14 Sep 2024 06:44:17
Game day
12 years ago we had Robin Van Persie and Rooney although Roo was injured when we played Southampton. Where are our goals coming from today? Zirkzee says he is not a traditional 9 or 10 but a 9.5. Rashford, well we know. Garnacho is the liveliest but will he even start? Bruno plays and scores in fits and starts.
We have to start dominating games and scoring multiple goals. Today must be the day. No more excuses.
1.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 08:02:27
Sadly, there will always be more excuses where Ten Haag is involved.
2.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 08:45:42
Ugarte can make a big difference today. Against stronger teams I’d expect Mainoo to sit in next to him but today, if Ugarte plays I think we can afford to allow Mainoo and Fernandes to get further up the pitch. Amad is currently our biggest goal threat. I think Rashford will start again unfortunately based on having a week off international duty. If we can get Mainoo and Fernandes further forward hopefully that would push Zirkee higher too. If Casemiro starts I can see Mainoo sitting in with him.
3.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 09:54:33
Ports
Will ETH start Ugarte though?
I will be annoyed if he starts Rashford and Cas and leaves Garnacho and Ugarte on the bench.
Given where I am I can’t watch today, so frustrated. Maybe get highlights later.
4.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 10:16:18
I do get frustrated that he doesn’t throw players straight in but hoping his comments about being first back and being available are leaning towards him starting.
I said I would have given Rashford til international break to prove he deserves to start. He done nothing in those games. I’ll be gutted if he starts but feel like he will.
5.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 10:20:18
Really don't care who starts and assuming will depend on data from training on players being ready or not and risk of injury. A win is a must and hopefully a comfortable one.
The score line is always a function of players being clinical with a good pass or good finish and we have been far from that so far this season.
6.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 10:33:17
Data from training has not worked so far though has it?
Ugarte Garnacho and Amad need to start.
It is also not just this season though is it Ahmad? Last season as well.
7.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 10:56:14
Ahmad already hedging as he also knows that with EtH, its his favouritism and not the better players. Training data and all is nonsense and just a diversion technique.
8.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 11:29:49
Well Rashford starts but Ugarte does not, beyond a joke now that Rashford plays when he is playing so poor and Garnacho has one bad game and gets benched.
9.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 11:43:38
Diallo is arguably our only remotely in-form player atm so good to see him start. Rash over Garnacho is a worry. Maybe in an hour I'll be eating my words or it will be another few days of Rash bashing here.
10.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 12:14:05
UA
What am i hedging. I said could care less who starts. You guys are funny if you don't get what you think in terms of starters without having kicked a ball yet, its over in your heads.
Redman
Your man love for Garnacho/ dislike for Rash is obsessives stuff.
I am actually having a laugh watching children have melt downs because their fav player is not starting. Player fc we are.
The manager will take all the grief and venting if it does not work out, his team, his selection and let's play some football.
The good news is Southampton lead the league in errors leading to goals and we are second lol 4 goals and 3 respectively. should see some goals today.
11.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 14:55:49
Starting Garnacho and Ugarte would have been stupid having just finished trips to SA. Even your beloved Fergie wouldn't have been so stupid.
Some people ?.
12.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 15:00:00
Ahmad
I just think Garnacho is a real talent, should be first choice and if we allow ETH to drive him away it is criminal. As for Rashford it’s about effort and attitude and then the message it sends when selected over others. I see he scored so you can tell us about his contribution.
13.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 15:26:12
Job done comfortable win. Tricky 1st 30 min dalot was having a tough time but 2nd half was pretty easy. Good 3 points and a pretty way cup tie on Wed will give ugarte garnacho Anthony some much needed game time. The likes of martinez maz mainoo should all get a night off imo.
14.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 16:28:09
Very comfortable win against a side that I’ll be very surprised to see in the Prem next year. But it’s the fixture we needed, let’s try and get a little run together.
15.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 16:58:27
Redman
You have a love affair with Garnacho's ability grossly underestimate rash. I would wager we can change 10 managers and rash will be ahead of him in the pecking order. Garnacho is work in progress.
