Manchester United Banter Archive September 11 2018

 

Use our rumours form to send us manchester united transfer rumours.


Naby Keita: A review of his progress so far at Liverpool FC

11 Sep 2018 16:26:13
{Ed's Note - Phil_LFC has posted a new article entitled, Naby Keita: A review of his progress so far at Liverpool FC

Believable0 Unbelievable0

Underrated Managers In English Football

11 Sep 2018 16:01:14
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Underrated Managers In English Football

Believable1 Unbelievable0

11 Sep 2018 09:36:37
Shaw out of the Watford game as he has to follow a seven day return to play protocol for concusssion. Real shame because he's been our best player so far this season.

I'd like to see us play dalot at left back ahead of young on Saturday. I think we will because as we know Watford are a big physical side, and he's a big lad and very strong too. He would also offer us something going forward a bit like shaw has been doing.

Believable4 Unbelievable3

11 Sep 2018 13:34:00
You want us to play a 19 year who has just come back from injury and had no pre-season in a game away from home at an unbeaten side as his United debut, way to throw the lad in at the deep end. What if he struggles? Do we then all throw him under the bus and blame Woodward / Jose for buying a useless player?

Young for me with Dalot on the bench, bring him on if we are ahead.

Agree10 Disagree3

11 Sep 2018 14:34:41
And if Young plays and doesn’t do great he will just get pelters anyway. What’s wrong with wanting to see dalot play? He’s meant to be a big talent so why not see what he’s made off?

Agree2 Disagree1

11 Sep 2018 15:26:59
Caolan, as gds says, Dalot is a young 19yr old who has been injured and has just been signed and moved into a new country and a new league. You want to play him against an in form Watford side away from home, and who are very physical, and you want to play him out of position on the left. Are you seriously thinking this through? The mind boggles.

Agree6 Disagree2

11 Sep 2018 19:57:47
I have thought it through, and yes I’d still like to see him given a game. Played most of his football for Porto T left back. A good crosser of the ball strong and quick. I didn’t say he’s going to play but I’d like to see him play. That’s all I said.

Agree2 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 20:28:22
young scores against Watford all the time, he’s the first name on the sheet for me!

Agree1 Disagree0

12 Sep 2018 08:29:33
In my opinion this isn't the game to play him in. There is a good chance of it being a potential banana skin, Jose has often hung the blame for losses around the necks of young players. If Dalot doesn't put in a man of the match performance, and we lose then his chances might be slim for the next month or so. Especially if he makes a costly mistake.

The lad only played a handful of games for Porto's first team. He is lacking experience at this level. To throw him in to a tricky away game so shortly after he has recovered from injury (I don't think he has played 90 minutes in any game since his injury) against a side yet to lose who play with a level of physicality he will have never experienced is just setting him up for a hiding to nothing.

I want to see him play as much as the next person, his performances for the under 23's looked very promising. However, his rehabilitation from the first big injury of his career has to be managed carefully, especially as he has moved country and is stepping up into a far more competitive league. It is important that he is eased in gently and against the right opposition.

He won't be given the chances to play through the mistakes and given the backing that DDG had when he first moved to us.

In fact I'm certain that if Jose was our manager when DDG came to us, he would have been dropped and sold within two years and we wouldn't now have arguably the world best keeper.

That's a thought to ponder on when Jose is dropping players like Rashford, Martial and Shaw for small mistakes.

Agree3 Disagree2

12 Sep 2018 13:09:59
John terry mafe plenty of howlers as a young player jose never sold him but you are certain he would gave sold ddg.
Perhaps Shaw knows more than you shappy and he sayid last week he was not in the right physical or mental conditiin to play and jose was right to critisise him.
Rashford made more appearances than any other player last season at 19/ 20 years of age
And martial was not dropped for silly mistakes.
You are just making stuff up shaps.
Could it be that jose knew more than you and i about shaw and he protected him last season and both coach and player are reaping the rewards so far this season because of that?
But he stuck with shaw he didn't sell him. So your certainty that he would have sold ddg comes from your own bias.
I concede he propably wouldn't have bought ddg at that age.
You could be right shappy but i think you should consider that you could be wrong too.

Agree2 Disagree2

12 Sep 2018 13:14:05
To the guy that stated that Watford are a potential banana skin sort your head out. Currently we are a banana skin for Watford.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Sep 2018 14:14:31
Id stick with young for lb for this game.
Id have no objection if dalot played right back but i think its a game for the experienced players and on balance it might be too early for him. More likey we will see him make his debut v derby in the league cup.

Agree0 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 09:28:03
Hey Ed001, just wanted to get your opinion on Ruud van Nistelrooy and robin van persie? how good did you think they were?

