12 May 2013 23:39:34
What a day. It's still not sinking in that Alex won't be here next year. Bringing back every memory of United I have had since the age of seven. What an amazing 20 years of joyous moments he has given me and many others. When he spoke today tears streamed down my face as the realization of this great era coming to end was there on the hallowed pitch of Old Trafford. And what a scene it was. Sadly I could not be there but it was wonderful occasion even to witness on TV. Now the memories of Cantona in the FA cup final against Liverpool, that night in Barcelona in 1999 and Robin Van Persie's wonder volley against Villa a few weeks ago will forever live as the epitome of the greatest era this club has ever known and the greatest manager we will ever know. We salute you boss, now have a wonderful retirement!
Red Rebel
Manchester United Banter Archive May 12 2013
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12 May 2013 22:10:23
Eds, who do you think will be David Moyes first summer signing? Thanks
Red devils 4 life {Ed004's Note - I am not sure. Probably the club targets that have been worked on for months. So Zouma, possibly Baines, Strootman, Di Maria, Rodriguez, Lewandowski etc}
12 May 2013 23:14:51
Ed who do you thinck david moyes realistic transfer targets will be
? {Ed004's Note - Im not sure probably the clubs targets so Zouma, Strootman, di Maria, Lewandowski etc possibly Baines.}
12 May 2013 23:05:24
Great and historic day.
Goosebumps at the reception given to Scholesy when he came off, and a lump in my throat during Fergie's speech.
Don't think it'll really hit home until the first game of the new season, and the great man isn't there on the touchline.
All the very best Sir Alex, thanks for the memories, and enjoy your retirement.
ps. big respect to the Swansea fans today. I was standing right beside them, and they were very gracious in their reception for Fergie, respectful of the occasion, and most of them to a man, stayed on to watch the trophy presentation.
12 May 2013 23:02:30
It has been a great day, days like this are days we shoud remember as you never know whether this will be the last. I waited many many years to be there in the Stretford end in May 93 when Blackburn came to town. Today the flags were a good idea and we did it right, one of the great occasions and we have been lucky to have a few.
Today I spoke to the other season ticket holders around me and none of them can understand the Moyes appointment but we all agree we are completely stuck with it and will get behind him. Saying that we all wonder if a day like today will happen for at least three years. In fact, enjoy today because you never know when it will happen again. It is interesting that SAF felt it necessary to mention supporting the new manager in bad times in his speech almost as if he expects bad times.
I have been critical of SAF at times but he has always put United first
Having watched our games this season there is a lot of work to be done with our team and I hope the owners buy the players this summer that gives Moyes a chance.
When I started following United winning the league was the impossible dream but Fergie made us believe it could happen and not just occasionally, for that I thank him
Red Man
12 May 2013 23:35:27
No he doesn't expect bad times but expects some to not get behind the manager as their still crying over the appointment.
I genuinely can't understand the outright negative attitude some fans have about Moyes. He has be doing an amazing job with Everton for the last 11 years. Not even Alex could have won a league title with Everton's resources. In that time Portsmouth and Wigan are the only two clubs below Everton's level to win the FA cup. So all this talk of him winning nothing cannot define the whole story. I am not suggesting that Moyes will be an immediate success but given some time to settle next season I think he can build a great new era of his own at Old Trafford. We must be realistic enough to realise that he is never going to better the achievements of the man he is replacing but can still become another great United manager in his own right.
Red Rebel
I am a little bit concerned that you and people around you can't understand the appointment of moyes mate. You might not agree with it but you can surely understand why we have gone for him. Evolution not revolution.
Did you see the reaction moyes got from the Everton fans today? Despite the fact he has chosen to go to a club most Everton fans despise. Surely that shows you what kind of manager he is.
Gds there's a lot of football fans not just utd who were a bit surprised at the appointment. its done now so I will get behind the new man as every fan should. being cynical moyes cost nothing in compensation with being out of contract where as all our other so called targets would of cost millions to buy out there contracts :)
johndenton
John,
Doesn't surprise me that you are cynical to be honest, you always are. I never said I wasn't surprised or that he was my first choice, but surely everyone can see the reason why it is moyes, that's all I am saying.
Exactly, not my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice, but he is here now and will be for some years. We need to get behind the manager and give him the best chance possible.
Sydney!
Please enlighten me with the reasons that I obviously can't see other than he is from glasgow and doesn't have any baggage :). like I said I will still be there next season and get behind the team but no one has put forward a reasonable case for, other than repeat what fergie has said.
johndenton
Why should we expand on what the great man has said?
He is a manager who will stay at the club for a long time, has worked his way up through the divisions and done a great job at Everton on a shoestring budget.
It might all go wrong and he might be useless, but there is a pretty good chance that he won't be. He knows how to manage a football team, and to be honest, if you gave me the 25 players he will have to work with next season I reckon I could get us into the top 2! As Fergie said, he has left the club in a great position and a smooth transition to a new manager is exactly what the club needs.
12 May 2013 22:59:06
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I've been a Liverpool fan since 1971 at the age of 5. United have always been the enemy. But, today, hatchet buried, I want to add my respect for Sir Alex as possibly the greatest manager ever (alongside Paisley, of course).
Redfin
12 May 2013 22:51:55
Hey guys,
Just wondering if Rooney is sold are we going to get to replace him with lewandowski or is that really a done deal to bayern?ed002/Sydney/fresh/ed004?i think we are in for a big summer with everything that's going on and the player at the moment that I think looks pretty certain is strootman. after that I really don't know but would like lewandowski, strootman and maybe a defender and a winger?realisticaly who do ye think/know will sign?thanks
I am obviously not at the level of fresh for the gossip (lol) but we can safely say that nobody knows exactly who we are going to sign.
What we do know for sure is that we have been looking at lewandowski for a long time, as well as strootman, and that di Maria has been contacted in the last week.
I would imagine if we get lewandowski that suddenly Rooneys transfer request might have a different answer.
12 May 2013 22:50:54
Wow what a day,
Sir Alex you are a legend. 38 years I have been a United fan and it has been a wonderful journey.
Thanks for everything Enjoy your retirement!
12 May 2013 22:41:11
I thought Anderson looked good when he came on, gave us some drive. Shame he's so infuriating.
