Manchester United Banter Archive September 02 2013

02 Sep 2013 23:48:56
Sly sports understands conetroe will at lb evra lw .

That's it I'm turning over

I'm with you Jred, if anything it would be the other way round.

Syd
That doesn't make it better if cont is our new lw arrgghhh.
Like him as a lb he's a good player potential very good but I have concerns about United fellaini and him aren't the answer.
Is kags a moyes player or is fellaini?
I though we would go for creative cm and as you pointed out I was wrong but what does that say about the direction we are going

02 Sep 2013 23:48:09
Phil jones not good enough . Rafael injured. Evra inconsistent . Why would a loan deal for a very good left back be bad business? As for creative midfielder we do have kagawa and Rooney and some very promising young players . We are champions and I have been fortunate enough to witness success for 20 years can't last forever but will come again . Give the team and moyes a chance . Maybe fallaini will prove to be a Great signing .

Jones not good enough? Interesting. Since when?

Im sure that's what the liverpool fans started off saying

To be fair, and going by the other names he mentioned, I think he meant as a full-back mate.

Don't think anyone doubts his potential as a centre half.

02 Sep 2013 23:45:10
So Herrara's transfer fell through because United were questioning the value of the buy out clause. yet they appeared to pay £4m extra for Fellaini. hilarious. Talk about incompetence.

02 Sep 2013 23:40:51
Welcome Marourane and Fabio to the theatre of dreams
At least we signed someone but am curious to know why we didn't just activate Fellanis buy out clause and save ourselves a few million.Woodward needs to be replaced after his amateurish display in the transfer window.Anyway glad this circus is over and back to the job of trying to retain the title.we need to get behind the team now and the manager
TheSpartanred

Because we were working on Plan A when the clause was active and he's Plan B/C?

If you were trying to buy a bottle of Hendricks Gin you shouldn't care about Gordons being on offer until you can't get Hendricks.

02 Sep 2013 23:40:23
Looks like the Herrera deal didn't get done over 6m, Woodward being incompetent didn't know about the taxes in Spain. We were willing to pay the 36 buy out clause but somehow we didn't know about the taxes. A total embarrassment and I really feel sorry for Herrera, he took the medical and was willing to take a pay cut and had his heart chattered. I bet the Glazers skim 6m a week from the club.

If we are serious, surely we would go in for him again in Jan. won't be cup tied for the champo league either. I would of loved him in, big shame

02 Sep 2013 23:34:44
Positives are left back addressed,

Felliani brought in,

KAGAWA STAYS!

get Rooney fit and let's replace Woodchip and also have
Coantrao have a word with his mate Ronny and we are set!

I hope you all realise that evra will now play left wing while this is a massive improvement on young it is still square pegs in round holes especially when we will have wellbeck on the other wing

02 Sep 2013 23:48:14
Yes! Oh yes. Some positivity at last. Were united and we will prevail. Comonnnnnn!

02 Sep 2013 23:30:39
Ok guys, well it is 22:50 on deadline day, looks like it will only be Fellaini coming in now (possibly). This window has well and truly baffled me, I have no idea what has been and is going on.

I was certain that the needed players would come in, but it hasn't happened. This whole Herrera thing has just capped the window off perfectly. It is a total shambles by the look of it. If United had come out at the beginning and said Moyes needs a year to assess the squad, and try some youngsters out, but that we would get Fellaini to add some steel to the midfield, I would have kind of accepted that. I didn't think we would win the league/CL this season anyway so a year to assess and blood youngsters would be ok as far as I am concerned.

But, all we have heard is that we can get the best players, have plenty of money etc etc. That is what I don't accept and if Woodward has ****ed up, he needs to come out, apologise and get someone in who can do the job. The Glazers need to make a statement aswell as far as I am concerned and WE as fans need a way to show our total disgust with what has gone on.

Anyway, I am totally pissed off, Nomidfield and friends I said I would hold my hands up if I was proven wrong and here I am. I can accept when I am wrong and I was well and truly wrong, the club seem to have ****ed us all. We need to play Zaha/Januzaj etc in plenty of games to get them some real experience this season as we will finish top 3 in my eyes even with the lack of signings, but we won't win anything I don't think.

I'm going to bed now as this is a bigger nightmare than any I have had whilst asleep.

Well done very few do .
To be fair I don't think anyone expected this

Here here brendan mate, it pains me say mainly because most most were just posting for effect however I am too now very confused about my club and the direction they want to go in!
The Fellani deal makes me very angry and as far as i'm concerned Moyes HAS to shoulder some blame here too! He knew about the clause and when it ran out! Fact is seems we really only had 30m to spend! Woodward has to go, if the glazers love money like we are led to believe they won't be happy with spending an extra 5m when they didn't have too

Brendan, non of us take any pleasure in getting this right.
I wish we could have signed ozil and Herrera. And it is big of you to come here and accept what we've been saying all along.
But as fans of this great club, one of the biggest in the world, we have all got to be disappointed at what has happened in this window.
Yes, fellaini will add steel and will do a job, but where are we going tactically with the team? And where are the glazers taking this great club? They are signing sponsorship deals by the minute, and we accept that has to be done, but at the same time, this is a FOOTBALL club and they have to get their thick heads round the fact that they cannot carry on fleecing the fans and buying average players.
Also, they along with their puppet, woodrubbish, have dragged our reputation through the mud over the past two months. They have also made Moyes look like a total dick as he was claiming we will sign only the best players, but when push came to shove, we bought fellaini and cocked up a deal for a very promising player in Herrera for the sake of £6m. They also managed to annoy half of the top teams in Europe with the way we have conducted ourselves. Not promising for the future!

02 Sep 2013 23:29:03
IMO Fellaini will become a cult hero and is the hard man we have been missing since ~Keane. ~I think he has the character to revel at OT. Coentreo (spelling?) is a great loan deal. But where is our play maker? is Kagawa finally going to get a chance to prove his class? dump to bench or further young giggs rio nani ando cleverly wellbeck Jones and promote kagawa zaha janauzi hernandez smalling.

Dump Rio for Smalling? Go to bed mate

02 Sep 2013 23:26:20
I hope some of you guys who have given me so much stick will now come on and apologise to me. We have seen the quality drained from the squad and a manager brought in who would not demand money. He had a reputation at Everton for being hesitant when it came to transfers and it seems to carry on. Come on Sydney you must be happy your beloved Glazers haven't spent too much and your love child will still get a game.

Kloot
Of course syd will be happy at the end of the day " we tried to sign top players "

I am sorry Kloot it looks like getting a left back on loan as well seems all is forgiven for some people.

Dithering Dave was what he was known as!

I think there's as much chance as anyone apologising to you, KLOOT, as there is of you apologising for denying asking us all to wear replica shirts at the Swansea game.

Or for the insults, or for the lectures on where Utd fans should come for etc etc

Fair play Kloot, I thought you were a miserable ******* but this time you're right. Sad to admit I'm wrong though.

It's been a cock up, but clearly the money has been there. Triggered Herrera's clause, bid £34m for Khedira. Major cock ups, but I think the Manager bass been backed.

Kloot blame the Glazers for putting Woodward in a role he has no brains, skill, or knowledge about.Don't start ranting about money, debt, and other posters.

Kloot, I said all along that we will not sign anyone of note. Fellaini is hardly going to set the world alight. Though he might do a job for us.
Coentrao is a good signing.
But we are very short of quality.
Who the hell is going to buy off us in future, the way the transfers have been done is a joke.
I also think we've burnt a lot of bridges with a lot of top teams and behaved in an unacceptable manner.
I for one don't think this was a successful window.

