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17 Apr 2022 12:55:19
Just got to watch yesterday's game.

Got the 3 points was the only positive to take from it.

Just one thing I noticed but could be wrong. when ronny scored the 3rd and ran to the corner to celebrate nearly every player celebrated with him but I didn't see maguire come to congratulate him. and he's usually the 1st in.

Like said could be wrong but have watched the replays a few times now.

jayo84

1.) 17 Apr 2022 13:38:47
Probably not much to read into with that, other than it would take Maguire at a full sprint a good couple of minutes to reach the corner they were celebrating in so he probably couldn't be bothered.


 

 

30 Dec 2021 09:35:50
To nite I think is key to how the season is going to go for ragnick.

If he starts the players continuously under preforming then the only thing as a fan we can conclude from that is player power still rules.

Ole had his favourites and never dropped them ragnick has overseen very poor performances from Ronaldo rashford maguire fernandes in particular. If he continues to start these guys then he has no one to blame but himself.

I'd rather start with lads that give 100% every game and lose then continue to watch the unforgiveable lack of effort from the current starters.

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1.) 30 Dec 2021 10:06:02
The problem is who does he play in their place?

Maguire will probably start, the other options are Varane coming back from an injury and was responsible for Newcastle's goal. Lindelof who has had breathing issues and might not be fit. Bailly who had left for the Afcon but has flown back, or Mengi. The reality is Maguire will probably start due to the limited other options.

Bruno I think is suspended, so shouldn't play at all.

Ronaldo will probably start as Rashford and Greenwood have been poor, while Cavani has struggled to be fit and might not have enough in the tank for 60 minutes plus. Meaning a role off the bench is probably more likely.

Rashford will probably start owing to the lack of form, injuries and suspensions to other players.

While a lot of our regular first teamers are struggling for form, the truth is we don't have top quality players in reserve pushing them for their spots.

Take out Maguire, Ronaldo, Rashford, Bruno, Greenwood, Fred and McTominay who have all struggled for form recently.

Add to that players like Lindelof, Varane, Pogba and Cavani who have been struggling for fitness then what would our team look like?

DDG, Dalot, Bailly, Mengi, Telles, Donny, Matic, Sancho, Amad, Elanga, Lingard.

Is that really the side you'd like to see? Do you think that side is really more likely to win games than one containing some of our struggling players.


2.) 30 Dec 2021 10:08:08
Jimjams,

Not many top managers look to start through mid season. Utd aren't set up well either. Utd would be a hard sell to a top manager. Rangnick is there to set the club up for the potentia new manager.

Remain patient. It will take time for the team to gel etc.


3.) 30 Dec 2021 10:25:00
The only one that can't be dropped is ronaldo, the others won't score as many as him, give him service and he will score he has proved that already

Fred and mctom are one if the main issues along with a shocking defence.


4.) 30 Dec 2021 11:07:46
DDG, AWB, Bailly, Maguire (for his massive head against burnley, nothing else), Shaw, Matic, Mctom, Lingard, Sancho, Greenwood, Cavani.

That would be my team tonight.


5.) 30 Dec 2021 11:09:04
Ralfs main job isn't coaching. He will oversee the set up. Don't be unfair.


6.) 30 Dec 2021 11:18:19
The team isn't short of top players, in fact we have one of the best attacking squads in the Premier league. It's the application of the players lazy can't be arsed attitude.
The basics of a football game is to try and pass and keep possession of the football. For some reason we find it impossible to do that, even 5-10 yard balls.
That performance the other night against Newcastle was nothing short of embarrassing and the players should be accountable for it.
No matter what team, formation he puts out there was no excuse for that.


7.) 30 Dec 2021 11:22:58
Too many players are out of form imo.
We need that 1 big win to bring the spark back.


8.) 30 Dec 2021 11:42:13
Bring the spark back? When was it there :D
I can honestly only think of a handful of times since Fergie left that I've been genuinely excited watching Utd. Most recently in the doomed back three formation against Spurs when it looked like we had a new solution and scored a few crackers. But make no mistake, even when we win it's bloody dire.


9.) 30 Dec 2021 12:28:48
Part of the problem is that Ralf now has to undertake the reset we were told started three years ago, but didn’t

The club chose the players over Mourinho and let a lack of challenge, lesser standards pervade the whole club the last three years.

