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26 Apr 2024 19:10:21
Ed002 - If you've got time please, even if Utd wanted to sell Rashford or he wanted to leave is there any genuine interest in taking him? Given his current form and massive wages I wouldn't suspect there is a big queue? Thanks in advance.
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{Ed002's Note - I am getting sick of answering the same quesions over and over. It is a complete waste of my time.
Marcus Rashford (LW/F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs, including Juventus and Arsenal about him on behalf of Manchester United, but I am not aware of any serious interest. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.}
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26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.
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25 Apr 2024 19:17:18
Ed it has been reported that Dan Ashworth is taking Newcastle to arbitration to try and resolve the issue of moving onto his new job.
To me this is a very bad look and may not reflect well on them when they replace Ashworth or maybe even when they try to buy players would clubs/ players see it this way?
Or am I looking at it wrongly, I'm not trying to absolve united they may not have acted right in this either.
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{Ed002's Note - It is a case of someone signing a contract they wish to break and the compensation that is goining to be required to be negotiated. In terms of transfers, it won't be a huge issue, but it needs resolving.}
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25 Apr 2024 18:27:03
Hi Ed002. I read your update on our current list of targets and watched players and have to thank you for such an in depth list. It was a brilliant read. I couldn’t help but notice though that a lot of the players on this list would best fit a 3 at the back with wing backs system. Do you have any information on that being the case? We only appear to be focussing on wing backs rather than your more traditional full backs. I think it would be a great tactical switch and would suit a lot of our current players if it was a 343.
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{Ed002's Note - It will depend on ten Hag departing and a replacement.}
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26 Apr 2024 02:33:35
Are united looking at coaches who will play 3 at the back?
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{Ed002's Note - No, they are look at coaches - some may play different formations.}
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26 Apr 2024 16:25:05
Thanks for the reply Ed. It would certainly seem like the players you have mentioned would fit a back 3 system, especially those who you have hinted to being the first choice in their position. We’ll have to see what happens and who takes over.
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26 Apr 2024 19:27:30
Southgate loves a back 3 doesn't he. I pray to God Ineos have their homework done and steer well clear.
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24 Apr 2024 18:50:03
Hi ed002. With the new Graham Potter is close to joining ajax. Does that leave Southgate as firm favourite to take over if ten hag was to depart. Or has tuchel become a serious consideration. Thanks.
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{Ed002's Note - Southgate would be ahead of Potter I would think now - he has a lot of options - then perhaps Thomas Tuchel.}
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24 Apr 2024 23:22:38
Zidane is SJR's pick.
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25 Apr 2024 07:42:21
Heaven help us if it is Southgate, more years in the shadows oncoming.
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25 Apr 2024 07:49:35
Really not sure who I’d want at the moment. By the sound of it, ENEOS and the people they’re starting to bring in will ultimately determine who we sign, and, presumably, the style of football we’ll be playing. With that in mind, I feel like what we really need is a manager who can get the players fired up and performing at their best and who knows how to manage a game.
Ten Haag has shown that he’s unable to do either of those things, but so too have a lot of the names that are being thrown around at the moment. As for some of the bigger names that were being linked with (Tuchel, Zidane, Mou), I worry that not all of them would be happy having transfer targets being determined by a committee. I’m sure that whoever we end up with will still be part of these discussions, but the club signing players that managers don’t really want (or failing to secure their top targets) is something that’s caused issues with a lot of our post-SAF managers.
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25 Apr 2024 08:23:06
Lots of reports that it’s been decided we’re moving from a transition style to a more possession based style (influenced by ex-City Berarda, Wilcox, wat Nice play etc)
Is Southgate the right man to implement this style? Does anyone know what his instinctive style is?
Also, seems like Wilcox etc currently evaluating which players will be able to adapt to a more possession based style….
Can’t think of many, and thus also is a negative against Bruno, as he’s better in a quick transition.
Maybe he’ll need to go also?
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25 Apr 2024 09:08:53
Southgate wouldn't be my pick but then I don't get a say in the decision. As a supporter my role is to support the team.
I'm actually a lot less worried about who the club hire as the next manager this time. Over the past decade the running of the club has been so poor that it's been absolutely vital that we hire the right manager, as ultimately that is the guy who will decide the majority of what we do and the clubs sporting direction.
The wrong man means several years heading in the wrong direction. That's why I was concerned when we hired Mourinho. Great manager, and a good personality within football. Yet he has a very short term approach, and plays very pragmatic football. Sure he'll get you competing for things, but often at the expense of building a team for the medium to long term. That for me was the exact opposite of what we needed at that time.
