Manchester United Rumours Archive August 05 2013

05 Aug 2013 22:38:00
I was told on Friday that utd will not sell rooney end off that's from some one who works with the players tb

Everyone's got a price, are you telling me if an absolutely ridiculous offer came in for him we still wouldn't sell

19JackC94

Jack, be serious at this rate who will come in with a ridiculous offer? No one, Rooney will not be sold because there is not enough interest.

Ozwald

I think MUFC are waiting for Rooney to hand in a transfer request. If then a £25+M bid did come in he would be sold.
Redchad

He's a liability now to team spirit and if Chelsea are prepared to bid £40m then he should go.

Plus if the player himself wants to leave, then there is nothing anyone at OT can do about it. Not going to let a 200k+ a week player do his stuff in the reserves.

Agree that most people have a price, but don't think we're likely to get a ridiculous offer for Rooney. Part of me says let him go if he's not committed to the club, the other part is concerned that with our current lack of activity, if we do sell, we'll be unable to get a suitable replacement and end up weaker than last.

Our main rivals have all strengthened, like many on here I'm hoping we have something in the pipeline but I have to admit, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with the same squad as last season, possibly minus Rooney!

Charla

Id drive him to Chelsea for £30m. He is a bad potato and needs to leave. don't care how good he has been, for the last 2. 5 years he has been a festering sore and particularly the last 18 months.

Im hoping for some world class signings to fill the gap but to be honest i'd rather see Wellbeck in there that the fat scouser, at least he has passion in buckets to play for United.

Everyone is calling Rooney but your all reading silly articles made up by lazy journo's.
Rooney hasn't publicly come out and said that he wants to leave.
Only Rooney and Manchester United know what is going on.
It drives me insane that some of you pick up the Sun, Daily Fail etc read it and think that it's the gospel truth.
Lets wait and see what happens before you all slaughter him.
Some of you are saying get rid, sell him but believe me if he goes to Chelsea he will have a superb season and I have no doubt in my mind will easily notch up 20-25 goals in a season so just be carefull what you wish for.
Until Wayne Rooney officially comes out and hands in a transfer we don't know what is going on.
Lets not forget this lad has been a fantastic player for United and carried United at times from when Ronaldo left the club.
In my eyes he and RVP are the only two world class players.

Simmo

I actually think the situation has changed now Rooney has refused to travel to the AIK game and with press rumblings of problems with him in the dressing room there is no way back for him

How do you kno he refused to travel? The press? Well it doesn't matter we can play thiago or hazard instead because according to the press they we nailed on to be in our squad. Don't base your opinions on what the press say

NOTHING made up about this one, Rooney REFUSED yes REFUSED to travel to Sweden. He`s going END OF!!

Lads I really think wel keep him the World Cup is next year and if he has a good season plays well in brazil his price won't change if anythin hel increase in value cause there'll b more interest. Just fingers crossed cause he has been the hub of our team for the past few years. I would b sad to see him go but every1 has fallings out with there bosses and want a fresh start never mind the money or situation iv gone for bosses when they undermine my doings I'm sure he feels the same. anyways wel find out more on Friday at rio's testimonial

Duffers

Put the boot on the other foot and ask why then hasn't he come out and declared his undying love for united, and told us all he desperately wants to stay.

Cos he doesnt. Therefore I don't want him in a red shirt.

If Rooney is allowed to leavewithout at least an equivilent replacement would be gross bad management and set a marker to the quality to. expect this season BazRed

Sorry anniewithoutmakeup

Do you know something we don't?
Your seem definate about this Rooney situation, can you enlighten us with why nothing is made up or were you reading The Sun paper at the time of typing?

Simmo

Woodward will not SELL Rooney purely on money grounds.