I for one was not one and replyed to a post telling them you were right keep up the good work anybody who wants these owners out and don't care for a few seasons if we are mid table and hurts there pockets has got my vote I just wish there were thousands moore

C`mon Kloot, Moyes pinpointed the targets he wanted, its Woodward to blame. Glazier puppet.

I am as gutted as anyone else that we have failed to get our creative midfielder. Kagawa and Rooney will need to step up. Major balls up this summer though.

Syd sly reporting we never reached his buy out clause

02 Sep 2013 23:25:03
It is unlikely the United brand can be used to extract any more money from sponsors than at this moment and maintenance of this level of sponsorship income is contingent on success and excitement on the field of play. Can we honestly see United being as successful in the future as they have been during the SAF era?

If our fears are even partially realized, and we fail to make it into the Champions League next year, we will also experience reduced match day income, and I would predict, the beginning of a period when the fans simply aren't going to fill the ground. It is already becoming easier to get season tickets. The old supporters like myself will not be replaced. And we still have 370m debt.

I don't get the Glazers. Could there ever be a better moment for them to cash out? The way the club is being run I don't see they have a financial upside from here.

Don't be naive Pea, MU will be turning over £500m a season by 2016. The Glazers would be foolish to sell now and it will not happen.

02 Sep 2013 23:22:54
We've got Coentrao on loan. I know it's all doom and gloom right now, but I'm happy with Coentrao coming in. Very good player.

Doesn't improve our starting xi one bit.

I am lost for words, we end up paying 27.5 for a player and publicly get humiliated for weeks, where we could of had a cheaper deal without any drama 4 weeks ago. This must have been a serious f. k up from moyes and Woodward passing on activating his release clause thinking they can do better and have been made to look like monkeys.

If the contrao deal is true, that is great signing and hope we have an option to buy. He is a better defender than baines in my view and until he went to Madrid was considered as one of 2 or 3 best left backs in the world and was definitely the best left back at the last world cup.

The fact the CR07 does no defensive duties playing on the leftwing has not helped him on the pitch and believe it or not we might have enough with him to win the league again.

02 Sep 2013 23:21:51
am I the only one already woried about january moyes looks like he has taken a bung to take us to liverpools level van persie must be glad he sighned last season because he is not going to win another prem medal here jan I can see rooney out and de gea going back to spain sad times ahead

02 Sep 2013 23:20:28
£27.5m for the Fro - outstanding business Woodchip - wonder where he studied economics? Playschool perhaps? Ended up paying for one player almost as much as he bid for two - smacks of desperation - absolute genius

02 Sep 2013 23:19:50
Glad we got Fellani but please someone explain why we have paid over 27mil when we could gave got him for 23mil.

What a clown Woodward is. How the hell do we get sponsorship deals done!

02 Sep 2013 23:17:57
We didn't spend as much in total as Southampton . F. ing joke

02 Sep 2013 23:17:08
How many people would of wanted Mourinho instead if they knew this would happen

02 Sep 2013 23:16:49
Call ourselves the worlds biggest club. Madrid sign a player for £100m and display him infront of 30,000 fans.and we spend 2.4m on some upcoming south american and attempt to but a curly haired bruiser who wouldn't get into any top side. Woodward should be sacked, and Moyes needs a reality check that he's now at Manchester United not everton.

02 Sep 2013 23:15:51
Please let's stop the pathetic whingeing. The Club will still be there in the morning. If we have signed Fellaini then add that to Zaha, who in reality was a summer signing as Sir Alex only bought him in January to avoid others buying him. We have retained Rooney and you can only pick 11 at a time. So let's just get on with supporting the team. I think we will add more in January. Cesc may not be paying much by then. So we shall see

Do you honestly think this way? We are manchester united not effing Everton. Top teams have spent millions strengthening the squads because they want to be successful and want to treat their fans.
We get a left back on loan, a bruiser of a midfielder and a young unknown right back.
Come on, get your head out of the sand. We are short of quality in midfield and fellaini is not going to be enough.

02 Sep 2013 23:14:58
So we are waiting on the paperwork for Fellaini deal well i'm hoping there's other paperwork been pprocessed I.e woodwards p45.

02 Sep 2013 23:14:36
Sly Spurts suggesting that we have signed BigWig; still a totally cr*p and unacceptable transfer window.

02 Sep 2013 23:13:16
Fellaini! Is that it? What a fxxxxxxg joke. Motes you are so far out of your depth it's embarrassing. How on earth did you manage to get your job?

Coentrao on loan also

It starts!

Fellaini AND contrao not bad after all

02 Sep 2013 23:11:35
So there you have it! We end up paying £27.5m for Fellaini when his buyout was £23.5m

Everyone put your hands together for Mr. Woodward

02 Sep 2013 23:22:07
Incredible, inept, embarassing. What are we becoming?
Chinese whispers

He sure is a shrewd operator.
Must get him to negotiate my next pay rise.

Thanks Ed Woodward! Your the best! Wish someone could give this guy a slap. He needs to wake up to reality

02 Sep 2013 23:11:30
i hate to say it but I honestly think we will finish outside the top four now with we have 4 or 5 regular starters who just aren't good enough I feel sorry for moyes in way but even he is starting to annoy me as I thought he would bring in fresh ideas but all he is doing is exactly the same as fergie did at the end which is play substandard players out of position this summer has gradually got worse and worse dark times ahead my friends we are in the s**t

I think with a bit of luck with injuries (which we never have) we may still be able to finish third. Can't see us finishing any higher than that. Wouldn't be overly surprised to see us finishing lower though.

Hurt the club in the pocket the only way they understand

02 Sep 2013 23:10:48
Oh the shock and horror! We haven't signed anyone! Looks like the leprechaun's are still sat on their big pot of gold! Now let the sympathisers try and defend the indefensible! Like the old saying goes you reap what you sow! Any failures by them team this season lie firmly at there feet!
DEATH TO THE GLAZERS!

02 Sep 2013 23:08:13
I think most of us would have been happy with our squad maybe with just one midfield addition.
But what sticks in my throat is how Woodward has acted in the transfer market he has behaved like a dithering baffoon and made a mockery of our Great club.
Was this hype about us having money to spend just to push up prices, if so it has worked in part as Arsenal have paid way over the odds for Ozil, not sour grapes but £42.5 million is Wenger on drugs?
All this to one side I am not sure our sponsors will be very pleased with the bad press and probably lack of shirt sales this is going to cause.
I am sorry but this had left a bad taste in my mouth but I am really happy with our current team just shame we didn't add a good Scholes replacement.
Come on United let's win it with our brilliant kids in midfield and last word to Woodward, Feck Off!

Ozil is as good as Bale - so to pay half the amount seems like very good business to me. The fact that we spent £27m+ on Fellaini makes the Ozil deal look even better.

02 Sep 2013 23:08:09
Well that was underwhelming to say the least. Don't know what's going on at OT but can't understand our lack of activity or why we left it so late. Supposed to be the biggest club in the world? Hard to not be negative.
Still love Utd & will still support the team & players we've got.

02 Sep 2013 23:07:17
Anniewithoutmakeup, you are a habitual liar.

Very disappointed by our (in)activity and general conduct throughout the transfer window. Regardless of what some people say, Moyes has to take some of the responsibility for this mess.

The sad truth is I think things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

02 Sep 2013 23:06:45
Fellani deal is just about done! 10:58 and Late news from Spain - Fabio Controea (spelling) loan deal a definite possibility and there would be no problems with this as he is not being bought -yet.

No problem in supporting the club/team
however let's get back to the old days were all our deals are announced once they are done and not a whisper before.

02 Sep 2013 23:04:15
Can't believe we have not signed players in this window when you see what players other clubs have signed what is going on!