Yeah I thought Anderson looked good too. You wouldn't think he would even make the bench if he is carrying loads of fat?. but he sure looks big!
Dave
I don't understand this haha! He wouldn't be allowed to play if he wasn't within certain percentages! I think he is quicker than people give him credit for.
Ste.
12 May 2013 22:37:47
Something I don't think anyone has mentioned is we've had twenty different scorers this season. One man team?
12 May 2013 22:29:38
Any chance of a straight swap involving Lewandowski and Rooney?
12 May 2013 22:14:15
Just a suggestion or an idea.
Since players get to have testimonials for being at clubs for 10 years, like Rio is to have one, woud it not be right for Fergy to have one himself?
When he anounced his retirement, there was really only a week to prepare, though really it was aimed at lifting the title.
Should the board consider giving Fergy a real send off by having match with past and present players available?
melwing28
I think that would be a super idea mate!
Don't know what the situation is. Maybe he could manage the Utd v Madrid legends match at Old Trafford.
That would be a good I think.
He had a testamonial years ago
Invisible Stuey
12 May 2013 22:11:12
I think we need to sell Rooney, he's been crap for 2 seasons now, he has lost his pace and seems to loaf around playing simple passes sideways and not creating anything, invariably giving the ball away putting us on the back foot.
There have been a few small exceptions to his pattern of play this year, the goals v city at the Ethihad. His strike v Norwich and the pass for rvps volley, (can't remember if he scored v Chelsea?) but he is not the player he was, he goes missing in big games and has been a flop for England. I've been saying this for ages, people are rating him on memories of how he was, he is not the same player anymore, we need to sell him and buy a world class replacement, Wayne Rooney is not world class.
I just think he looks tired, and sloppy. He doesn't work hard enough and has reacted very badly to what is quite reasonable criticism of him this season, and I think he struggled with RVP becoming the 'main man'.
As much as I'd love Rooney of a few years ago in the team, I can't see him finding that form, so there are plenty of players that I would rather have in the team.
Have to say, I don't think his treatment of the club in the last couple of years has been good, a bit disrespectful if anything.
I know he's hasn't played well this season, but he scored around 30 goals last season and pretty much him and valancia got us to 2nd place last season
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12 May 2013 21:54:40
What a great manager Sir Alex has been and what a great day we have had today. But how strange was that speech asking us to get behind a manager who hasn't even started yet. It is quite obvious that word has got back to the club how unhappy we are with the appointment of Moyes. I was thinking today as Swansea played attractive free flowing football causing us many problems. That is what happens when a good coach gets in charge of average players. Same with Southampton's manager another team who tactically were better than us this season. Then I asked myself has anyone ever said Hey Everton are tactically a great team who play good football. No they are a physically strong team who battle. Is that really what we are looking forward to. I just prey that he keeps hold of Rene as his no 2. If anyone can come on here and tell me about Everton playing tactically astute football. We have had the real thing in Sir Alex why would we want a watered down copy. Just because Sir Alex wants us to support him doesn't mean it will be ok
Have Everton not finished above both your mentioned attractive football teams.
Do us a favour
Dylan
Give it a rest or change the tune, if moyes wins league you will probably say how good appointment he was! He wasn't my first choice but the least you can do is support him.
Kloot, give him a chance! jeeze, I swear all your posts are either negative, pessimistic or making out like there is another agenda going on. it's boring mate
Did you see evertons first goal. Surely that was not bad football?
1994
12 May 2013 23:38:47
Anyone seen the film Red? I imagin Kloot to be just like John Malkovic's characher. Lol
Speak for yourself, KLOOT. There's plenty of fans very happy with the appointment. And did you see Everton's performance - and particularly their first goal - today?
I suppose now you can't snipe at Fergie "kow-towing" to the Glazers, you might as well start being negative about something else. {Ed007's Note - But there are also plenty of fans that feel the same as Kloot, so he isn't only speaking for himself. You can't use one performance and one goal to gauge anything, look at the past 11 years and teams that have won the domestic cups, Moyes has ONE Second Division title to his name. Sorry, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm with Kloot on this one, I honestly can't think of one positive regarding Moyes appointment.}
Here is one positive Ed. Being British at least we are not going to get some fancy foreign manager taking over our club and talking about his ambitous "project". That annoys me when they say that, you are representing a club and tradition and history not a bloody personal project! Apart from Mourinho and Klopp, really what over choices were there? Mourinho is obviously a fantastic manager, and I disagree with the "short term" theory as look at the clubs since Porto: Chelsea, Inter and Real, he has actualy lasted longer than most and I think he would have been here for the long term, though his personality doesn't fit the history of the club. Klopp I think is superb, but again his wacky flamboyant personality again probably doesn't fit the club (tho of course Big ROn was before Fergie). I can see why we have chosen Moyes, he is single minded, decisive and has a touch of class and humility about him. Whether he is good enough and big enough for the job remains to be seen, i'm not sure either way, but I think he has earned his chance and should be given support and a clean slate when he takes over to see what he does. I bet Kloot wanted Fergie out in his early days!
Invisible STuey
Kloot, when was the last time WE played free flowing football? let's be honest the attractiveness of the football and the tactics at United in the past three seasons have not been great, a sign that the manager was losing his magic touch slightly. I also think he was getting too attached to one or two players instead of being ruthless and selling them when they were past their best. I think it was a good time for the manager to step down as City, Chelsea & Everton will have new managers to next season, Arsenal probably next season. Time to stop the Moyes moaning now as we cannot change it. let's give him a fair chance and if he fails then there is grounds for complaint.
Sydney!
Here is one positive Ed. Being British at least we are not going to get some fancy foreign manager taking over our club and talking about his ambitous "project". That annoys me when they say that, you are representing a club and tradition and history not a bloody personal project! Apart from Mourinho and Klopp, really what over choices were there? Mourinho is obviously a fantastic manager, and I disagree with the "short term" theory as look at the clubs since Porto: Chelsea, Inter and Real, he has actualy lasted longer than most and I think he would have been here for the long term, though his personality doesn't fit the history of the club. Klopp I think is superb, but again his wacky flamboyant personality again probably doesn't fit the club (tho of course Big ROn was before Fergie). I can see why we have chosen Moyes, he is single minded, decisive and has a touch of class and humility about him. Whether he is good enough and big enough for the job remains to be seen, i'm not sure either way, but I think he has earned his chance and should be given support and a clean slate when he takes over to see what he does. I bet Kloot wanted Fergie out in his early days!