Now the players are being shown for what they are, they are even whinging about later training sessions and they have to go home in the dark, poor things. Weed them out starting now, sell those who will not adapt or move forward. Rangnick is not the long term manager but will learn a lot from managing them and will be able to be more specific with his recommendations as a consultant

The club needs to stand right behind Rangnick and the players need to know who is in charge. The last 3 years it had been all soft and arm round shoulder which only works so long and the players get soft, think they are more important than the manager. Now needs sorting out brutally if needed. Sell those who whinge or don’t comply. The results will be whatever this season, we must look longer term.


10.) 30 Dec 2021 12:41:26
I feel it is very unfair to judge the manager at this point. No manager could come in and turn this group of players into champions. Rangnick has not even had the chance to bring players in to put his own philosophy into effect. Our problem essentially is poor recruitment over the last few years. Sir Alex and Sir Matt didn’t tend to buy players on a whim. They did their homework and bought players who had character. That is what we are lacking. So I hope that Rangnick is given an opportunity to see if he can turn things around.


11.) 30 Dec 2021 13:20:39
Ralf came here (i think) with a clear plan. He is "interim" manager. He will lay the foundations working with the group of players he have, will make his reports of who stays who must go and then at the end of the season will decide if we are ready for a new proactive coach or he continues for one more year.
Ralf is not Konte. He is not a coach with immediate results. He will not give them the physiological boost like Konte does. But he will lay the foundations and that's what we need now after so many years beeing in the wrong direction. Ralf has not many successes in recent times at coaching and we knew that and we knew for day one that that's not the criteria. Ralfs main job is to bring the right ethos and bring the right persons to move the club forward so that's the criteria and we must not be unfair with him.


12.) 30 Dec 2021 13:31:30
Talk of favourites is dull and boring. There are players who haven’t had a look in under 3 or 4 managers now and that speaks volumes about them.

We don’t see them training or know them as characters but I don’t think players like Bailly and VDB aren’t selected because they ain’t anyone’s favourite.


13.) 30 Dec 2021 17:24:11
Rangnick will not be able to change thing around completely in 5 months but he will certainly be able to put his stamp on things. Hopefully, the incoming permanent manager and Rangnick are on the same wavelength and can work together.


 

 

20 Nov 2021 17:38:42
Just a question. are reporters given certain guidelines to stay withing when asking post match questions to managers?

jayo84

1.) 20 Nov 2021 17:46:14
The reporters from the broadcasters have relationships with staff members in many clubs so I general are quite well behaved in interviews.


2.) 20 Nov 2021 17:47:21
Don't get me started on that one Jayo?
The same old clichéd nonsense.


3.) 20 Nov 2021 17:49:04
Was wondering why Geoff goes easy on him!


4.) 20 Nov 2021 18:19:53
Did you think he was easy on him? I thought compared to normal he was quite hard on him, he also possibly didn’t want to kick a man while he was down, what more could Ole say? He looks like he’s aged about 20 years in 4 weeks and fortunately this should / will put him out of his misery.


5.) 20 Nov 2021 18:36:49
I have no sympathy for ole at all that this decision will be made he deserves to be fired.
However I would have empathy with any human being going through what he is. I thought shreeves was also assisting empathy to a man whi is suffering death by a thousand cuts in terms of his job.
I'm really looking forward to seeing who they appoint and what direction it brings us.


 

 

07 Nov 2021 13:14:40
It's a sad state of affairs when I find myself watching a Scottish football match and the 2 teams are playing with more heart and skill than utd have in the last 3 months.

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03 Nov 2021 06:20:46
How is Harry maguire still getting a start. he is progressively getting worse game by game. if that's even possible at this stage.

Watching maguire now reminds me of the time that supporter came on to the pitch b4 a champions league game in the full kit and posed for the team photo.

He is an pure imposter.

Bailly hasn't played a game in how long and apart from the odd shaky moment (which is standard for him) he was excellent.

As long as maguire is in our defence we its midtable mediocrity for us.

jayo84

1.) 03 Nov 2021 06:56:40
Ole doesn't pick players on merit.
No matter how badly you perform, he still picks his favorites.
Maguire has been shambolic for a month. Ole just doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes.

Bailly's interceptions and blocking kept us in the game. The midfield was so easy to pass through.
We still don't play as a team. Lack of coherence and understanding between players is down to poor coaching.


2.) 03 Nov 2021 07:47:44
Harry is a fraud. I wish Bailly could stay fit.


3.) 03 Nov 2021 08:08:05
When he was signed a couple of years ago, some lauded him as an excellent signing. He's been far from that and has shown some of his worst form this season. He's simply a bang average Premier League defender who shouldn't have been signed even if he was available for half the cost.

