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21 Jan 2014 23:34:36
According to the Telegraph AM are prepared to offer us first refusal on Costa and Felipe Luis if we drop our interest in Mata.
Its certainly going to be an interesting 10 days or so.
Why would they not offer chelsea the players first?
21 Jan 2014 21:09:24
Utd in discussions for 3 major signings this window
Mata is a certainty now, Gundogan expected to follow and finally Moreno to solve the lb issues
If this actually happens I'll give you a lifetime supply of Iceland chicken nuggets that I no longer have the need for.
Would love this to be true! Could you share with us why you believe this to be true?
Cheers
I'll eat my hat if this happens
Mata probable! The other two! It just won't happen. Not this window anyway!
If it was a choice between mata, gundogan or vidal I think i'd have to go for vidal. And if we could get 2 of the 3 i'd go with vidal and gundogan. Would love to kno which one s others would go for and which youd think likeliest if any?
Ah. but then we look at your post history and the ' ' u gave us in summer. £40m deal for fabregas agreed, Rooney going to Arsenal to name but a couple.
Why make these things up when u could be using the time on your homework?
I wish! Its been another long transfer window and it would give the club a real boost adding 3 players of that much quality! The starting 11 would look at mile better
Never going to happen!
I await the usual corporate excuses.
Moyes wants Mata and Moreno in now and integrated to make it easier on his main summer target of Koke
His other major summer targets are Draxler and Mangala unless he can snare Zouma from under Chelseas noses. Gundogan will be the man moyes believes the team should be built around and wants the deal tied up now to avoid a repeat of last summers failings in the transfer market. Dortmund have agreed in principle with Kagawa going in the opposite direction which suits all parties
Again I have to ask seen as you say this matter of factly, where does your info come from?
One can only wish lol.
I would rather take Moreno than Coentrao if i'm honest, but he seems to be Madrid bound.
Ajs71 very interesting.
If everything you have said there were to come to fruition then we would have the makings of a great team.
De Gea in Goal. A back 4 of Raf, Mangala, Jones and Moreno. Gundogan and Koke in the middle. Draxler, Mata and Januzaij infront of them and then RVP up top.
I think Rooney will go, and as such it will be a great shame to loss Kagawa as I think he would excel in this new lineup. Quicker, better players all around him. He would bring the best out of all of them.
If like you say Mata, Moreno and Gundogan can come in now then a push for 4th would really be on the cards.
Only 9 days to go before we know if this is true or not. time will tell.
{Ed004's Note - I don't think Gundogan and Koke would offer enough protection defensively. I think either would have to be paired with a Vidal/Witsel}
21 Jan 2014 19:53:59
Was just watching Revista de la liga and Guillem Balague (as unreliable as he is) just said that Chelsea and United have been in talks over Mata.
Chelsea are supposedly listening to offers of 40m euros or Rooney as a part of the deal, United rejected both offers.
However, he believes a deal will be made as it benefits both parties.
Take of it what you will, I don't believe it at all but can only hope. As much as I hate Chelsea, I love Mata.
Balague trying to look important again, thought I'd might happen til he opened his mouth
Balague is as much an expert on Spanish football as we are on English football. For that matter; just because Mata is Spanish does not give Balague any real insight.
He believes that a deal will happen just as most of us believe that if Mata is available we will make a move.
I don't understand all the pessimism, I reckon he'll sign.
The deal makes sense and so I would not be overly surprised if we did sign him. My pessimism is down to Balague having any knowledge on the matter other than what he's read in the paper and pieced together himself.
He works for sky, sky have a deadline day to promote.
21 Jan 2014 21:16:03
I have a good feeling about Mata.
In Moyes we trust.
21 Jan 2014 17:37:04
Gustavo villani(fox sport pundit) has said that we have agreed a deal to sign Dante from Bayern Munich! Hope it's true but not sure how credible of a source he is?
Load of rubbish doubt they would sell in jan
There's only been interest. no deal reached yet!
That's what you seem to say about everything, I somehow guess your not really a fan?
He's 30. if they sign a 30 year old centre half ill be sending in some hate mail.
His German based agent has said he is going nowhere and is likely to sign a contract extension with BM.
Hate mail? For a player that regularly plays for the team widely regarded as 'the best in the world'?
21 Jan 2014 21:16:38
Hate mail? Dante is a quality defender
Not sure not believing it doesn't make him a fan.
How is a 30 year defender to old, cb's play till at least 35. 30 is there peak
21 Jan 2014 17:24:37
Interesting quote from Dante if true "I’m not yet a Manchester United player. I am still at Munich but appreciate United’s interest. We will have a decision by the end of January.”
21 Jan 2014 17:37:51
Take him now. Quality
Where did you read this?
21 Jan 2014 17:14:14
The Dante rumour has gathered some momentum.