This time however things are different, we aren't hiring a manager to do it all, we are hiring a head coach to manage the team. With new expert people in place and soon to be in place to plan for the long term, to think about an over arching style/ vision, to plan youth progression etc. While the next manager will have a say in transfers he won't be leading the recruitment, which means that the following manager won't be left to try and fit players signed for the previous manager into his team.
If it's Southgate and he doesn't do well then we sack him in a year or twos time with minimal impact on the team.
The squad needs a massive rebuild, we won't realistically be winning anything over the next season or two. While a massive squad turnover means playing style will be inconsistent.
Maybe Southgate's steadying hand like he's done with England won't be a bad thing. Especially if we have someone like Gary O'Neil working with him on tactics and style of play.
Either way, I don't see hiring managers as being as fundamental to our success right now as it has been over the past decade.
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25 Apr 2024 09:15:59
Maybe we’re all being a bit unfair towards Southgate in our universal opinion that we don’t want him: after all, he’s brought together a very dysfunctional England setup and got them playing together?
However, he does seem rather dour and lacking charisma, as well as sticking with favourites and appearing tactically rigid - and a bit of a “yes” man in an archaic institution.
Does anyone know a bit more about Southgate’s coaching methods, what players think of his methods and if he is actually any good?
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24 Apr 2024 20:04:01
Thanks Ed. Would there be anyone else to keep an eye on, who may be strongly linked.
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{Ed002's Note - Zinedine Zidane (C) I understand an advisor told Liverpool not to discount Zidane after discussions over another job for him are delayed pending a change of club ownership. However, I think Liverpool are a very unlikely option with much preferred targets. He would perhaps like to await the Juventus job, but they have a preferred option, or to take over the French National side but that would require Didier Deschamps to step down before the next World Cup. May be offered a chance at Manchester United and should not be discounted, but again they have preferred options, but perhaps not better options. Wildcard would be Bayern Munich, Chelsea or Real Madrid but Bayern have a preferred target, the Chelsea job will most likely head elsewhere and Ancelotti will be at Madrid until 2026.
There are others who may be possible.}
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25 Apr 2024 00:07:15
Hi Ed 002
Two questions if possible
Do you think appointing Southgate is a good move? Does not look to have any discernible style with England and does not seem to play attractive/ attacking football - how do you think he would fare at Utd and club level football?
Secondly - I thought Ten Hag would be a great appointment. What do you think has gone wrong for him exactly? Is it purely the Utd set up above him or does he lack the required skill or charisma? Do players just not like him? Thanks as always.
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{Ed002's Note - 1. I would not be happy with Southgate if I was a Manchester United supporter.
2. Eric ten Hag arrived at Manchester United and had to fit in to a flawed structure. He is also a miserable bugger and authoritarian.}
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25 Apr 2024 11:14:21
I’d rather keep ten Hag over Southgate. That being said, if Erik is a miserable sod, you can see this influencing the squad, as they all look miserable too.
I’d go all in for Zizou as player/ coach! 😆
Tuchel I just don’t get, and apparently he’s too strict as well.
Anyone else we’re linked with beyond these guys if Potter is going to Ajax?
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25 Apr 2024 11:52:45
Very worrying that they would offer it to Southgate.
Personally, I think ETH deserves another year under a better structure and better players.
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{Ed002's Note - There are options other than Gareth Southgate.}
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25 Apr 2024 12:33:30
There are other options but the focus right now is on these options.
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25 Apr 2024 12:41:32
I still get the feeling we may go after Amorim, I'm not sure why, I'm not sure he would be the man for any style you would associate with united or any particular style I would say similar with Tuchel.
ed are you saying Southgate is top option based on the fact we have been interested in him in the past? of past on something more recent?
I'm not expecting loads of detail I just struggle to understand the thinking on him especially as a person to implement a style or structure, he may be someone who can get on with the players initially but that soon fades in club football if the wins aren't coming.
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{Ed002's Note - Gareth Southgate (C) May be a safe bet for Manchester United - very much on the list for Jim Ratcliffe. Available after the Euros and has been of interest before.
For me there are better options available.}
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25 Apr 2024 13:08:00
I'd like to add my comments above about not being the man to implement a style were about Southgate not Amorim.
Thanks for the answer ed definitely seems like better options out there. though the fact you say he's on the list for SJR makes me a little hopeful that the decision in the end will be made by Berrada, Wilcox and Ashworth and they may not be as keen on Southgate.