Invisible STuey {Ed007's Note - Anyone, player or manager that talks about a club as a 'project' needs a slap I agree, but surely the majority of managers would jump at the chance to manage Utd, at least Moyes was a cheap option and saved the club having to pay compensation. When you say he will be 'representing a club and tradition and a history', the club's history and tradition is winning/challenging for major honours, personally I think Utd will struggle to do that under Moyes. Look at even other team's supporters reactions to the appointment, it is hardly instilling a fear factor in them, to them Moyes looks like a chink in Utd's armour. Sorry to sound like a moaning git Stuey, I sincerely hope I end up with egg on my face over this, I can remember Moyes playing at Celtic and being a player/coach at Hamilton Accies, so I would like to see him doing well, I just have serious reservations whether he will.}
12 May 2013 21:50:41
SAF has confirmed Rooney has handed in a transfer requests - I think now is a good time to let him just go, if he doesn't want to be a part of Manchester United any more than let him go. I personally would prefer Lewandowski or Benzema anyway
12 May 2013 21:50:36
If, as is likely, Rooney is off who should we bring in? With Falcao off to Monaco and Lewandowski looking like he's off to Bayern, it does leave a lack of top class replacements. It might be better instead to sign two attacking wide flair players, one to replace Nani and one to replace Rooney, with the new pair and Kagawa playing behind van Persie. With Zaha, Powell, Welbeck and Hernandez all providing some cover. Might need someone extra though.
12 May 2013 21:46:52
Hate to say this but told you so. And I knew that Fergie never forgets. All you people who criticised me for having a downer on Rooney might just want to rethink their thoughts a little bit
No arguments here Kloot. I pray we move him quickly but given his wages and his current form, it will not be as easy as people might think.
Shahram
With all due respect KLOOT, you've hardly been a lone voice in the wilderness, mate.
12 May 2013 22:59:39
Kloot you talk like the whole website was against you. When in reality it was split fairly evenly down the middle. Quite a few of us have backed the idea of selling Rooney for footballing reasons. We all knew that Fergie would have the last laugh, he always does. Its not like you have some secret knowledge.
All bow down to kloot, nobody else in the history of the site has suggested we should sell Rooney lol.
Something nobody has picked up on, which was the best comment made by Fergie regarding Rooney was that a fit and in form Rooney wouldn't be left out of games. I think now the time IS right to move him on after another transfer request as nobody is bigger than the club. A great shame though, he has been a very good player for us, but at the same time I remember his debut and really thought we were witnessing the beginning of an all time great at the club, again sadly only one season has he consistantly produced his talent, he may not have been a great role model at the club, but he has been a very good player
Invisible STuey
12 May 2013 21:30:09
what a sad day! hope the greatman has a fantastic retirement! how classy is the club we love so very dearly? couldn't make it to the game today but will be up from cardiff tomorrow for the parade!
LP
12 May 2013 21:27:34
Fergie. absolute world class from the moment Robin's banged the goals in to beat us to save your job you've been fantastic for World football. Rangers/Forest Supporter!
12 May 2013 21:04:10
My highlight of the day was definatley sir Alex lifting the trophy, his interview at the end with Geoff shreeves and of course rio's superb finish! So glad to see him score but on the great man's final match we all knew there would be late drama! Thank you sir Alex!
12 May 2013 21:02:01
I know it's highly unlikely, but if Ronaldo did come back to United, do you guys think he could play as an out and out striker when he hits 31/32? I believe he could have the qualities to do so, as his finishing is second to none! Although unlikely, a man can hope can't he!
El Diablo
12 May 2013 20:47:18
Can I just say as we are getting to that time of the year again. Can people start posting teams on the team page instead of writing them down in lists on here as it would be better to look at and would get more views on the team page. I like to see formations etc.
12 May 2013 20:37:33
Sir Alex Ferguson will be missed. Good luck Moyes.
Liverpool fan
12 May 2013 20:37:25
What a brilliant day for this football club. It has been sad but historic at the same time. I honestly cannot imagine another club would ever do a better job than this. The performance wasn't the best but we got the late win, the speech was fantastic, the stadium looked incredible and the atmosphere was electric. The only bad thing was the Great British weather! Today we should be thinking about Fergie and what the future holds for the club. Forget Rooney for now, he is no longer important to the club, we will move on. Today is not the day for Rooney dramas. Today is the day for celebrations of Manchester United and out great boss. Here is to a long and happy retirement boss.
12 May 2013 20:24:56
i wish fergie a very happy retirement, he deserves it, a great manager.
can I ask man u fans what they think of moyes as new manager. I was shocked myself.
B O H
I expected it. Fergie has sung his praises for years and I have to say I am pretty excited as I think he deserves his chance and could become very successful. The one thing I am concerned about his what type of player and player quality he will be trying to bring in to the club.
12 May 2013 20:24:07
I hope everyone can now see why Rooney needs to be shipped out. When a top class player looses his place he takes a look at why and does everything to get back to the top. Rooney's response is that of a petulant child, instead of working hard to make himself indispensable again, he demands a transfer. A few years back Rooney thought he had outgrown us, now the club has outgrown him. Good riddance to him, his arrogance, and his massively unwarranted wages.
Take a look at RVP and his comments about Fergie, I'm glad that we have such a top class player and personality for the club club. He is everything Rooney will never be, a genuine role model for our younger players.
Danny Pughnited
Moyes needs to show authority as soon as he comes in and get Rooney out of the club. The only concern is how much will we get for him. We've all noticed the drop in his performances, so no doubt the top teams have also seen it.
I'm concerned we may be stuck with him.
I would ship him out for £30million and get in Di Maria, Baines, Strootman and Lewandowski.
Gagus I agree. The issue with moving him is that not too many clubs will pay his wage demands maybe none.
I am trying to remember if we have ever had a case like this before but can't think of one.
