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28 Apr 2017 16:28:10
So gutted if the reports are true that fosu mensah has dislocated his shoulder. Was so looking forward to him getting some game time in midfield as I believe an eventual combination of him Herrera and pogba would compliment eachother very well.

The injuries really have taken its toll and it time for the players to stand up and be counted for. Rooney apparently could play in midfield and many will disagree but I think he could have provided a link from midfield to attack that we were missing yesterday. Not the same player but he can still do a job. Big game Sunday let's get the 3 points on the board and put pressure on city and the scousers.

Lots to play for and could end up being a special end if the seasons. Onwards and upwards.

Park3lung

{Ed025's Note - mensah is not the biggest loss though park, better him out than one of the bigger names as im sure we wont see the best of him until next season at the earliest mate..


1.) 29 Apr 2017 14:40:00
We need to remain calm about the youth players. I'm a huge fan of Rashfords potential but he isn't in the top 50 scorers in the 'league' this season and Mensah has done nothing yet to even be discussed as the main defensive midfielder in a team that wants to win the CL. It's almost bordering on hysteria. Both their positions need serious strengthening in the summer.


 

 

 

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10 Dec 2017 22:50:51
The irony of us gifting two goals from set pieces is laughable. All I want to see is passion and determination from the players. It was a derby for Christ’s sake against our neighbours and title rivals. The players should have been harrying and pressuring city not giving them a moments rest. But instead we sat off and allowed them to play. We showed them so much respect and it is bitterly disappointing. The crowd played their part in creating a supportive atmosphere and the players and manager let us down today. What I saw today was not in keeping with the traditions of the club I love. City played the way we used to - with pace, creativity and passion. I have been Jose’s biggest supporter but today showed me that although we may win the league with him at some point, we will not do it in the United way. And that is not good enough for our great club. City have a long term plan and they are a club on the up. We have bought badly and our owners care about money. I would even say city are favourites for the champions league. What I saw today is one manager that lives and breathes a creative and beautiful brand of football. And I saw another that is happy to sit back and ‘hope’ for a mistake. That is the difference between the two sides. One manager see the beauty of the game whilst another see it in a more pragmatic way. We do not have bad players we have some fantastic skilful young players. If rashford and martial were playing under pep they would be flourishing like sterling and sane. It’s painful to admit but they have a manager who we should have signed after Fergie.

Where is our ambition? Where is the united of old? It died the day Fergie left. The club needs to take a hard look at itself if we want to get back to the top. We must invest in January and we must back the manager in the summer. I am sure after a few days I will be able to be less emotional and more objective of the situation. We must take each game as t comes and keep on winning. And then we must pray that our rivals do us a favour. Because that is what it will take for us to even have a chance.

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1.) 11 Dec 2017 06:08:24
I think that's a bit of an over reaction bud. Guardiola is no messiah and he has spent over 600 million pounds on a squad that was better than our when he arrived. We can't be great one week and and dog sh. t the next based on one result. sometimes in football the ball bounces right for you and that is the difference of a win lose or draw.


2.) 11 Dec 2017 07:35:01
Park

Aims and ambitions. City want to have the best football team in Europe and dominate, become the English version of Barca, money is no object. Utd’s want to be the most valued brand with the asset value in mind, goals (financial) can be achieved by getting in the Champions League each year. Fundamentally that is the issue and arguments over managers, players and style are driven by that.


3.) 11 Dec 2017 07:35:36
X Files - You are right, Pep is no bloody messiah, he spent outrageous amounts of money and got the players who fit in his system.

I think Mou was really brave with the line-up, I didn't think for a second before the line-up came that we will play with Rashford, Lukaku and Martial together with just Herrera and Matic playing in the middle, with Lingard roaming free.

From the first minute, the only thing that really pissed me off was that United weren't really going for the press on the city players, and I don't mean press the defence, but allowing De Bruyne and Silva 10-15 yards to run with the ball is just not acceptable. And they aren't running sideways, but they are running towards your goal. Heckle, them for Christ's sake.

Then, Rojo and Young hoofing the ball upfield towards Lukaku is just making him run for no reason. If they did want to play the long balls, then at least ping them behind the full backs, that's where the space is (coz of City's high press), no point pinging it in the middle because the defence will just sort it out.

