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01 Feb 2014 17:13:51
Your season is getting better and better. Even after spending 37 mill you still can't beat a very poor stoke. I bet your all going to start watching new castles and southamptons results more closely from now on. Mid season battle here you come

1.) Tell us about it, after all, you've been there long enough!

2.) Sorry, you talking about the past there. The present is all that counts. Sitting nicely in fourth. Not going to count my chickens yet, but three points against w b and a good game against arsenal and third is in reach. I bet you all wish you had Rodgers

3.) I refuse to debate with a person who writes Newcastle as new castles.

4.) C'mon MG.you're expecting an awful lot of a scouser!

5.) You just have ha ha

6.) Good things come to those who wait.we have waited long enough.
YNWA

23 Jan 2014 16:23:05
All this talk of Mata is makng me laugh. You think one player is really going to change things. The only way Mata will change things, is if you make him your manager

1.) Thanks for your concern.

2.) WHY LAUGH? Is he going to make us a worse team?NO. Will he make us a better team?YES. NO MORE NEGATIVITY.

3.) How's the Salah deal going?

4.) 23 Jan 2014 16:48:30
Looks like Mata is in the bag just Vidal Reus Gundogan a centre half & left back & were back in business

5.) Mata is just the beginning red81, MU are planning a huge build in the summer.

Salah will be a great player for Chelsea ;)

6.) Haha You So Funny.

However No One player won't Correct everything. But its a step in the Right direction.

7.) Let's see how much of an influence one player can have when Suarez goes to Madrid in the summer

8.) Thanks Sydney, that's so sweet of you :)
Enjoy Mata, lads. He's an amazing player as well as a genuinely good person. I wish him the best at your club, use him well. ;)

9.) Sorry I forgot that we played the first six games with out him and did not lose. Did we not also play you in that time. Remind me. What was the score Sydney. If and I say if Luis goes, we still have Sturridge, borini will be back and we will add to the team with the 100 plays mill. And if salah does not want to join us then that is fine. Liverpool do not beg players ever. You either sign for us, or regret it.

10.) Red81 - "you either sign for us, or regret it"

Cheers mate, that cheesy line just cheered me up no end.

Like something out of a bad mafia movie :)

11.) Red81, like I said. Clubs with massive piles of cash and good academy set-ups do not wither away. We may have a blip which is understandable given our manager of 27 years has retired, but we will come back stronger. Mata is just the beginning of a massive build and even with us spending £150m-£200m over the next couple of years, we will still break-even comfortably with the FFPR. Liverpool do not meet the FFPR and could be thrown out of the UCL if you manage to qualify. You do not have a penny to scratch your arse with lad.

12.) Make sure around come may. We can have a chat about both of our league positions. Even better. Stay around for the next couple of years. I'll copy your messages and wait till I can paste them back. I believe that your not the best at making predictions as this season have proven

13.) RED81

After your terrific start to the season and Suarez being on fire and pretty much most things have gone your way, including the wonderful spanish fouls.

Come may and if you for some reason have finished 6th and a summer to look forward to with your main guy looking to jump ship, would you say you are progressing?

20 Jan 2014 19:03:54
Please guys, don't see my posts as gloating and I realise that there is a long way to go before the end of the season. I live In Manchester so I realise that gloating can only bit me on the ass. I'm just pointing out what has gone wrong. In relation to your academy, the last time you produced anything of note was your platform to success. Recently thought, it's not been great. And Sydney, I wouldn't brag that cleverly was from your youth set up. All I am saying is that the board must have known fergie was leaving, so why didn't they put a plan together, instead of just seeing what happens next. When'd fergie left you lost more then just a manager. Unfortunately for you guys you replaced him with just a manager. In my opinion and a humble one at that, you should have gone for someone to steady the ship, perhaps a bit more experience to work alongside moves. A manager that could have taken the heat off him a bit more. Instead, moves was always doomed to fail in his first season and unfortunately it does not take long for the fans to get on his back.

