Manchester United Rumours Archive May 31 2013

31 May 2013 17:54:54
hey edd any truth in rooney going to chelsea and thiago coming from barca if so please tell me

Gingernut {Ed004's Note - I don't think there is any in Rooney going to Chelsea but there seems to be interest from United towards Thiago}

31 May 2013 17:46:08
Phil Jones on his way to Spurs. AVB is a huge fan. Jones is fed up with Moyes and his new regime already. Spurs have offered a way out for about 14 million pounds.

Will be made public through the website in the next 2-3 days.

ScotUtd {Ed004's Note - I don't even think Moyes has taken a training session yet?}

Ed004, welcome to silly season.

REDFAITH

That's one hell of a bad training regime Moyes. Buck up your ideas boy.

I think you are just making a fool of yourself. If you wanted to lie, at least it had to be half true! The Editor is a good person, I would have not responded to your lies.

This must be the funniest rumour I have read on this site! Rubbish!

Only one word I can describe you "Fool"

Never heard such rubbish! He'll be a united legend. He's going no where!
Oh go on. Give us a clue as to your 'source'?!

MS

For god, s sake. make something up worth reading or go and bother some other site pillock. Rock the red

Believable if it meant bale coming the other way and 14 million. sadly I have more hope on fabregas and ronaldo coming, which to be honest is nothing more than a dream

31 May 2013 18:17:36
I just can't see Moyes selling the best English defending prospect since a young Rio.

What a load of crap

This is the most far fetched thing I've ever heard! Phil Jones is on international duty! I seriously doubt he would have had time to get "fed up" in the brief period that DM has been appointed! Try again mate!

SJT

Lol Moyes has not even took charge yet! Plus Jones would sell for double that anyway!

Red faith I don't silly season accurately describes how much rubbish that post was.
DHK

You sound drunk!

Nick86

S*** and I've just named the new puppy "Phil Jones", i'll have to put it down down now.

Lol That has got to be the best rumour on here

Sounds like the medication isn't working. Get well Soon, in the meantime stay away from keyboards.

Some ones had to much to drink! Taxi for the biggest person on here!

I'll give you 14 million pound if that deal happens.

Person, plonker, lfc fan
Dubred

Theres a scouse in the house.
mick the red fireman.

I've been looking at this web site for a couple of years now and have seen some very stupid rumours, but this is the worse of all!

Rubbish

Oh my god! what on gods green earth are you babbling on about you moron? I have never heard sutch clap trap in my whole life! I think your confusing championship manager to the real world! get back into your basement and get a grip of yourself!

Go back to sleep

Well, if it was a response you were after! Otherwise, go away and stop talking s**te.

I sense a troll

Aj

31 May 2013 15:52:34
Ed have you got any updates on Rooney? He once again looked out of shape and sluggish for England. Would you stay say that he is a likely departure? {Ed004's Note - I am hoping so but I think him leaving is very unlikely tbh}

Thanks. If you were to put money on it, what do you think Moyes first choice 11 will look like next season? {Ed004's Note - I reckon 4231 with De Gea, Rafael, Smalling/Evans, Vidic, Baines, Carrick, Strootman, Di Maria, Rooney, Kagawa and RVP up top though would love Fabregas in midfield and possibly a Rooney replacement such as Ozil or Reus but that is asking too much imo}

Ed004 that means Zaha will not into the first team? Do you think he will be loaned? {Ed004's Note - No but there is no chance imo that Zaha will be a regular next season he will have a good number of appearances under his belt by the end of the season but it is unrealistic to expect him to become a regular at Utd over one season imo}

PR, the squad is 25 players just because he's not in the strongest starting line-up doesn't mean he won't get plenty of games. Surely easing in a relatively unproven yet talented youngster is the best way to go?