Sometimes, during the game, I felt that United players are just scared of the ball or getting the ball to their feet and playing through the press. All you need is a bit of movement from the people around you and the press can be countered, instead, those players would receive a pass, and then boom! upfield it went.

City didn't carve us open the way people expected them to, they got two goals which on any other day, given the way United defend, would not have been goals. Yes, they had more of the ball, but that was expected from them and Mou doesn't play a possession-based game. So that's fine.

I think because we gave city so much space in front of us, our intensity suffered and we just weren't good enough on the counter and we always looked a little concerned with the press.

Lukaku should have scored that one and then Mata could have converted that, but that was some save by Ederson and I doubt he knew much about it. But, when you are the number 9 in the team, you are expected to bury those chances.

Pogba was a big miss, I remember him turning koscielny inside out for United's third goal last weekend and when he got the red card, the first thought that I had was, that we don't have players who can do that. Pogba would have made a big difference in the middle of the park, at least he wouldn't have allowed Silva and De Bruyne to run with the ball and City would have been vary of him on the break. But that ifs and buts and those will always be the case.

I think the title race is still on, maybe we have an outside chance of catching them (this is the fanboy in me talking, not the realistic one) but we really have to up our intensity and make teams believe that they aren't playing have-beens, we still are MANCHESTER F***ING UNITED and I would them players to realise this.


On a side note, make them watch the movie United, let them feel what it really means to be playing for one of the most successful club's in the world.

Come on Bournemouth, let's have you!


4.) 11 Dec 2017 09:47:00
I have to laugh at people moaning about City spending ridiculous sums of money. Did we get all ours on free's? The difference is, their manager knew exactly who he wanted, and in what position, and they spent what was needed to get them. United fans whingeing about another team spending money, dearie me.


5.) 11 Dec 2017 10:02:55
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On the money there pal.


6.) 11 Dec 2017 11:17:56
Agree with that nou. Not as if we haven’t spent a huge amount either. We haven’t invested well enough. Lukaku was a poor signing and yes he may score get 20 goals this year. But he hasn’t done it in any of the big games. I saw a stat this morning that van persie scored 7 goals against the so called top 6 rivals. Lukaku has 0 in 5 games. If we want to win the league we have to be beating the big boys and not hoping to scrape a lucky goal on the break. The number 9 at united has to stand up and show that they are big enough to be there. Van persie did that. Lukaku has not and I do not think he has the personality to be our main man.

Going onto Jose. I actually think he has done a good job to get us to where we are at the moment. The improvement has been massive and we are a different team from the van gaal days. And pep inherited a better squad than Jose. But the style of football is not good enough. At least go for t and show some passion and have a go at teams. We looked scared yesterday and couldn’t string 4 passes together. That is not good enough for our club.


7.) 11 Dec 2017 12:50:07
Stevie,

By no means was I moaning about the money spent by City. Of course, we've spent an absurd amount of money as well, whether we were forced or whether Mr. Woodward wanted to spend that money is debatable. I just agree with the above post with regards to the fact that, Pep inherited a better City squad than us, a squad that even in Pelligrini's time was able to play those quick passes and now, with Pep, they are able to press opponents as well.

Our squad lost their identity and even now, we don't really know who we are. Are we the counter attacking specialist? No, are we kinds to park the bus, not too sure. Are we the ones who play free flowing football and strike fear into the minds of the opponents? Again, no clear answer.

We need to start playing with a direction, we need to counter the way the other team plays, not become defensive. We need to have a plan, an execution, not a knee-jerk reaction to how the other team is playing.

Again, sorry if I came across as a whining United fan, crying about the money, but I wasn't, I was simply trying to make sense of what I saw.


8.) 11 Dec 2017 16:01:54
Stevie

Never said we got our free and do you know for a fact that Jose is done with what he wants or maybe there are 3 or 4 players he would like to add but has some limitations where city and good old pep no matter where he goes seems to have an endless purse to spend.

I will take mourinho over pep personally and wait and allow the man to build the team he wants and then let's see who wins what.