If we SOLD Rooney to Chelsea for, say, £35 mil we would have to pay his contract for the remainder of his two years. So £35+ mil less his CONTRACTED wage over 2 years of, Say, £22 mil leave very little for a player of his undoubted quality. (You do the maths as I don't know the exact amount he is on) If however Rooney put's in a transfer request to leave then we would not be liable for his wages, bonuses or image rights. Therefore £35+ mil becomes £35+ mil. It's purely a matter of bottom line, I would think. Would YOU as a business exec rather £35+ mil to spend on future players, or many mil less? The club can afford NOT to sell Rooney if so desired. Personally I would prefer Rooney to stay and sign a new extension.

Mac

You are all forgetting a major factor here guys. Why do the geeks own our club. Money!!! end of. Rooney rotting on the bench £200000 plus per week. The more angry Rooney gets the more he upsets our fans. Suddenly Rooney is not a valuable asset regarding Shirt sales, advertising and all the other commercial ventures that he is involved with for the club. Do you really think the Glazers will like that. Smell the coffee boys, Rooney will leave. As much as the management would like it to a foreign club, Rooney holds the aces here I'm afraid. He will leave in this window. He will go to Chelsea. Put your mortgage on it. The glazers are not football lovers just business men and $$$$$ conquers all as far as they are concerned.

I washed david peggs car

The problem with Rooney, weather he stays or goes is his attitude. he can be a fine player but this is the second time his name has come up in lights about wanting out of Man Utd. people on here are saying he is not coming out and saying he wants out!but he is not saying he wants to stay is he?i would support Rooney 100% if he grew a pair and stayed to fight for his place, and impress his new mgr and play like the Rooney we know he can,

SuperRed

05 Aug 2013 20:49:51
Hi All,

I discussed Fabregas with Musa Okwonga (journo from espn) yesterday, I asked him if he had heard anything in journo circles that could be encouraging us to bid for Cesc. He told me that Cesc is keen to move to Utd.
the public nature of the bids make more sense knowing this too. Basically we need to make an offer attractive enough for Cesc to ask for a move and offer a large enough fee to Barca

I found this very encouraging news although there may be some more posturing and negotiating to be done over the next couple of weeks.

Is that Must A ok Wonga?

Fabs

05 Aug 2013 21:01:08
Just read a swedish newspaper, according to them Kagawa was not to been seen at the airport.

Hes been given extra time off back for charity shield

Travelling squad form manutd.com
Lindegaard, Amos; Rafael, Evans, Evra, Jones, Smalling, Vidic; Anderson, Bebe, Carrick, Giggs, Nani, Zaha; Henriquez, KAGAWA, van Persie, Welbeck

Did they see park-ji? because they might have been mistaken

Kagawa likes to sample the goods in duty free so maybe he ducked in there?

05 Aug 2013 18:55:03
This is coming from a source who has been
travelling with United for 3 decades now.

Rooney is not injured but he did such a
embarrassing act so he can leave United.

Rooney has refused to travel with the squad.

You got this from Peter Bolton on Tw**ter.

Do you run one of the united pages on fb? Just saw this exact same post

Also wazza IS injured. He has a chip on his shoulder.

05 Aug 2013 15:20:52
Jurgen klopp is an open admirer of kagawa and remains in contact with him, what do you guys think of swapping him for lewandowski? Davethered

Well a swop is not going to happen Lew will not come to Utd. If it did however I think Dortmund would have the better deal. Kagawa is a very skilled player who we should do everything possible to retain.

No thanks.

Ozwald

Kagawa as stated he wants to stay and fight for his place in the team take note Rooney we need more players with Kagawa's
attitude. Agree skilful player who will only get better

Acker

Still think Lewy is coming anyway once we've sold The Scouser

Great idea so far Kakawa very lightweight. Baz Red

Buy lewi then get 40m for rooney or 30m from someone outside of the Uk

Stupid move in my opinion kagawa will be a utd great and has showed the club some commitment which rooney should take note of.

c19lav

So you want to swap a player who wants to stay, is technically gifted, is committed & determined to succeed here with a player who wants a move to some other club desperately, is not what we need at the moment?!

Good plan.

Klopp has already tried and failed to take kagawa back in this window.

No way just buy lewy outright shinji will only get better an can play in Rooney position behind the main attacker!