You live in Manchester if I am not mistaken, Talk to people if you know any at the club even with all the new people and see what they think of rash. Its not an ETH fav thing, al of them think he is a top player. Ruud thinks no one close to him in the squad atm. I know ruud :)
16.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:06:53
There was nothing comfortable about those first thirty minutes, but after the penalty save it was one way traffic.
Would have been nice to have seen Zirkzee get on the scoresheet and slightly worrying to see three of our CBs picking up injuries, but other than that, there were quite a few positives to take away from the match.
17.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:10:18
God help us if Rashford is the benchmark for the mighty Hojlund and Zirkzee to aspire to lol.
18.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:20:48
Why would Garnacho be driven away by Ten Hag.
He was with National team all summer then had to have his FIFA mandated break. He missed all preseason and so is behind where he would normally be.
Rashford and Diallo are much further along physically in terms of readiness.
We have three main players for the wide positions with others seemingly behind in the pecking order, all three of the main men will see a lot of game time this year.
Garnacho will get his chance to relegate Rashford or Diallo to the bench, its in his hands to make it impossible to be left out.
Finally there is an argument that he is most dangerous attacking tired full backs with fresh legs, its an argument to be made for any winger especially one with pace and hard running.
I am not too worried over Garnacho getting chances this year at all and I do think there is a decent chance that he pushes Rashy to the bench, or even better pushes Rashy or Diallo to another level this year.
19.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:22:34
Spenno
He has 131 goals for united being 26 years old. Ff any of those 2 score 131 total by the time they are 26 thye would be considered great players.
They regard him very highly. They are the guys in charge and he will get picked unless injured pr very off form.
20.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:24:40
I imagine Ruud has a much better benchmark for Hojlund and Zirkzee to aspire too.
21.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 17:29:19
Don't worry Ahmad, just tugging on your Rashy heartstrings :p.
22.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 18:11:18
Ahmad
I am a proud Mancunian from a long line of them.
My Mancunian United supporting mates said they would have binned Rashford off last season, all of them.
Let’s see, but I can bet Real would come knocking for Garnacho a long time before Rashford.
23.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 20:46:00
Ahmad I love your posts but Rashford has been awful for over a season, I am also perplexed why he keeps getting picked although this time he hasn't had long haul travel so maybe this weekend makes sense. However, other weekends ?♂️.
24.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 21:07:55
I like the fact that ETH is backing Rashford. It's clear he is going through a tough time. But I thought he did well today, could've scored more. Plus the first few games, he hasn't exactly been helped by the teams poor form going forward.
If he kicks on now with a few more goals, ETH will feel he will have been vindicated.
25.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 21:56:20
AJH
I am just sharing what people within the club think comparative to people outside. I get involved in the convo because some think its a eth fav thing. its not and seems to be a internal belief by many.
I think a lot of what he does gets scrutinized to the umpteen degree whilst others get a free pass. when we lose where half the team were piss poor, the focus gets shifted on rash. I still hold the view if we are going to have a good season rash has to be on form. Said the same last year very early when he was off form and people were asking for his head. Garna will not carry this team but rash on form can, that's the difference between the two imo.
Its fashionable to make.
26.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 22:13:23
Was was okay today. Not good, just okay. But this is a big improvement from where he has been. Nicely taken goal, hopefully it gives him some confidence.
Garna has to work his way back into the team. Again. And unfortunately for him, amad is currently our best winger and rashford won't be dropped. Maybe he gets a hattrick midweek and forces his way into the first team.
27.) 14 Sep 2024
14 Sep 2024 22:29:54
AJH,
I think you are one of the very good posters here but you don't post as much like before.
Rash had a very very bad year last year personally and on the pitch. This idea that eth is incompetent and has fav and picks rash over garna is absolute nonsense.
They used to say the same about antony and now he can't get a minute.
He is very highly thought of by almost all the leadership and coaching group. I posted early last year that if we are going to have a good year rash has to get on form and still believe that this year. Same goes for bruno and he drives me nuts with some of the stuff he does. those two whether we like it or not need to get on form for us to kick on imo.