9.) 11 Dec 2017 20:59:40
I was exaggerating to make a point :)


 

 

10 Dec 2017 18:35:15
Not good enough at all. Jose got the tactics and team selection horribly wrong. Why change the formation when we looked so comfortable and potent with 3 at the back?! Lukaku is not good enough. We bought the wrong striker and should have shelled out for morata. His first touch is woeful and his hold up play is non existent. Young, although in great form, was shown today for what he is - a makeshift left back. In midfield we can’t string two passes together without pogba. It is ridiculous how poor we are without him.

I didn’t think City were great today and we let them play. We showed them way too much respect and it was embarrassing on the first half with their fans taunting us. I’m not sure where we go from here but I think certain players need a spell on the sideline. Lindelof was brilliant when he came on and his passing range is fantastic. He really added to us going forward and we were better in the second half. I hate this feeling losing to a rival and after a really good last few weeks I was so looking forward to this game.

Going forward, I would happily give Lukaku a rest and play either rashford or martial instead. Get Lindelof and Bailly paired together and give shaw a run of games as he will only get better with confidence and consistency. With pogba out for a couple of more games, I would bring in Fellaini when he’s fit as Herrera offers nothing going forward. We just have to carry on winning and hope city slip up. Over to spurs next week to give us a hand. Bitterly disappointed but we played into their hands and that is what makes it even more infuriating.

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03 Dec 2017 11:23:15
Great win yesterday and fantastic game reminiscent of the United v arsenal games of old. Can’t say it was not nerve wracking but to put 3 past arsenal at there ground is a fantastic achievement!

I actually quite like the 3 at the back formation with the front three causing real havoc for defences. Wanted to touch on Jesse as I have been one of his biggest critics and often thought he was not good enough. But my has he proved me wrong. He was brilliant yesterday and he runs and works hard for the team like no other player. We tend to forget united is in his blood and being a local boy he will do anything to see us win. He offers something our othe attackers don’t - movement. Sensational movement off the ball and something that really made me think was Rio and scholesy’s comments last week about how talented he was. The fact that these two are pointing out his talent tell us he can develop into a very good player. I hope he knuckles down and improves his consistency as he has been very good last few games.

Just to mention De Gea. Wow what can I say. The guy is super human. Some of those saves are obscene. Every season he makes me gasp and wonder how the hell he made that save. He is without doubt the best keeper in the world and we should do anything to keep hold of him because keepers like that save you 12-15 points a season. May be controversial but he has the ability to surpass schmeichel as our greatest keeper ever. Love his attitude and he has never thrown his toys out the pram at not getting his move to real. We are blessed to have him at our great club and I hope he is will is for many years to come.

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30 Nov 2017 09:26:21
Not going to lie that last minute city winner stung badly. They are getting the rub of the green and i guess this is how other teams felt when we nicked it in Fergie time over the years. I agree with rave down below the HAVE to beat city when they come to OT. I think judging by jose’s Recent selections he knows we have to attack and win every game now with the way city are flying. I say buckle ourselves in guys because there is still a lot to play for and Jose will really let the shackles off like he has never normally done before.

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1.) 30 Nov 2017 09:48:56
They have scored late on in there last 3 games. All which have been very difficult for city to break down the opposition.

Teams are slowly working out how to get to city and nulify there attacks.

If Southampton were better in the final 3rd last night they would have won.

Yes they may have had 20 plus shots late night but Southampton had the clear cut chances.

It's only a matter of time before they come unstuck and the luck runs out.


2.) 30 Nov 2017 10:11:20
I would agree with that Bolger Southampton should have had a few from corners. Seems that is a weakness for city and if we could get a good delivery in from corners that is an area we can exploit.

Somewhere where I feel we lack and which has been done to death is that creative game changer. That seems to be getting city these last few goals and I do sometimes worry we could get unstuck here. Ozil was class last night and I know it was Huddersfield but we should move heaven and earth for him. On his day is can be unplayable and I think we will see his work rate under Jose improve. I know a lot on here would prefer mata but I think Ozil is different class to any of the 10s we have.


3.) 30 Nov 2017 10:32:29
Was Mata better at Chelsea and Miki at Dortmund than ozil has been at arsenal.