02 Sep 2013 23:03:29
Would like to see what others think about the Glazers now. I think a lot of people will be reaching for those Green and Gold scarves now, which should have never been put down in the first place.

02 Sep 2013 23:03:10
Ok guys, well it is 22:50 on deadline day, looks like it will only be Fellaini coming in now (possibly). This window has well and truly baffled me, I have no idea what has been and is going on.

I was certain that the needed players would come in, but it hasn't happened. This whole Herrera thing has just capped the window off perfectly. It is a total shambles by the look of it. If United had come out at the beginning and said Moyes needs a year to assess the squad, and try some youngsters out, but that we would get Fellaini to add some steel to the midfield, I would have kind of accepted that. I didn't think we would win the league/CL this season anyway so a year to assess and blood youngsters would be ok as far as I am concerned.

But, all we have heard is that we can get the best players, have plenty of money etc etc. That is what I don't accept and if Woodward has ****ed up, he needs to come out, apologise and get someone in who can do the job. The Glazers need to make a statement aswell as far as I am concerned and WE as fans need a way to show our total disgust with what has gone on.

Anyway, I am totally pissed off, Nomidfield and friends I said I would hold my hands up if I was proven wrong and here I am. I can accept when I am wrong and I was well and truly wrong, the club seem to have ****ed us all. We need to play Zaha/Januzaj etc in plenty of games to get them some real experience this season as we will finish top 3 in my eyes even with the lack of signings, but we won't win anything I don't think.

I'm going to bed now as this is a bigger nightmare than any I have had whilst asleep.

You were all over people who said this would happen, think you should have some humble pie for supper and start apolgising in the morning, bin your rose coloured specs and be happy in the knowledge that you know nothing :'(

02 Sep 2013 23:02:43
The only person that will be smiling after this transfer window is Cleverly. His position in the team will not be jeopardised by a better midfielder in Herrera.

Oh well, here's to a season with a midfield of Carrick, Cleverly and Giggs. Maybe the odd game for Anderson, who in my mind is miles better then the latter two if he is fit and injury free.

02 Sep 2013 23:01:25
Embarrassing.

02 Sep 2013 23:00:43
Some of the regulars appear to be missing

I am still here and trying to make sense of today. I have no reference point to anything like this in the past and quite frankly for the first time ever quite concerned for the club not from a lack of our summer activity but from the way things have been handled and new manager and people running things.

I am speechless and highly embarrassed. I want to recommend everyone sign up on twitter and make sure our views are heard, this is totally unacceptable and the champions of England have been made to look like some second rate chop shop.

02 Sep 2013 22:59:22
Simply Red. Moneys too tight to mention Glazers must be loving this window. Moyes clearly has his remit to make do and mend worrying times especially as Moyes likes experience and will clearly hold back on playing Zaha Januzaj or Powell(sorry we do not rate him so he's gone!)

02 Sep 2013 22:53:40
I said it from the first day of the announcement of David Moyes that he was the "big signing" SAF spoke of. There you have it no signings and we are a f****** joke of a midfield.

I said it before and i'll say it again. I like moyes however I hope we finish fourth or fifth maybe then the f****** Glazers will start spending some money.

I can't believe this.

I hope we finish fourth or fifth - because I can't see us doing any better.

02 Sep 2013 22:57:06
Sheer bizarreness connected with Manchester United’s collapsed move for Ander Herrera. The Press Association takes up the story: “It appeared three United officials had arrived at La Liga headquarters in Madrid to complete the formalities that would allow Herrera to finalise a move to Old Trafford. However, it now seems the trio were imposters and had nothing to do with United at all.”

02 Sep 2013 22:56:25
So no CR7, Bale, Fabregas, Thiago, Strootman, Modric, Hererra, Baines or Ozil. Fellaini may still come but he won't solve our lack of creativity in midfield or the complete lack of ability we have at present to best a man. Our midfield will struggle this season against decent teams and we certainly won't compete with the best in Europe. Our great club is not in crisis but we no longer have the ability to terrorise other teams or challenge for the Champions League. A sad night for all true Utd fans.

02 Sep 2013 22:55:51
Looks to be a pretty bad transfer window for you guys. Even the Gooners managed some decent business at the end.

If you get Fellaini that would be something but its not that great a deal is it. be honest

At least you have kept Rooney which is something.

You seem to be intent on giving everyone else a chance this season. We will now have to see if any sides are able to capitalise.

Who did you send out to Spain to do your business? They need to give an interview on a website so we can all see what they have got to say for themseives.

02 Sep 2013 22:54:03
I thought our urgent need was a mid-fielder with a bit of flare and who can make something happen, an eye for pass. we get (may get) Fallaini. Just a comfort move for Moyes! You've let your fans down Utd.

02 Sep 2013 22:52:13
Start the youth movement now!

02 Sep 2013 22:50:17
Had day off work today and I've been glued to a web site all day from the MOMENT I woke up because I knew we were going to make at LEAST 1 signing. Looks like I was very wrong and have just completely wasted my day!

Bring Gill back!

02 Sep 2013 22:48:34
As sorry as I'm feeling for myself and the rest of us United fans; spare a thought for Herrera.

After being told that a deal was going to take place - he then declared his desire to leave and even offered to lower his wage demands in order to ensure a move took place.

He'll now have to spend the next year at a club who know he doesn't want to be there and play in front of fans with the same knowledge. And for what? To make fans think we were in for a quality player?

The fact that we didn't bother to send reps to Spain to sort the deal is one thing - but the fact that we were so out of the loop that 'imposters' were able to turn up supposedly acting on our behalf is another. We clearly had no intention of completing the deal.

This is worse than what we did to Adam Llajic.

My sentiments exactly. Treating everyone concerned like s__. I expected the glazers would find it more difficult to hide once fergie and gill left but I didn't expect this mess. I under estimated them.

02 Sep 2013 22:47:11
Oh oh we could be in a lot of trouble this season. Cleverley, Welbeck, Valencia and Young are not going to get the job done. Embarressed for us today.

02 Sep 2013 22:45:49
I doubt we'll even get Wiggy now. Woodward better have some answers, or resign.

02 Sep 2013 22:43:49
said it a few days ago the board are very clever band names around to keep us entertained just so at the end we are begging for hair do i'm sorry but he is not good enough they will not be getting another penny of mine and I hope thousands of fans take the same stance and hurt the club in the pocket to get rid of the owners I don't care if we are mid table for how ever many seasons because they do not give a toss about us

02 Sep 2013 22:42:11
SAF arrived at OT with a pedigree of winning trophies and transformed a team of also rans into champions. DM has arrived at OT with no winning pedigree whatsoever and will turn a team of champions into also rans.
Him and Woodward should hang their heads in shame! DISGUSTED!

02 Sep 2013 22:41:55
Woodward out, that's all you can say really. He has to make a statement and hand in his resignation for being such a joke. All of this 'we are going to get someone big' was clearl just a ploy to get us all to buy our season tickets.

02 Sep 2013 22:39:51
Can anyone shed any light on the imposters that were sent to do this Herrera deal. Who were they? Did Manchester United send these people? I just can't get my head round it

Glazers yes man pretending we have money.

02 Sep 2013 22:39:32
Genuinely worried now. Think Woodward might be impersonating a chief executive. I rate Felaini but not for us. Long hard season ahead.

02 Sep 2013 22:38:32
After this transfer window, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Krusty the Clown who was supposedly having a medical and not Fellaini. JOKE!

Ha ha don't joke mate. it might be true!