He told the whole world about the transfer request and also said we have rejected it. He is done with the fans as far as a I concerned and I can't see how he can stay.
I wonder if this was Fergie's way of making sure there was no chance of a U Turn like last time :) and who gets the last laugh.
At the medal ceremony you could not miss how he did not greet him like the rest of the players.
Shahram
GAGUS Rooney will go no worries about that cause he is a brand an not the sort of brand we need at our club good riddance I say
CAIN
Shahram
Good to see, you are probably the only one who isent bitter about it and has the class to wish him the best. You have always wanted him gone for footballing reasons. You still stick to it #Respect#
Deeps.
Deeps
My loyalties are always with the club and like many have some favorite players but the unfortunate truth is they all have to go at sometime.
Rooney has served his time with us and it is time he goes because I agree with the manager, his form has not been good for whatever reason and not just this year but also last year even though his stats were great.
On a similar note we had one of our greatest players today retire and has always been one of my favorites but not good enough anymore.
I am also going to back the new manager and actually rate him so apologies to everyone for not joining the doom and gloom club.
Shahram
Shahram
We have our favourites. But the club supercedes anyone and everyone, even Sir Alex. Yes I will back Moyes and hope he carries on from where SAF has left. I would most certainly not join the doom gloom club. Rooney has been there for 9 years now, pretty long time for a young player. Did his best, sometimes carried the team on his shoulders and gave it his all. Best of luck if he goes. United moves on.
Deeps.
12 May 2013 20:12:50
On another note, is it just me, or does Dwight Yorke look just as young as he did, when he played for United?
Lol he doesn't age does he?
Ha ha! I agree. I've met him a few times with Brian Lara and he looks still in shape. He doesn't look big on camera but he's well built still. I was surprised how built he was. Brian Lara did look chubby though!
Adz
12 May 2013 20:11:09
EDs, a few weeks ago we were discussing the possibility if we get Lewy, that Rvp will play behind in the hole. if I remember correctly you were worried that he would slow the game down a bit but has a better footballing brain that Wayne etc? today though he played there and I thought he did pretty well. much more involved and given the license to roam and create and make our attack a bit more fluid with players interchanging. so I think really if we do get lewy, we would only need one winger to play in off the right as otherwise where would kagawa play? I think a front four of rvp, lewy, kagawa and possibly rodriguez? ronaldo? bale? would be pretty sweet. thoughts? {Ed004's Note - I agree there were a few very good flicks from RVP and Kagawa did well when he was cutting in. For your suggestion to work I really think we have to have a strong midfield to supply RVP as he won't do the same amount of running as Rooney and we need a very good left back willing to get up and Down! the pitch.}
Yer I agree, would need a good hard working player to partner Carrick (Strootman? etc. ) and Baines down the left, then I think it would work out. this could all become a possibility too, if we sell Wayne, but all depends on Moyes of course. thanks though ED {Ed004's Note - Yes I reckon it could work but still not 100% on playing RVP there as it might leave us a little open. I would personally prefer the club to go out and try sign Rodriguez/Lamela and Ozil. Then a fluid 3 of Rodriguez, Ozil, Kagawa and RVP supported by Carrick and Strootman and still sign Baines to provide width. I reckon Kagawa and Baines could form a better partnership than Piennar and Baines and that was a joy to watch at the beginning of the year tbh}
Ed - I could not agree more, Baines for me is a necessity for the team to improve then for me RVP has to play up top where he is at his best with Carrikc and Strootman in the centre and the 3 behind RVP of Ozil/Di Maria, Kagawa and Rodriguez/Gaitan. {Ed004's Note - That would be one hell of an attack though I can't he but think we will miss Rooneys drive when the games get tough}
12 May 2013 20:10:36
Today we gave an amazing send off to THE greatest manager of all time. What a great afternoon it was but very sad also.
Wayne Rooney tho, should bow his head in shame and f*ck off from our great club now. Absolute disgrace, to ask for one transfer is stupidity but to do it again is unforgivable. For SAF to have to answer questions about that little scouse tw*t on his big day makes it a million times worse.
I don't care how good he was in the past, this year he has been fat, unfit and uninterested. He is a disgrace as a professional footballer and I couldn't care less if I never see him in our famous red shirts ever again. Get the £25-30m in our bank and let's get someone who is proud to wear our shirt. We don't need players who are full of their own self importance, who think they are something they most certainly arent. He should look at the RVP's, Ronaldo's, Giggs' and Scholes of this world, they are the real professionals.
Brendan81
He's a thick scouser, what do u expect?
Nomidfield
As much as I love wazer I totally agree with you, let's move on as united, god bless.
BIGAL REDFOREVER
Rooney has been a very good player for this club, not a great one but a very good one nonetheless. I don't think bar one season he has ever quite reached the levels consistantly to be mentioned as a great or in the same breath of the Ronaldos and Messis of this world, but I think the comments here are a bit vitriolic.
I said months ago when there were rumours of Rooney being moved on for £20-25m, who would you replace him with for that fee?
However, no player is bigger than the club, and bearing in mind this is the second time he has asked for a transfer and his form in line with his salary, I think it is the right time for both parties to part and look to the future. I would like to see Rooney go abroad and get back to somewhere near the form of before, would be good for England. Thanks for the memories Wayne, you have been a good player for this club. A good professional and role model, maybe not, and sadly not a great, which you really could have been. Moving forward, who would you replace him with though? The last big English player moved on by the club was David Beckham and we went and replaced him with a super talented future world star and gave him the 7 shirt. This is the type of signing I would like to see, though my knowledge of such players is very scarce, but an Adam Maher, Quintero, Vilhena being examples of some very talented names that could become world stars in a couple of years, at this time £30m for Rooney being spent on such a player and a defender like Zouma is a good deal to me, add one or two central midfielders and couple of new wingers with Nani and Anderson (sad to say as he could be so good) moving on and the summers net spends to replace Rooney, Scholes, Nani and Anderson + more doesn't have to be that big with incoming money
Invisible STuey
Needs a fresh start. Fair enough. Good luck to him, we move on as well. But I guess people love being bitter. Till he has been here, hez on field performances have certainly been passionate enough to tell everyone that he has played for the shirt. Given us 9 years and countless wonderful moments. Held fort when pretty boi Ronaldo jumped ship. Now if he thinks he needs a new challenge, so be it. Players of his stature have previously moved on. Lol, Ronaldo in the same breath as Giggs, Scholes? Which club does he play for laD? He will never be a legend. I think you would find Ronaldo and the terms self importance more in context than Waynes. If he does go, Good Bye and Good Luck Wayne! Thanks for the ride.
