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19 Sep 2013 22:12:14
Just want to say I'm delighted at the return of Ed02 on this site. It really wasn't the same these last few months and the standard of banter also declined. Also, great to have Bond around more frequently too.
03 Sep 2013 14:38:42
Hi all
I am just wondering what are people's opinion regarding the actual sacking/demotion of DeadWoodWard? At the end of the day, he is a clueless penny pincher. Unfortunately, that is exactly what The Glazers want (Penny pinching not clueless). Squeeze every penny! Could public anger/protest and pressure work?
1.) A point you have almost touched upon,
IF Woodward loses his job that shows this summer's mess is his fault, IF he does not lose his job then that implies he's just done what the owner's wanted?
From the outside it seemed to me as though we did have money to spend but Woody either tried to be too clever in getting the best deal or was just inept in some other way. This is just my opinion and an explanation would be good!
Final point, if he was asked to step down I wonder if he'd be given his old role back, because it seemed like he was actually good at that job!
2.) I don't think the glazers will b too impressed with the 4 million on fellaini he pi$$ed away!
3.) Pennypincher? He lost the club £5 million.
4.) I've tried to keep relatively calm throughout the transfer window and I'm am prepared to give Moyes a few years prove himself as I believe is an excellent manager and deserves the chance.
Whilst I'm not sure 100% what Woodwards job is, it appears to be cIear that getting a money man to be such footballing part of a football club isn't working. What date was it he left the tour to deal with "urgent transfer business? Well almost 2 months later I'd say we have completely failed in the transfer window, which means he has failed. Fellaini is the absolute bare minimum of what we should have got this summer, especially after all the posturing, saying we haven't got a transfer budget and we are only in for the aabsolute best players. Woodward has made the club look spectacularly ridiculous. The whole situation with Herrera on the last day (incidentally whilst Herrera is a good player he is nowhere near thiago, fabregas etc who we should have been in for/bid for properly) and that late, late cock up surrounding Coentrao, just as one last pie into our faces this summer, these have left more than a bad feeling in my mouth.
The final little cherry on top? That little amount extra that we paid for fellaini seems to be the same few million that we are always reluctant to pay in the 1st place, just as a little bit mote comeuppance for woodwards shocking performance all summer. To me it seems fergie got to choose his sucessor, but Gill did not. As much as I want Woodward gone, I don't think the Glazers will find any reason for firing him
5.) Annie, and failed to sell anyone. Last summer Nani would have went to Zenit for €27m if we paid him €5m. Now it looks like we will lose him for nothing next summer. So the club are happy to turn their nose up at €22m. It's all about principle with this club, but sometimes you need to just accept what's on offer or pay what is needed.
6.) Guys, you are focusing far too much on a couple of words there. The fact of the matter is, we hummed and hawed and tried getting cheaper deals. That resulted in a last minute panic buy, whereby, we paid 4mill too much for a player. So yeah, he was penny pinching and it blew up in his face. HB, good points there. Unfortunately, I think he will retain his position.
7.) Absolutely. Man is a pillock. Wasted the funds on Fellaini (by not using the buyout clause earlier) that could have made the difference on the Herrera deal.
Also, how could we be "too late" for Coentrao? Wasting more time on Baines no doubt. What was worse? Getting both with Coentrao on loan or neither?
Usual story. If any "normal" person displayed this much negligence and ignorance of how to perform within their role they would be sacked.
Also, Gill should have been made to stay on in some capacity - even if just for transfers. Would have been a major help for Moyes in his first year at the club. None of this would have happened if so.
8.) I agree Sydney,
All this negotiating with clubs for players that weren't for sale is ridiculous. If the player is transfer listed then yeh go for a deal. But the guy thinks he can do what he likes trying to save as much as he can, and looks a person now.
I think the club need to address it, if they don't they clearly think there way is right, which unfortunatly won't get us anywhere in the future.
02 Sep 2013 22:05:22
Bye bye Herrera deal. I need a drink. where is my scotch!
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Because he couldn't negotiate his way out of a car park.
One of the best goals and in a game that had everything - Giggs v Arsenal FA cup semi-final 1999
While I agree we can put out a very strong team indeed, if Moyes keeps making dubious team selections, we're not going to get the best out of our squad. That is a concern of mine.
Guys, you are focusing far too much on a couple of words there. The fact of the matter is, we hummed and hawed and tried getting cheaper deals. That resulted in a last minute panic buy, whereby, we paid 4mill too much for a player. So yeah, he was penny pinching and it blew up in his face. HB, good points there. Unfortunately, I think he will retain his position.