02 Sep 2013 22:37:36
So who were these people? Were they sent over to represent the club because we couldn't be bothered to send real people over. Or if not were we really after him because where is our gang? And this guy was going to take a pay cut to play for us. He won't want to now will he. Who would. What will our lovely owners say about this if they can be bothered. Surely the " thick" skinned leeches can see what a mess this has all been.

02 Sep 2013 22:36:26
Bring out the green and gold.

Redseven

couldnt agree with you more, total embarassment, Woodward should resign along with communications officer
cant believe we haven't quashed this within minutes, as they haven't been our people in Spain.Moyes hasn't covered himself in glory either, can you imagine this farce with Fergie no chance!

02 Sep 2013 22:35:27
This transfer window has been an absolute bloody joke. What a farce this is. We are Utd. Why have we totally messed this up? Woodward needs to give an explanation as to wtf has actually gone on here. Very embarrassing. What is happening to our club?

02 Sep 2013 22:35:05
What a joke of a transfer window what excuse they will come out with

There will be a lot of madness between now and them! :(

02 Sep 2013 22:34:30
After what has been an awful summer in terms of transfers which has showed how much we miss David gill and tht ed Woodward is not good enough the least David moyes could do is give kagawa a regular run in the first team and give lingard, zaha and Januzaj some playing time

02 Sep 2013 22:31:17
David Moyes has had only THREE genuine transfer targets this summer, those being Cesc Fabregas, Marouane Fellaini & Leighton Baines. Interesting and depressing in equal measure.

Source: Gary Lineker on Twitter.

I feel for Moyes, I think there will be people calling for Ed's head this week. A major cock up.

02 Sep 2013 22:30:50
What a rubbish transfer window? Woodword should hang his head in shame he could not buy a bag of chips in a chip shop . Sir alex must be wondering what has he done

02 Sep 2013 22:29:46
we are a shambles and a joke, can't believe this has happened, even if we get fellaini over the line it was never going to be enough, all our rivals have had a massively better summer than us, I fear for us, apparently we had no budget moyes only had to say who he wants, what a load of b*******, its all lies, we are on a budget, its disgusting, how many commercial deals have we signed this summer but we can't sign one world class player, now its going to be giggs every game whilst kagawa watches from the stands, feckin joke, ozil just signed for arsenal as i'm writing this, feckin had it.

02 Sep 2013 22:29:13
First time I have ever felt embarrassed by our club, I genuinely feel scared for the future of our club.

02 Sep 2013 22:27:42
For the last few weeks our transfer policy (if there is one) has been a joke. Fans deserve better, our management are an embarrassment - leaving matters to the very last few minutes and then 'cocking it up' is an absolute disgrace. In most jobs the people responsible would be sacked as incompetent, and I sincerely hope that heads roll as a result. David Moyes needs to be firm on what he expects to happen, and he needs to ensure that such incompetence is never repeated. A great club is being shown up as unprofessional and naieve in its approach, and the whole thing is very painful to experience!
GLC

02 Sep 2013 22:27:07
I've never been more embarrassed by this club, amateurish, no class and no ambition. They have absolutely no idea, Woodward is a moron. I have never wanted a director of football but I want one now who can negotiate because clearly no one else can.

02 Sep 2013 22:35:16
Anniewithoutthemakeup - oh dear!

02 Sep 2013 22:25:49
So arsenal who have won f*** all for almost ten years can sign one of the best players in the world and we can't sign anybody absolute joke woodward is to blame not moyes and must go now before he does anymore damage I don't think I have ever been this angry over anyhing united related before

It's not a case of club stature. From what I hear Ozil preferred a move to United over Arsenal. The issue is cash.

I stuck by SAF in the past when he said that money was available - but now I think we are working on a very tight budget.

When a player of Ozil's calibre becomes available - you do everything you can to sign them.

Moyes is as much to blame. He is the one who tells Woodward who to go for.

Fabregas was apparently NEVER going to happen. Fellaini could have been signed MONTHS ago for a lower fee.

Our midfield and wings are that poor there are over 100 players who would strengthen our first 11 (I actually drew up a list yesterday). How we're left with 20 minutes of the window and still to make a signing is beyond me.

If it was about cash where did the money come from for the kedeira bid

02 Sep 2013 22:25:28
I said for the last few weeks Woodward should resign.
United should give all us United fans an apology and an explanation - even if we sign fellaini

02 Sep 2013 22:25:27
Who would have thought arsenal would have been the deadline day winners! Disappointed in united was looking forward to seeing the new players paraded when we play palace next week

Maybe they'll parade Varela? He's still not got a work permit - but can enter the country on a tourist visa!

02 Sep 2013 22:24:31
Ozil to arsenal great signing will fit in very well I'm actually looking forward to him playing in the EPL week in week out.
43 mill fair play arsenal

02 Sep 2013 22:23:29
I can only imagine SAF is sat at home feeling sorry for the fans because this has been embarrassing for us to say the least. I was much more excited about signing Herrera than Fellaini and now that looks completely out the window.

I totally agree Oswald, herrera would have given us something different which we have needed, I want the Fellaini deal to fall through so the s&%£ hit the fan, this is absolutely appaulling!

02 Sep 2013 22:23:12
If we just sign fellaini this transfer window the fans need to make a statement at the home game at Palace, such a poor transfer window so far (hope I eat my words) we have needed a 2 centre midfielders for 3-4 years ending up with fellaini for over 25m (CRAZY PRICE) and still got the rubbish that we needed to offload, macheda, bebe, anderson, nani, young

02 Sep 2013 22:22:49
The current mob are making it hard for us to fulfil Fergie wishes, very difficult to get behind Moyes right now.

It's hard to blame Moyes for this

02 Sep 2013 22:22:08
Seriously WTF is going on at our beloved club. What a joke this whole transfer window has been and what an embarrassment we have made ourselves. If Moyes etc have any dignity or class, they should come out and explain themselves to the fans, or expect a backlash that could make this season a very disappointing and long one.

02 Sep 2013 22:20:33
Haha, this window is getting embarrassing!
What on earth is going on in Spain?
We look less and less competent! A great club ruined by second rate maestros

02 Sep 2013 22:18:45
Bebe has gone to Pacos de Ferreira on loan.

How is it that we can find a club to take Bebe but are unable to bring in top players?

02 Sep 2013 22:17:42
I cannot believe herrera deal is off all those saying a lot of crap about Fellaini i'm sure now you all want him to sign or you are happy with what we saw at Anfield

02 Sep 2013 22:16:56
Deal off guys, very disappointed and very pissed off with the MU board. There was no need to wait this long into the window. I feel for Moyes and you have to say Ed Woodward will need to answer to this! Very disappointed. We really could have done with Gill staying til the end of the window. Well goodnight lads.

Chicken little, where have you been . We haven't seen you the last couple of days?

02 Sep 2013 22:15:00
Has Angelo Henriquez gone on loan?

02 Sep 2013 22:14:41
Scrambling about on deadline day to sign a player we could have had cheaper weeks ago - add to that, the complete shambles they've made with everything else and it's hard to see how Moyes or anyone else can excuse this cr*p and put a positive spin on it

02 Sep 2013 22:12:48
Herrera off, gutted! I hope there is a backlash with Woodward. Poor poor show!

02 Sep 2013 22:12:03
Well that herrera news just about sums up the farce that has taken place at our club this summer. We've been had boys.

02 Sep 2013 22:11:55
Apparently people impersonating United suits in Spain . It was probably woodenhead! It beggers belief. I didn't expect much but even I didn't think they could be this incompetent . Complete fools!

