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28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.


{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..

1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.




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16 Oct 2017 12:32:21
I think the press and fans are jumping onto the Mourinho not ending his career with us and blowing it way out of proportion. Jose has at least 17 years left until he is 70 odd years old and I think we all know deep down he is not going to be here for that long. I would expect him to stay beyond his 3 year contract but not stay longer than 7 years. He has previously stated he has ambitions of managing portugal and I can see him going to PSG. But i think we need to take what has been said in the media with a pinch of salt.

This, in my opinion, is the hardest job he has ever taken. To revive a wounded giant such as ourselves, under intense media scrutiny that united always have coupled with the need to play attacking and entertaining football. I think the key is to have a succession plan which is something that City have done really well. The club has been in turmoil since Fergie left and Mourinho has come in and has tried to change this. There has been a overhaul of the scouting system, academy and the facilities.

I think the idea of having a Director of Football is integral for us to move forward. In the modern day, there needs to be a bridge between the wigs on the board and the manager and this would make a change of manager less disruptive. Managers are not going to build dynasties a la Fergie and to an extent Wenger and this is something that the club has to accept. Personally, if Jose does go I would look to appoint a director of football and look at Pochettino or Marco Silva who is a fantastic young manager.

Of course all of this is speculation and pointless but I think we need to relax. We have gone to Anfield and come out with a point. Peformance was terrible but people are forgetting Arsenal and Chelsea just lost. We take the point and move on. We go again and we carry on winning. Pogba is intergal and I hope he is back soon because he tranforms our team.

Eds opinions appreicated.


{Ed002's Note - (a) He has no intention of working until he is 70. (b) It is not the "hardest job he has ever taken" - Manchester United and Liverpool fans are unable to see beyond the red tinted spectacle about the glasses they wear. (c) The club were unable to appoint the Director of Football they wanted - and JM would have been happy with. Simply appointing one at random won't work for him.}

1.) 16 Oct 2017 14:40:12
Hi Ed thanks for the reply. What do you think has been jose's hardest job if you do not think it is the united job?

Am I right in thinking that we were after the Athletico Madrid Director? I was not not suggesting we appoint someone random but instead suggesting that this should be a high priority for us.

Thanks for the insights.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get into anything about his hardest job as it is not worth the grief. No, MU were not after the AM DoF.}

2.) 16 Oct 2017 15:01:08
No problem thanks ed.

3.) 16 Oct 2017 19:12:32
It was the dof of sevilla who we were after but he chose Roma.

4.) 16 Oct 2017 22:17:32
The united job has got to be one of the easiest jobs in the world if you consider that the boards actions have shown since fergie left that as long as you get champions league football you're safe.

Im in no doubt the fans think differently and have higher expectations but the glazers, woodward etc have been quite lenient with managers post fergie.

5.) 17 Oct 2017 06:57:15
DSG, really? Moyes was acid after 1 year, LVG managed 2. That doesn't sound pariticularly lenient to me. They realised they made a mistake with Moyes and sacked him and LVG was sacked immediately after winning the FA Cup. Looks quite clinical to me.

6.) 17 Oct 2017 21:51:35
In a modern context i think it is AJH, if moyes and lvg performed like that at city, chelsea, madrid or bayern theyd have been hooked mid season.

With the resources available to united managers nowadays asking for champions league football season in season out isn't too much to ask in my opinion.

Obviously if were just looking at uniteds history then they have been given short shrift but i was speaking in relation to ruthless attitudes towards managers in recent times.



10 Sep 2017 12:16:17
it is unfortunate we did not pick up the three points yesterday but I think in the grand scheme of things a point away at Stoke will be viewed at as a good point. It is not the easiest place to go win as Arsenal found a few weeks ago, but nonetheless we should be winning these fixtures if we are to be champions.

I just wanted to touch on a few things that have been mentioned further down by other posters. I agree that perhaps Jose was too pragmatic yesterday with the inclusion of darmian and Herrera. I can see jose's reasoning with wanting to pack the midfield and therefore dominate the play. With the inclusion of darmian, he wanted to provide more stability and height to the defence.