Deeps.
Lot of us here know more than Robson and G Nev, seems? I would want him to go if he does not want to stay, but calling him names and undermining his importance is childish. Neville made a very very good point. And Robson thinks, it should be Moyes' first priority to help Rooney stay put. Wonder why they think like this?
Deeps.
Maybe Robson won't have a go at Rooney because he is Uniteds Global Ambassador, maybe Neville won't as he played with him and coaches the England team. These 2 aren't going to have a go at him are they? Come on let's talk sense. He has crossed the line AGAIN and it's time to get as much as we can for him.
Ronaldo went to play for his boyhood club like we would if we played elsewhere and United came calling, you can't compare that to Rooney. Did I say Ronaldo was a legend? Don't think so. He's a far better player and professional than Rooney tho, on a totally different level to him and that is fact as the fat waiter would say.
Brendan81
STuey
Maher would be a great buy for the future. I have not seen much of the other 2.
Shahram
You really think Robbo of all people will play around with words and make things up just because he is a global ambassador for United? You have to think again. Gary Neville if you remember has not spared Wayne in the past this season in terms of in your face criticism. So not sure where you are going with that? Wanting to play for your boyhood club, is equal to not wanting to play for your current club and seeing it as a stepping stone/stop gap. Yes he is a better player than Wayne Rooney, that I give you. But a very very selfish one. Remember him saying " He is sad at Madrid"? So I am saying he can't be mentioned in the same breath as Giggsy/Scholsey.
You wanted him to go right? So when he requests (verbally) to leave, why are you calling him names? Isent it what you wanted all along? And it was SAF who broke the news on his last home game day, not Rooney, so not sure how Rooney f**ked the ocassion up? If he wants to go so be it, we paid his wages, he won us trophies. Thank you and Good bye. Some will miss him and some wont. But saying "i don't care what he has done previously", am not sure about that though. Anyways, I hope this doesent drag out and we get a quality quality replacement.
Deeps.
12 May 2013 20:09:18
If united do get rid of Rooney. I don't think we need another striker this year not atleast our. priority unless its a steal eith lewandowski. we still have Van persie, Welbeck and Hernandez (even Kagawa). We need to get rid off one attacking player to get more balance, this is evident when their strikers are playing out of position (wingers). We need to improve midfield (CM and WInger {bale} or romaldo even di maria will do the job.
In my honest opinion, the arrival of Kagawa messed things up at united (in terms of balance), him and Rooney are similar players, and personally I fell that Rooney is the better player when fit but he's lost a lot of. pace and isn't ready or bothered to go back in shape. But not saying kagawa cannot be better then rooney because he has the potential to be just that.
In conclusion him or Kagawa needs to pave way for the other, don't think it will be kagawa so if Rooney wants to go, so be it. There are a lot of. players out there that would jump at the chance to. play for Manchester United especially. on the wages Rooney is currently getting.
Singh {Ed004's Note - The thing is Kagawa can play out wide left and cut in he has played well there recently. I'm hoping the club surprises us and signs Ronaldo/Ozil to replace Rooney}
Ed I hope so too that would replace the big name rooney is and the players you mentionedare better then rooney and would take us to the next level. I reckon once he is sold its highly plausible that one of those players could arrive if the ambitions of the club is same as supporters and I don't see no reason we shouldn't expect players of that calibre.
Singh
I firmly believe that we will not have Rooney here next season. I think Moyes will eye up to 5 players with up to 5 leaving. That is a reasonable transition for a new manager to make. Rooney, Nani, Anderson, Lindegaard are odds on to leave but one of Ferdinand or Evra could depart. Personally I think it will be Evra. As for ins, I think that Ronaldo could be the big deal, McCarthy, Fellaini, Baines & Lewandowski are all on Moyes list. Perhaps Strootman or Moutinho also. Moyes I hope will bring in a new forward, 2 cm's and a left back though, that will really bolster the team.
I agree that if Rooney goes we do not need a striker. I would prefer us to sign Di Maria, Strootman, Baines, Zouma and Gaitan. Instead of going and spending £50 million on Falcao or someone.
Fresh
Moutinho was brilliant yesterday and the best player on the pitch for Porto.
Shahram
12 May 2013 19:44:48
So now rooney's put in a transfer request, do you reckon he will be sold in part of a deal to another club like madrid?
I would take any of the following in an exchange deal and drive him myself to the airport: Benzema, Ozil, Modric, Di Maria.
The problem is I don't think they would want him. Their entire game is based on pace and he has lost his.
Shahram {Ed004's Note - Or Ronaldo!}
Ed004 Ronaldo sounds too far out of reach unless and we can't afford the transfer but would be unbelievable if it happened.
Shahram
A dream deal that would never happen is Rooney + Nani + £40 million = Ronaldo + Di Maria. It would drastically improve our team with a front 4 of Di Maria, Kagawa, Ronaldo and RVP. We can all dream!
Modric, ozil or Ronaldo will be good.
Nomidfield
12 May 2013 19:18:15
As always, we usually send our best player to Real Madrid. Rooney to Real Madrid and get something in exchange?
Would Madrid want the fat lump?
12 May 2013 19:15:35
Salford Truth {Ed004's Note - Stop wth the provocative posts}
12 May 2013 20:49:43
Sorry if you can't handle the truth.
12 May 2013 19:10:37
Well it's been confirmed Rooney has asked to leave. Edds How much do you think we will get for him if we sell him and who do you think we will replace him with? {Ed004's Note - Hoping for around 30 million and I reckon it will be Lewandowski. Would love Ozil though or Rodriguez/Ronaldo and Kagawa playing centrally}
12 May 2013 19:09:49
I know this probably wouldn't happen.
But with Arsenal rumoured to be after Rooney for £25 million we should just say:
No cash just a straight swap for Wilshire.