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{Ed002's Note - I would not get hopes up over Amorim.}
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25 Apr 2024 13:39:43
The fact that he is even seen as option though, jeez. And a top one at that.
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25 Apr 2024 16:38:34
Guessing amorim likely joining chelsea? And ed002 is De Zerbi an option and where is he likely going?
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{Ed002's Note - Roberto de Zerbi (C) Brighton would fight to keep him but another who will certainly be discussed by Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Liverpool and Manchester United with Jim Ratcliffe having a very serious interest in him. A minor issue exists in the €15M cost of Brighton releasing him. Additionally, there are termination clauses for all of his staff. Deco has de Zerbi as his preferred option for Barcelona which he has shared with Yuste and Laporte but it will not be Deco's decision and they can perhaps be excluded with avi staying another year. Not top of Chelsea's list, but on the list. Likely first choice for Bayern Munich now but they are invoking a Plan B with an interim signing. An interesting option might be Manchester City when the job becomes available. He has said he is not interested in the Liverpool job. Brighton are actively looking for a replacement and fear he may depart but will fight to keep him.
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25 Apr 2024 17:46:37
Hi Ed002,
Any chance of having a quiet word with Sir Jim about better options available than Southgate please?!
Bet he’d listen to someone as credible and well-respected as you!
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{Ed002's Note - There are options.}
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25 Apr 2024 21:04:07
Shappy why would O’Neil take a step backwards from being a head coach at Wolves (where he’s been relatively successful) to be an assistant at Utd? Maybe Ancelotti and Alonso will come be coaches under Southgate too? 😂.
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25 Apr 2024 21:46:53
Maybe with Wilcox apparently assessing the manager he will come to the conclusion that Ten Hag is the right coach for us.
He has lost his way a bit this year, maybe pressure of the job and constant scrutiny is getting him.
If Ten Hag is open to constructive criticism (I know) he might end up staying.
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25 Apr 2024 22:28:43
Fuser, I'm not saying he's going to, but that was the rumour the other week. Apparently the club are looking at hiring coaches to work with the manager rather than have all the coaching staff be hired and fired with the manager.
He would be an ambitious pick for a role like that no doubt. Do I think he'd go for it? Probably not, but I do like that my club is supposedly being ambitious enough to at least try and test the water.
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21 Apr 2024 22:20:50
Shock, horror. the manager rumours have kicked into overdrive after that debacle earlier. Apparently we have contacted tuchel. He's definitely got the credentials and is a strong character however I worry that his abrasive nature might not mesh well with what we have. Gives me mourinho vibes. What's others thoughts? Would you be happy with tuchel?
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21 Apr 2024 23:06:31
He's way clear of ETH. Not sure of his long-term stability, but at this point - beggars cannot be choosers. It's clear to me though that INEOS will conduct their research properly and interview all sorts of managers before making a decision.
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22 Apr 2024 00:28:44
I read earlier that it’s Mark Robbins.
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22 Apr 2024 09:14:29
Would not like Tuchel I don't think I've ever seen his teams actually play that well.
Honestly think i'd rather go with potter, just think the people above him would have to back him if they chose him, in my opinion he can set a style and method of play to build on.
I'd prefer Amorim if I could pick but not sure if he will be an option by the time we make a decision on ETH.
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22 Apr 2024 10:32:23
The decision on eth has been made weeks ago. No doubt about it.
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22 Apr 2024 11:13:47
Ed02 - is there any truth in the Tuchel reports? Do you think he'd be a good fit?
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{Ed002's Note - Thomas Tuchel (C) Down the list of options for Barcelona. Manchester United may provide an option as he knows Jim Ratcliffe well. Wildcard maybe a return to Chelsea but it may not be attractive to TT.}
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22 Apr 2024 15:05:36
The merry go round of reports if managers in talks with us will continue all the way through till the end of the season. There is rarely any substance to them.
Big week for real Madrid we are linked with Zidane. England play its Southgate. We play Brentford and wolves it o Neil or Frank, wait for the frnzy around de zerbi for our last game of the season. Bayern make cl semi its tuchel and on and on it goes. Its all garbage.
At the moment eth is the manager.
We don't even know for sure if he will be here or gone next season.
I don't expect anything will be any clearer until well after the cup final.
Until then I expect it to be 'business as usual' and trying to keep everything as low profile as possible between now and then.
We all have our own hopes and expectations and enjoy speculating on what might happen.
Personally I have no preference at this point I think when it's clear on whether the job is available it will become very clear who the possible candidates are.
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22 Apr 2024 14:22:11
Thanks ed.