I do think he did get selection wrong and that we should have set up with two pacy wingers In Martial and rashford with miki behind lukaku. With the pace and trickery on the wings, we would have been able to stretch the stoke full backs and therefore created pockets of space for Miki and pogba to excel in areas where they can be most creative. For me, miki has struggled every time he has been put out on the wing and he lacks the strength and often becomes isolated. He then comes in field which leaves us lacking width as darmian does not provide it on the left. Therefore, we are left only with Valencia out wide and we all know his crossing is not at the level it should be. That's why I would have loved us to have signed aurier as going forward he is explosive and dynamic with a good cross. i do feel our most creative player is miki and if we are not going to play him at no 10 when we are away from home in a big game then it may be a better idea to even bench him and start a more direct winger such as martial or lingard. Then if the game is opening up, miki is the perfect player to come on and make things happen. His vision and close control is sublime and as a no 10 he is one of the most creative and exciting players in the league.

I feel we are very well placed to win the league with the squad and team we have. We can mostly all agree we are lacking that X factor player such as griezmann or bale and it shows in games like yesterday. Griezmann for me is a phenomenal player and I think he will come in next summer.

On city, I have not been impressed with them defensively as I thought Liverpool had the more clear cut chances before the sending off. But with their attacking depth, they will be there challenging. Against an organised and well drilled team such as ourselves, spurs or Chelsea, I feel they will struggle and if you manage de bruyne then then you are half way there in my opinion.

Chelsea look strong and cannot be discounted. With hazard to come back they have a strong team and good squad. Interesting to see how they cope with Europe and if alonso gets injured as he is key to their system working. Morata looks very good and is brilliant on the ball. He will do well there.

Spurs are spurs. Fantastic work rate and play at a brilliant pace but squad depth is an issue. It is to be seen whether than can sustain a title challenge. Same with Liverpool, who on there day can rip anybody's defence with their attack but are atrocious in defence. Not going to lie it was nice to see them get thrashed but I do feel the result did not reflect the way city played as there were not outstanding.

I think perspective is needed as 10 from 12 points and top of the league is a very good start. We are not the finished article and we do struggle when team sit back and or tempo then becomes slow. But in Jose we have a manager who is tactically brilliant, although too pragmatic at times. But I would rather he was like that then get trashed 5-0 by city.

So excited to be back in the champions league where we belong to be! Onwards and upwards lads as it is an exciting time to be a united fan and I have this cautious feeling that we are on our way back to the top. Haven't felt this feeling in a long long time so let's enjoy it as it will be a hell of a season with lots of twists and turns.


1.) 10 Sep 2017 12:52:03
Park. You got it spot on. I think city will win it as they have the fire power and will score mire than they'll concede.
I also think Chelsea are looking strong again. As are Spurs.
Our fight will be with Liverpool and Arsenal but if zlatan comes back firing and if we can add width in January, then I can see us challenging city and Chelsea for the title.

2.) 10 Sep 2017 13:53:16
I think these 2 points (and similar) are the ones that kill us in the end. A few years ago I would agree with the common perception that a point at Stoke is good enough. But the league is different now, there are 9/ 10 teams better than Stoke and Stoke isn't as hard a place as it once was. Hughes has changed a lot about the way they play so Stoke is no longer as difficult as it was under Pulis imo.

Even if we ignore my above opinion, the way we played was not good enough, which is more concerning to me. Games can be won or lost in a second, but there were very large chunks of that game, as well as against Leicester and Swansea where we looked totally clueless and very slow. That is the biggest concern I have. If we play how we have for the past 3 games (75% of games this season, 80% if we count the Real Madrid game which was worse still), then it is going to be a struggle for top 4. We have gone from 5th gear to 3rd gear again, always mitigating circumstances of course, but we need to improve a lot if we expect to compete.