As I say wouldn't happen but that's what we should say to Arsenal.
So they must send over their best player and future of the club for our fat lump of grown child?
12 May 2013 18:53:52
Sir alex just confirmed Rooney asked for a transfer. I think this is it Rooney has to go, just can't think of anyone who earns nearly 50 times as much as me if not more and doesn't have the desire to stay at the club or go back into shape and has the balls to request a transfer. Truly dreadf no matter what he's done for the club but he's been a spoilt brat and don't need him in the team. he could easily be replaced and I am sure he will know once he's moved away. Hell know what he's left behind. Players like hernandez is on 1/4 of the wage but has so much passion for the club its just disgusting.
Singh
You do alright earning £260,000 a year mate ;)
Lolll I mean devide that by another 10 times lolll I knew there was somethjng wrong with the calculation but you know what I mean lol
Singh
12 May 2013 18:53:20
So Rooney decided he wanted to leave Christmas time. That explains everything this season then.
Will he go? I think he will and he will regret making this decision.
Where did you here that he decided to leave at xmas time?
Fergie was the one who decided at xmas time
12 May 2013 19:02:04
it wasnt xmas time it was a couple of weeks ago,
it was fergie who decided to retire at xmas time
big v
Pretty Obvious he wants to join his 2 pals Terry and Cole and Chelski next season sell him the person.
MANRED
No, sir alex decided in December! Rooney asked informally a few weeks ago.
That is it, SAF just confirmed Rooney has asked to leave. I hope we get good money for him and ship him out as soon as possible. Good of SAF to come out and disclose it and not leave moyes looking like the manager who sold Rooney. I wish the boy well and we will keep going forward.
Shahram
Fergie decided to go at xmas not rooney m8 listen to interview again lol
No, Fergie decided to retire at Christmas.
I think he was sayin he (fergie) decided to go at christmas not Rooney asked to leave at Xmas
Oh goodness me, sorry guys.
Wasn't listening too good you see too busy celebrating with my family!
Either way, he is going and I hope he doesn't stay like everyone on Sky was saying. Bring in somebody young and raring to win us games.
Jake he is as good as gone. They are always going to say we turned it down to be able to negotiate a higher transfer fee and making sure that this is not kindergarden and players can't behave this way.
For everyone who thinks it's Armageddon, how many players have we had that after they left we actually missed.
Ronaldo does not count as he is unique a once in a generation type player and Rooney is no Ronaldo.
I wonder if Lewy picked Bayern instead of us. Falcao suddenly does sound plausible, which I never thought it to be possible.
Shahram
Sharam Falcao's going to Monaco.
Lewy hasn't turned us down yet.
12 May 2013 18:46:54
What a manager
What a man
Simply the best.
Youve earned your rest Sir Alex thankyou
TheSpartanred
12 May 2013 18:27:33
I wanted to say a few words. I haven't had the health to take an active part in the forum for a while. though I've kept up to a degree. nice to see so many things don't change. it epitomises the spirit of Manchester United. The family no matter the disagreements there is an undercurrent ever present of unbreakable unity I'm proud to have been a part of. I've not missed a game all season and its kept me going. I absolutely love this club and the spirit that drives it and of its people
and as I sit here watching as Sir Alex gives his speech whatever faults a few of you may focus on. He absolutely does epitomise the nature of the club. and he's not let anyone around him forget the importance of the history and pride well deserved and earned that he picked up the baton from and reinstated us as we should be. in the top elite of the world playing in a style that genuinely wowed on many occasion.
people may think that the commercial aspects are monsterous but without the heart that drives it it woudnt have a leg to stand on and Alex again whatver fault he has has represented what this club is about and is owed a great deal of respect. you can't be loved by everyone but that man is loved and respected by many unflinchingly and deservedly so. you would do yourself no harm in basing your approach to life in how he approached it. hard work and heart make for the greatest of accomplishments in all of history and he is a greatly accomplished man and I will greatly miss him. He was a father like to all who loved him including me.
thx for you Sir Alex. we are truly fortunate fans to have been on this journey with so many great great memories
and finally for my favourite player of all time without question Paul Scholes. becks corner scholes volley. legend
somewhere down the line if we don't realise it already, we'll know how good we had it in this 26 year era.
. constantine.
Here here, we will never see the same again.
Hope you are feeling better Constantine
Brendan81
12 May 2013 18:25:31
Enjoy your retirement SIr Alex Ferguson and thanks for the memory's. also good luck to DAvid Moyes. let's get behind the new manager of our GREAT football club.
Redchad
12 May 2013 18:10:07
Words from Sir Alex: "You've got to get behind OUR new manager" and I think everyone should, all I see on here is people saying how he's not suitable because he hasn't won trophies, well nows his time.
Could not agree more. We are united and we will get behind David. 21st coming up!
12 May 2013 18:04:17
LFC fan here, massive respect to Alex Ferguson, without doubt up there with our greatest of Shankly and Paisley. At the same time I'm very happy to see the back of him now, thank god he was a one of kind.
Jud.
12 May 2013 18:03:29
I hope noone on this page defends Rooney it was made clear today he has no future at the club the Cretin was not even down for the Manager's speech timee to move on Wayne.
RED91
None of the players not in the first team squad today were there for the managers speech, should we get rid of smalling too?
It was made clear by fergie from what I could tell that we are not going to sell him. I have felt for months that he is going, why else would we be looking to sign lewandowski? He has to either sign a new contract on less money or leave, I am guessing it will be the latter.
12 May 2013 18:00:06
I just cried, don't know how to explain the feeling but love this guy (fergie), never be another like him. not enough words to describe him. Just typing this makes me want to cry for what he did for the club is just truly remarkable.
Singh
I'm with you Singh, wasn't even bothered about the trophy presentation tbh. SAF is and always will be the greatest manager of all time. We will miss you SAF, thank you
Brendan81
Same it made me cry watching fergie speak. Could not look at the tele thinkin the greatman is not going to be here next year as a manager. can't think of anyone that has dedicated so muuch into something they truly adore. he's a perfect example to lots of managers.
Singh
12 May 2013 17:44:06
Alot of you Manchester utd fans must be saying to yourselves why couldn't have sir Alex have retired last year, paving the way for that totally amazing manager Brenda Rodgers to take the helm
Perth!