02 Sep 2013 22:11:41
The first person we should have signed this window should have been a decent replacement for David Gill, Ed's turning into a bit of a joke

What do you mean a bit of a joke.
total incompetent more like

02 Sep 2013 22:11:10
How do you even explain what I've just seen on a website. The representatives in the la liga hq wernt ours. This is an embarrassment

02 Sep 2013 22:10:23
WTF is going on with our great club in the space of a couple of months we have become a complete laughing stock in european football woodward is a disgrace and should resign with immediate effect

02 Sep 2013 22:09:52
Herrera deal off. Apparently United officials in Spain representing our club did not have the necessary permission to do so. Even being reported that they may have been imposters.

Absolutely unbelievable.

02 Sep 2013 22:09:25
Imposters in atletico Bilbao deal was it Woodward by any chance. They haven't a clue we are the laughing stock of Europe a joke

02 Sep 2013 22:08:56
Herrera deal dead a website

02 Sep 2013 22:07:53
Herrera deal off. Absolutely clueless. Apparently imposters pretending to be united suits. At least we know where Woodward is lol. What a clown.

02 Sep 2013 22:07:34
Herrera deal off - if it was even on - all very odd but power for the course based on Utds dealings this summer - beyond a joke now

02 Sep 2013 22:06:52
Guillem Balague tweeted Herrera deal is off! Dunno what to believe anymore!

02 Sep 2013 22:05:51
Herrera deal is off! CONFIRMED!

02 Sep 2013 22:05:22
Bye bye Herrera deal. I need a drink. where is my scotch!

02 Sep 2013 22:03:29
Herrera is off. source is that spanish guy of sly sports' twitter. Just fellaini then.

02 Sep 2013 22:00:32
Herrera deal off. didn't see that coming did we.

02 Sep 2013 21:57:54
United are mulling over pulling the plug the herrera transfer!!!!!!

Tax laws in spain are making it difficult and will not be allowed time extension by fa to make it go through. tense time ahead. next 30mins will determin the out come!
time of post 21.57

Don't think I can take much more of this. Too many maybes happening into the eleventh hour.not good enough!

Apparently it's off. Balague claims the deal is 'completely dead'.

Deal off

Erm. Apparently the people who went to the Spanish FA were importers and not United representatives. Hilarious. Farcical.

The Herrera deal OFF! according to Sly Sports!

What a complete f.cking joke. What is going on? Seriously, I am perplexed by what is going on. And to top if all off, we send Powell off too wigan. FFS!!!!!!

02 Sep 2013 21:56:14
How have we Manchester United, one of the biggest teams in the world, ended up with such an amateur board looking after transfers. its embarrassing!

We need to get januzaj and zaha into that first team sitting on the bench. what is there to lose? bringing them slowly into the team.

02 Sep 2013 21:54:31
Every year, we moan because Deadline Day is so boring for Utd.

Now you're moaning because it's all left to the last minute.

Some people are never happy :)

Very true

Go to sleep mate!

Lol, very true

02 Sep 2013 21:50:08
There is some good news at last bebe has been sent out on loan.

02 Sep 2013 21:45:41
hi eds, hope ya having fun. just wanted to say thanks for keeping the site flowing really well with the latest comments. {Ed004's Note - Your welcome I've not been off the Internet all day. Really hoping we get Herrera and Ozil falls through for arsenal}

02 Sep 2013 21:44:18
Looks like we are going to miss out on Herrera because we have the most incompetent person named Woodward. Whether it be the tax issue or paper work doesn't appear likely to happen. Gill may be a bigger loss than Fergie, this is amateur hr.

02 Sep 2013 21:37:54
I'm a United fan and annoyed about how we have done our transfer business this summer I hope this has taught Woodward to stop pissing around in the market and get business done way before deadline day now every clubs holding us to ransom for there players bring back gill I say!

Tough lesson learned perhaps! :'(

Glazers out. Disgusted at thegoingson or should I say lack of.Face facts we've no money.Thanks to the yanks clowns. Blackpool red

02 Sep 2013 21:31:27
I have been a United fan for 35 years. Seen the good the bad and the Ugly.

We have not dominated a game since the late 90's and early 00's. To dominate a game we need a midfield, wingers strikers score. Midfielders dictate play and dominate.

This has been a problem since Keano's demise and departure. The issue has to be laid at Sir Alexs Feet. Pgoba and Ravel would have solved are midfield issues. But SAF choose his 'trusty old lieutenants' (Giggs and Scholes).

Anderson Clev Nani Young Valencia haven't progressed like they should of.

We are a laughing stock, comments like unlimited budget, stella signings. Rubbish.

We have spent 30 mil 4 times Rio, Rooney, Veron and Berba. 2 worked.

We make stars, Not buy them, SAF forgot this in his latter years. Class of 92' wouldn't have anything on Pgoba Ravel Adnan Lingard Powell Coles Etc.

Be BOLD Moyes go young.

MUFC and on.

I simply do not believe you have been watching United for 35 years if you believe that the class of '92 would have nothing on those players you mentioned. That is an embarrassing statement. Probably the worst I have EVER seen on this site actually.

Treble1999

Boring and excusable post! I forgive you

Well unfortunately your disbelief in my statement has no relevance in the truth of the statement.

Are you honestly telling me that

Adnan- Giggs
Ravel - Beckham
Powell - Scholes
Pgoba- Butt
Lingard- P Nevile
Cole- Nevile.

The current crop of youth aren't by far better than 92'?

At the same age?

Go and watch some football lad. Yes they aren't home grown that's only happened 3 times in world football Celtic 67 United 99 and Barca 08 onwards. That's all I can think off.

Footballs faster now the only player that would of been just as good is Scholes. The rest would'nt have stood up to todays standard. Or been the stars they went on to be.

02 Sep 2013 21:16:26
Squeaky bum time!

02 Sep 2013 21:14:51
Nick Powell has gone to Wigan on loan. Cleverley got good experience there and they play nice passing football, so I reckon it's a good place for him to go.

More importantly, it only leaves us with Carrick, Cleverley, Ando (chronically unfit), Fletch (long term health issues) and Giggs (too old to be played too regularly) for central midfield. Surely this suggests at least one cm target is almost done?

Hopefully Powell will get regular football and will stay fit which is a worry imo.

Yeah Cleverley's experience there done him a world of good eh. He's rotten.

Cleverly looked like a really good player til he had that injury hit season

02 Sep 2013 21:08:57
It really makes me laugh reading all the negative comments on here about possible transfer targets. People critisising the ability of players like Fellaini, Herrera and Khedira to mention a few. Any of these players would be a big improvement on what we already have. Most of these posters have more than likely never seen these players play more than a couple of games. if any at all. Yet still they feel it necessary to tell us all how crap thesed players are.
Do you want us to sign anyone or not? Either way i'm sure you will take great pleasure in moaning one way or another.

Betty

I have no issue with the players, my issues are with the amateurish way we have done our business. It has been truly cringe worthy

No that's the point I don't want us to sign "anyone".

Betty swallocks

Do you want us to sign anyone or not?
did you really ask that question, ok let's just sign anyone then whether they improve us or not fellaini in my opinion is not good enough when needed to perform against much higher opposition the likes of both madrids, barcelona, bayern and dortmund, if he's that good why are they not interested even when he had his low buyout fee

Ok , I take you're point guys. My post was badly worded. I didn't mean "buy anyone" literally. We all know that we need a couple of midfielders. The point I was trying to make is that some people will moan about anyone we are linked with, whether they are good players or not. I'm not saying that Fellaini would be my 1st choice for a defensive midfielder, but I think that he would be a good addition. Madrid, Barca, Dortmund, Bayern etc all have a couple of players each who can play that role already. They are not in the market for that kind of player.
Having said all of that, football is all about opinions. It just happens to be my opinion the Fellaini, Herrera and Khedira are better than what we already have.

