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31 Aug 2015 23:19:37
Gary Neville has just said on his twitter account he's heard the fee now for Martial is £59 million. Surely this can't be right? That is beyond crazy if its true. We will end up getting Charlie Austin for about 70 million tomorrow.

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1.) 31 Aug 2015 23:52:10
No he said on his next tweet that it wasn't. Everyone needs to calm down.


2.) 01 Sep 2015 00:16:58
£36m could rise to £59m depending on add ons apparently one of which is if he becomes European player of the year at some point with us, interesting if true.


3.) 01 Sep 2015 08:10:31
"If" he becomes European Player of the Year with us, however many million will be a bargain.


4.) 01 Sep 2015 08:34:02
I believe nevilles next tweet after that was a sarcastic comment. Basically still saying it's ridiculous


 

 

 

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30 Sep 2013 02:02:26
I think everyone knew deep down that this bad start had the potential to happen. It almost seems like a perfect storm. fergie retiring, new manager taking over after 26 years of stability, very average squad for the most part, awful transfer window, difficult opening fixtures etc. so honestly I really can't say i'm surprised at the way it's gone so far. I think the real problem I have is the way the team is playing, and has been playing for the last 3 or 4 years. Fergie covered a lot of it up with the simple fact that he kept getting results, without ever really playing that well with any consistency. There have been maybe a handful of games over the last few seasons where I was excited by the way we played, and isn't that why we all watch football? It's about entertainment for me anyway and over the last few years I simply haven't been enjoying watching us anywhere near as much as I used to, and I have supported united since 1979. Christ the teams in the 80's were more exciting to watch than they are now, and we were rubbish back then! I guess it comes down to what you want from your team. I would take several 4-3's with the result going either way rather than a string of boring 1-0 wins. That's just my opinion but surely I can't be the only one who is uninspired by the way we have been playing for the past 4 years?

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1.) Spot on. Ever since the sale of Ronaldo when the proceeds were not reinvested in the squad, many of us have suspected that given the level of debt the funds were not genuinely available, and that this day was ultimately inevitable. We were all looking for something in the summer beyond a derisory purported offer for Fabregas, and the signing of Fellaini.

Without the players to generate excitement, with a manager who does not have the tactical nous to compete at the highest levels or the vision to purchase well, and what appears to be bad blood between RVP and Rooney, it is hard to see anything but a progressive decline.

We have had a great run and in many ways we shouldn't complain if the baton is shifted - if it was just about the football it wouldn't be so bad. My greatest fear remains that the decline will lead to a complete breakdown in the financial position of the club and that if the Glazers don't do something dramatic, we could be headed the way of Rangers.


2.) Peashooter, MU could never do a Rangers whilst under ownership of the Glazers. Anyone who has the smallest of idea of how the financial side works would know that. It was a poor result and I cannot comment on the performance as I missed the game. The only part I got to see was Fellaini straying offside onward. Disappointing, but I cannot believe some of the stuff I have read on here. The board need to back Moyes this winter and buy him the players that he wants, but anyone who thinks Moyes will be sacked this season doesn't know how MU work.


3.) Clearly it depends on results. A CL berth and a few good cup runs and the economics will be okay this season. But long term no CL and unexciting players will = sponsor withdrawal + empty seats + lack of new quality players, which will accelerate any decline. Under those circumstances, the loss of revenue could make the debt unserviceable and the Glazers will have to sell or take the club down.


4.) Sydney

If we finish outside the top 4 80% likely hood he gets sacked depending on where we finish. If we miss CL qualification from group stages and drift away from the top 4 as the season goes on, 100% sacked and will not be a united manger come May.

Before you start arguing for those 2 things to happen, it will mean we will have a run of very poor results and one shock after another and If you think Benitez was treated poorly, the fans will crucify Moyes and he will be gone.

Needless to say Financially he will murder us if that happens and you can't go from 1st to nothing and as you keep telling everyone we have a great squad, so how does manchester united work and what is their tolerance level for that kind of seismic failure.


5.) Peashooter, that is all fantasy and quite frankly ridiculous.


6.) Shahram, MU won't finish outside the top four so it's a bit of a pointless post.


7.) Sydney

Let's theoretically say we did, do you see him keeping his job?

You know my view, always though we would have to fight it between 3rd or 4th and top 2 out of the question IMO.


8.) I think he would keep his job if there were no player versus manager issues. But I think we will comfortably finish within the top four so I do not believe it's an issue.


9.) I would be very disappointed if we keep him if we do not finish top four and firmly in Redman and Nomidfield and some of the other camp then :).


10.) Syd
It was only a couple of days you argued we would win the league .
Top 4 will be tight this year United city spurs Chelsea arsenal even the scouse could all have a shout


11.) Jred, I said today that we will win the league and I believe we will. City are the benchmark and they are just three points ahead of us. Some very bizarre overreactions on here today. If you seriously believe Liverpool will be a threat to our season then you must be going a bit dizzy.


12.) Syd
I think the scouse will push for top 4 but will prob end up 5/6 but I think they will be lot closer than last year .
Suarez sturridge and couthinho will be a handful and Gerrard and Lucas are a decent pair. A lot will depend on injuries though same goes for arsenal.
A bit dizzy, well like I always say let's wait until the end of the season


13.) This coming from a man who says Liverpool will finish 20 odd points behind United. Get real. Your as deluded as the rest and probably more so

Most of the United fans can be honest with their assessment of David "The one" Moyes, and they can also be honest on the fact that, actually, you just aren't a very good team. IMO, you brought in fuzzy head, and that was a big mistake. He's not up to it. You needed much more

The only world class player you have now is RVP. Your defenders are shocking, and Vidic and Ferdinand are just like a training ground dummy's

What other good players do you have? None is the answer. The thing is, last season you won the league, but you weren't a great team. This season you have been found out and, and it's not going to get any better

Apart from fuzzy head, where is the transition? The new manager? Nah, Whisky nose will still be having his say i'm sure. I can see United still outside the top 4 up to and after Xmas, and if that proves to be the case, you won't get into it. One thing though is certain, you won't win the League, and looking at the season so far, you would have done well to get 4th!