Oh Dear, look forward to giving you boys and your manager a thrashing next year. Good luck fighting for 6th place next year.
Shahram
A thrashing with the mighty David Moyes at the helm? You need to wake up and take your head out of your cornflakes mate, be under NO illusion kiddo you have replaced a football genius with a very average manager; your good squad will get you so far but don't for one minute think that it will be a continuation of what you have achieved with Fergie, the guy was a one off and Moyes in not capable of achieving the same level of success, once Moyes stamps his own ideas onto the team then you will start to struggle. Quite rightly Man Utd fans have dreaded this day and over the next couple of years you will find out why.
Jog on son, stop talking like your the almighty with knowledge others don't have.
Winds me up when people talk on here like they are speaking on behalf of the entire planet.
Lets see what happens shall we. I'm confident we will win more silverware under Moyes.
That's because your'e a deluded person. (fourth poster)
12 May 2013 17:20:48
I know it is SAF last game but Welbeck is a headless Chicken. Sorry to say just poor and zero composure.
Shahram
You should get your priorities right!
Ste.
Yeah I know but could not help seeing him run around with his head going the opposite way :)
Shahram
He is not good enough and is not improving at all. I am all for bringing talent through but you have to have it first! We could get £15 million for him and sign Baines!
12 May 2013 17:13:04
watch out next season for the three bandidos, the deadliest trio since the wild west, yes its
danielon hot shot sturridge.
luis el pistolero suarez.
philippe skill will kill coutinho.
ps, paul scholes, what a player, utd or not, one of the best english footballers of all-time.
Lfc this will probably be the first and the last time I agree with you.
Not the deadly trio joke.
The Paul Scholes part.
Don't know about that but obviously next year is your year lfc, your right about Paul Scholes although I'd have as one of thee best playmakers in my lifetime, I have him up there with zidane, platini and Xavi.
Supasub
Nice one Jake :)
shahram
Better than Xavi.
Ste.
Haha, the words "next season" sound a little bit familiar coming from a Liverpool fan.
12 May 2013 16:54:36
Eds, will rooney definately move in the summer or will moyes try to keep him? Thanks {Ed004's Note - I do not know}
12 May 2013 15:47:25
Going to be an emotional day lads, not just the loss of one legend, but two. The greatest manager the world has ever known, and arguably one of the greatest midfield players there ever has been, and ever will be.
Think you Sir Alex Ferguson, you were the best thing to ever happen to this football club, and hopefully your impact can follow on through to the future.
Also, thank you Paul Scholes. You have been the best midfield player we have ever had, and are likely to ever have. The ability that boy has is incredible, and one of the most humble footballers known to man.
All you need to do is ask Zinedine Zidane, "How does it feel to be the best midfielder ever. " to which he replied, "I don't know, ask Paul Scholes. "
Hopefully he gets a coaching role within the club, as he deserves it and could hopefully rub off some knowledge onto younger players.
Lets hope the lads and fans give Paul, and especially the boss a send off that they definitely deserve and are not likely to ever forget.
12 May 2013 15:16:32
James McCarthy looked really good again yesterday. Reports today that Spurs are considering a £10 million bid. However I am assuming this would only likely be the price if Wigan go down. Is there any interest from United Eds and if this was the price of the player would we approach him?
Eds many thanks for your efforts regarding this brilliant site, you Dow great job.
Paul {Ed004's Note - I don't know if there has been any interest in the player}
12 May 2013 16:39:24
Would be a good signing. Be good to beat Spurs as well. We could do with someone like him. Would still need another either Strootman or Fellaini.
Would be a good replacement for Fletcher.
12 May 2013 15:42:13
All about SAF today, but Scholes - such a legend. Of course he won't mind being in the shadow today but what a man he is.
12 May 2013 15:37:53
Who do you guys think Moyes will take with him to Man United
I think the obvious ones are Baines and Fellaini but I think Miralles would also be good as a winger
Mirallas has done well today
Brendan81
I think he is going to be a very good player.
Shahram
12 May 2013 14:53:16
Please if any of the ed or any other follower can confirm what's happening with will keane.? I kni he sustained injury but before it he was counted as special. What people or ed recon his future?
Also I m reading about uniteds said interest in kurt zouma than what future holds for michele keane and tom thorpe?
Rodio17 {Ed004's Note - I dunno what will happen with the youngsters.}
12 May 2013 15:28:28
Any word on why Rooney hasn't even made the match day squad?
RedDub
12 May 2013 15:27:20
I don't understand how people can say Everton play poor football!
Been watching them today and other games and they are playing much more faster paced than we do. A lot of quick 1, 2s and smart link up play.
It will be great to see this with the players we have.
-JakeW
12 May 2013 15:26:26
Wolves youngster McAlindon on the list of requirements for Moyes.
12 May 2013 15:22:13
No rooney in such a huge game. in name of saf final game. So we can say its nailed on to his departure.
Rodio17
Yep. If he has asked to leave as reported he is definitely gone which is my opinion.
We will probably get a statement after the game.
Shahram
I agree with you rodio we can finally say its the end of rooney.
No one can be blamed, Rooney shows no desire hands another request if that's what he's done.
Doent look after his physique can carry on for ever. But no point.
Lets just enjoy fergies last few games and stress about the players later on.
Singh {Ed004's Note - Would love utd to go for Ozil tbh}
Ed 004, I would be over the moon with Ozil, class player has all the attributes to be a manchester united player and would fill the void left by Rooney. All we would need is Lewandowski but that might be a bit greedy.
Singh
12 May 2013 15:20:10
rooney not even in squad, lokks like he's going, i'm gutted
BIGAL REDFOREVER
12 May 2013 15:19:34
Rooney not even in the squad, surely Sir Alex is teaching him a lesson or two?
12 May 2013 15:17:14
Rooney not in the squad, bye bye Mr Rooney
Brendan81
12 May 2013 15:15:47
No Rooney! Well that spells the end of his United career as far as I'm concerned.
Ianskip
12 May 2013 15:13:42
Rooney not in today's squad against Swansea, according to the BBC. He must be on his way out.
