23 Sep 2021 14:50:23
I am not bashing OGS. He has done a great job re morale and managed to get a very promising squad together. In match is quite simply out of his depth. He is a timid manager, can't seem to be able to gee the team up from the touchline.

Quite simply
Fergie was a "you score 3 we'll scare 4" type of person

Ole is more like "I don't want to let you score 1 because I am not convinced we can score 2"

I would like OGS to leave of his own free will, head held high and able to take the genuine plaudits of grateful fans for what he has done.

1.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 14:57:03
why is it every time we lose the posts just bang on about how crap ole is as a manager,

im not defending him but that team was good enough to beat most teams.

i remember the last few seasons with fergie and the football was dire to watch but we won trophies. we are 4 games in and have had the best start for years in the prem, we might be out of the carabo but that's not on the fringe players to try even harder to make a claim for the first team.

we have lost the first game in europe before and still qualified.

think some have to face fact the manager is not going anywhere soon, agreed he has to produce this season and win.

2.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 15:27:51
Bolger, I am not saying he (or the team) is crap.
He is a good manager who has found his ceiling. Time for someone else to take the next step.

3.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 15:48:21
It's because we're nearly 4 years in and we don't actually look like winning anything. The speil about Fergies football being poor in his last season is a moot point. We went on to win the league. RVP running amok, late winners, old Trafford against Villa to win the league, all amazing memories.

Using excuses from the past to try and big up Ole seems to be the new trend. Just because the football wasn't scintillating in 2013 doesn't mean Ole gets a free pass to serve up this crap week in week out.

We've had a good start to the season points wise but performances havnt been great at all. But do you actually think we'll win the league? Does anybody? If your answer is no, then ask yourself what's the point?

The most precious things in football being time and money have been afforded to the manager but all we get is stale, insipid football and we're supposed to just stay quiet and lap it up?

He possesses all the poor traits of his predecessors and none of their qualities.

He is out of his depth like Moyes was, without Moyes experience. He plays boring football like LvG without his long CV to show it can work. He plays defensive first football like Jose without having the medal collection Mourinho had to back it up.

If Ole was doing a good job, none of us would have a leg to stand on arguing our point. Unfortunately for us fans, he's a brutal manager so expect these posts to continue until he wins a major trophy or is sacked.

4.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 16:03:16
Excellent post Mumbles.

5.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 16:18:56
Spot on @Mumbles!

6.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 16:27:23
Great Post mumbles and less than 2000 words.

7.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 18:39:00
What's the problem with people writing more than 2000 words Ken? ?.

8.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 18:52:24
Top post Mumbles. Perfectly summed up.

9.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 19:54:33
Completely disagree with you mumbles. You are entitled to your opinion but twisting reality is not on.

We are top of the league save for goal difference, and lut of a Mickley Mouse cup.

I came on today as I expected the Ole out brigade to be in full voice.

He is not nearly 4 years in, he is not even 3 years in and will not be for 4 months.

He took over an utter shower, is far smarter and tactically aware than you give him credit for and you pick your arguments to suit your agenda, driven by impatience and a grass is greener mentality.

Leaving Martial on last night was an absolute masterstroke. You only see what you want to see and you have zero analytical or contextual ability.

As the old saying goes, better to keep quiet and be thought a good than open your mouth and prove it.

So here is the line being drawn. As long as Ole doesn't take the team backwards we will be a complete team and almost full strength squad by summer 22 and he will take us into a title winning season.

There is every chance we win the league this season. But, we will win a trophy or two.

I see so much familiarity at Utd, not just on the pitch but in the corridors, Carrington and the expectations of all staff in comparison to circa 1989/ 90.

It takes time to get rid of the dross, the dead wood and the terrible culture and attitude. If change management was easy, then Van Gaal and Mourinho would have shown that.

Do want to win a trophy or do you want a decade of success? You can have the former now or the latter in 4 or 5 years depending on how well we build our team and change out the players and support staff Want to know who asked that and who they asked it to before they agreed to their contract?

