02 Sep 2014 16:03:46
Wooooooooooooooooo.
Celebrations.

Finally cleverly is off.
What a best window this has been


1.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 16:21:38
Strange thay we celebrate the leaving of a home grown player. It's a shame, same for Welbeck. Maybe if he played for someone else we'd be saying he's a potential signing.


2.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 16:27:47
Yep u can't see how he never made it here tbh when he has the great support of fans like this.


3.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 16:32:47
Tbh I'm just worried about Syd! Will someone be with him tonight ;-)


4.) 02 Sep 2014
How very grown up of you. Have you ever considered the lad may have been following instructions from his coaching staff last year, that the team itself wasn't good enough in many positions last year or that fans like you are largely responsible for his loss of confidence at both United and England level. Really is a very childish attitude. Whether he was good enough or not, doesn't excuse the level of abuse he has received from both United and England fans alike.


5.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 16:41:19
rodio,

You absolute moron.

Good luck to Tom, it was never going to happen for him at United, especially with fans like you, but let's hope he can kick start his career elsewhere and have a long career.

I have never once seen Tom Cleverley in a United shirt not giving 100%. Maybe 100% of his effort is not good enough, but he has been at United since he was a young kid and has worked hard every day to play for the club.

Again, like all the players that have left this summer, goodbye and good luck.


6.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 16:45:01
Stop taking the moral high ground, you know he isn't anywhere near good enough for us.

Seems like a nice lad, just not good enough for us. I always support getting behind the players/manager. but there has to be a point where you admit to yourself that he just wasn't good enough.


7.) 02 Sep 2014
People should be happy that Cleverley has left. He was a player that the manager told had no future at the club, but turned his nose at a permanent move because he wanted more money. At least now we don't have to pay his wages this year.

It's a shame that our academy players haven't developed in the way we all hoped, but they have been given ample time to prove themselves here and have failed. I can guarantee that if they were at other clubs, nobody would be calling for us to sign them, they wouldn't even be on our radar.

We sell youth players every year and nobody gives a monkey's, so what's so special about these two?


8.) 02 Sep 2014
Be they home grown or not, would you keep them on the payroll if you had to pay their wages?
They had plenty of chances to prove themselves and didn't take them a team is a team and work for the benefit of that team.I can't say i'm sorry to see him leave, I wish he had made it, but he was a liability and maybe this is better for him in the long run, certainly for the team it is.


9.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 17:17:32
And many of you have again missed the point to my and GDS post, its not about wether I thought he was good enuff here its about showing a bit of loyalty and class to a player who played many games for us!

He never was a problem or caused any while here yet still gets abuse! I guess that's the mentality of the modern fan.


10.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 17:34:42
Yes, free up payroll if need be but to celebrate someone leaving is different and very disrespectful.


11.) 02 Sep 2014
Cant believe some of you people, a week ago he was no good for us and complete rubbish and should be sold.
We got our wish, he's gone so be happy for that.
Double standards don't work for me.


12.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 17:56:01
Herbie ill informed quotes dnt work for me either mate, fact is knowone including me is saying he is good enough for our team but I always thought most of us had a bit of class when our players moved on! Sadly I seem to be wrong. (not the 1st time)


13.) 02 Sep 2014
Goodbye Cleverley I won't miss you pointing where other players should play the ball.

I'm worried about Syd and hope he isn't Sydicidal.


14.) 02 Sep 2014
Maybe if Cleverly showed a bit of class as a UTD player instead of just picking up his pay packet just maybe the fans would repay him by showing our appreciation.
Good luck clevs on your new voyage but good riddance.


15.) 02 Sep 2014
Good luck to Cleverly and Welbeck. Its a sad day for me when 2 home grown talents are moved on. 18 months ago Cleverly looked good for us, a massive loss in confidence not helped by a lot of comments by his own fans. He would never have been a world beater but could have done a good job as part of our squad if he had found his confidence again.Also think Welbeck will prove a lot wrong.


16.) 02 Sep 2014
Clevs leaving is best for him and the club. It's a shame that things didn't work out and it's not his fault that he wasn't good enough. If the talk of his wage demands scuppering a permanent deal are true then I have lost a bit of respect for him but still wish him luck and expect him to go on to be a decent player.


17.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 18:25:08
Herbie explain where he has acted classless? I can't remember who said it but u could never fault clevz gave 100% while playing and yes maybe that wernt good enough at united but I fail to see where that warrants abuse?
Fergie never attempted to sell him so i'm struggling to find when he acted in a classless way?


