be in the CL, simply telling our far superior players to just do what they do naturally would be enough to beat Sevilla easily.

There have been countless managers that have been hired and fired in the same period that Jose has been in charge. They didn't have hundreds of million to spend, a squad of top quality players to take over and immense support infrastructure. We have forgotten how to be ruthless and that complacency spreads throughout the team - the only team less appealing on the eye in the EPL is WBA and that is saying something.

Does anybody see a Jose team doing any different, he could have £1 billion to spend and we would be served the same rubbish, sure we'd pick up results, but when it matters we would fail, CL and League, nowhere near winning either of them. Our two supposed world class stars (Pogba/ Sanchez) look half the players they are consistently, the only ones that look half decent are not real gamechangers because they do precisely what the manager asks of them - he wants big robots. 1 good game counts for 5 bad games, it should be the other way around.

I'm sorry but Jose has had more than enough opportunities, we do not look like we are progressing compared to our direct rivals - despite the money and time being afforded. He has to go for the good of the club, players and the fans sanity!


17.) 16 Mar 2018 16:36:44
Are we guaranteed a trophy this year?
Should probably be doing better with the squad we have .
Lukaku been a good signing thank God we never signed moratta.

Jose doing what he does and what he wants .
People can post all they want Jose should do this or that .
But he will do it his way . The way he has done it all season that's his style not sure why people are kidding themselves.


18.) 16 Mar 2018 16:43:17
Ed004 its not about let's go sack another manager, mourinho long term is not a utd manager. His last stint at chelsea he tried playing decent football at times but once Tottenham smashed them he went in his shell like he always does, say next season he spends big money gets the side he wants but the moment things get tough he will go back to doing what he knows best and that is not the utd way.

We have a chance right now, get pochettino or jardim in summer and let them tweak the side they want as they will get a season to get their bearing with the side rather than wait for mourinho to implode which he will and then get someone who will be racing against time as the adidas top 4 clause will kick the season we aren't in CL, we can already see the signs with his constant targeting of the fans, pogba's recent performances.

You talk about injuries, guardiola has had no lb for the entire season, he seems to have managed pretty well hasn't he.

My biggest gripe with mourinho is he seems to value results over everything else. So why is it that when he gets criticized for not getting the perfect results he can't take the criticism, if your football is based only on results then your job review should also be based on the same. Last season he would have been sacked but for the Europa League, this season he has us in top 4 but after 300mn spent 16 points behind the leaders and a possible FA cup is not good enough especially when the football is so dire to watch.

{Ed004's Note - So being without Mendy is similar to having no Pogba or Bailly. Also Danilo as 30 mill pound cover isn't bad for a full back slot. Fergie also valued results over anything else in his last few seasons here. Forget how many games he ground out a win and it was classed as premiership winning experience. I just see no sense in sacking Jose who is on course to win 83/84 points (in a normal season that league winning form) because we dropped out of the champions league.}


19.) 16 Mar 2018 16:44:17
Martial Sanchez lukaku pogba matic Mata etc etc .
4 shots in 180 minutes minutes of football against Seville.
And it's the defence

Lindelof?
Bailly played young been playing well and ddg is the best gk in the world .

People talk about fellaini, Jose raves about him he has played 75 minutes of football since November. But straight back in to the starting 11 ahead of pogba and mc Tom.
Jose type player fellaini.


20.) 16 Mar 2018 16:47:21
Do you think he should be sacked jred. I dont.
Id like to give him the summer window for the board to back him and if we are as far behind next xmas as we are now then ill re consider my thoughts.


21.) 16 Mar 2018 16:50:26
Some of you are like the weather! After Chelsea and Liverpool the "Old Mourinho " was back. He's smiling again etc. One awful display and it's "get rid! " We are second. We would never had won the CL. We are 2- 3 players short of a good side. A very good side.


22.) 16 Mar 2018 17:23:51
Beast how can you say we aren't improving when compared to our direct rivals when we are currently ahead of 3 of the teams that were above us this time last year and we have gone out at the same stage of the competition in Europe as two of those same sides.


23.) 16 Mar 2018 16:46:34
Ed4
What do you think went wrong with Jose Chelsea team why couldn't he get the best out of hazard, Costa and co?

{Ed004's Note - He won the league with them players and then fell out with them and they downed tools... I don't think this current squad has downed tools for him.}


24.) 16 Mar 2018 17:15:03
Ed004 fergie had a great amount of goodwill to bank on jose doesn't.

We struggled without bailly because his other cb signing didn't work out and you are again barking up the wrong tree. The results are just the symptoms here not the disease. Had we lost to either of Chelsea or Liverpool the response from fans would have been the same.