4.) 30 Nov 2017 10:40:31
In my view jred Ozil is better than both those players. He is the playmaker of the German national team and would take our team to a different level. Miki was very good at Dortmund but he was playing on the right and not in the 10 position. I will admit mata was incredible at Chelsea and I am a massive fan and think we should definitely keep hold of him. But he rarely plays 10 albeit when he does he does well. But it’s clear Jose doesn’t really trust him in that position. I know we often look at other players in other teams and wish for them when in reality our players are just as accomplished. But Özil with pogba and matic behind him, feeding martial, lukaku and rashford is a mouth watering prospect. Just my humble opinion 😂.


5.) 30 Nov 2017 11:51:53
Park
You really think he has been excellent in the epl over the last 4 year.
Don't get me wrong I think he is a good player but the missing link in a this Jose team?


6.) 30 Nov 2017 12:23:41
I think he has been up there on top 3 playmakers the last 4 years yes. I think he is the easy scapegoat for fans because of his lackadaisical and ‘relaxed’ style of play. Much like martial who gets flack from our own fans for not looking interested. When in reality that is just our style of play. Fans love a player that charges around and works hard such as a tevez instead of let’s say a berbatov. I love mata but I think Ozil is better. As for missing link? I didn’t say that but I think he would add something different to our attack. Let’s be honest, we need two new full backs and a right winger more importantly. Add another central midfield and we have a brilliant team. So to answer your question jred - he isn’t the missing link but he would improve us a lot.


7.) 30 Nov 2017 12:28:23
Park
I though the same watching Miki at Dortmund and Mata at Chelsea.


8.) 30 Nov 2017 12:42:33
Ozil has always been better than Miki and Mata.


9.) 30 Nov 2017 12:44:22
I thought Mata was amazing at Chelsea, I had him down as one of the very best players in the league as he was running the show week in week out. Sorry to say he hasn't hit anything like those heights for us apart from a few great moments. Whether it's him, the managers or our style of play since he joined, he's been a 'nice to have' rather than a 'must have'. Respect the guy a lot though.

As for ozil, has serious talent but too much of a luxury player for me, we have enough players that lack oomph and can't grab a hard game by the scruff of the neck.
Need someone with class as well as drive.

For me we are a kdb/ hazard/ coutinho short of being an excellent team for all types of games. Any ideas who fits that bill and could be available?


10.) 30 Nov 2017 13:06:11
Rave
A kdb/ hazard/ coutinho, pogba?


11.) 30 Nov 2017 15:20:54
jred yes Pog is a quality player but a different position/ type to those I mentioned. He's not a number 10 nor is he an all-out attack player, and that's not a criticism.

I'd also like him to do the business and win us games consistently in the real big clashes, like those above do.


12.) 30 Nov 2017 15:55:44
Rave
But pogba can and should be a match winner.


13.) 30 Nov 2017 16:09:44
Pogba can be. But as we've seen recently when he's out we had no one else step up. If we had two such players capable of winning games then one could pick up the slack if the other is missing.


14.) 30 Nov 2017 16:21:15
Mort
Had a couple step up last night.


15.) 30 Nov 2017 16:25:14
for me Ozil is a better 10 than both Miki and Mata but there are better fits for us than him, Dybola or Ferkir or Greizmann would be that missing piece Ferkir for me, he strong aggressive great vision and finishing ability and tracks back, he everywhere like Kante but further forward and the songs sung for him by the crowd could be very interest lol.


 

 

29 Nov 2017 12:00:06
Great win yesterday I was quite apprehensive going into this game expecting us to draw. Some really good performances from young, Lindelof, martial and Lingard. Never been lingard’s biggest fan but I think he might just be winning me over. His movement is fantastic and This aspect of his game offers a different dimension to our attack. Most of our attackers want ball to feet but he is willing to run the hard and clever lines to pull defenders out of position and creating space for martial and others.

Now I just wanted to touch on big rom. Now I will be the first to confess that I preferred is to sign morata in the summer and I believe he is a superior technical footballer who would have linked very well with the players we already have. And lukaku’s dip in form and confidence in fromt of goal has not been ideal and this was evident with that miss of the open goal. But I actually think his general overall play and build up play has improved massively since he has joined us. He is clearly working much harder and e has added a fair few assists to his game in recent weeks. He is puttting himself about and making things happen and I actually think that he is a major contributor to why we are seeing a much more potent attack with martial flourishing. Zlatan was static last year and stifled the attackers (although he was prolific) whereas this year we are breaking at pass and are very clinical.