1.) Who was the last top notch player to come from Liverpool's academy? Gerrard? How long ago? Kelly? Flanagan LOL. Chelsea's academy? Terry, although didn't he sign at 15? City's? Micah Richards perhaps? When it comes to talent being produced it's usually by us or Arsenal.

Like I said, top clubs have a good income or a good academy, we have both.

2.) Flanagan will be a top full back so no lol there. We have I've, Kelly, sterling although we did buy him at 15, Ibe, rossiter ask ed02 about him, infact, I would say that that our youth team looks promising. Sorry, I also forgot wisdom, McLaughlin, Alberto again bought, but still looks good, borini again another purchase but again good, Sturridge, Allen, yessil need I go on. We have the second youngest squad and a great young manager.

3.) They are all bought players. I can name bought players but you told me not to.

Wisdom bought at 15, Alberto bought at 20, Sturridge bought at 23, Yesil at 18, Ibe at 15, Sterling at 15, Allen 22, Borini at 21 were all bought.

The only senior players you have that was developed at Liverpool from a very young age are Gerrard, Kelly & Flanagan. That's it LOL.

4.) @red81

The word great is thrown around too loosely these days.
Is Brendan great? No, he isn't.

Great managers are people like Jose, Pep, Anchelotti to name a few. Brendan has a long long way to go to reach the great stauts.

5.) Red81. You signed Sturridge at 23. How exactly does that make him a product of your youth system?

Flanagan is not too bad and Ibe and Sterling both look promising (I've not heard of Rossiter or McLaughlin).

At 23 - I don't see Kelly improving much more which does not bode well - as he is a Championship player at best atm. Borini came through Chelski's youth setup and is a mid-table type player. Room to improve but some way to go.

Wisdom doesn't look too bad but again will never be world class. I've not seen Alberto but he came to you at 20 years old so can hardly be described as having come through your academy.

In short the only player of note to have come anywhere near your youth setup in recent years and shown any real promise is Sterlin - and he spent seven years with QPR before moving to Liverpool.

6.) You bought almost everyone you mentioned!

7.) Liverpool have a good youth, as does Chelsea, City have by far the best crop of youngsters. Not to forget Arsenal either.

what determines whether a player counts as a success? for me it's that player playing at a high level whether it's United or not.

Currently, United have more ex academy players playing EPL football than any other club.

Off the top of my head; Ben Foster, Ryan Shawcross, Wes Brown, John O'shea, Robbie Brady, Gibson, Campbell, Morrison, Daelhi.

and that's not counting the lads at United.

8.) Red81 you really will have these comments come back round in the not so distant future and bite you in the arse as Wilson and Pearson will be better than Owen and Gerrard throw in Januzaj and the Keane twins plus Perriera then the humble pie you will be eating for 15 years should taste sore as hell and leave you with a bad taste in your mouth

9.) Please do go on because sturridge and allen where far from youngsters when you got them and flanagan sorry to say squad player at best

just face the facts as syd said we will never fade away like liverpool did

ps there a long season to go yet who is to say we won't finish above you?

10.) And remind us where have united finished in the u21's for the last few years?

11.) LOL that is hilarious guys and good work. Basically not one player in that list is youth product. I needed something to cheer me up.

12.) Not sure you read my post. I mentioned the players we bought, however, what I was saying is that we have players to bring us forward. Look there is no point in arguing. We will see at the end of the season. And to redseven you will defiantly have heard of rossiter in two years time. That boy will grace the league will class.

13.) What is also funny is that their only product of note they have as in "Stevie G" is being slagged off as being past it on their own site . All because they drew at home to villa! Well funny!

14.) NM, I will answer you, we are the current U21 Champions.

2012/13 Champions of England.

15.) Kate, Wilson and Pearson will be fine players.