Lewy is a done deal to Bayern nxt season.

06 Aug 2013 14:35:52
why not. but its very unlikely. as lewandowski is keen on bayern switch.

05 Aug 2013 14:15:59
My friend met an assistant to Mendes in Mayfair on the weekend and he said that the Ronaldo deal is nearing the end of the pipeline, it's not certain but it's getting very close. Apparently its a complicated deal, but he'll be on £350K a week! I'm skeptical as like everyone else about this but my friend is a die hard red and moves in these circles - I would have to say there is a lot of truth and hope in this.

Marca are reporting he's on the verge on agreeing an extension to 2018 at Madrid. They are usually correct when it comes to Real Madrid.

Ronaldo will sign an extension and get paid around £670k week.

Sydney!

Ah yes, that's true actually. Do you mean when Marca reported Madrid were going to bid for Cesc in 2010 and when Tevez said Yes to Madrid in 2009? Or when they recently reported Aguero will be a Madrid player next season? They're definitely usually correct when it comes to Real Madrid. Good point, well argued.

Rather take Fabregas, Fellaini, Baines for 80m

Sydney, I don't care how rich eal are, they can't afford to sign Bale and pay that out for Ronaldo.

Dan

£670K per week that's £35m a year Syd, there's no way they would pay him that
Cheekos

If what syd says is true I presume a lot of that money is from image rights and sponsors etc.

Ozwald

Any player that plays for Madrid must give up 50% of their endorsements to the club.

Melwing28

Spain's tax has risen to 50%, in Barcelona it's as high as £55% but that isn't relevant here. Ronaldo wants £17.4m (net), that's after tax. So before tax RM will need to pay him £35m for him to receive £17.4m. £35m equates to roughly £670k a week.

Sydney!

Sydney you are just reporting the dribble written in various newspapers. There is zero evidence to any of it and I recommend we wait and see as there is a lot more to this.

For those of you who might be interested I have an old harvard business school case study on Madrid and their business model and we had their president back in 2007 on a live video conference which was interesting but they will not be paying that sort of money even for real Madrid.

Shahram

Maybe 300k a week before tax.

05 Aug 2013 18:11:02
Shahram, Ronaldo wants €20m net. That is no secret. I'm not basing that on any newspaper. I am basing it on what Ramon Calderon and Graham H. have said.

Sydney!

If he gets 300k a week he'll end up roughly with what he's getting now no? wasn't he only paying 25% tax on his current contract? and it changes to 50 on his next one? wasn't that what this whole thing was about? the best possible deal he could get himself! Like I said yesterday Madrid will give him what he wants and he'll sign a new deal!

Flash.

A bit of name dropping there Sharahm :-) Harvard business school! i'd be interested to learn a little more.

Real Madrid are killing this window now, their ridiculous valuations of what they are prepared to pay scew the whole market ( if he's worth that then he's worth this) and their arrogance winds me up 100mph. Isn't FFP meant to start this season and where's Platinni? He's be going Ape if the English clubs were doing what Real, Barca, PSG and Monaco are doing.


Jiameuk

No name dropping just the truth. It basically shows how they changed their business model and how they generate the income they do. People are quick to quote figures here but in reality it is not as simple as everyone thinks. The Ronaldo stuff is not about wages and there is more to it namely imaging rights, which is the hold up and goes against their business model. Just think Tiger woods and look at his earnings as a golfer and his earnings on the sponsorship front.

If the eds allow it I will go dig in out some old folders and attach it. It is quite an interesting read.

Shahram

Ronaldo Lover

He's only looking for more money. Every United fan needs to forget about this, it won't happen (at least not this summer) deal with it.

05 Aug 2013 09:42:36
According to Miguel Delaney and his MU sources, the Cesc Fabregas pursuit is far from over. MU are still in for him.

Sydney!

We'll sign him Sydney!

It's too quiet on our front & his. I think Barcelona are Basically saying come back to us with a higher bid soon because we need the cash.