I think he's a decent CB but he's already 30. Bayern bought him for 4 million so I don't think he's worth more than 6 million now.
21 Jan 2014 17:07:37
I reported after the Chelsea a meeting took place saying if we meet the valuation we can speak to him, maybe they are trying to soften us up before they bid for rooney, I am unsure YET weather we have made a bid yet, as soon as I know I will pass it on
21 Jan 2014 17:38:42
37m for Mata and Rooney to Chelsea in summer. Cavani to sign
21 Jan 2014 16:49:31
Fabio is apparently on his way to Freiburg on loan for the rest of the season, according to The Guardian. Pretty reliable imo.
I don't get why we'd loan him out with his contract expiring at the end of the season. Wouldn't it make more sense to just release him from his contract?
21 Jan 2014 16:46:33
When asked if he had signed for David Moyes' men, the 30-year-old responded "not yet, " but admitted that there is interest from the English champions.
"I'm thankful for the Manchester United interest, it will all be sorted out by the end of the month."
That's according to the mirror, reporting fa fox sport brazil interview. Neither source is very reliable, but we can hope.
I said before that Evans should be the one guiding our defense, but if a player of Dante's caliber is to join, I could not be happier
Evans should be no more than back up.
Good as Dante is, he is 31 in Oct.
21 Jan 2014 16:27:13
Reports in Brazil, Fox Sports Brasil to be exact, claim Manchester United closing on Bayern Munich defender Dante.
Would bayern really sell in the January transfer window when they are going for the champions league it would have to be a hell ov an offer maybe in the summer but load of rubbish for now
Mr Flicker is back I see ;)
Dante is primarily a CB, but can play as a defensive midfielder and a LB.
Sydney,
I've only seen Dante a few times, his played well the times I've watched him
How good off a defender is he? Do you also believe the mata rumours?
Unitedlad, I've never seen Dante play, or I haven't watched him closely.
Dante is a very good player but don't know if a Brazilian cb would fit in at OT
Bean try thinking before you type
21 Jan 2014 16:20:36
Loads of rumours on here and Chelsea page about Mata.
The surprising thing is none of the ED's have made any comment. If it was rubbish, I'm sure one of them would have come out and said its rubbish. could there be something in it?.time will tell I guess!
Steve
{Ed004's Note - The only Ed that could clarify the situation is Ed 2 who isn't about so there's a queue of posts waiting for him ATM}
Is Ed002 not about because he is busy working on the Mata deal for Chelsea? Ed002 is Mata's agent! NAILED IT.
That's because ed002 is busy with the paperwork ;)
21 Jan 2014 16:19:52
According to Gustavo Villani(fox sport) we have agreed a deal to sign Dante from Bayern Munich! Hopefully true but don't know how credibal of a source he is!
He's a good defender but he is 30 years old and has only a couple of good years left in him.
Why do people want a 30 year old centre half to come in. Moyes spoke about not getting panic buys. hmmmm.
21 Jan 2014 16:14:45
Hi Ed,
Can you shed any light on the recent Dante rumour?
Some Brazillian news companies suggest we're closing?
Cheers
{Ed004's Note - Can't see that happening}
21 Jan 2014 16:07:14
latest is Dante is close to joining United.
21 Jan 2014 15:29:19
I know he's not the most reliable of sources but Gillem Balague tweeted that we will sign Mata in January.
Oh damn! Well I guess we can tick that one off then.
Did he mention the book he so desperately is trying to sell!
21 Jan 2014 14:16:45
This will probably be old news by the time is gets posted but Guillem Balague has just said that UTD WILL make an offer for Mata.
How reliable he is I don't know, but I remember him calling the De Gea move long before it happened.
Would Roman agree to sell Mata to MU in January if MU agree to sell Rooney to them in the summer? Did SAF/Ed Woodward and Roman really have a glass of wine together after the Chelsea game? I still think Mata isn't a Moyes type player, but stranger things have happened.
He also stated that United had a deposit down on Falcao. wonder if we got it back?
Does it smack of desperation? Moyes way? maybe he is now realising his "way" has to change. I think Mata is top class, but does he fit? I don't know either but its a step in the right direction? 8 months ago we were all chomping at the bit, we knew Rooney wanted out and we were reading the Rooney Mata swap stories and happy. Now though the reaction is a bit more mixed? Why? If Rooney still wants out. what's the difference.
I also recall him saying we paid an amount of money to receive information on Falcao, I don't think it was a down payment so to speak.
21 Jan 2014 13:41:37
Has anybody got any proper inside info on mata, I just can't see this happening i'm not getting my hopes again.
Cant see it either. People saying jose will allow it because we aren't a threat this season. Bit I highly doubt he'd be that short sited.
Moyes, Woodward? Oh you mean here. probably not.
