02 Jun 2021 12:20:56
Can we read into the manager not signing a new contract yet? I would have thought if it was in the works it would have been announced by now.

Maybe he'll put pen to paper at the end of the window and we can proclaim it "like a new signing".

1.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 12:47:26
I am praying the club have seen sense, I desperately hope they are talking to Conte or even Simeone. Before the Ed corrects me I know they are that incompetent they won’t be but every day that Ole hasn’t signed is a day I live in hope. Did the same with Moyes and they are making the same mistake yet again, so frustrating.

The Everton and Crystal Palace jobs are available, would anyone believe that if Ole wasn’t at OT he would even get on a long list, let alone a short list for either job? He wouldn’t, yet the former biggest club in the world has him as manager. It is a farce.

2.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:00:02
I agree Red Man. If the board are in two minds on offering him a new deal than that says it all really.

Not that contracts are worth much in terms of stability, it is peculiar that nothing has been announced yet.

1 year left on his contract. Has won nothing in 3 years. A host of better managers available. It should be a no brainer to replace him.

3.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:12:13
As good a manager as conte is, everywhere he’s goes he seems just start fires and leave. If we crave a short term success, then yes get conte. But I don’t see him doing much long term given his recent history with his clubs.

4.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:23:09
not simone. you think its hard to watch paint dry now.

ageree with caolan conte is just as bad as jose.

5.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:25:49
The long-term dynasty type manager is gone Caolan. I don't like the idea of a revolving door of managers every 18/ 24 months but we should not be rewarding mediocrity.

There is no way to guarantee success but someone like Conte would not just bring the spark the club needs, he'd bring a flamethrower.

Another season of the manager sitting on his heated seats in the dugout watching his monitor is not one i'm looking forward to.

We lost the Europa League final on the bench because one manager knew what be was doing, and one manager didn't.

6.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:36:07
Being happy with one manager who doesn’t know what they are doing is just apathy. Change is tough, easier for some to just sit with what we know. Conte or Simeone would put a fire in us.

{Ed014's Note - does Simeone really play dire football as suggested, I’m sure their goal difference was up there with Barca’s and Madrid’s.

He’s one of THE best managers out there, probably right behind Pep and Jurgen.

Why do so many want to accept less than the best. It’s little wonder you’ve been falling consistently short since 2013.

7.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 13:55:11
I ink Ole has done most of what was sled of him. Moved some on, promoted youth, solidified top 4, created a much better mood around th place. However, the football has been mainly dire and the failure to win a trophy might make Woody realise that Ole has done what he can, time to step it up a level. Somehow though, I doubt it,

8.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 14:04:16
Redman, I'm in agreement-OGS has run his term, had his reflective retirement moment and hopefully is moved on with grace and dignity: that said simeone has had to manage and he has done it well, behind the glitz and glamour of Barcelona and RM and has delivered. Is he the answer : dunno but he like conte has fire in his guts and is a proven winner.
The same old state of affairs in the transfer window is about to open fully and recruiting a top manager is a priority, then the playing staff -get rid of the average/ poor / underperformers and bring in some talent. Every day we are linked with this player etc but city, liverpool, chelsea and a handful of other clubs shine brighter than our recruitment team and get stuff done, whilst we dither about like bumbling idiots looking for 2 bob down the back of the couch. Embarrassing is the only word.

9.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 14:10:18
That's the biggest joke about giving him a new contract. The point of a new extended contract is so he can't just leave if a better offer comes in. Who would offer him a job?

10.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 16:02:16
Funky,

We get linked with everybody because we are Manchester United, our name alone makes people click, I see headlines all the time saying 'Brighton bid for Manchester United target' or 'Manchester United target signs new deal'. Neither of these stories are anything to do with us but our name is next to them. I think that doesn't help and adds to the 'embarrassment' you feel when we only sign 3 or 4 players rather than everyone we are linked with.

I'd imagine if you go on the pages here of the teams you are talking about they are saying the same about their own recruitment, Liverpool fans are for certain as they are in the same boat as us, their name gets clicks so they are linked with silly players they are never going to sign. How many headlines have you seen linking them with Mbappe? I have seen at least 10, there is no chance they will or can afford to sign him but I bet some people click on every single one of them.

11.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 16:03:57
It's a comfort blanket ed. Fans of teams who don't win trophies make up other metrics to try and make their teams seem better.

Arsenal done it for years proclaiming they played the best football but never actually winning anything.

Liverpool fans are probably the worst offenders for rewriting history to make themselves relevant when they were mediocre for two decades.

United fans now seem to think because we have a club legend and a few home grown players in the squad that we're doing things the "right way" with "United DNA" and all that baloney.