Hopefully we'll hear something this week.

I'm getting tired of this. We need our signings before the start of the season, we'll play Swansea, City, Liverpool, Spurs. We need to be ready. This will be a very rough start of a season and we are still weak on the same areas. Adnan, Zaha won't solve our problems.

4 weeks to the end of the transfer market, we still have time to get them, but the time we're wasting on Cesc is getting annoying.

Agree, I posted something similar, all the noises coming from Barca seem to suggest we haven't met the valuation and we've failed to up the bid, which would explain the comments from them yesterday that we've given up when clearly we've made no such statement. Interesting to hear what Moyes says in his presser today, it will at least tell us where we are.

I hope your right mate

A player we need in my eyes

Nick, we're not wasting time on Cesc. We're in a position where we need quality over quantity! There aren't many world class midfielders available currently, Cesc is exactly what we need. Midfield trio of Carrick, Fab and Kagawa would be massive.

Ozwald

I do think we'll get him. My personal opinion is that Barcelona need the cash so to purchase a defender or two.

Glad to see that Anderson came out publicly stating he needs to loose a couple more pounds, and that he is hungry to stay at Old Trafford. I do believe if he has a good run of games then he has something to offer us. I remember in his first season he played Gerrard and Fabregas off the park. His confidence must be pretty low.

This Fabregas pursuit is so annyoing. Everyone and his dog knows that we won't get him anyway but we still keep on wasting time.

We have such a hard start to the season. If we don't strengthen our team until then I think we could drop s***loads of points.

I just can't see us beating Chelsea or City. They have a worse squad but their first eleven is quite a bit better than ours at the moment. So hopefully Moyes and Woody stop their dreams about Fabregas and go after some good and attainable alternatives.

I really can't see us getting him.
If it was a case of Barcelona holding our for 35 million pounds and by the looks of it United want him badly then why haven't we just met Barca's asking price?
It's another Wesley Sneijder saga, this has dragged on and on and on and to be honest i'm getting sick of hearing about the whole thing now.
Just pay the bloody 35 million pounds if you want him so bad, or Fabregas please come out and tell us if you want to stay or go?
The transfer window just drives me insane, I wish it never existed.

Simmo

Saegull. Lol.

We should be buying other players, whilst waiting to see what happens with the Cesc deal. We need 2 midfielders desperately, we can't just keep relying on Carrick and sub standard players playing next to him. Giggs is past it, Cleverley is ordinary at best and Anderson just isn't fit or good enough. We should grab Fellaini or Lars Bender to play next to Carrick. Then if Cesc's deal collapses, as I fear, then we can go for Cabaye, Eriksen or a creative player we need. I know Fellaini isn't popular with a section of our fans, but he is so much better than other partners we have for Carrick. I think Fellaini would be a revelation for his doubters, surrounded by better players than at Everton, he'll prove to be top class. If we got Cesc or Cabaye they can interchange with Fellaini, as all 3 of these players are versatile and can play deep alongside Carrick, or play in a 3 behind RVP alongside Kagawa and Rooney or Wellbeck or one of our wingers. The season starts in less than 2 weeks, it's community shield next week, we really need 2 midfielders at the very least. Of course Baines would be a great buy too.
Mik

Simmo, who says Barca will accept £35m?

Also did we ever come out and say we made a bid for Sneijder?

Wazza

I'd like to think this is true if we do through a 35m bid with 5m add ons it's a good deal and I think they'll take it and go for David luis and agger they do need cash after buyin naymar to balance the books a bit wel see soon doh.

Dufferz

I haven't got a clue what they want for him i'm just saying what everybody else is saying which is apparantly around the 35 million pound mark.
To be honest i'm sick of the whole thing.
By the way I never said we did bid for Sneijder, I compared the whole Sneijder thing to the Fabregas thing. will he won't he come?. did we didn't we bid for him?

Simmo

I don't think we will get him. Nor do I believe we will get Ronaldo (as much as i'd love that)

Fact is both players do not want the moves.

Jake