18.) 02 Sep 2014
Herbie, once again you win the trophy for arse of the week. I am not a Cleverly fan but your approach is out of order. I'm assuming you are 12


19.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 18:36:08
GDS it looks like u r going to miss something special from him that we are not aware off?? In that case never mind your reactions.
I m not English so I don't care about home grown or played in red shirt stuff. One isn't good enough must go.
I care for the club only and the place where it should belong.
I m sure people like u just argue for drawing attention and look different in a group.
Never mind.
Once again.
Wooooooooo
Celebrations.

GDS love cleverly is gone.


20.) 02 Sep 2014
CTR
First off within this thread I have not abused clevs, i'm just been realistic.
People say he always gave 100%, no he did not, people who stand out in a game stand out for a reason, can you seriously say that you saw a match where he did.


21.) 02 Sep 2014
Guys we have 6 fantastic new players in, RVP has just rubbished the surgery reports and so much to look forward to even though 352 does my head in, who cares they are gone. One wanted a move because he was never going to be happy to be number 3 or 4 choice and the other one is bloody ordinary. Just drop it I ma happy they are gone, wages that can be used for better players home grown or not. Homegrown will not win you anything if they are not good enough.


22.) 02 Sep 2014
AJH
Feeling precious again are we? maybe you should get your mum to put a plaster on that.
Please explain what you see in my approach that none of us are actually thinking.
Jumping on the band wagon gives me the impression you're a sheep, think for yourself man.
I don't know what your problem is but i'll bet its hard to pronounce.


23.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 19:20:20
Arsenal 8-2, Newcastle away off the top of my head mate.

But again u have missed my point I feel mate.

Radio ure a right person! homegrown does not just mean english it means we have took a young lad built him into a footballer given him his chance and given him a carrer! Our club will do good to not have fans like u, grow up! Maybe next year city will take your fancy? Ure reply has just shown u up i'm afraid!


24.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 19:45:28
Rodio,

My post had nothing to do with cleverley being a local lad, it was to do with your disrespect when he didn't deserve it. At least 3 others on this thread agreed with me so I didn't exactly look different in the group, in fact AJH had already posted the same opinion before I posted mine. Its my opinion that you are showing a lack of class, if you don't like that then up to you.


25.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 19:49:53
Rodio, I'm not English either, but I've always believed a successful English club, should have a good representation of English players, especially, as a bonus, players who've been brought up at the club. Just like all the other major clubs in Europe. They still have to be good enough though.

Foreign or not, if you don't see the importance of having a strong contingent of national players in the squad, then I don't think you understand the ethos of our club, or the nature of it's identity.

Cleverley wasn't good enough - something no-one is disputing, which is something his detractors in this post are choosing to ignore, but he was a Utd player, picked by the greatest manager ever, and deserves a bit better than a 'thank f*ck he's gone'.

Feel free everyone to misrepresent this post, too.


26.) 02 Sep 2014
Just because Cleverley was picked a few times by Moyes doesn't mean that he was ever going to make it at the club StevieK.


27.) 02 Sep 2014
I don't disrespect outgoing players but i'm sure everyone on there moral crusade all wished tevez all the best when he left for the bitters? no thought not :)


28.) 02 Sep 2014
Well said johndenton, it will be the same when "Burger king" goes too.


29.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 20:52:03
John, not even a close comparison, mate. Come on. You're better than that :)


30.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 20:53:51
Touche, Danny. Touche. (Sorry, phone won't let me put an accent on the e, but you know what I mean)


31.) 02 Sep 2014
Stoner, yes, Cleverley will be with me tonight :)


32.) 02 Sep 2014
CTR I do understand your point I just personally don't agree. (site would be boring if we all agreed)
"And United are on the attack, Carrick passess to Cleverly. ok forget the attack its come back again"
He gets the ball looks around and almost soils his pants and quickly gets rid of it, that is not a class player. I never rated him. Sorry.


33.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 21:10:44
Come on John lol u no that it totally different mate.

Herbie that fine mate I totally agree bud it would be very boring if we all agreed mate. Just to clear it up I dnt think at all we should of kept him but just can't stand the abuse one of our own players gets/got while at the club and when leaving simply because he was not good enough.


34.) 02 Sep 2014
02 Sep 2014 21:12:18
He always with u Syd, Either in your mind or the physical world lol.

Maybe that says a little bit more about me than you the fact I know that :-S lol