16.) Ok syd ill give you a list of lfc u21's who are showing real signs of promise at the moment! Alexander, biao, bizev, canos, chirivella, cleary, dunn (this lad is utter class) teixeira, trickett-smith, paez, rossiter who infact is only 16 and is brilliant, harry wilson who has already made his full international debut for wales at the age of 16. The teams last result? A 4-2 victory at arsenal. Not too bad eh? I understand that united do produce top young players, but to suggest that lfc aren't is wide of the mark! And these lads were just off the top of my head, there's many more!

ian the red

17.) Anyone can just name their youth team, we have 11 in our youth team as well, that's shows us nothing.

18.) Ian, I have never suggested Liverpool are not producing top young players. All clubs have top young players. Perhaps you should read what he wrote further down before you butt in. He asked me:

"when was the last time you produced a first team player and I don't mean a player you bought at 16"

I mentioned Cleverley, Welbeck, Ravel, Evans, Fletcher, Giggs. Then there's Scholes, Butt, Nevilles, Beckham etc. Then he mentioned Allen, Sturridge, Ibe, Sterling, Borini, Wisdom, Yesil & Alberto who were all purchased.

I didn't even mention the current academy players. As you will know MU aren't short of exceptional young talent either.

20 Jan 2014 15:58:57
Sydney, that is the problem, you just presume you have the right to be at the top. Unfortunately you will have to learn the way we had to learn, the hard way. Without the correct investment, you will have trouble reaching the top again. Your problem now lies with who is going to join you. I realise that you are still a top club, especially with your history, however, some players will not join because of the uncertainty surrounding you. Will Moyes still be there, will you get in the champs league, will the owners invest, and will Rooney still be there. There are too many if’s and buts. Your summer signing should have be picked by Moyes, but signed by Fergie. That way players would have joined. Instead, the targets you had wanted to buy their time waiting to see what happened. For the time being you have to sit back and watch Man City rule the English league. Don’t worry though, we will try and knock them of their perch, lol

1.) Red81, any club with a top notch academy and between £400-£500m revenue should be near the top. That goes without saying, well I thought it did. MU will not just wither away, not like you did and not because you want us to.

2.) Red81
just because your having middle of the road season for once doesn't mean it will last
i wouldn't worry to much about united we will be back soon enough

3.) In Syd's defense given the money we bring in through sponsorships, merchandise, fanbase, etc we SHOULD be at the top. Unfortunately the way the club is currently being run I worry how we're going to compete with Manchester City and Chelsea over the coming years given the kind of silly money that is being pumped into them.

I don't think we will have a problem with who is going to join us. In terms of managerial changes (or lack of them) we blow other teams out of the water. There may be uncertainty surrounding Moyes but Manchester United have shown that the right manager will be given time. Moyes may not be the right manager in this instance but you can guarantee if the club decide to get rid of him they will do everything in their power to make sure the next manager IS.

4.) Red81, I don't think MU have the right to win the league every year. That would be incredibly boring. I do believe we should be challenging at the top. Big clubs should always be challenging for titles. Especially when you have the academy and funds to make it happen, like I said above.

5.) What top notch academy is this. When was the last time you produced a first team player and I don't mean a player you bought of 16. and your revenue is swapped by debt. wake up and smell the coffee. The truth hurts pal. your owners have some tough choices to make. stick or twist, what will it be

6.) Red81, the same academy which is higher than you in the standings. I don't know about top notch, but our most recent established players are Cleverley and Welbeck. Evans, Fletcher, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Nevilles, Butt in the past. Ravel Morrison was produced by our academy and we have raised Januzaj and Pogba from 15-19 albeit Pogba and Ravel left.

In terms of debt, what does debt matter when the club are making profits of £150m after interest is paid?

7.) Red81

I would not gloat too much. It is funny old game and you are starting to leak and I expect it to continue. It is not how fast you get out of the gate mate but about how well you finish.