02 Sep 2013 21:01:48
Fellaini isn't going to make it!somebody slashed his tyres!i swear it wasn't me lol

02 Sep 2013 20:59:27
I think Ozils agents are dragging their feet about signing for Arsenal in the hope that we have a change of heart and go in for him. Just a feeling I have.

Ozil's already joined mate, sorry to burst your bubble

Perhaps it's possible as Herrera has hit a snag.

That's not what I gather.

02 Sep 2013 20:57:14
Rumours going around tonight that someone by the name of kloot has ordered 75000 green and gold scarves.

That's a cracker, Ryan12. It's the way you tell 'em!

Or just maybe some of you have seen the light

02 Sep 2013 19:23:14
Ed's - Do you know of any certain bids or any negotiations because from all I gather we are not close to anything. {Ed004's Note - Just Herrera and Fellaini}

02 Sep 2013 20:52:11
I really expect us NOT to get Herrera. I can see the club "trying" to wrap up the deal but running out of time. If they really wanted him and knew they would have to pay the release clause, they could have started on this Friday as opposed to today.

It seems to me this last gasp "attempt" will be to try and appease/trick the fans.

Hope I am wrong!

Sadly, I fear you are right.

I think you aremconfusing conspiracies with incompetence

02 Sep 2013 20:48:04
I have no idea who we may or may not sign in the next couple of hours but this has to have been the most excruciatingly embarrassing transfer windows we have ever had. Jumping from player to player in a desperate attempt to sign somebody is not something I would ever see. Perhaps we should try for Gareth Barry

I thought that you and GDS2 were just happy the way we were and were pretty sure that we would get at least 3 signings by now.

By the end of the day the Pessimist and You guys the so called Positive are all worried.

We'll be just 'OKAY' as you guys say. We still have 2 hours, tchill.

02 Sep 2013 20:43:00
If Woodchip and his cronies manage to screw it up at this late stage, it will be ineptitude of unbelievable proportions - on his display thus far it really wouldn't come as a shock though - I doubt they could really look any more amateurish if they tried

They have already screwed up. The fact that we are conducting ALL of our business on the final day of the window is testament to that!

02 Sep 2013 20:28:56
Is it only me or does anyone else think that the rooney saga was a roose, fergie telling us all roo wanted out hoping the fans would forgive him again when he did a u turn and to mask the fact that we got no cash to get top players in
. Moyes given job to do business at cut prices to give the yanks more money. what happened to moyes saying I can have who I want then bidding low this to me reeks of lies and misleading the fans, woodward is a joke bring back gill

In a word - no. if utd can't get their sh*t together to buy a player, I doubt they're capable of the Machiavellian conspiracy you've dreamt up

02 Sep 2013 20:25:55
There is a 6m difference between United and Athletic, its 42 not 36 when you add IVA, we turned up with 36 but it's a total of 42. Not sure if we will come back with the additional 6. This might take Woodward a week to consider. You can't make up something like this.

02 Sep 2013 20:24:52
According to reports coming from Spain, arsenals deal with Madrid for Ozil as been called off because of an argument between Zizu and arsenal staff! Surely IF this is true we should step in last minute and put in a cheeky big regardless of yes man moyes saying we're not interested! I just have a feeling we are all going to be highly disappointed tonight with fellani only one coming through the door! And if they don't pull their fingers out that won't happen either! Bid after bid turned down just goes to prove how much of an influence SAF had in the club on and off the pitch! That being said I hope I'm wrong and we fill Central mid and then a cheeky surprise to fill the number 7 shirt!

SAF didn't have the greatest record in the transfer market.

Just like how he influenced that wonderful deal or Berba right. This is what you get when you leave it to the last day of the transfer window and with or without saf, clubs will turn the screws. I am glad Fellaini has put in a transfer request, shows commitment and should help us close the deal.

On another note the grand hypocrite Mourinho who said he saw nothing wrong with cubs selling players to rival clubs, has refused to loan Demba Ba to Arsenal.

02 Sep 2013 20:01:46
Rumours going around that United reps. left withour submitting Herrera's clause due to burocratic issues.

There still set to buy the player mate

02 Sep 2013 20:16:38
Herrera last year, 2 goals 2 assists. No caps for Spain. Do we really want to spend £30m on him? Terrible window in my view! Gutted

Hughesy

He's a good player, defensively very good and good on the ball his game is not all about goals and assists

Carrick last year. 2 Goals and 5 assists - and played 12 more games.

Carrick did make 5 appearances for England - but given the strength of the Spain and England midfields this makes sense. If Carrick was Spanish he too would have made no international appearances!

Crazy huh. He scored just as many goals from midfield as our Striker Wellbeck ;)

Well said Hughesy, Not a good record for collecting red and yellow cards either.

Spain have the best midfield in the world, only a matter of time before he gets a call up, Barca will get him in 2 years if we don't get him.

Shut up Hughesy.

For all the guys who are slagging this guy, have you ever watched him play?

He is head and shoulder better than what we have. do you want us to sign players or are you just looking to bitch, because nothing seems good enough?

We all know this window has been nothing short of a comedy show but seeing it out without any signings is going to be an even worst outcome.

His turn and change of direction is great and something that none of our midfielders have and he will put a foot in and never shy to tackle. To me sounds like exactly what we need.

Cracking Spain's national team as midfielder is very difficult given the wealth of talent they have and should not be point of contention.

02 Sep 2013 20:08:19
Seems like Herrera might actually be a goer if reports to be believed - nothing official but it seems like there's been progress and wheels are in motion

02 Sep 2013 19:35:37
On twitter MU representatives at Spanish FA. Looks like herrera deal is happening.

The journalists who tweeted the picture has just said the reps have left with out paying the buy out due to paper work issues

Heard MUFC reps at La liga HQ to pay release clause pending medical in Spain. Fellani should be at Carrington within the hour. Left Evertons training ground just before 8pm.

Unbelievable, what next. This is the most screwed up transfer window I have ever seen when it comes to United. There must be some stuff that we are nto aware of for us to be doing things this way. I buy into the theory that woodward is not experienced at this stuff but this is genuinely something else.

Just registered on twitter, plan on sending some nice tweets tomm to the clubs official account :)

02 Sep 2013 19:24:08
I'm getting nervous. Are we going to get any deals over the line? Come on the equaliser redeem yourself.

02 Sep 2013 19:16:31
I seem to remember in the past clubs signing players 'subject to a medical', and the medical could be done a day or so after the transfer deadline.

Is this still the case? Or do teams have to have the medical done before the deadline closes?

What beggars belief is why wasn't herrera identified earlier so we wouldn't have this mess of a situation we now find ourselves in.Also on the fellaini transfer he's not good enough for man united really if so why are there no other top clubs interested?Would he really bother the fast flowing football of bayern, dortmund, real and athletico madrid, barcelona?is this what we hope for?yeah he'd be great at defending and attacking set pieces although other than van persie we can't for the life of us put a decent cross.We are manchester united and should have better, if not blood the youngsters.hope i'm wrong but maybe we are running out of time regarding herrera but probably be told by the club we tried, like I say hope i'm wrong

02 Sep 2013 18:53:49
Everton want 26 for the Fro and we could have released the buy out for 23.5 and saved ourselves a headache. This is so incompetent its unbelievable and now we wait till the last second to try to complete a complicated transfer with Balboa. The tax issues are complicated and I don't know if there is enough time to get it done

Now you are feeling arsenals pain, this window and in recentones it has been frustrating watching us operate in the transfer market.
If Ozil goes through this could signal a change at Arsenal but for Utd its a whole different story without Ferguson.