The fact is we're struggling to stay relevant in a football world that won't wait for us to catch up. It happened to Liverpool in the early 90s and history repeated itself with us since Fergie left.

The amount of posts patting the manager on the back because of some obscure stat "unbeaten away from home all season" well done but it meant nothing. And actually City amassed more points away than we did.

Everything that is brought up to prove the manager is doing well just smacks as desperation to me.

People talk about the United way. What I think about when I think of United is winning. Nothing more, nothing less. Everything else is just noise.

12.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 16:07:11
Ed14

It suits the rhetoric of the Ole in camp that no one is suitable, they all play defensive football. However, Ole is one of the worst defensive managers, plays don’t lose football and is the new Dave Sexton.

I suggested Simeone several years ago but there is a lack of drive to be the best in the boardroom and part of the fan base. Simeone and Conte are two levels about what we have, would really demand intensity, improvement and it frustrates me that we will likely just continue to be ordinary until the obvious happens. Then they will say there is no one available and go for Southgate. It’s utterly pathetic and this summer I am more frustrated because than usual because we are not even stagnating.

13.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 16:44:55
Lads I’m not saying keep ole in ahead of someone like conte. What I’m getting it at is the mess that conte could leave behind could you back. I know we won’t have another SAF, but klopp and pep are showing decent longevity and I’d rather that, than an 18 month fix. Simone would be a good appointment, but very negative in big games that I’ve seen in the CL.

14.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 17:13:24
Good thread.
Ajh is it a happy camp?
Pogba does not look happy neither keeper is happy new signings telles and vdb neither are happy. Bailly? Rashford looks downright miserable. Bruno doesn't look overjoyed. Granted Shaw and Fred look happy and content maguire too. But its not a overly happy camp. He has created a 1st team and a 2nd team within his squad if your not in his 1st 14 then your nowhere. His handling of his players and squad is poor so rightly they don't look happy.
I'm 100% aligned with redman and mumbles on this.
His tenure has taken the club backwards prolonging that is absolute folly. I don't recognise the team anymore with his negative approach. He is a snr figurehead of this club but I feel he is an complete embarrassment to the club. He is like coco the clown bumbling through interviews stumbling from nonsense cliche to nonsense cliche. The least inspirational and believable character you ever likely to come across. I'd cross the road if he was walking towards me I just can't be bothered with him anymore.

15.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 17:46:18
Caolan, Conte didn't leave much of a mess at Chelsea and unless i Am very much mistaken, there isn't much of a mess at Inter either. He won the leagues with both.

Pep has been at City what 4 years and Klopp 5 i think, but we are talking of 2 of the best in the business and i don't see them staying put much longer. As Shappy has stated several times, we need to be ready to pounce when they do leave. With Ole, you can get all the longevity but we would never be contenders, we will only be pretenders.

16.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 18:11:30
Fair points Kenneth, he certainly picked the mood up initially and that was coming from the camp but maybe the novelty is wearing off.

17.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 18:11:58
UA he always seems to fall out with those above him.

18.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 21:03:54
Caolin

By demanding support to win the league, compete in the serious European competition? Much better we have a manager who acquiesces to everything, talks rubbish, but doesn’t force issues. The owners will love that too. We become Arsenal.

19.) 03 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 23:10:48
Red man I get he’s demanding and a winner, but evidently things do not last with him and behind the scenes it tends to explode. Remember during the season the talk was he was leaving inter. You can say all you want about wanting a winner etc, but you also tell us about the traditions of this club too in your posts. Why sacrifice it for conte, who we get 2 years at best from.

I get you don’t want ole, nor do I think he is going to win us titles- but we need to replace him with someone who can stay here for more than two years. We tried it with Jose and let’s be honest the ending was absolute sh1t.

20.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 08:03:27
why does someone have to be here long term? 3 years is fine if ghetto are winning.
If they are winning they might stay 5. that's a long time nowadays.
I'd take 2 years of conte in a heartbeat if it means winning and competing. #oleoutasap.

21.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 08:52:18
GDS2- I think you misinterpret my post: never said we should recruit everyone we are supposedly linked with my point is the amateurish way we seem to go about business. City, chelsea leicester to name a few seem to identify the players and negotiate to get them. Sancho last season is an example of my point, we cocked it up. Bvd laid down the terms yet we still messed about and in the end we gut reacted and brought in Cavani. He has turned out good as he is a class act but it doesn't always work like that, Falcao/ telles are a prime example. We also let players leave/ go out on loan late window
that can be risky when we don't achieve our targets, the genuine ones. Surely you can see the benefit of securing targets early as possible to hopefully aide gelling into the squad?