Believable0 Unbelievable0

{Ed001's Note - both excellent players though RVN stands out as the better of the two. He was world class.}

11 Sep 2018 12:38:38
Don't you think RVP was world-class Ed? Or did the injuries stop that from happening?

Agree2 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - he only really had two seasons where he peaked as a forward. He spent most of his career on the wing and/or injured. Because of that, despite his peak being world class, I can't see him as an overall career being a world class one.}

11 Sep 2018 12:55:54
Rvp’s technique was incredible. I remember the first time I heard of him he scored a stunning volley against Charlton for arsenal! Off course we remember the volley against villa, but I think his first goal for us against Fulham was his best in a United shirt. Shame we only really got one Top season out of him.

Agree3 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 13:09:33
Fair assessment Ed, but at his peak, albeit for two seasons, he was out of this world. Apparently we were paying well over the odds for a 29yr old when we signed him👌🏻.

Agree4 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 14:23:29
Yeh Caolan, the way he hit that vs Fulham was actually incredible, on the volley, half turn and bang, off my seat! Also loved his finish vs Liverpool at home that season, clinical.

Agree2 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 15:23:02
Ruud for me. I agree with Ed. Two great seasons is not enough to establish RVP as a great, despite the talent he showed when fit.

Just to be controversial, I still think that buying RVP may have been a great short term purchase by SAF, but as far as the long term development of the side was concerned it was a bad move symptomatic of the malaise for which we are now paying the price.

Agree0 Disagree3

11 Sep 2018 17:08:24
Shawthing could not have said it better myself.
Might have been worth regenerating our midfield rather than buying rvp.

Agree0 Disagree2

11 Sep 2018 19:00:59
Without RvP we wouldn't have won our last title. He scored so many vital goals in Sir Alex's final season.

However, we were linked with Lewandowski at the same time. I always wonder what would have been if we signed him instead of RvP.

Agree2 Disagree1

11 Sep 2018 19:53:08
What would have happened if we signed Lewandowski is we might not have won the league in 2013 and he'd probably be at Madrid right now. RVP was a perfect signing, one who fired us to the title, no chance is that signing questionable. If we didn't sign him, again, we may not have won the league and we'd be worse off that season and still go into the s*heap that we have done so.

Agree5 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 20:05:58
I honestly believe that title win, was one of the best individual campaigns we’ve seen at United. The winner against city. So many memories.

Agree5 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 20:32:33
RVP was the difference, I think it was fate. He wa ok until the season before we signed him when he was brilliant, he joined us and changed so many games. It was as if he was meant to join us and that season was spooky. Our play was so ordinary for so many games, conceded so many early goals, and RVP dug us out and secured the points. His incredible volley at the end was a parting swan song: he’s like the one night stand where sex was so good you think no other woman can live up to it, and so far, no other woman has.

Agree4 Disagree0

11 Sep 2018 21:02:18
It was a weird season AJH, went behind in quite a few games that season, conceded goals for fun, didn't dominate much games, football wasn't full of quality but my oh my was it entertaining, and winning.

Agree2 Disagree0

12 Sep 2018 09:19:27
Didn’t we score something like 10 goals in stoppage time? And come from behind in 12/ 13 games.

Agree0 Disagree0

12 Sep 2018 13:20:23
Its my fav title win simply because it was our last one and because of the way we lost out the previous year.
Rvp an aging star bought for a short term fix.
He was an inspired signing and put in an inspirational season.
It what jose hoped ibra would do but despite a simialar goal tally it wasnt to be.
Bud for me RVN is the best cf I've seen play for the club over the last 40 years.
I loved Stuart pearson and mark hughes. I don't really consider rooney or cantona to have been a traditional cf as they ofen played deeper and in rooneys case off either side.
RVN was simply a fantastic goal scorer. Up there with fowler for me as one of the best finishers in epl history.

Agree2 Disagree0

Review Of The Day 11th September 2018

11 Sep 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th September 2018

Believable0 Unbelievable0

11 Sep 2018 14:27:22
Mark Noble provides a boost Ed? 😂😂 Desperate measures, legendary midfield of Wilshere and Noble, Kroos and Modric got nothing on them.

Agree1 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - exactly mate. Noble pushing the Wheelchair around is a perfect combination...}

11 Sep 2018 19:53:47
They're both so bad neither can push each other to be better Ed, surprised they got rid of Obiang tbh.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - they haven't. He just is on the bench, which is stupid.}

11 Sep 2018 21:57:47
My bad, thought he'd gone to Sampadoria in the summer, coupled with the fact i haven't seen him play this season. Better than them both aswell, easily.

Agree0 Disagree0

{Ed001's Note - he wanted to return but the deal fell through.}