We absolutely dominated Mourinho's madrid at OT until nani got sent off, what was that team - An injury prone rb and 3 has been defenders a 39 year old winger and tom cleverley and danny welbeck starting. You don't need an x player or a y player fit for the game to play good football you need a manager who allows that to play good football.

Until his football improves there is always going to be atleast a section of fans who want him gone, pogba being fit, bailly being fit are excuses only thing he requires is a change in his mentality and that is never going to happen.

{Ed004's Note - I thought Jose success or the fact we are in second ahead of teams that apparently have had better managers than us would have brought goodwill. I agree that a lot of this hostility is down to our current style of play. I just think hes doing the best he can with this group of players. I reckon arguments could be made about Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs and City all having a better balance in their first 11's alongside far fewer significant injuries to contend with}


25.) 16 Mar 2018 17:47:52
City are getting even stronger, this CL run will strengthen them further. The way they play will entice players to sign for them over us. We are not progressing compared to City who I consider our direct rival.

As for CL teams, well all the ones left in it would give Sevilla a hiding. We are miles behind the big Spanish teams, Bayern and even PSG - we will never catch them with Jose in charge because his style is anti-football. He has to change his style and he won't.

That is why I can say we are not progressing compared with our direct rivals. Finishing 2nd to City I could stomach at the minute, but the manner of finishing 2nd is a disgrace. I would find it hard to celebrate winning the league playing this way, but not winning anything or looking close? Shame on us for tolerating it is all I can say.

As for the likes of Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool - I hardly think we are pulling up trees there, there is barely anything between us and next season they will all be a lot stronger, will we? The only way we will get better is by spending £250m to get £50m of value from it because of how corrupting the style is on class.


26.) 16 Mar 2018 17:39:41
Again ed004 injuries to players is an excuse, 180 mins vs sevilla 4 shots that's all he manages, Lukaku, Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Pogba are capable of more, same goes for the games against Liverpool away or City Home, the team we have can attack, mourinho doesn't allow it.

The other managers except guardiola don't get the money to spend that jose does.

{Ed004's Note - I've repeatedly said I can't and won't defend the Sevilla match. It was appalling and I've stated that I've no idea where we went wrong. It seems every decision made was the incorrect one. However, you go and mention two games vs top 6 why not look at them all in the bigger pitcher where we sit second in the mini top 6 table with only city ahead of us. Wenger has just spend over 100 million on two strikers that won't play together, Liverpool 75 million on a cb, only Spurs haven't had a massive outlet on players. Money in the sport has gone crazy. Psg spent over 200 million on a player yet will only win Ligue 1, Milan spent 200 mill in the summer, Barcleona have surely spent close to 300 mill since previous season and that doesn't include Griezman.}


27.) 16 Mar 2018 18:24:15
Ed004 the reason I mentioned the 4 games were in 2 of those we made no attempt to win while in the other 2 we only started to attack once we were losing.

The points the results are all relative, the fact that a utd Manager goes into multiple games in a season with a sole view of not losing is absolutely disgraceful.

As someone said earlier give him more money and we will be less rubbish at conceding goals our football won't improve. Most folk forget that the mourinho madrid team that scored those record breaking goals and points faced Barcelona and bayern and Dortmund when he was there, every time the tactics were same Stoke city football.


28.) 16 Mar 2018 19:24:16
Ken
I wouldn't sack him but I'm not going to make silly excuses for him .
A team with pogba and co should be playing better .
United will buy players every summer that football .
Watch that Seville game then come on her posting it's not Jose fault he needs better players?


29.) 16 Mar 2018 19:01:25
Ed004, nobody can guarantee us trophies, mate. The sooner people realise that the better. there's any number of young managers can give us a chance of doing it, other than the dinosaur currently in charge.


 

 

 

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Wallace not to burst your bubble buddy but delaney is fibber, he rarely has any actual real news, he is like the aggregator version of journalists who just takes other's stories and puts it out as own.

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25 May 2018 15:59:08
jred juventus want sandro to extend contract there is no indication he wants to do the same, iirc he wanted to leave last summer wasn't allowed to and he hasn't exactly been great last season, also juve ceo kept telling everybody pogba was not going to leave until he left, won't read much into what he says.

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07 May 2018 06:03:29
Park the reason I want mourinho gone isn't because I dislike him, I was very happy when we signed him, you can check my posts of the time if you want but 2 years down the line I don't think he has it in him to do this job.