No Zaha?
No Jones? {Ed004's Note - I don't expect either to be regulars next year. Also you hammered Nani this year for being inconsistent so I can't wait to see your opinion of Zaha after half a season!}

Ed004 you have posted above in the expected team for the next season"Evans/Smalling" and you also say that Jones will not be a regular next season. Is he so far behind the pecking order or is it that he is still too young? (IMO if he doesn't get game time now it will rather degrade his game) {Ed004's Note - I just do not think he is a suitable partner for Vidic and imo Vidic has to start in the big games for us as he is the team leader and is probably the best centre back in the league when on form. I also think Smalling and Evans are closer to Rio than Jones and Rio and Vidic were brilliant together. Smalling will hopefully come back and regain form and his speed along with his positional play will see a brilliant partnership with Vidic formed}

HoneyBadger, good point. But what i'm trying to say is that if there is no Valencia and Young in that line up would it be possible for Zaha to get decent game time? Considering Welbeck, Kagawa and Young can play on left and Valencia, Nani (if he doesn't move) play on right!

Wasn't just this season I've hammered Nani I've NEVER rated him. Time will tell with Zaha but I will give him time. Just as I will with Kagawa who I don't think has been fabulous in his first season but has been injured AND played out of position. Yet still contributed more than 5yr 'veteran' Nani lol. {Ed004's Note - I am not defending Nani but what time was he given this season bare in mind the seasons he was given time he had the most assist in the league and contributed 12 or so goals. Now I believe Nani's career at United is over unless Moyes can come in and make him consistent and had him working harder for the team as then I couldn't think of a better right footed winger available however, you are expecting someone who has never played in the premiership and who has been inconsistent in the championship and hasn't got impressive stats for a championship player and be our savior on the wings}

In response to the Rooney comment at the top, he has just become a father again! If my little lad is anything to go by Rooney might get some sleep in a few months time!

31 May 2013 15:22:17
Paris Saint Germain have met Manchester United's asking price of £17M for Nani. Totally in hands of Nani

more new to come.


MR UTD7 {Ed004's Note - I reckon we offer them a swap involving Verratti or Matuidi but can't see them wanting to do that}

I hope your right his time is up let's hope anderson soon leaves with him!what's your source?REDWILL

Nani plus £10m for Verratti would be wonderful!

Ozwald

Thats good news.

You really think PSG would spend 17 million quid on that person.
I know there rich but that's just throwing money down the drain.
It will never happen, they don't even need him.

Simmo

Simmo, Zenit were going to spend €27m on Nani just ten month's ago. Nani in a team that gives him the luxury of staying forward and not having to track back would be a very tidy asset.

Sydney!

Sydney

That was last year, he is worse now and played less games.
He can't beat a man, his control is terrible and he can't even get in the united team ahead of Giggs, Young and Valencia.
I don't care in Nani never crossed back into his half again he is still dog sh*t and so is Anderson.
Rany over. lol.

Simmo

Simmo, Nani has been shunted out of the side by the manager for rejecting his move to Zenit. Nani has known for the past two years that he is not wanted by the club. How would you play knowing that? I am not making a case to keep Nani as I think he needs to go and will go, but he is a very talented player and we will see that when he moves to another club.

Sydney!

A good deal for a player with one year left on his contract 'if' its true
DHK

Simmo, I'm not sure he could have gotten 'worse' within a year and at his prime. He just hasn't played much and when he has he's been inconsistent. There's been lots going on behind the scenes with him too. I think he could do well at another team but it's time for him to leave United that's for sure.

I'll drive him there myself

Taxi for Nani? Is it Christmas ready?
Seriously chaps if we could get 17m for Nani that would be an incredible piece of business.

There are some players who are just not United quality and Nani epitomises that. And it's not just about the last 2 seasons. He has been a poor buy over the 5 seasons he's been here.

He could go elsewhere and improve but for whatever reason he has never made the grade at United and never will.

Shaves 80k pw off the wage bill and creates a squad berth for someone hopefully more deserving if the privilege.

