22 May 2025 10:32:18
Think people need to wake up and lower expectations we haven’t been one of the biggest clubs for over a decade yet we talk like we are and we talk like we are still in the Fergie era.


That is long gone, we are an average squad that give well below average performances, the culture and environment is toxic not only within the club but outside the club aswell,

You can see it with players like Garnacho coming out and giving stupid interviews and sharing posts on twitter, there is a reason we are so poor and it’s far from the manager.

This squad has been built by multiple managers to fit systems that non of them can play, yet here we are again (some) calling for the managers head again.

But if we actually take the emotion out of it last nights game we should have won, spurs had 3 shots all game and the one big chance they had they scored through some diabolical defending yet again from players that should have been sold and replaced 5 years ago.

Are inability to do what’s needed is one of the reasons we are so low. Yet people call for change year in year out and when we have someone that’s trying to do it the first thought it’s get him gone when he said himself when he joined it is going to get worse before it gets better.

He has shown the limitations of the majority of these players.

The same people that were calling for ten hag to go because he had no style of play, he had no authority, had no backbone to make the hard calls yet here we are again calling for his head when that is what he’s trying to do.

This is the same group of players that lost 14 games in the prem last year, and finished on -1 goal difference.

Winning that fa cup was the worst thing that happened last season, yet again it papered over the cracks, then they gave a guy everyone wanted gone 200 plus million to then sack a few months later

To then hire a guy who didn’t want to come till the summer, bought him one 20 year old kid and expected him to make miracles

I Gurentee with ten hag we wouldn’t have got out the group phase never mind the final.


This squad is not fit to play in any system, they don’t have the balls or desire to want to work and win, whose fault was it last year when we played multiple systems?

Who fault was it the year before that?

I say it quite a lot but look at pep when he took over city, they had not long just won a title, they were getting beat most weeks and only finished 4th on good

But did he change his way of playing to suit players that wasn’t fit to play it? No he replaced those players and stuck to his principles

He got rid of the rot and the ones that were bad for the morale and the rest is history.

I’m not saying Amorim is the second coming of pep but we need to wake up this squad is the worst united team in the last 60 years. yet somehow we have managed to win some trophies and get to finals there is no consistency with this team.

And it’s the same players every week…

We have a Harry Kane or an isak up top last night and we win the game, if even go as far as having Vardy up top and we win that game.

The players just aren't very good and they haven’t been for years, with any manager.

Ineos need to give him the players to fit his system and he needs to be given time.

And they need to be ruthless for any player that doesn’t fit his system needs to be replaced.

But I’m still sticking by if we get a new front 3 we look and perform miles better next season

Anyway rant over… thank god there’s only 1 game left of the season ??.

{Ed025's Note - you make it sound that with a couple of good forwards you then turn into a good team Bolger, please tell me besides Bruno and possibly Harry who has had a good campaign this season?, lets be realistic mate..

1.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 11:06:58
So Amorim gets pass because they players are bad.

Garnacho, Hojlund and Mainoo have significantly regressed under RA. As bad as Hojlund has been he is better than his level and we have seen him play well under EtH.

I think the responsibility of a team ultimately lies with the coach. It’s their job set up, select and motivate a group to win a match. RA has failed.

I also think it would be a huge mistake to buy players to suit this formation. Mainly as even after a significant period of time a team of mainly international footballers cannot demonstrate and unique value or potential in the style.

If it was me I’d hold him to his suggestion of leaving without compensation and hire Frank.

2.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 11:10:30
Woulda, shoulda, coulda

I just don't see it.

3.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 11:39:59
I don’t think there’s much doubt that with a couple of forwards we’d score more goals. Though we need much more than that. I am finally in the camp that wants most of them gone. Attitude is our biggest problem. It’s been that way for a while. That is senior players in retirement mode. Get rid.

4.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 11:59:21
You are right we aren't a big club which is why we don't have a kane or isak. But we wasted money on zirkzee and hojlund rather than go for a Watkins or a Richarlison.

He should be getting more out of the team regardless of system. That's what management is.

It will get worse before it gets better. Impossible to know for sure but computer algorithms based on amorims results shows that without the points earned by ten hag and rvn we would have been relegated if amorim had been in charge all season.

5.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 12:01:08
Hojland scored 10 goals last season not exactly a top striker return is it and how many on here have said he’s not good enough.

I’ve seen better Sunday league strikers. He is awful.

Not saying he gets a pass but he’s come into a team that doesn’t suit his style after he said he wanted to come in the summer and he’s been given 1 player a 20 year old kid.

But let’s get rid of him keep the same team that’s under performing every season.

Think you need to judge him with a few players and a full pre season.

6.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 12:01:28
If we lower expectations anymore, we would literally be in the championship lol.

7.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 12:02:24
Bolger, it needs more than just a front 3; otherwise, I agree with you fully.

8.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 12:07:28
UTD Road, what on earth makes you think that Frank would want to leave a club where he's doing a grand job, or any other manager, to leave and want to join us?
To simply say "and hire Frank" is so pretentious and arrogant, it's beyond believable!

9.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 11:31:56
Not at all Ed, but we don’t score goals, you can't win a game if you don’t score and it’s shown consistently this season.

For example if we had the front 3 of rashford cavani greenwood when ole was manager we would be miles better off.


Make no mistake the whole team has been poor, not one single player has been good enough but there’s been games where we’ve lost when we’ve conceded first after we should have scored ourselves.

You score first it’s a totally different game.

It highlighted it yesterday, comical defending for such a poor goal to concede, but we had chances before and after to score.

We just don’t have the forwards that make the difference.

And Bruno had a decent little spell but he’s been poor, and players like Maguire should have been replaced years ago.

Because he’s got a few important goals people have changed their tone on him. Let’s make no mistake he is poor just like 90 percent of the squad.

And the players should be replaced before yet another manager imo.

He needs time. Regardless of where we finish on Sunday he needs to be given the players and time.

{Ed025's Note - being able to score is very important Bolger and the players you have are just not up to the task, but replacing them will not alone turn you into a decent side mate, all over the team there are weaknesses and for me there has been no improvement at all which is why for me the buck stops at the manager..

10.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 14:13:36
Because Frank was viewed as attainable.
It’s end of season.
He’s been a Brentford a while.
It’s Brentford.

It’s not arrogance, it’s a fact we’re a bigger club with pull.

Get over yourself.

11.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 17:36:38
Bolger

"I Gurentee with ten hag we wouldn’t have got out the group phase never mind the final"

You are talking Gibbrish. The hardest games in the group phases were away to Porto and away to the Turkish guys. I was there last night this is 10x worse than we played under eth. The team looks like someone has neutured them. Seen a lot of united teams live over the years this is the worst I have seen us play and these players or this squad are not the worse we have had even though some would like to say that.

Eth was blamed for everything but this guy seems to get a free pass after repeatedly sh. tting the bed and its teflon rubin its all someone elses fault according to some you .

Besides bruno and amad everyone else gone backwards this year compared to last and that's on the manager.

12.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 17:53:05
Utd Road, and right there is the arrogance of which I speak. Are you Maize?
?.

13.) 22 May 2025
22 May 2025 12:24:06
I agree Ed the players are not up to the task but I can’t judge him fully yet untill he’s got some players for his system and espically a forward line that can score a goal.

He’s done great getting us to the Europa final which I don’t think we would have got if ten hag was manager.

But imo I think if we get a better front line we improve along side a keeper. For me those are the main areas needed for a start.