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22 Apr 2024 15:32:05
Ed, do you think Tuchel will end up being the United manager or do you think Potter is more likely at this stage?
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{Ed002's Note - Southgate or Potter would be favourites still.}
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22 Apr 2024 16:58:10
ED002,
Who would your pick be out of those two?
Thanks.
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{Ed002's Note - Tuchel has a lot more experience so probably him.}
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22 Apr 2024 17:56:40
I would not be confident with a lot of the options around, Tuchel and Southgate along with de zerbi I just don't see them being a good option.
Tuchel I just don't rate in any way he wasn't great with Dortmund and fell out with a lot of people, PSG should have been an easy job and he made it look very difficult, Chelsea I just didn't like their football or rate him that much.
De Zerbi I just don't like his attitude and his team seems to be getting worse as they forget more and more what they learned during the potter days
Southgate boring, lifeless, and tragic, like Brendan Rodgers but English.
My preferred options of the names mentioned are first of all Amorim can't say I know much but seems to play attacking football also based on our transfer targets list ed gave us I think he'd fit well
Potter I think he'd be a good option to get a set up and style in play it would require the club to back him for a year/ 2 whilst the team was moulded and the style was set up
Seems like Amorim may be talking to clubs in London over the next couple of days, West Ham seems to be one maybe he'll talk to others? Hopefully we may be one of them.
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22 Apr 2024 20:06:11
Thanks ED002,
Any manager interested in becoming the next Utd manager needs to understand the enormity of the task in hand.
It certainly won't be for the weak minded.
In regards to Tuchel haven't players found it hard working under him, which hasn't made his job easy?
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{Ed002's Note - Yes to some extent. Like ten Hag.}
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22 Apr 2024 20:34:42
Thanks Ed. I think I’m in the minority but given the options, I’m hoping for Potter.
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22 Apr 2024 21:56:17
My mortgage on EtH staying.
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23 Apr 2024 08:28:03
Potter can never manage United, he talked about how his mental health suffered in his short tenure at Chelsea, magnify that for United and I don't believe he has the resilience to be successful at United.
Amorim, is flavour of the month, I think we have all seen enough flavour of the month managers that have fallen by the wayside. He might turn out to be a great manager, let's see what he csn do in the bigger leagues, but we aren't the right club for him at the moment.
Southgate, probably a better national manager than club manager.
Farioli, could be a good shout in a few years, but the fact there is no obvious candidate, might mean EtH gets another 12 months. Who knows, a settled defence with Martinez and Shaw back, a new CB, a new DM to replace Cas, a couple of half decent wingers we could be a good team.
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23 Apr 2024 08:53:52
Potter’s training methods and style seem to take a while to bed in. When they do, we all saw the results at Brighton.
Now that’s all well and good at Brighton, but will the fans, owners, media give him that time he didn’t get at Chelsea to do this at Utd? I think we all know he won’t be given it. The Chelsea squad is similar to ours, a mish mash of styles and personalities that just don’t buy into him as he’s not a “big name”.
My view is it’s time to rip the band aid off and clear the decks at Utd with a real plan and structure in place. If they deem Potter is the man, then let’s back him. If they deem ten Hag is, or Tuchel, same applies.
Now ten Hag has proven to be a decent coach at Ajax and Utd in his first season, but he’s lost all his credit in the bank this season. If he’s also known to be difficult, why put up with the hastle for no return anyway. Like Jose - he was a pain but he wins stuff. When he stops winning things, it’s not worth having him around.
On a different note, I attended a business session where Potter presented once whilst he was at Brighton about motivation and team building, and he was sensational.
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23 Apr 2024 10:15:48
Eric79 and Grim,
Now INEOS are in charge i'd imagine that they would give Potteror whomever will be in charge the time required to turn things around.
Given SJRs interview after the London marathon, he called for patience. He will be thinking long term and not short term.
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23 Apr 2024 12:54:59
Interesting anecdote about Potter, Eric. I think because he's quite thoughtful and quietly-spoken, a lot of people wouldn't imagine him being an inspirational type of guy. I really rate him, and I think most sensible fans would give him time to imbed his ideas. We all know (another! ) reset is needed, and if he did get the job, i'd certainly give him time to do that.
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23 Apr 2024 14:12:05
I firmly believe whoever comes in is going to need to dismantle this dressing room. It might as well be Ten Hag, he's got until 2025 on his current deal. Let him work under the new structure for a year with the remit to break up the team and allow the people above him to buy the players to fit the system that the club decide to put in place. If it doesn't work out we know for sure its the manager, the new manger starts at the end of the season 24/ 25 that's picked by the club football hierarchy with the dressing room cleared of the problematic players. That gives the new exec team 3 windows should we decided to not renew Ten Hag.