The football is not terrible at all, the West Ham away game was an absolute blinder, even that level of old school United never say die mentality is utterly lost on the lot of you.

We have a new defence learning each others game and the same upfront, yet you talk as if we are struggling.

Get a grip! You are practically wishing failure on your own club so you can say I told you so. Tey hoping to be proved wrong, it might make you happier than constant moaning.

{Ed014's Note - Wow

10.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 20:13:45
Ah Cheshire Red; satire!

11.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 20:14:26
Is that post tongue in cheek? I honestly can't tell if he's being serious or not?

12.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 20:27:25
Cheshire red your entitled to your opinion.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Ole imo is a complete numpty of a manager. Taking the club backwards.

I don't roam the corridors and I don't predict nonsense signings that don't come about or never will.

However I know how I feel about ole. He has stolen most of the joy I get from watching my team

He is into his 3rd full season in charge and had 60% of another season. He has won nothing and imp never will. I can only hope the pressure monts and he is run out of the club and with any luck will never return.
He is the worst manager since sexton statistically given the length of his tenure.

He is an awful man manager talks in dumb ass clichès and comes across as pretty dumb to me.

Leaving on martial was a masterstroke in what way, in terms of winning the match?

All fans are entitled to their opinions of course but I long for the day this clown is fired. I don't think he will last the season. I hope he doesn't anyway.

13.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 20:39:08
Oh he was being serious mumbles. You should be thankful for the education??.

14.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 20:42:52
So where do you stand on this Ken? :D.

15.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 21:08:03
I'm not on the fence anyway spenno that's for sure. ?If we get stuck with him I hope he succeeds but I believe our best chance of success this year is if we fire him soon so that a competent manager comes in and develops a style of play that compliments the Talented squad we have that gets the most from them.
We have 3 fixtures before the intl break now that are fairly easy on paper as none of them are a top team. Let's hope we win them.

16.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 21:24:45
Mumbles you said: 'But do you actually think we'll win the league? Does anybody? If your answer is no, then ask yourself what's the point? '. So that by rationale if we can't win the league we should bypass the season presumably. I wonder if you were around in the 80s. Seeing crap teams week in week out and just a couple of cup wins to celebrate in an entire decade. But maybe back then football wasn't about just winning, and certainly not about winning the league. I support United win, lose or draw. Do I want us to be in a stronger position - absolutely. Do I want us to sign the best players - yes. Do I want us to win all before us - of course. But I will survive it if we don't!

17.) 23 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 21:25:01
Cheshire Red has plenty of opinion, but his points need underpinning. The premise is that Ole is building a house, a strong house, that will give everyone what they want and we need to shut up and take the garbage whilst it is built. The issue is the foundations, they are not built on solid ground. Cheshire Red is missing a key unambiguous point, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer does not have the proven skill set, the history to build the foundations. He has not won anything since the Norwegian cup in 2013, he is not SAF of Aberdeen, yet we are told he will win the league next season. Purely based on what Ole did in 99 and not on his managerial ability.
If Cheshire Red comes on to post that type of stuff, it means he is too close to Ole, can’t see reality of what we are watching. The players and staff live mostly in Cheshire, so his post is not to upset them, it looks more of a parody than a real post.

18.) 24 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 21:58:25
A parody like his ltk signing predictions.

19.) 24 Sep 2021
23 Sep 2021 23:25:33
Ken, I had to ask. Leaving Martial on in a game we didn't score was a masterclass? Deary me.

Halesini, you're missing the point. I don't think we have Devine right to win football matches let alone trophies. My point is that th manager is in his 4th season in charge, has spent a fortune. If fans don't think Ole can win the league with this squad then there are other managers out there that possibly could.