We have had an easy start, wish we had a very hard start so more chances were taken in the window.

3.) 10 Sep 2017 14:38:46
I can see where you are both coming from schmid and beast but I think you are both not looking at the fact that we have managed to turn it on and blow teams away when we have needed to. Last season we would not have been able to score 3 in the space of 4 mins against Swansea. Granted Swansea were poor but we have shown we have ability to kill off teams by introducing impact players such as martial off the bench. That is something we were not displaying last year and I have not seen any other team so far do that. Remember we are only 4 games into the season and we have not yet hit our stride yet.

I agree with you beast that stoke is not the same prospect as it was under pulis. They are no longer rugby tackling and kicking bits out of teams but they no pose a different threat with some very good players in their team who on there say will cause problems for the top sides. We looked off the pace yesterday and it will happen. But I do think we have enough to win the league but we need to be playing players in the right positions and we really need Shaw to come back and be the player that we hope he can be. I am a fan of his but this is really last chance saloon. Clearly Jose sees something in him otherwise we would have bought a left back.

Perhaps I am more of a glass half full then a glass half empty person, but I can see the improvements we are making and can see us winning the league. But consistency and high tempo in our play is key. Would be great to hear your thoughts ed004 if you are about mate.

{Ed004's Note - I have to agree with everything that has been said previously. I think the line up was poor to start with. The more I watch of Pogba the more I think he is better suited to playing in a two man midfield. I think we should be trying to create a team similar to that of Heyneckes Bayern Munich side with Pogba and Matic playing like Martinez and Schweinsteiger. I think yesterday was just a bad day. We saw a few poor individual mistakes from players and Bailly will hopefully not play like that again this season.

The point made on fullbacks is very important. I can't for the life of me believe that Jose is happy with ours currently. I think it's a case of there being too many currently in the squad to sign anymore. Which is a massive shame because Semedo and then Aurier would have been perfect for us at right back. We are short 3 players at the minute in my opinion. A rb, lb and an attacking option like Griezmann. I can think of a few options for the left back such as Tierney, Sandro, maybe even Alaba. Hopefully Shaw steps up and nails down a first team place bough. However, I can't think of any right backs that will be available, though I didn't know much about Semedo at this stage last year so hopefully we see one breaking out - maybe some on this site can think of one that I've missed.

I am a lot more confident going into this season. We look like we will have the best defence in the league this season, or top 3 at least. While our attack has improved massively with players stepping up and settling in better/quickly. I'm not expecting us to win the league this season but at bare minimum we should be challenging with City and Chelsea}

4.) 10 Sep 2017 16:30:42
Yes I think we will win the league also Park. I just think that we need to lift it a lot more than what we have shown the past 3 league games.

Granted it's better than last year - but we didn't exactly set the bar too high last year and most other teams will be better than last year.

I also appreciate that we have the ability to blitz teams, but those instances will be rare and if you have a handful a season I would hope Swansea wouldn't be one of the teams taking up that trump card.

We look far too static still and people will moan about the Intl break or use that to justify it. Or as Ed says just put it down to a bad day at the office, but we could easily have had a bad day at the office in 3 of the 4 league games we have played this season. The performance against West Ham seems to be a freak at the minute, when in reality we need to be performing to that level much more consistently if we want to be winning things.

I see no reason why we can't lift it to that level more often, it's down to the manager getting the potential from the players with his set-up and motivation/ expertise - we saw freak performances under Moyes and LVG - that West Ham game showed us all what we can do, we shouldn't tolerate levels of play well below that.

I expected 10-12 points minimum from our start and truth be told I expected to look better than what we have. 2 week international break has a habit of causing some fans to forget about the poor/ slow play we watched going into it - this was more of the same, not an exception unfortunately. Hopefully we lift it again mid-week. I am just judging what I have seen, not what I expect or hope to see for the remaining games. There are a lot more teams in the league that will either stifle or be better than Stoke, so it's 2 points dropped for me and a below average performance all round.

