Manchester United Banter Archive September 09 2013

09 Sep 2013 22:01:36
Just seen Moons post about Berba, there's no denying he is a skilful player but do you think he could have been moulded into the midfield distributer or skilful AM we seem to be crying out for?

09 Sep 2013 22:30:47
no, while undoubtedly highly talented he does not show now and never did show it consistently over a long period of games,, in fact he never showed it consistently in 1 game. flashes of brilliance but he never showed the right mentality to be a true great

He was the laziest player I've seen for a long time. I never liked him due to his attitude. Waste of money.

Sorry Nomidfield he was worth every penny apart from something like 30 goals 1 season he got 3 at anfield so although he didn't do as well as he should he still brought something to the show

I think fulham fans are starting to think he is lazy now also. Great skill and ability but I wanted a bit more from him in some games.

It looks like he's been chain smoking all summer judging from the first few games of this season for Fulham. No doubting his talent but was just never prepared to dig in and go that extra mile.

The problem with Berbatov in my opinion was the manner he regarded certain duties. He never wanted to break on the counter and as a result slowed the game down to his own pace. This meant we couldn't utilise certain players to their best.

He was praised by all parties after his move to Fulham as he played with a spring in his step. He was quicker and eager all over the park.

Since th new year he has played deeper than usual for most of the game, with Ruiz coming on late and playing behind Berbatov. The team then plays better so Ruiz gets the praise.

A great player on his day but so terrible inconsistent for us. Yet still worth the money just for the hattrick!

09 Sep 2013 20:53:40
Not posted in a while, just wanted to add a few views.

Fellaini is a great player. Will add much needed steel in midfield, offers aerial threat from set pieces and works hard to get the ball back. But let's be honest he was a little overpriced.

The transfer window was abysmal for us. We went in for Garay, Coentrao, Baines, Thiago, Di Maria, Fabregas, Fellaini, Strootman(not sure if we actually did?), Cristiano Ronaldo (who knows?) and to a certain extent Ozil.

And we came out with just Fellaini, Valera(?) and Zaha joining up with the squad. Other than Fabregas and Ronaldo I think all the other players were easily achievable targets.

Whether it be the glazers pockets tightening or dithering in the market it was a huge failure so i'm not surprised rivals are having a good laugh. But lessons will be learnt.

Personally I think Woodward is useless.

09 Sep 2013 19:25:23
Love reading the stuff on here - was on the site a lot through the transfer window and now its closed I don't know what to use the internet for - so heres some of my thoughts.

1) Syd - why the downer on Moyes already? He wasnt my first choice to replace SAF - but a part of me didn't think the fella would retire. He has at least brought in a CM something Fergie hasn't prioritised for a few years (I'm counting Kags as a number 10)

2) Fellaini - i'm excited he's joined and looking forward to seeing him partner Carrick in what I expect will turn out to be variations on a 4-2-3-1 system

3) I don't care about 4-4-2 the system works if you have the best 2 CM players - and we haven't since Keano did his knee years ago. You also need great wingers previoulsy Giggs, Kanchelskis, Beckham, Ronaldo. A new system may get the best out of our current players. And if Moyes thinks Kags is lightweight then Carrick and Fellaini behind him may help him - got to give him a chance!

4) Giggs - got his chance at 16 or 17 - time to let the youngsters have a go - I would rather see that than continue with Giggsy at the moment - especially if it stops them leaving like Pogba

5) I watch the youngsters quite a bit. James Wilson could be the next Shearer if he continues - strong, quick and good finisher. Some other good young talents - Thorpe & Barmby to mention just two who haven't been around the first team yet.

6) Bought my 15 yo a United shirt with Fellaini 31 on it at weekend. He is now a mens size medium. It cost £ 70 - which a bloody lot of money to me. Anyway Woodward is good at getting commercial deals - there is talk of £ 1bn deal with Nike. With AIG then AON, Chevolet and the others you can choose not to spend on the product but with Nike or any kit manufacturer you cannot. So who will ultimately pay for the new deal? i'm in a captive market since i'm not going to change clubs - United til I die!