Ole picks his favourites and it simply doesn't matter how they perform, they will always get plenty of game time. Maguire has been culpable for quite a few goals already this season. He should be dropped but he won't be.


4.) 03 Nov 2021 08:31:38
Bailly should be played more often. Last Christmas he was excellent
whilst Lindelof was out. As soon as Lindelof was available again he didn't play until nearly back of April along with Tuanzebe who coincidently had a great game against PSG then was immediately dropped. No wonder some players have confidence issues.


5.) 03 Nov 2021 09:07:13
In many ways Maguire represents the team. He goes through periods of good and bad form. The problem is when it’s bad he’s horrific and in reality a top class CB shouldn’t suffer from such prolonged periods of terrible form.

I don’t think he’s helped by the manager who obviously plays him when he’s clearly not and is intent on playing him through these bad periods. The problem with defenders playing poorly is it invariably leads to goals.

Bailly has been lauded by some but he was equally culpable for both goals. The second one was particularly bad as he just let the CF run off him. Granted he wasn’t helped by Maguire who was agonising slow to cover, it was pathetic defending from both CB’s! Ironically despite his mistakes Bailly actually had a very good game and also saved us on several occasions.

Maguire probably needs to be dropped for his own good and whilst Bailly might seem like a better option at the moment he’s also prone to making mistakes and lapses in concentration. It’s a mess.

Sometimes when your teammate is having a bad time you all dig in together, help him out and protect him. This lot are just leaving him brutally exposed and the whole team is suffering.

I think players are just doing their own thing. I accept Spurs are poor but in that game it looked like the players were reasonably well coached and had worked on a plan all week in training with each player understanding their role in the team .

Yesterday was a disaster. We saw Cavani lead the line brilliantly against Spurs and was up close to Ronaldo. Rashford comes back into the team and just stands on the LW. He didn’t work hard defensively and when he got the ball he just wanted to run forward cut inside and shoot. Can someone tell me what position Rashford played yesterday? He definitely didn’t play upfront with Ronaldo?! Is that Rashford or the coaches? It’s all such a mess!


6.) 03 Nov 2021 09:40:57
This is Baillys first game this season. He will be rusty. It is easy to slate him, but he did make some important blocks and interceptions last night. Players need game time, not o e game every 20 matches.


7.) 03 Nov 2021 09:50:02
Well I thought Bailley was actually pretty solid last night. I expect to see him start more in this formation.


8.) 03 Nov 2021 09:52:36
How is bailly at fault for the second goal? he's done his job and played him offside.

Maguire is the one who is not in line with the other defenders, probably because he's worried about his lack of pace, that's fine we all know he's slower than a turtle but he then further compounds his mistake by calling for offside while play is still going instead of actually dealing with the situation.


9.) 03 Nov 2021 11:50:21
Harry has no football brain and shluld be no where near our first 11.


10.) 03 Nov 2021 12:11:20
DSG - I take your point mate but not sure he should be playing offside with no pressure on the ball. Conventional wisdom dictates that if there is space in behind and the player has time on the ball the defensive line should drop. I don’t think Bailly should have been trying to play offside in that situation but accept if others have a different opinion. I think it was poor from both of them.

I thought Bailly had a good game but to suggest he was perfect and it was all Maguire’s fault I believe is misleading. I accept Bailly hasn’t played football for a long time so that must be taken into consideration. Maguire has been very poor all season.


 

 

 

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28 Apr 2022 22:48:33
Been left on the pitch for nearly 80 mins was a bit of a head scratcher.

Walking around the place. Once I seen him sprint back. So so frustrating.

Mata has done more in his last 2 appearances of the bench then rashford has done all year.

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21 Nov 2021 11:51:11
I'd take a few years of pain if it meant we could see over the initial few years the right things are been put in place with players and a squad all playing for each other while doing it with a quality style of football.

Instant success while obviously is great I would forfeit it if it meant we weren't in this situation again which I fear we will be if we go the quick fix route.

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21 Nov 2021 10:58:56
As mentioned in previous posts I don't think it matters who the next manager is - Top class or a an up and coming - unless there is fundamental change at the very top and a start over with a clean state we will be in same managerial position in 2/ 3 years time.

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20 Nov 2021 17:49:04
Was wondering why Geoff goes easy on him!

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26 Sep 2021 13:19:10
We all know ole is to blame for the way we are playing at the moment my point was in relation to a new namager coming in. history shows even the best of managers with unbelievable CV's that come to manage utd fail due to what seems to me 'player power'. just my opinion ?.

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