31 May 2013 20:31:03
@ simmo
yes, its going to happen. psg has already met Manchester United asking price, just personal terms with nani, that remain.

and Manchester United are on the verge of signing strootman and thiago is a done deal with barcelonia but its up to thiago to decide if he want to paly for Manchester United or stay in barcelonia.

more news to come on new utd gk coach. peter schmeichel seems favourite for the job after getting his coaching badge according to my source.
MR UTD7

31 May 2013 10:11:07
Gd news. Galatasaray enquired Nani willing to pay up to 10m while Utd is setting 14m. I think this'd be a done deal. good start! JS

Although I think its time for Nani to go £10-14m in todays market is cheap. One thing does amaze me (bar Ronaldo and even arguably in his case) we do seem to have a history of under selling players value wise in line with the market.
Invisible Stuey

Yes I agree, why don't we hold clubs to ransom just like other clubs do to us? Beckham and Van Nistleroy spring to mind. We practically gave them away to Madrid and also only got paid in installments. We probably have not even been fully paid for those 2 players yet! Our negotiators need to grow a pair and stop letting other clubs believe that we don't need the money because when we go in for a player you can guarantee that the price goes up by at least 20%

Stevo

We got 13.2 million pounds for Van Nisterooy from Real Madrid and he was 30 years old. We only paid 19 million for him, I think that's a good price for a 30 year old.
We got 35 million EUROS (26 million pounds) for Beckham and he was 28 nearly 29. Again I think that's a good price for a player of his age.

Simmo

Thank God

Nani out 12m
Strootman in 17m

lovely jubbly

I think Beckham was probably undervalued mainly due to his marketing potential. Most of the time however when we sell players it's because we have made the decision to get rid, whereas when we're buying the other club is either eager to hang on to the player or at least pretend to be eager so as to maximise their value, meaning we end up paying more.
Jomu83

I read somewhere that Beckham made back the circa £25m he cost in 3 days with merchandising etc. whether that is true or not I don't know, but you can guarantee that Beckham made Real an awful lot more than he cost them. I think Fergies dislike for "Brand Beckham" got in the way of the best deal for MUFC.
Also thinking of Jaap Stam, he was sold for £16m and I think he was worth more.

Simmo we only got £10million for RVN and we only received around £20million for Beckham which, for someone who was on the cusp of his 28th Birthday and the best in his position in the world at the time, was an absolute bargain for Real Madrid IMO. I would tend to agree with those that say we should be holding out for higher prices. We tend to be very fair to other clubs when it comes to our valuations of our outgoing players, a courtesy that is rarely returned.

TK-Red

I kinda get the sell on value argument taking place here but let's not ever equate the selling of Nani against the sales of Beckham and RVN ever again please.

cheers

Totally agree with the 'underselling' points. However, what the likes of Becks, RVN and Stam had in common was that Fergie wanted them out, and quickly. Slight case of 'cutting off your nose', but that's how the gaffer worked.

Yes very true that most of our players leaving has been bythe choice of the club as opposed to buying from clubs that don't actually want to sell really. Still doesn't detract from the fact that we have under sold players, you don't have to hold clubs to ransom to get a fair deal.
I am not saying the OP's rumours is true, but it is a good example, tell me, who with £14m you could buy as a winger with the talent or experience of Nani irrespective of him never fullfilling it consistently. Beckham for sure was over sold, you only have to see what Galaxy and PSG were paying him in wages to realise his value to a club all be it not footballing reasons, and let's not forget Beckham was a top top player at that point with several years still ahead of him. anyway as excited as I was when we signed Nani having seen a few of his games for Lisbon, I have been equally dissapointed with him in the main more so. The same can be said for Anderson even though in his case I would be sad to see him go as I still think he could be excellent, inury free, fit and with a run of games and confidence but he has had enough chances now I think.
Invisible Stuey

For me, its about the culture of United simply placing team harmony/a players ability above financial gain (something you can do when you earn as much as they do). In the case of Stam it was the book debacle, with Beckham it was the fame etc. Other teams might keep on players if they don't feel they are getting a "fair" deal financially, which could ultimately damage team performances/morale for the sake of business. United seem to cut their losses when it suits the club and if an odd £5m is relinquished here and there, so be it. The cycle of the side must continue above all else. and what a great attitude!

SD