5.) 10 Sep 2017 18:32:59
I think your just seeing a Jose team.

6.) 10 Sep 2017 19:45:05
Fergie only managed 12 points in the first 4 epl games twice in all his tim n the prem.

Just to put perspective on our 10pt start.

7.) 10 Sep 2017 19:45:54
I'm sure when we bought pogba and broke the world transfer record many said he was the player that would bring us that x factor .
In fact I think many said Miki would.
90 mil on lukaku 4 goals 4 games maybe he us the man .
With more games could martial or rash step up?

Can't help thinking people rate players from different team more than our own, if Miki was still at Dortmund or pogba at juve I'm sure they would be the player to bring the x factor to the team . Just like they where last summer .

We have started the season well imo looked good, as good as anyone in the league imo yet people seem to be caught up in how THEY think we should play .
I think we are playing and looking like a Jose team which isn't a surprise as he is our manager.

8.) 10 Sep 2017 20:13:31
Well said jred.

9.) 10 Sep 2017 20:26:00
Miki needs to play centrally to see the real talent he is. If we're shovin him out wide he may aswel be replaced with a genuine wide player. It's no coincidence he has 5/ 6 assists this season from playing centrally. For me, to get the best of both Pogba and miki it's a two man midfield with miki number 10. So stick to it.

{Ed004's Note - I see no reason as to why Mkhitaryan couldn't play in the right the way Mata has been but we need to always have a 10 in the side. I still think we will go for Griezmann mainly because there aren't many world class wingers around at the minute.}

10.) 10 Sep 2017 21:44:32
Park, beast and ed4. Interesting points and I agree with most of that. When I say city and Chelsea are better, I don't mean to sound negative. It's my opinion. City in particular have lots of excellent attacking options. The type that we had when Fergie was manager. Quite often, the opposition will score 2 but we'll score 4. That's what wins the league. Good defensive record is great but will mean nothing if we couldn't score more against teams like stoke. They are a bang average team and we should be blowing them apart.
On lb, I love the way Tierney has developed. Hope mourinho is on his trail. Greizman will be a sensational player for us.

{Ed004's Note - Tierney and Griezmann would be sensational signings but I haven't seen one poster suggest an alternative right back}

11.) 10 Sep 2017 23:07:44
What about the young real sociedad rb Odriozola? He looks quality!

{Ed004's Note - Have never even seen him play. Will have to watch out for Sociedad games}

12.) 11 Sep 2017 00:00:41
Agree with that schmid. Tierney looks a real talent and would transform our attack marauding up that left flank. Griezmann is class and him interchanging with miki and rashford/ martial would be devastating. I agree city will score a lot this year and their depth is phenomenal. To have Bernardo silva and sane on the bench is a managers dream. Still think teams will exploit the spaces behind Mendy and walker. Should be a great season ahead.

13.) 11 Sep 2017 03:17:31
City scored a lot last season I would be surprised if they scored that much more this season .
You can only play 11.silva kdb aguero Jesus will still start the majority of games .

14.) 11 Sep 2017 21:21:59
Agreed Park and ed4. Get Tierney and greizman and our team will be very strong. We'll have to see what happens in the Jan window.

{Ed004's Note - That's exactly what I would do in January. Activate Griezmann's clause and try to persuade Celtic to stay. Then next summer look at rb, cover for Matic/Carrick replacement and a winger.}



08 Jul 2017 00:55:39
So it seems Chelsea have matched our bid for lukaku. I feel like Chelsea have done this to keep face so that they can turn round and say that lukaku was forced into the move by raiola. I'm not convinced by reports that raiola wants him to come to us because of the fee he will receive. Chelsea have dithered and hesitated and have lost out on potentially a title deciding signing.

Now I know that sounds a bit dramatic but I do believe that lukaku will be a huge success wherever he goes. A lot has been made of his first touch and his work rate. But he does the most important thing a striker can do - put the ball in the net! We have been crying out for a player who can do that and like many have mentioned on here, big Rom can do that.