The reason i want him gone is because he will have his eventual meltdown in future and we will fall of a cliff just like Chelsea did, the new manager then will not only have to pickup the pieces but also hit the ground running due to the adidas clause, we could avoid that if we replace Mourinho now and give the new manager a bedding in season given our situation right now.

I agree changing managers won't suddenly turn things around but it will improve us over atleast medium term, as klopp is showing us a good manager gets his team playing well and getting results mourinho doesn't inspire the same confidence for me.

About his man management, again I don't care if he criticizes the players, do you think fergie would not be bringing his hairdryer out after a loss. The problem is constant humiliation of the players in media, history shows it doesn't end well for mourinho yet he is still doing it and we will see a Chelsea repeat because of his own antics.

Shaw plays well, mourinho is the brain and shaw is just the body. Shaw plays badly he is rubbish. Rashford plays well, he is great and mourinho is greater because he has given him minutes to play, rash plays badly, that is the reason he never starts ahead of lukaku. So for everything good mourinho wants credit for everything bad mourinho says he isn't at fault, how long before players say enough?

About players as I said some need to be replaced but it is a decent team. His 500k man has had a grand total of 2 good games excluding his debut against the lower league team, his 90mn signing blows hot and cold and his agent tried to engineer a move away from utd in Jan given mourinho's treatment of him. Our 2 young forwards have not improved under mourinho in 2 years, mourinho plays turgid football that has us playing 11 behind the ball yet ddg routinely needs to make world class saves to keep us from losing. That isn't good enough and when most of your team is underperforming and inconsistent it isn't practical to replace 10 players rather we need to replace the man at the helm for me.

He has done some good things, his signings if managed properly will be big successes for us, the Europa league, League cup and hopefully fa cup are great additions to our trophy cabinet but is he going to win the league, I don't think so. Is he going to win the CL again highly unlikely and for the money he has spent and wants to spend it isn't a good enough return.

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06 May 2018 18:10:56
UA now you are shifting goalposts given your when did they last play well point turned out to be incorrect.

Against City 2nd half, against Chelsea against Tottenham in semis, these players have shown that they can perform, can mourinho get them doing it consistently is the question.

Mourinho moans about rashford and martial not being good enough strikers which is why we lost to Brighton. Why then did we lose to westbrom lukaku played that one not those 2, why did it take until stoppage time to beat Arsenal's B team, again neither of the 2 started that one either.

He talks about our poor defense with his fanboys complaining about Jones and Smalling not being good enough, last I checked he signed 2 cb's neither of whom he has picked do Smalling and Jones force him to pick them?

He talks about utd not being a good enough team, guess what, a team with lorius karius, Jordan Henderson, Gini wijnaldum, Dejan lovren and James milner is in the Champions league final, so the poor team holding back mourinho excuse doesn't work either.

Mourinho has spent 300mn can't play decent football and is not winning us the league or CL. He is a man whose tactics are outdated and his motivation skills seem to have evaporated. You talk about players not being good enough but a manager must improve what he has atleast or are now supposed to buy 11 ready made players for him. Fergie excelled at getting the best out of average players, mourinho has managed to do the opposite. Pogba has regressed, same with rashford, name me one player who you can say mourinho has improved.

There are players who need to sold but when manager benches his own 70mn cb's for Jones and Smalling and can't get performances out of his 90mn mf and a fw who earns 500k a week it isn't the players who are at fault.

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Scholes lawro was the commentator and it would be unthinkable for him being a Liverpool guy to not bring up the past, that is where he and his ilk live.

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14 Jun 2018 05:29:52
Caolan I don't think we pay Rooney mk.2 500k a week to just work hard, running around like a headless chicken is not and will never be a substitute for actual good performances. I would rather have someone actually attacks, beat their man, score goals and create chances rather than someone who does little of above but works hard otherwise.

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13 Jun 2018 15:49:42
Kurzawa is average at best and boatang while decent is injury prone, how many more of those do we want in defense.

Ideally we should get rid of Smalling Jones rojo blind and darmian, get a good young cb like de ligt or pavard and get someone like bonuci to be the experienced guy if we can't sign alderwierld.

Lb we should be trying for Sandro, we have no width and stacking lw's all of whom like cutting inside won't solve the problem.

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Park I would love for that to happen but every mourinho defense post has a mention of our defense while completely ignoring the fact that he keeps starting Jones and Smalling over 2 cb's he bought. So I will believe it when i see it.

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13 Jun 2018 10:14:02
I just hope that if we don't sign any lb or cb, jose fanboys don't point to young Smalling and Jones to show how hamstrung their Messiah is.

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