I am excited for the new season - we have been 26 years without this much change so obviously nervous too. The derby will be the real test for me - we have struggled at Anfield for quite a while.

Backing Moyes to win the title - learnt a lot - and then kick on in Europe next year.

Cheers if you read this.

Hey Jacko, good post and some interesting points made. You should post more often!

I too am hoping we get to see Carrick, Fellaini and Kagawa on the pitch at once, between them they have a bit of everything.

I am fully behind Moyes. He will make mistakes, it's learning from them that's important and I think he will earn from them.

Sorry - did you just describe Shearer as being pacey?! Must have missed that!

DodgyBanter

Unfortunately I'm old enough to remember shearer when he was at Soton and Blackburn - he was pacey before he did his ligaments (which was coincidently just after he turned down United for the Toon)

He would have been the business with Eric

HoneyBadger - cheers

Sorry Sydney - must be getting wrong end of the stick

Jacko,

I agree with hb, you should post more often, intelligent points and clearly very knowledgable about football and united and level headed.

Kloot won't be happy with your 15 year old wearing his replica shirt though!

Am really hoping to see Kagawa playing in front of Fro and Carrick but I can't see it happening.

At Evertoon DM has played strong and aerially competent AM/SS.Last few years it has been Fro, and before him Cahill, and when he first took charge he had Duncan Ferguson.

This suggests to me that Rooney will be preferred centrally due to his bullish nature, leaving Kagawa to occupy a wider position.

09 Sep 2013 09:59:40
"19 Jun 2013 17:13:38
to all the hungry spendthrifts over here
there will be two additions coming very soon
theoretically by next week so ngiak hears
but some processes may take longer
gan"

careful Ngiak ;)
Sydney!""
dear mr Sydney
thank you for dredging that up
certainly helps ngiak's case against the "certainties" group here
firstly it was something ngiak heard from a different source outside the club's main staff
at that time there were probably at least those two transfers being planned
they may even have planned more
well whether they were right or not
ngiak and whoever over here will certainly not know
ngiak just reports what the financial sector and legal sector plan.
gan

Fair enough Gan, just showing that not everyone is correct all the time. Even editors who have impeccable sources get one or two things wrong. Everyone is human my friend.

. Or penguin

Yes, humans or birds.

With the utmost respect afforded you Mr Gan what predictions have you ever got right? Just curious old chum!
Cosh

Sydney you make a good point. Gan or ngiak knows nothing and somehow has convinced himself that talking about himself in the third person makes himself different. It just makes him a tool

With the greatest respect football transfers are so fluid that as Sydney said even the eds provide info that then changes and does not bear fruition. For example should we have had a decent source at real we may have been told this window that coentrao is joining considering paperwork was completed but real pulled the plug, this wouldn't have been wrong at the time. I appreciate that people post any Info they may have and as users of the site we get to make our own mind up if we believe it or not and have banter about it. Some posts recently have received abuse and I kinda feel this may put off people from sharing info. Remember we all visit as we have a genuine love for united and want the best for our club(and should respect individuals own views on this regardless if they are not the same views as us)

Books, exactly, all 002 could do is provide us with info of who we are targeting. Due to enquiries being made for that player or bids made. But when SAF retired it seems those targets were binned and Moyes had his own ideas. I think we all expected him to want Fellaini & Baines though.

To me no one could have predicted the seemingly epic cock up "The Equaliser" managed to perpetrate, heaping such a massive amount of embarrassment on the club

Common kloot, don't be shy. say what you mean

09 Sep 2013 00:13:55
Guys I know this is the united page but I wonder did any of you watch the Petrov charity match? I missed the game myself but I have seen the reception he got, and well it brought years to my eyes a great man who deserved it. An inspiration to many and if any of you haven't seen the You'll Never Walk Alone the fans gave him I suggest you go and see it. Amazing, beautiful and emotional, I think it's times like these football shows what a wonderful sport it is! As a Celtic follower I even had rangers fans telling me how they were emotionally moved by it today. All I can say is I hope our team adopts a simar fighting spirit to that of Stiliyan Petrov. Get well soon Stan.