Now I have always preferred the signing of morata as I believe his all round game is far superior and his link up play is brilliant. And although his goal record is not prolific, I always felt that he would have thrived being the main man at united. And I really hate the though of him going to Chelsea potentially, as he genuinely wanted to join us. But the more I think about lukaku the more I think it was the more logical move as he is proven and most importantly he is hungry to succeed at a top club. He will have learnt from his time at Chelsea and will be chomping on the bit to prove all his doubters wrong. So will Jose and so will the rest of or team after and embarrassing 6th place finish last year.

With a team full of young, hungry players, this will make us a force next year. Add a defensive midfielder, a winger, a full back and potentially another forward (seems to point to griezmann), we will start to see a team capable of competing.

So although morata would have been my preferred choice, the money for a reserve player was ludicrous. But in signing a proven premier league striker, we are weakening a rival as well as buying with a sense of purpose and plan as opposed to players from abroad who need a bedding in period and end up flopping (di Maria/ depay) . Can't wait till the season starts and fingers crossed we see lukaku in a united shirt.


1.) 08 Jul 2017 08:48:54
I've never seen Morata play, I've seen Lukaku and s Mwtes he looks great, sometimes he doesn't. However we know he scores goals in the EPL so all things considered it is much less risky.



17 May 2017 22:02:21
Anybody else sick of seeing jamie redknapps smug face on sky sports. Awful clueless pundit. Biased and clearly has an issue with jose after Jose called him out last year. Yes we have been woeful in the league but redknapp is stealing a living. How many trophies has klopp won?


1.) 17 May 2017 22:24:46
Was about to post the same thing, completely biased, terrible pundit . Fair play to Souness for at least balancing such a ridiculous standpoint . He was almost angry, loathe the man myself .

2.) 17 May 2017 22:40:03
I totally agree I am just surprised sky sports have not replaced him yet.

3.) 17 May 2017 22:49:25
I'd just like to see someone who could string a proper sentence together in English.

4.) 18 May 2017 00:54:02
Like his Dad you mean? 😉.



16 May 2017 17:01:28
Saw a quite shocking stat the other day regarding Morata. I know stats can be misleading and need to be in context. Personally I don't rate him as highly as to a griezmann, aubameyang or lewandowski. Haven't seen much of Belotti but from what I have the guy is an absolute beast. I like to think of him as zlatan with pace and more agility. And again lukaku deserves praise for being the highest scorer in the league but still has doubts with his big game mentality.

But going back to morata. He is reals second highest scorer after ronaldo. This shocked me as I have always associated him as a skilful talented player but definitely not a prolific goal scorer who can lead the line. More goals than benzema is quite impressive considering morata is considered a non starter.

My question is who does everyone think we need to sign as our striker? I'm surprised to see people writing of griezmann as our no 9 and worried about whether he can cope with the physicality of the league. This guy is in the top 5 players in the world. He came 3rd in the ballon dor and wasn't phenomenal for France in the euros as the main striker. He is quick, strong, clinical and his set pieces are phenomenal. He would be our aguero signing and would completely transform our attack.

He's the perfect signing for our club and I hope we do to get him because apart from messi and ronaldo, there are few players who are top top drawer. And griezmann is one of them.


1.) 16 May 2017 17:31:33
I hope we sign James Rodriguez wanted him before the rumours think he can replace Rooney and hope Rashford is leading the line in all honesty, him and Martial could get a lot of goals with a man like Rodriguez pulling the strings behind them think we need another attacker mind someone like little pea or Olly to come on and poach those close game goals we been missing this year if we had a bench poacher like those to this season a lot of draws would of been wins.

2.) 16 May 2017 19:14:41
The thing bothering me with Greizmann, is why did Chelsea step away last season?
The main issue I would like to see resolved is Man utd not being viewed as an easy club to mug by other clubs players and agents in the market.
We are perceived as an easy touch and can do without manipulation: first step towards that would be any deal with real regarding DDG.