As Red Man says, Cheshire is caught up with how the club want to be perceived. I'm sure if you had a cocktail with Jeff Bezos he'd tell you how great Amazon is to work for and not that his staff have to p. in buckets because they're not allowed take toilet breaks.

Where's Saul Cheshire by the way?

20.) 24 Sep 2021
24 Sep 2021 12:44:05
Mumbles, Ken, we will finally be rid of the lazy, disinterested and very average Martial as by leaving him on even Joel Glazer can now see the wood for the trees and he is now going to be replaced.

As for Saul, did you not bother reading why we didn't sign him? You might search for it Mumbles, I couldn't have given more accurate info if he had posted himself. Perhaps also take notice of what he said himself about the position he was desperate to play in and that we didn't want him in that position.

I have no problem if you think I am biased and have no rationale. Up to you. I will also keep posting when relevant my in the know insight, you and Ken, backed by the occasional RedMan rant make my laugh, you are obsessed with a point of view that you're desperate to validate where the odds are very much in your favour as neg heads given its Chelsea and Liverpool had 3 to 5 years headstart in their squads and we are still playing clean up of the 8 years of misery and poor decisions and oversight.

All those people are now almost 10 years older and wiser, its amazing they have shown they accept that and they continue to focus on their weaknesses to improve them and to create greater strengths.

Strange how you three are happy to challenge me on what you see as anything inaccurate, yet you don't challenge each other.

All I have done in responding is challenging your completely biased and inaccurate comments spoken from absolutely zero insight in the people themselves.

I especially love the comment worst manager since Dave Sexton. Hysterical. Just the funniest ABOGS comment yet, that in time will become a classic! In the top 3 of all time quotes, only surpassed by 3 years of excuses and its still crap. ta ra fergie and of course, ypu will never win anything with kids! Can we please enshrine the soon to be a classic Dave Sexton quote, it has every chance of being the best of the lot!

21.) 24 Sep 2021
24 Sep 2021 16:59:16
Let's wait and see fella let's wait and see. Xx.

22.) 24 Sep 2021
24 Sep 2021 19:26:47
Oh we will Ken and as usual you go for the most advantageous odds available to you knowing there are 3 strong other contenders to win the league and 4 other clubs hunting Haalands signature.

We certainly will see, but telling me I've spoken about fantasy signings when I've been very accurate and when I did not know I said so is just rude and unnecessary.

Tuchel has already shown the worst of traits in managers, ole was totally honest with the player and his agent, tuchel has already gone back on his word. Integrity is a trait every player respects OGS for an he will get the best from them as a result to a point but it is not on him if we see players like Martial not even caring or making an effort.

We both say what we believe but you want to mock posters who dare to see positives and identify proof. We have dropped 2 points all season, best away record EVER in the Premier, substitutes turning the game at West Ham away to win the game despite a shocking referee and you're still not happy.

If we wanted Saul he would be at United. For years people moaned there is no plan or strategy and yet for 3 years now we have walked away from more deals than we did because the deal didn't fit the original united way and we wait for the right players to build a world class squad.

It takes years to build from where we were, I remain utterly gobsmacked that is not evident to you that all of those players came to united because of what they saw as a proper project with a clear vision, but then they're signing 4 or 5 year deals with that in mind, not ringing their agent for a move if we drop points or have an off day. Dear me, if you cannot wait and give credit for where we ate now, the players we have, the structure, the backroom staff, the changes to the whole set of teams and their leaders and coaches right down to the under 9s, all architected on Fergies mentality of build a club not a first 11 then I have no idea what would ever make you happy.

Claiming United are playing poor football is just ridiculous, is your memory that short that you don't remember Van Gaal or Mourinhos style? The last 3 years of Fergie were painful to watch, all driven by the takeover beginning to impact the club. Two World class managers puldbt deliver in 5 years yet Ole is the problem? Look at the team we have, look at the plans we have for the next windows where the jigsaw is hopefully completed, if you cannot see this is the best squad we have built in over a decade then I genuinely feel for you!