I'll retract the statement if yu do something at the last minute

Ozil is a wonderful player and I'm envious but you have bigger needs. You still need a striker and a defender and that is a huge fee with an enormous salary. I think the salary kept us from going after him with Rooney and RVP making so much

02 Sep 2013 18:09:22
well the great felllani will be unveiled or will he? how the mighty red devils have fallen.looks like you are falling off your perch.

banter please ed

Lol terrible banter my friend!

02 Sep 2013 19:29:43
we have not fallen we are just injured and we are healing now so wait until we have played atleast 10 games, I am sure that we will atleast have 25 or 22 point's by then ggmu, zee :)

02 Sep 2013 18:31:51
Was reading
"If Manchester United's reported pursuit of Leighton Baines fails to bear fruit, it's conceivable they could turn their attentions to Granada's Guilherme Siqueira in their bid for a new left-back."

All hell is breaking loose

I hope not. Very mediocre player. Would rather keep Evra or failing that play Fabio.

Is that in January?

I would take Coentrao on loan if possible.

02 Sep 2013 17:53:21
Seems to be all talk no action from us so far.

02 Sep 2013 17:23:36
Hi Eds, Why can't we hijack Everton's bid for Fernando from Porto? {Ed004's Note - Maybe we don't want to?}

02 Sep 2013 17:05:58
Afternoon all,

I'm sure everyone is crazy busy but is there anything concrete that Mata has handed/will hand in a TR?

According to Nation Radio Chelski have rejected a bid from the scousers for Mata - would be extremely interested in trying to make this one happen!

Herrera, Mata, & Fellaini is a mouthwatering prospective MF trio.

Also Mike Ashley's very own Sports Direct website seems to suggest we're in for Cabaye?

Any help greatly appreciated!

02 Sep 2013 16:09:28
Can any of the eds or anyone else shed any light on the situation with the number 7 and 9 shirt? Especially the number 7 being the most iconic shirt to ever be printed on red! Surely we are not going to leave it vacant? And Herrara nor fellani would fill them shirts? Are we in for a bit of a surprise with two more signings after the inevitable Herrara and fellani signings? Eds help me out? Any little whispers?

There is no no 7 shirt so to speak . Its now the 7up shirt and is saved for our new mascot. Woodward secured another sponsorship.

I wouldn't say Fellaini and Herrera are ''inevitable''. We all thought we'd have Strootman and Garay by now didn't we? I have a funny feeling about Di Maria, pure gut feeling but I can see him in red.

02 Sep 2013 16:47:44
So if we get Fellaini, what's the odds on him getting his first red card against Man City? Elbow to the head!

Sounds like it's worth a bet on the elbow to the head! Fro

02 Sep 2013 16:27:26
Gents, reading the messages on here I can see that many are disappointed that w were not in the running for Ozil. We all know he is a great player, but why blow what would probably be most of our budget on a player that plays in a position were we already have strength? Kagawa and Rooney can play wide or in the hole and buying another player of that ilk, albiet a beter player would stop the progression of Januzaj.

I have been disgruntled all summer, but if we bring in Herrera and Fellaini I will be happy. Herrera is class and a box to box player and will get stuck in, something Ozil won't do. As for fellaini he is the destructive, steely and if you like 'dirty' player that will get stuck in and stick it people like Toure at City.

Good business for me.

Because our wingers are terrible and many would like to see us play Rooney, Kagz and Ozil behind RVP. We also have 'unlimited funds'.

On a more serious note, we haven't sold anyone and therefore are carrying the same wage bill as last year. Ozil is reportedly looking for £200k per week, we can bring in Fellanini and Hererra for less wages then Ozils and still have change.

Whilst the board can say that money is no barrier, the financial fair play rules imlemented by the premier league and whole heartedly agreed to by Utd limit the wages you are able to pay. As we haven't cleared the likes of Nani, Anderson off the wage bill we cannot go out and spend fortunes on every player we like, we need to be selective and strengthen where we really need it.

If you believe we have unlimited funds then you have been smoking the same stuff as woody woodward.

We are miles away from falling foul of ffp rules. I can't be bothered to explain them fully - but the gist is that the club must bring in more than it spends. We are comfortably with that limitation.

Of course we do not have 'unlimited' funds - but that suggestion implies we have enough to be able to buy top players. We bring in enough money as a club for there to be plenty of cash available (especially with all of the new sponsorship deals this year) - so paying an extra £13m to bring in Ozil rather than Fellaini should be feasible!

02 Sep 2013 16:21:06
I think everyone should calm down, no deals have been confirmed and let's not forget Ed Woodward is doing the negotiations.
The source about Herrera is Guillem Balague and he isn't always 100% right.
On Fellaini I have heard nothing.
Until both deals are tied up i'm not getting my hopes up.
If. and it's a big ig both deals go through do you think there will be anyone else?

As I mentioned below;

Kevin Palmer (Sunday World/ESPN), Mark Ogden (The Telegraph) and Jamie Jackson (The Guardian) are also reporting that we have agreed to meet Herrera's release clause. It's not a done deal - but a lot more solid than anything which is being solely reported by Balague!

02 Sep 2013 15:33:11
Guys we haven't signed Herrera yet have we! Stop.discussing formations!
We have done that with thiago fabregas strootman already!
Don't get me wrong I am desperate for him to sign.
Let's get him. and then think about formations!
Calm down! Can anyone give me one other link than balague? He is the guy who said we paid 10 million advance for falcao I hope he is right.
But till we see something official let's no raise our hopes to be let down again!

Kevin Palmer from Sunday World, Mark Ogden from the Telegraph and Jamie Jackson from The Guardian. That enough sources for you buddy?

We're discussing formations because it is a massive investment. If he doesn't fit into our current squad - then it's an expensive loss. Admittedly - us discussing it on here isn't going to impact whether or not it happens; but knowing we're in for a player who will help strengthen our midfield is certainly helping my nerves!

Good point.

02 Sep 2013 15:30:39
Mata is now interesting Liverpool and PSG. Arsenal close to tying up deal for Ozil. We are still chasing BigWig. Just shows the limit of our ambition and / or resources.

Mata and Ozil will be looking for around £200k/week. Fellaini will not get more than £100k and will cost nearly half as much as Mata or Ozil. Says a lot about our finances really.

Mata is on around £80k a week. Oezil is on around £100k a week. No doubt Oezil would want around £150k a week, but Mata doesn't strike me as greedy so I'd imagine his wages would be the same as he is getting at Chelsea. Fellaini will command a higher wage than Mata no doubt IMO.

Fellaini to get more than Mata surly not Mata will be on a good wage at Chelsea and has been one the best about for a couple of years

He's still on his first Chelsea contract. I reckon he's on less than £80k a week.

Mata signed a contract extension at the end of last year (December, I believe?) which took his wages past the £100k mark. I'm not sure exactly how much by though.

Ozil is looking for £7m net per season. That's £130k/week after tax. He's currently earning £5m net (96k/week after tax).

Fellaini is on £70k/week pre tax.

Imo Mata next contract will be a big one, can't imagine fellaini is on much

RS, Mata signed a five year deal in 2011. His current deal expires in 2016. So he hasn't had an improved Chelsea deal to date. No doubt Oezil will want a fortune, but Mata doesn't strike me as money orientated and hasn't even pushed for a better Chelsea deal.

Sydney - I'm sure I remember him signing a new contract. I've just checked and it seems that he did on December 21'st last year.

Scratch that Syd. A few places seem to think he signed a new contract and others think he didn't. I remember there was talk of him being offered a new contract - but it's possible he didn't sign it.

Redseven, it doesn't really matter mate. I just though had Mata and Fellaini signed for MU this summer they would both be on similar salaries. It's not important.