Mike B
12 May 2013 15:12:30
Is this the end of wayne rooney?
not even on the bench
scholes starts.
12 May 2013 14:13:56
Well guys the day has come, SAF's last home game :- (
I have to say, we may well be getting the trophy today but i'm not really looking forward to the game. I just know it is going to be sad when SAF makes his post match speech. The guy is a legend and I for one will have a tear in my eye watching and listening to the great man one last time at OT.
Thank you for everything SAF, enjoy your rest as you 110% deserve every minute of it. You have made every United fans life so much happier and we owe you everything.
Brendan81
12 May 2013 14:12:25
really hope vermijl gets a stop at rb today seen as though rafeal is susspended. its a game that wouldn't affect the relagation battles and would affect the champions league battles so I wouldn't understand why wed use smalling jones or valencia when we have a real talent coming through {Ed004's Note - Or Valencia at right back}
12 May 2013 14:03:26
Ed do you think we have a better chance of ronaldo coming back or di maria? {Ed004's Note - Di Maria probably}
12 May 2013 13:21:42
This might not be a popular shout but I think we should sign McCarthy and McManaman from Wigan. Especially if they do get relegated.
Totally agree, people have been knocking McCarthy on here all year, he is quality and will be better with better players.
McManaman destroyed Cliché (spelling) yesterday after he made our wingers look average.
A
I have been watching mcCarthy all season and the guy is 110% the perfect like for like replacement for michael carrick. mcManaman has not played enough games for a top player to buy him yet, and he doesn't seem to have a great cross but I hope he develops
scout.
12 May 2013 14:05:16
I think it depends on what we want from wide players. Do we want them to cross from wide or cut in and run at people. {Ed004's Note - I want them to cut in and the wing backs to provide the width. The reason it doesn't work for city IMO is a) their players do not work hard enough and b) when their wide players cross neither Aguero or Tevez offer any threat in the air whereas RVP and Rooney are both dangerous in the air}
Yeah i'd take McCarthy any day! I think he could only improve with better players around him. and his work rate is fantastic, something our midfield has lacked this season! A summer of him, Strootman, Baines and Di Maria would be fantastic I think. and I couldn't see it costing the world either!
12 May 2013 13:08:21
All the talk on signing players from Everton but no ones mentioned Mirallas. Would anyone take him? What i've seen of him so far this season he looks to have something and could flourish with better players around him.
I'm a big fan, he's direct and pacey and I think he can score goals! He's also very versatile.
No no and no
Maybe yes if Rooney leaves and we can't get Lewandowski or any better striker than him then I think he could be a very good squad player to have.
Ship out Nani and Young, and replace them with Mirallas and Rodriguez/Bale. I for one, would welcome that.
ZigZag
12 May 2013 13:05:09
Rene Meulensteen better stay for long period of time. He is pretty brilliant in tactics and helped a lot w/ our youth.
12 May 2013 12:58:38
rumours going around jones and rooney in training ground bust up, rooney dropped for todays game, rumours from well known socialising site, can you shed anything on this eds?
BIGAL REDFOREVER {Ed004's Note - no}
12 May 2013 12:30:22
Fuelling up in the Trafford, and swapping Fergie stories :)
12 May 2013 10:35:22
Hi Eds do you thinks that now fergie is leaving all transfer targets that we were looking are all thrown into limbo until Moyes takes over in july, and if that is the case will we end up loosing out on the likes of Strootman, Lewa, Ronnnie etc. Thanks {Ed002's Note - No.}
12 May 2013 13:03:43
having spent twelve months or longer scouting some of those players and possibly spending six months in negotiations I don't think we'll drop all interest now. Gill wants to leave on a high and leave his replacement with an easy start. I imagine Fergie thinks the same. My guess is Moyes has at some point been advised of transfer targets and has agreed. The positions we need to buy in hasn't changed. Nor has the potential targets. As an elite club there is only a certain pool of players we should be looking at not counting unknowns. From transfers point of view its no change.
12 May 2013 09:13:36
Hi edds
Do you think Nani will be sold this summer? If so who do you thnk will come in
Richmond {Ed002's Note - Read the posts please.}
12 May 2013 13:14:55
If we can find anyone daft enough to bid that he wants to go to then he's gone. However I see him trying to sit out his contract and move on a free.
12 May 2013 04:24:38
Ed002,
With some many rumours about top strikers moving clubs this summer, who do you see actually moving and which clubs are leading the hunt for who (cavani, falcao, and lewandoski)?
sorry if this is a bit vague.
TS87 {Ed002's Note - I don't have the time to summarise everything. Sorry.}
12 May 2013 08:08:55
Sad week this week, grateful for everything sir Alex and scholes gave us. The best manager ever and in my eyes the best English player ever. Worried, nervous, excited for the future hope moyes gets it right. Anyone think giggs will call it a day now because sir Alex has?
I hope Giggs goes now, time for a new start for him and the team. It's difficult to justify his inclusion now as his pace has gone and while he makes the occasional great pass he's not got the legs for midfield. His inclusion there has been a sad indictment of our lack of midfield quality this year. Great player but time to go.
I don't think giggs will get many games next season, and that he has been kept on mainly for his experience and impact in the dressing room, scholes taking up coaching role will help our youth no end, can see giggs becoming youth coach when he eventually retires and doing same as ole, maybe becoming Moyes eventual successor
Not at all. Giggs has shown on several occasions this year that he still has an important role to play. He will also provide some much needed stability in the dressing room at a time when everything else may appear to be changing. Go and read David James article on Sir Alex Ferguson and how he talks about the United players in England squads and Ryan Giggs. They are more than just players, they are ambassadors and are the yard stick that the younger players at the club should aim for.
TK-Red
Giggs on the left can still bring something to the team, when he's inside he's a liability
12 May 2013 07:11:27
Congratulations Wigan on beating citeh! and
winning the FA CUP! But with Wigan winning
this gives us a better chance of getting off
too a trophy winning start under Moyes
(just the community shield I know)
LP
What damage did that match do to city!
Imagine Kloots reaction to their season!
Be very careful what you wish for.
Dylan
12 May 2013 06:01:29
well at least 1 united player won the fa cup this season, 1 more than sh*tty