Mate the person who told me that United will only get fellani in the summer has told me about mata 2 weeks ago iv got him at 8-1 to join before feb
I posted this rumour last night and i'm starting to think the main reason for it is for sky and the media. United seniors denied the bid within 30 mins of the story breaking last night yet still the media push it. There will be an interest as he is a quality player but that doesn't mean much. I think the media are looking for their story to run until deadline day and they may have just found it. Another part of me also thinks that the tv coverage deal that sky etc pay to clubs could also include deadline day tv coverage. Small bonus payments for teams doing deals late on deadline day etc would encourage teams to hang on a bit with announcements and rack up public interest and of course, sky viewers.
@elbow55 that sort of make sense what you said about sky paying bonuses for deadline day deals.
@Kyle I think our buying Mata makes great sense especially as there are doubts cast over RVP Rooney and Kagawa. All who could play that role, the no.10.
More importantly what other pearls of wisdom does your mate have re signings ;)
21 Jan 2014 12:43:41
Juan mata deal said to be done by weekend 35 million plus add ons
21 Jan 2014 12:14:53
Hearing that we've just submitted a £37.5 million big for Juan mata! Don't know if it's true. But beg was talking about him yesterday. The papers have it all over the back pages. And he was sat out against us on Sunday which is surprising given his record against us! Make if it what u will but I have a good feeling about this. Plus with us having no game this weekend would make perfect sense. Eds what do u think?
Desperate bid by a man who pays well over the odds for players fellani and mata have not got a yard a pace between them the midfield will get ripped apart next season moyes out
That's a bit harsh, Moyes hasn't bought mata let alone any of his targets so its hard to judge yet.
Decent player, but prefers where Rooney and Kagawa play, so something has to give, unless we play him out wide, would suggest one of them could be on way out, maybe giving them 1st option on Rooney if we do sell as a sweetener?, but if the price is 37 million, well, just don't think he's worth that sort of money, then again, we spent 27 on Fellaini!, think jury could be out on this one
Ill be honest I don't think this is going to happen, it will be a big shock if does
I have to say it makes me laugh that you think moyes is the guy that deals with the money side of a transfer or even having anything to do with it besides picking the player. What do you think the chief exec does exactly?
Fellaini was never moyes first choice of midfielder for utd but after failed attempt after failed attempt desperation kicked in and we got him in for £10mil more than had we have gone in for him a month earlier. Which A) surely doesn't help the player when it was so obvious to all we got well and truely done in that window and B) this is the same player that battered us for everton last season. let's not judge him yet. It isn't his fault we made a complete balls up during the window but all that added pressure is now on his shoulders. Not exactly fair.
If anyone think Mata isn't good enough for us then your delusional 'cos he is exactly the kind of player we need as we are struggling to create chances this season and he's also proved himself in the premier league over the last couple of seasons. I would love it if we signed him
@Bean I would quit while you were ahe. sorry your not ahaead, I would just quit . If the rest of the Pool fans knew you were on waxing lyrical about Fergie and his greatness you wouldn't be long for this world
21 Jan 2014 11:53:22
Barca in for adin januzaj there ready to offer around 20mill if utd fail to reach top 4 that would be a major blow the player himself would be ready to join barca if that happens
Torquay United will want Messi and Ronaldo, doesn't mean they will get them. Adnan is under contract, a five year contract. If he wanted to leave he could have joined Barcalona or Juventus for free in the summer. Adnan is 18 years old. Do you think he will care if MU are out of the UCL for a season? Come on think about it.
Oh is that why he's got clause in is contract if united don't get top4 he can go for 20mill
{Ed004's Note - There is no such clause}
There is literally no way I could see this being allowed to happen.
Get real mate. Do you really think he'd be stupid enough to go to Barcelona. The chances of him getting even the odd first team start are slim. Stop reading .com its aload of bollix
They will be a lot of clubs sniffing round him if united don't get top 4 that's for sure
Bean, Adnan has no such clause as MU wouldn't be that stupid. The Glazers are penny pinchers, they are not stupid.
Adnan signed a deal a couple months ago, why would he when he could have done a Pogba and left for free? It's lies.
Bean, there's a lot of clubs sniffing around your Suarez when your Liverpool fail to make the top four each season. Have any of those teams bought Suarez yet? You are clutching.
Folded on your "release clause" rubbish pretty quickly Bean. You're a Scouse troll
Not a troll just saying what I've heard from a good source
Bean, perhaps your source is a Scouse troll?
Why you copying what helmut says Sydney your a sheep with low iq
Sydney would like to get your opinion on my post on the banters page if you get chance.
Bean you are clearly not a United fan, poor attempt at a WUM.
Well that's fine because Adin Januzaj doesn't player for United, infact I don't think I've ever heard of him.