Redseven, £115k a week Oezil is on at Arsenal :(

02 Sep 2013 15:26:39
I have a sneaky feeling we are going or fellaini, herrera and juan mata.

Christ I hope your right, I will never moan again.

That would be amazing! might be difficult to accommodate all of them in the team, but it is a squad game!

Chelsea will not sell to a rival and certainly not after messing them around with Rooney.

Fellaini and Herrera are pretty close to being done deals. In order for United to be able to get Mata, they would need the cooperation from the player himself and have him submit a transfer request in order for United to have their offer accepted by Chelsea. Let's just hope and pray.

If we do get Fellaini, is woodenhead going to cough up the extra?

Difference being though syd, is that chelsea are willing to let him go. Moyes constantly said rooney is not for sale.

Syd, we didn't really mess Chelsea around, we were clear he wasnt for sale.

Trumours, I think we will find in the future that Rooney was closer to signing for Chelsea than people think. Time will tell.

02 Sep 2013 15:21:02
Best attacking/creative signing Manchester United COULD acquire this window that has as much potential as Ozil, and would only probs want about 40 grand a week and would sign for 3 or 4 years is ADNAN JANUZAJ

Moyes needs to play him, yesterday he would have turned the game, or at least got us excited about the future much like ROnaldo did many moons ago

Ronaldo was frustrating for the first few seasons much like Nani has been for his entire spell at United. Januzaj is not ready for that kind of responsibility. Expect him to make a few cup appearances this season - but he is not quite ready to be a game changer. Zaha and Kagawa, on the other hand.

02 Sep 2013 14:16:03
Ed paying up for Herrera?

I'm not sure Bond has that kind of cash, Surprise us Bond, we could really use him!

02 Sep 2013 14:58:54
Right, that's it, sack Moyes and appoint Usain Bolt! He clearly gets the picture given what he has said in his video! Do it!

02 Sep 2013 14:56:13
Lets hope we can wrap up the deal for Ander Herrera today, the boy is a good player, a player Barcelona earmarked to replace Cesc Fabregas. Balague says in one year from now he will be well worth the £30m. This is the creative midfielder we have all been hoping for. For once we haven't gone for a different type of player and tried playing him there, we have actually bought a player that specialises in that very position. let's hope we can wrap up the Everton pair too.

Want your opinion syd. if we sib him and fellaini. what formation do u expect us to play? would we play 3 in the middle because I can't seeba 4-2-3-1 if herrera is also signed. thanks

I think if we get Fellaini and Herrera we are going to switch to a 4-3-3 with a a false number 10 in between the midfield and up front. This maybe where Kagawa comes in.

If it was up to me, and we sign these two then we will play a midfield 3 or Fellaini, Herrera and Carrick. And then up front, Rooney, RVP & Kagawa with Welbeck, Zaha etc being rotated. I really feel given our poor wingers that we need to move away from playing them and play with better technical players and play through teams.

TRUMOURS, I have said for a while that I expect to see us pack the midfield and the attack and rely heavily on the fullbacks for width. We didn't do that against Liverpool, but when Rafael returns and if we sign Baines I think we will use all of Carrick, Fellaini & Herrera in midfield. Perhaps not immediately though. We may give Herrera time to settle first.

02 Sep 2013 14:48:24
Anyone got any idea where were at with regards to how many players we have in the squad who need to be registered? Remember vaguely a while back someone saying we already had 24 players. Reason I ask is I've a horrible feeling kagawa may go today, possibly on loan to make way for fellaini and herrera.

02 Sep 2013 14:40:42
Everyone is going on about 24 million for Fellaini and 36 million Euro's for Herrera but I can't find it anywhrere, it isn't on the tv or a website.
If your relying on Guilleme Balague god help us.

It's on the sly sports we site clear as day mate

02 Sep 2013 14:30:15
Whoever trusts Guillem Balague will be happy to know that he's just given an update on Ander Herrera saying United have agreed to match his buy out clause and the player is keen on the move, could fly to England for a medical shortly.

Maybe Fellaini is already done, subject to a medical?

If these two players come in, I for one will be happy with the fact we've focused purely on our weakest area.

02 Sep 2013 14:24:22
Just been for a jog around the Carrington Training ground ( 1:30pm) and had a quick chat with Sly's James Cooper who's parked outside in the Sly van.have we signed anyone yet? No, not a sniff. they're all sat there bored stupid. There again, it wouldn't be the first time we had a deal done in the last minute!

02 Sep 2013 14:23:36
News just in according to ballague on shy united have agreed to pay ander Herrera release clause . So let's hope we get Herrera and Fellaini today!

02 Sep 2013 14:20:32
I think we will sign fellaini and herrera before the day is out.

But I thought you said it would be one or the other? Or do you now believe we are trying to sign a bit of muscle and a creative midfielder?

Syd
It's the last day of the transfer window pal I think we are on plan D .

No Jred, I think we can safely say 'plan A' was Cesc, Fellaini & Baines like myself and HB have said. I would say all we are planning to do is swap Cesc with Herrera, a like for like.

What is it you say? Something along the lines of: "sometimes you have to just admit you were wrong" Take your own advice Jred ;)

Syd
I don't think we will sign Baines or any lb for that matter
And I honestly don't think Herrera was first or second choice
It's been evident fellaini was on the cards for a while which is a shame as don't think we need a dm, but we don't know where moyes will play him .
I was of the opinion we would of went for more creative players but it looks like I was wrong.
By the way Herrera is more a box to box player than creative in the mould of fab or thiago

Syd
Did you not say strootman was going to be signed or was fellaini always plan A

Jred, I said Strootman was a SAF target and Fellaini was a Moyes target. If you change manager then I am sure targets can change too, it's not rocket science.

I do not think we will end up with Baines either, but we know Moyes wants Baines and that has been my point all along. We have bid for Cesc twice and Herrera twice, no other creative midfielder so obviously Herrera is an alternative to Cesc. Herrera is also the player Barcelona wanted to replace Cesc had he left.

Syd
Have you seen Herrera play he is a box to box player good defensive qualities just because barce lined him up as a fab replacement doesn't mean Heather exact same .
After moyes was made our manager you where still going on about signing strootman, I pointed out I thought Carrick stroots would be a poor pair.
Like I said some times you just have to admit your wrong .
But it seems you never are garay strootman di Maria no yo always said plan a was fab fellaini. Baines .
more excuses classless pal

02 Sep 2013 14:17:18
Guys

Quick update. I have kept quiet since reporting that Rooney was staying end of in my last post.

Just received word that Both Fellaini and Herrer are signing today. I believe that's it as Everton are clinging on to Baines like you wouldn't believe.

We have met the Buyout clause for Herrer, and Fellaini is oun route to have a medical.

Got to be honest i'm disapointed about Ozil however reports are that Barca saw Herre as a replacement for Iniesta in teh future so may have a little gem here.

Insiderintheknow

02 Sep 2013 14:03:56
We have another 2 years at least of moyes lads, this saddens me to think that the future windows will be the same as this one. The players we will bring in with moyes will be mediocre, imagine if our manager would have been klopp or mourinho, no four we'd have bought in reus or gundogan with klopp and ozil and di Maria with mourinho. Our signings would have made us a different team but no world class player would be attracted to united with moyes as manager. Get ready for a fight for 4th place this season.

Agreed I'm absolutely livid and mortified at how incompetent Moyes and Woodward have been!

02 Sep 2013 14:00:14
Seems like the main reason Mourinho didn't get the job is because he likes to spend money. The only thing that's getting signed for at old Trafford today is the delivery of pies for woody and his chums.