Oh and you had a JD weekend is why you haven't been on? S##te! You can't take the criticism after your ridiculous predictions of winning the League with the best team in the league


14.) I think Liverpool will finish 6th at the very best. When they start hitting the more difficult games it will start to show. They are running on high confidence at the moment, whereas we are low on confidence. The gulf in class will start to show sooner than later.


15.) RD, I don't think I have ever read so much nonsense in one post.

MU will finish 20 points ahead of Liverpool. I have no doubt about that.

MU will win the league, at the very least we will finish second. You will be 6th.


16.) Syd
To be fair we have issues at the back and in cm and outwide.
We are a better team but gulf in class not so sure .
I can see positives in the scouse like I said the front 3 and Gerrard and Lucas.
There back 4 aren't great but aren't that bad.
There squad is a bit light so injuries could take a toll .


 

 

02 Sep 2013 22:18:05
a website has just been reporting that the Herrera deal Is dead and according to Balague there were imposters in spain trying to do the deal pretending to be man united representatives! what the hell is going on?

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29 Jul 2015 18:31:51
"to raise funds for aguero". because City will obviously just sell him as they need the money?. and don't mind selling arguably the best player in the EPL and one of the top forwards in world football? Maybe just a rumour I know but makes no sense at all to me. Even if Madrid offered 100 million I would be very surprised if City sold him. I would love Bale to come to United more than anyone, but I just can't see it happening, this season at least. If he has another difficult season in Madrid then maybe next year it's more of a possibility.

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So Arsenal get Oezil and we get fellaini, if we are lucky. I give up I really do.

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Why would we waste time bidding for a player we have no chance of getting?! Did you watch the Valencia vs Barcelona game tonight? Barcelona would be insane to sell Fabregas. We may as well put a £25M bid in for Messi while we are at it! He might just fancy trying to keep us in the top half of the table as apposed to having a realistic chance of winning everything with Barca.

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I wouldn't be surprised at all! We seem to have become a club that can't sign ANYONE! I think we would struggle to get a player on loan from Scunthorpe the way it's going! We aren't just standing still we are going backwards at a rate of knots! It can't be right when we are playing a near 40 year old in our midfield! This season already looks like damage limitation to me. and if we fail to even finish in the top 4 then we will be finished as a major force for the foreseeable future IMO. These are dark days indeed.

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I think the real problem here is that woodward, or whoever is making these bids, obviously hasn't got a clue how the whole transfer side of things works because it's becoming a sad joke now. Either that or we have no intention of actually buying any of these players and it's all just a big con. "well we tried but. ". I can just about handle the former, but if it's the latter then it's very worrying indeed. All together now. GLAZERS OUT! :-)
ps Surely Beckham could afford to buy the club! A true fan as owner. I can but dream.

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15 Sep 2015 19:57:23
Good post this. For me it was after watching the first game I can remember on TV which was the 1979 FA cup final. I watched it with my uncle who was a big Liverpool fan. I still hadn't decided which team to support as I was only 8 at the time, but because my uncle obviously hated united he wanted Arsenal to win, so I was cheering for united. So they are 2-0 down and then score twice in the last 5 minutes only for Alan Sunderland to score with the last kick of the game and Arsenal win 3-2. I could quite easily have chosen to follow Arsenal after that, especially as I remember being quite shocked at Alsn Sunderland's celebration after scoring the winner. running the whole length of the pitch like he had scored the winner in the world cup final! But I also remember being so thrilled at the way United had fought back with those 2 late goals and I decided then they were going to be my team. Think I made the right choice although for the next 14 years it didn't always seem like it!

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01 Sep 2015 00:14:10
Its still a shocking way to behave for a club of uniteds stature. So we are trying to settle petty scores now? And upsetting players and clubs in the process? No wonder no one wants to sign for us. We have become a complete shambles of a club over the last 2 years and its getting worse not better. What chance do you think madrid would now sell bale, or anyone for that matter, to us in the future? The people in charge at united need to take a lesson in how to run a club. They could start by giving swansea a ring.

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Watching the arsenal vs Napoli game at the moment and arsenal, and in particular ozil, look superb. Did we really turn down the chance to sign him?! Something seriously wrong somewhere if we chose fellaini over ozil. I wonder if that has something to do with the our players looking quite un-interested and de-motivated so far this season? I mean if you were RVP and saw united buying felliani when arsenal get ozil, wouldn't you be a bit cheesed off and wonder about the direction of the team?

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I pretty much agree with everything you say. We really do need to change our style of play if we have any chance of success in the future, especially now that the motivator that was SAF has gone. Unfortunately I don't think moyes is the man to do it. He appears too defensive in his approach to the game and that just isn't the united way. He seems far too concerned about how other teams can hurt us rather than how we can hurt them. It doesn't bode well I have to say, but I could be proved wrong if he is given the time. I just don't think he will get it if things don't start improving.

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Hooray we signed Fellaini! Now watch out the rest of the league as we BATTER you into submission. sigh.

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