Grana had 7 goals in 30 starts last year most think he had a good year. Rash had 7 goals in 26 starts being seriously off form and useless by most peoples account.
Rash has become our poster child of blame when many in the team performs poorly on many occasions.
Most who like to make it its rash vs garna thing miss the point.
28.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 05:07:26
Ahmad
Rashford isn’t our “poster child of blame”, he hasn’t given his all to the cause and that is unacceptable, hence why he should have been dropped a long time ago. Players can have bad games but to waltz around with what appears to be a couldn’t care less attitude stinks frankly. That shirt is precious, worn by some truly great players who have given their all and literally some did. Rashfords attitude to the shirt has been disgraceful for a long time. His latest stuff on feeling that he is being bullied by ex United pros shows his mental fragility and it’s shocking.
You go around accusing others of having their own favourite or bias against Rashford yet you are the one with more favouritism to Rashford than anyone has to any other player.
Yes, I think Garnacho should play above Rashford, the lad has a higher ceiling potential than Rashford, but he has to be given an even chance based on performances and he hasn’t been. Rashford has been terrible yet chosen in front of him, that’s favouritism by ETH.
29.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 08:05:34
Redman
United is not about Rashford or Garna and I don't tune in happy or angry because one is playing and another is not.
I don't have these hard opinions like you and don't throw stuff at the manager labelling him. I don't buy into the stuff that rash is thrash or cas is rubbish. Form is a temporary thing and many players go through tough periods.
If he plays Maguire instead of Deligt that his decision and there must be underlying reasons.
As we get healthier we will have selection headaches, which is the managers issue and assuming he will be delighted given he has never had that luxury since he has been here and it will only benefit the team.
Hoiland will be back soon and he needs to decide if he plays Rasmus, Zirksee together and someone else gets dropped or plays one of them and the other has to play his part off the bench.
Shaw will be back soon and then its Dalot or Mazroui as right back. That's a positive but making it a negative just because he picks one over the other given who they prefer is more player fc rather than team fc.
30.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 08:36:54
The problem with Rashford Ahmad is that every team needs a talisman to look to when things are going tough and Rashford should be that guy now but we haven’t seen it enough when we needed it. He’s not a kid anymore and he’s on huge wages. Now wages shouldn’t make a difference but they do to fans because we expect performances to reflect a players wages. We haven’t seen a match winning performance from Rashford for 18 months maybe? But we have from Garnacho.
Yesterday he was better. He was more direct. When you listen to players who have trained and played against him he’s usually the name they mention as toughest and most skilful etc. the season he scored 17 Premier league goals he was fantastic and showed his talent. Last season 7 in the league isn’t really acceptable for a player who isn’t in the team for their defensive attributes.
Let’s hope yesterday’s game sparks some better performances from him now but we can only go so long waiting for him to hit form.
31.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 09:46:40
Ports
I agree he has not performed to anyone's expectations especially after his 2022/ 2023 season. I would never argue that and also get it given his profile and wage, he is the one that will get the brunt of it when things are not going well.
I think Bruno this season is well below par and not on from. If you were managing these guys you have a choice of dropping them or playing them to get them through a bad patch because the talent is there. Imo if we are going to have a year where the fan base will be satisfied and happy both need to get on from and you are not going to find form sitting on the bench even if it means you have to live with them struggle in games until they click.
Garna had 7 goals from 30 starts last year and everyone thought he had a great year. Rash had a horrendous year and scored 7 from 26 or 24 starts. Rash on form is unplayable for most defenders and has a very high ceiling imo.
for me its like when your kids are struggling with something in life and make mistakes, you can either be unforgiving, tough on them thinking that would help fix it or be a friend and help them get through it. I chose the second option all the way through and they have turned out to be awesome young men today.
32.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 14:50:50
Ahmad
Rashford is no leader, he said he was being bullied by comments from ex players. Nowhere near Garnachos potential.
33.) 15 Sep 2024
15 Sep 2024 20:43:46
Ahmad, but how many assists, penalties won, general influence on the game, defensive work and the fact that Garnacho was 19y old and it was his first serious season?