My point is although rom looks a bit nervy in front of goal, he is actually influencing the game through assists and work rate around the pitch and has developed his overall game massively since joining from Everton. His turn and pass to Lingard for the first goal was very good and I am pleased to see us score 4 goals and not even have him on the score sheet. Shows we have others who can contribute. He will get out of this rut and get scoring again. And when he does, we will be difficult to play against for any team.

Park3lung

1.) 29 Nov 2017 12:44:14
Rom put a shift in goals will come.


 

 

 

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10 Dec 2017 14:11:54
Nonsense he is class player and we should do our all the sign him as he would take us to the next level. Yes he opted against joining us once but that shouldn’t stop us going in for him again. Need to put this ego aside.

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10 Dec 2017 14:10:14
Oh Danny that was brilliant! I’m sure Jose will have these boys fired up and show the world that Manchester is still red.

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14 Nov 2017 00:15:06
Wouldn’t touch him Cinderella. Always preferred griezmann so we can only hope.

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02 Nov 2017 11:30:40
If rumours are to be beloved Kenedy, then Jose is looking to bring back pereira in January. Such a shame he decided to go on loan as I think he would have played a lot of games with the injuries we have had. And since we have struggled for creativity without pogba, I think he would have flourished.

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11 Dec 2017 18:02:47
good draw for you as well JBLP. I expect strong showing from the english teams this year. Could be all that we are playing for with City almost certainly winning the league.

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11 Dec 2017 11:17:56
Agree with that nou. Not as if we haven’t spent a huge amount either. We haven’t invested well enough. Lukaku was a poor signing and yes he may score get 20 goals this year. But he hasn’t done it in any of the big games. I saw a stat this morning that van persie scored 7 goals against the so called top 6 rivals. Lukaku has 0 in 5 games. If we want to win the league we have to be beating the big boys and not hoping to scrape a lucky goal on the break. The number 9 at united has to stand up and show that they are big enough to be there. Van persie did that. Lukaku has not and I do not think he has the personality to be our main man.

Going onto Jose. I actually think he has done a good job to get us to where we are at the moment. The improvement has been massive and we are a different team from the van gaal days. And pep inherited a better squad than Jose. But the style of football is not good enough. At least go for t and show some passion and have a go at teams. We looked scared yesterday and couldn’t string 4 passes together. That is not good enough for our club.

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10 Dec 2017 22:38:53
Agree completely Danny. The irony of us gifting two goals from set pieces is laughable. All I want to see is passion and determination from the players. It was a derby for Christ’s sake against our neighbours and title rivals. The players should have been harrying and pressuring city not giving them a moments rest. But instead we sat off and allowed them to play. We showed them so much respect and it is bitterly disappointing. The crowd played their part in creating a supportive atmosphere and the players and manager let us down today. What I saw today was not in keeping with the traditions of the club I love. City played the way we used to - with pace, creativity and passion. I have been Jose’s biggest supporter but today showed me that although we may win the league with him at some point, we will not do it in the United way. And that is not good enough for our great club. City have a long term plan and they are a club on the up. We have bought badly and our owners care about money. I would even say city are favourites for the champions league. What I saw today is one manager that lives and breathes a creative and beautiful brand of football. And I saw another that is happy to sit back and ‘hope’ for a mistake. That is the difference between the two sides. One manager see the beauty of the game whilst another see it in a more pragmatic way. We do not have bad players we have some fantastic skilful young players. If rashford and martial were playing under pep they would be flourishing like sterling and sane. It’s painful to admit but they have a manager who we should have signed after Fergie.

Where is our ambition? Where is the united of old? It died the day Fergie left. The club needs to take a hard look at itself if we want to get back to the top. We must invest in January and we must back the manager in the summer. I am sure after a few days I will be able to be less emotional and more objective of the situation. We must take each game as t comes and keep on winning. And then we must pray that our rivals do us a favour. Because that is what it will take for us to even have a chance.

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10 Dec 2017 21:39:44
Well said Danny can’t argue with that.

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10 Dec 2017 18:35:48
Agree with all of that luke. He’s not good enough.

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