Come on back in 8 weeks time and I would be interested to see how you are doing:)

8.) God created. Your wrong, there are a few players mentioned from the youth set up, liverpool born and bread. The youth set up also includes players scouted and bought at a young age, as Sydney said. Most top flight teams work this way. Teams lower down recruit the young young players as this is how the survive. The top clubs then take the gamble on them often paying good money. Rafa worked hard in ensuring our youth team came good. But you probably didn't know that as you have your utd blinkers on. Also did none of you read my first post. Just because I am a liverpool fan, it's does not mean you just have to disagree. Try having an educated conversation. Redseven seems to be the only one capable

9.) The funniest comment was red81 saying they'll knock city off their perch. City have won an fa cup and a premiership. So I don't think they're on a perch, yet! But they might be after a few years and Liverpool will not be knocking them off their perch!

19 Jan 2014 22:48:22
Sydney, I never said you would never make top four again, I said you wouldn't win anything for long time. Football goes in cycles, it's your turn to watch others win. Pancho, our team is no where near peak performance, if you don't realise that we have several first teamers out injured and still a few signing sort. However the future in merseyside is a lot brighter. Our manager players exciting football, our youth team looks good and we have owners that put the team fiancées first. Manchester United troubles started with the glazers. Lack of future investment has cost you. Lack of forward thinking has cost you. I still can't believe that transfers were not planned in advance of fergie leaving. This season will cost you at least five years. Moyes is your version of souness

1.) Fergie was worth 15 points - that required investment in a team that was deteriorating over last two seasons even though they won the league

Interesting time ahead for you guys as new signings will want Champ League and you have issues with recent contracts if you don't qualify

Very interesting

2.) All of this is what you hope rather than what is actually happening. You can't know for sure what is going to happen so you have your fingers crossed united will win nothing for years, you want us more than anything to be another Liverpool, but you don't know for sure, so don't state it as if it is fact.

It makes me laugh how Liverpool fans think their team is so brilliant. You have Henderson, Allen an Lucas in midfield, Gerrard doesn't have long left. Without Suarez you have a much worse team than United, our big rivals for 4th are spurs, I think it is pretty clear with rvp and Rooney fit that united are better than Liverpool, as we will show you at old Trafford in march.

3.) And I can't believe I responded without mentioning how lucky the players fiancées are that the owners are spending so much money on them, no wonder these girls go out looking for footballers to go out with if their bosses are spending all their money on th once they agree to get married!

4.) I agree with what you say about the glazers . I've been saying for years before I came on here. I just thought it was hilarious you coming in here laughing at us when on your own site you would think you had lost 7 nil yesterday the way your lot are going on. Indicating a fragile confidence!

5.) Football does go in cycles red81, but not 25 year cycles. MU will not go away, not ever. MU will be making too much cash over the next few years to not be challenging for honours. Monster cash and a very good academy will see us through this blip.

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Sorry, you talking about the past there. The present is all that counts. Sitting nicely in fourth. Not going to count my chickens yet, but three points against w b and a good game against arsenal and third is in reach. I bet you all wish you had Rodgers

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Make sure around come may. We can have a chat about both of our league positions. Even better. Stay around for the next couple of years. I'll copy your messages and wait till I can paste them back. I believe that your not the best at making predictions as this season have proven

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Sorry I forgot that we played the first six games with out him and did not lose. Did we not also play you in that time. Remind me. What was the score Sydney. If and I say if Luis goes, we still have Sturridge, borini will be back and we will add to the team with the 100 plays mill. And if salah does not want to join us then that is fine. Liverpool do not beg players ever. You either sign for us, or regret it.

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God created. Your wrong, there are a few players mentioned from the youth set up, liverpool born and bread. The youth set up also includes players scouted and bought at a young age, as Sydney said. Most top flight teams work this way. Teams lower down recruit the young young players as this is how the survive. The top clubs then take the gamble on them often paying good money. Rafa worked hard in ensuring our youth team came good. But you probably didn't know that as you have your utd blinkers on. Also did none of you read my first post. Just because I am a liverpool fan, it's does not mean you just have to disagree. Try having an educated conversation. Redseven seems to be the only one capable

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Not sure you read my post. I mentioned the players we bought, however, what I was saying is that we have players to bring us forward. Look there is no point in arguing. We will see at the end of the season. And to redseven you will defiantly have heard of rossiter in two years time. That boy will grace the league will class.