3.) 16 May 2017 22:22:42
Something about Belotti just makes me think he would be incredible for us. Reminds me of a more powerful RvN, and that would just be insane.

Could we seriously be in for James, Griezmann and a #9. Surely that's too much to ask for, however I would be over the moon.

{Ed004's Note - That is the only way I would be happy if James came in. I don't want him at the expense of Griezmann or Belotti/Lukaku etc. If he's a direct replacement for Mata it could make sense. 80% of our games next year will be played with 4231 and those that aren't will ensure there is plenty of competition in the squad with Griezmann, James, Martial and Mkhitaryan competing for a wide spot (Potentially Rashford as well)}




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20 Oct 2017 18:07:18
He seems to split opinions KG. Personally I think when on form he’s one of the best 10s in the world. A few seasons back he got 20 odd assists and was almost unplayable. I understand the objections to signing him due to his weak mentality and his soft underbelly which makes it all the more surprising we are linked with him. But he was unplayable at times under Jose at real and if he can get him back to that level it will take our team to the next level. I am of the thinking that Ozil has become stale and disinterested at arsenal and needs a new challenge and a kick up the backside to get that fire in his belly back.

I personally would be very happy to see him here and think he would flourish with the formidable platform of matic, pogba and our defence behind him. Couple that with the runs by lukaku, miki, rashford and martial then I think he would be an astute signing. People have mentioned that miki and mata are better are 10 but for me miki goes missing too much. I love the guy and I think he is supremely talented but when he is a passenger then it’s time to rest him and take him out the team. Having Ozil yo rotate will give us the sort of depth city have.

On to mata, again I hope he stays but for me he’s an inverted right winger and he does quite well out there. If Jose wanted him as a ten he would have played him there and he hasn’t. Ozil will know he will have to graft under Jose and he will graft because he knows if he does not then he will warm the bench. Wenger has lost that fear factor and Ozil knows Wenger won’t pull him up on the grafting side of the game. I do think Ozil does get scapegoated in the media due to his lackadaisical berbatov-esque style of play. I think I read somewhere he ran more than Sanchez last year (don’t quote me) .

So to sum up yes I really hope we do sign him if there is anyone to get Ozil to the level we saw a few years ago then it is Jose. A midfield three of matic pogba Ozil with miki able to come in is a mouth watering prospect. And I am sure Ozil will be chomping at the bit to prove the media wrong and also at the possibility of playing in front of a solid midfield and defence.




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16 Oct 2017 15:01:08
No problem thanks ed.




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16 Oct 2017 14:40:12
Hi Ed thanks for the reply. What do you think has been jose's hardest job if you do not think it is the united job?

Am I right in thinking that we were after the Athletico Madrid Director? I was not not suggesting we appoint someone random but instead suggesting that this should be a high priority for us.

Thanks for the insights.


{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get into anything about his hardest job as it is not worth the grief. No, MU were not after the AM DoF.}



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11 Oct 2017 21:49:28
Wouldn't argue with those three signings shappy. They would make us challengers for the champions league. Seems to me that Jose saw Fabinho more as a right back than a defensive midfielder. Brilliant player who can half take a penalty as well.

Personally a massive fan of griezmann in the the bracket of top top players under Ronaldo and messi. If there was even a shred of a chance we could get dybala then he would be my dream signing. Danny rose looks a real possibility if you read what the tabloids are saying. Quality player who would dramatically change our attack and add a new dynamism to the team. I do fear that his injury record is poor though. Wouldn't mind David alaba who looks a bit disinterested at Bayern and could be looking for a new challenge.




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11 Sep 2017 00:00:41
Agree with that schmid. Tierney looks a real talent and would transform our attack marauding up that left flank. Griezmann is class and him interchanging with miki and rashford/ martial would be devastating. I agree city will score a lot this year and their depth is phenomenal. To have Bernardo silva and sane on the bench is a managers dream. Still think teams will exploit the spaces behind Mendy and walker. Should be a great season ahead.