21 Jan 2014 09:04:59
Is there any truth in the Mata rumour? Or are the press just exciting one another
If Mourinho sells to us then it's clearly because he believes we are no threat. Chelsea are still keen on Rooney in the Summer, when he has only 12 months left on his contract and they may want some guarantee that we'll sell to them if he decides to leave.
Mata is a very good player, creates lots of chances but doesn't track back when he loses the ball. Arguably he is quite similar to Kagawa who Moyes seems reluctant to play.
I think its a bit of paper fluff to be honest.
Like any player being linked that gets us fans hoping I'm sure the next interview with moyes will have the same old "no we're not interested in him but we are working hard to improve the squad " line, yes January is hard but signing players in World Cup year is hardly going to be easy.
37million is to much for mata another desperate bid by a man who pays over odds get him out
Bean if you think Moyes decides transfer fees your either an person or a 12 year old boy that plays too much footy manager.
37mill is to much money for mata simple 27mill to much money for fellani them sort of deals would never of gone through under ferguson so the manger dose have some input on the transfer fee
If Berbatov was worth 30m in 2008 - Mata is certainly worth £37m now. Remember Liverpool paid £35m for Carrol and we paid £28m for Fellaini. I don't think there will be many who argue that Mata is worth at least £9m more than Fellaini, £7m more than Berbatov and £2m more than Carrol!
So Ferguson didn't pay 30mil for Veron? And an awful lot of money on other flops? Go back to the Liverpool page you joke.
One word for you bean. Bebe.
Now say bad deals for too much didn't get approved by fergie. And if your not convinced how about veron, djemba -djemba, bellion, anderson, and nani. I agree with helmut, not sure you have too much of an idea of how a club functions it ain't like fifa. We are thankfully one of the few clubs that let's our manager choose his own players but what good is it to him when you can't get his first or second choices and has to settle for third or fourth.
Veron was a proven world class player before he went to United just didn't quite cut it in England. But fellani il let use be the judge moyes is a mid table manager with a very poor backroom team he's made blunder after blunder why get rid of top class coaches and replace them with mediokre coaches
Moyes offered rene the asst managers job and he turned it down. Chris woods is an excellent goalkeeping coach just look at the difference between tim howard when he was at united and now at everton. He also usa goalkeeping coach and there not exactly short of keepers impressing in the premier league. So that leaves mike phelan. Not knockin the bloke but i'm sure if he was that good sombody would have snapped him up by now.
So besides having players not giving it there all and a chief exec failing him in the transfer window what mistakes is moyes making?
He was offered the reserves job not the assistant manager job
Moyes and lumsden training methods are pre historic according to one coach van presie himself as complained about the training why is half the team injured bit of a coincidence
It would be great if you could let us kno where you get you info from? And to be honest united have had a shocker with injuries for the last 2 or 3 season so not sure you can lay that one at moyes door unless he was poping over from everton to take some of our sessions.
And personaly I can't say I kno enough about lumsden or round to pass judgment. Althogh I would say that for me as a collective they seemed to have everton over achieving year on year so can't be all that bad.
21 Jan 2014 08:21:59
Eds I see in the paper Stephen derfour is in England for talks with Fulham. Would he be worth a punt and secondly were we ever really interested. I know fergie wrote him a letter etc
{Ed001's Note - it has been a long time since United were interested in him, he has never quite lived up to his reputation. One of those who shone as a youngster but the potential has yet to be realised. I very much doubt United would decide to jump in, Moyes likes to do a lot of background checks on his targets, he wouldn't have time to do them on Defour. Also, right now, he would be nothing more than a panic buy, which is also not Moyes's style.}
Panic buy not moyes style don't know about that one what about big fellani
20 Jan 2014 19:58:10
Ed002, if you are about and have five minutes. What is going on with Nani? Are we pricing him out of a move? And in your humble opinion, is not being able to sell Anderson and Nani stopping up from signing players?
{Ed002's Note - I suspect it will drag out until the summer.}
21 Jan 2014 01:15:23
Bit random.
But I work for a printers and just been informed that our printing operation will be running abit late due to a breaking story about Manchester United signing someone.
May not be anything at all but you never know. Just though I'd inform people
"Printing operation running a bit late?!" Hmm, all printers I have ever used have allocated time slots and most work into the late evenings on shifts. So printers running late isn't anything out of the ordinary!
All print sites are different,
Ours is run on 3 editions, and on our 3rd and last edition we started up later than our regular time due to a story about mata and united.
Not asking anyone to believe me but thought I would just share this as like some fans I got excited
Unitedlad,
A lot players name have been printed in papers so far. So unless the names are printed on the back of the shirt, i'm not holding by breath.
But all newspapers tell a pack of lies and just spread rumours to sell papers, why should yours be any different? until its on ssn its not true in my eyes