If we change managers now, that manager is going to need time to remove a lot of players and rebuild. Rangnick hit the nail on the head when he said the club needs open heart surgery.
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{Ed002's Note - Coaches expect an input to the recruitment process.}
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23 Apr 2024 15:53:14
Zidane will be the next manager.
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23 Apr 2024 15:55:24
We all said Ten Hag should be given time to sort out the mess, turns out that patience only lasted 18 months and now everyone is saying reset.
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23 Apr 2024 16:07:08
Grim, I was referring to the club as a whole, not ETH. Personally, I agree with Rewz, and think he should get another season under the new structure.
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23 Apr 2024 19:20:54
Sad isn't it Grim. Ineos will have their plans. I would like the people we are bringing in to make these big decisions. Quick decisions that are wrong can cause more damage.
Ole was a quick decision. Rashford contract renewal? I'm sure there are more. Recruit best in class football people and let them go to work.
Then they are on a trial period to deliver success.
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24 Apr 2024 07:38:12
Sorry Nou, comment was just general not aimed at anyone.
Are there questions over EtH, definitely, whether it be in game management, relationship with the players and if he is the right person for United.
In his defence he has dealt with a lot in his first few years, maybe some of his own making, I don't know. Injuries this year, especially amongst the back four explains some of shocking defending and with one fit striker and a misfiring winger you can see why we don't score many goals.
Having said that, as many people have pointed out we don't play as a team, just a bunch of individuals who have moments of brilliance. Not being able to build this group of players into a team is a huge concern.
The crumb of comfort that I held after the Coventry game is that when the cameras panned to the stands, instead of seeing a Glazer looking perplexed, we saw SJR. He may not have been many of our first choices because of the partial ownership, but he is seems to be running the show now, making positive decisions, and is sorting the mess that has enveloped this club.
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24 Apr 2024 08:06:11
Thanks ED002,
Any manager interested in becoming the next Utd manager needs to understand the enormity of the task in hand.
It certainly won't be for the weak minded.
In regards to Tuchel haven't players found it hard working under him, which hasn't made his job easy?
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21 Apr 2024 13:50:05
Talk in papers this morning that eth might resign if not offered a new contract before the season start next year.
I think that would be for the best. Hoping there is some truth in this.
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21 Apr 2024 16:45:06
I don’t know how the newspaper can know what he’s thinking. And I very much doubt he’s the type of man to play games against the club via contacts in the media. So most likely rubbish.
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21 Apr 2024 18:49:27
Not really sure he’s in any position to negotiate his future.
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21 Apr 2024 21:10:09
Wazza it came from Simon Mullock at the daily mail. He often gets briefed by SEG who are ten hag’s agents.
Either way- Ed told us a long time ago he may be offered the change to resign with a severance. So I’m not shocked to see such a report.
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21 Apr 2024 22:13:50
I think it's very much in the cards caolan.
Did you not post Barcelona bayern and ajax were considering eth wazza?
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22 Apr 2024 00:30:49
Ken no idea I don’t keep a log, but weren’t they all rumoured to be interested in ETH at some point?
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22 Apr 2024 02:25:37
After yesterday’s debacle, I’ma go out on a limb and say that ENEOS won’t be offering him a new contract. Tbf though, I don’t think he’ll be all that bothered. There are plenty of circuses around these days, so it’s not like he’s going to be short of options after he leaves.
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22 Apr 2024 10:34:18
He could do tik tok videos on how to look like a garden gnome and how to get an epl team playing like garden gnomes.
He could be a garden gnome influencer.
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22 Apr 2024 17:48:19
He shouldn't even be on the shortlist to replace Fred the Red. Dead man walking.
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22 Apr 2024 18:00:24
No managers resign nowadays they just await their pay offs and you can’t really blame them. But the decision already made months ago that he is gone, but this is just paving the way to hold his head up.
But like I said, no epl clubs will be fighting to get him, so that says all you need to know about ETH.
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19 Apr 2024 18:44:10
Wilcox appointed technical director with immediate effect.
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19 Apr 2024 19:36:54
It's very good news, thought it was close when they let Murtough go.
Need Ashworth sorted as soon as, then get on with proper planning for the future.
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19 Apr 2024 19:38:19
Good news. Big job and big opportunity for him.
Ashworth is proving to be more difficult than anticipated but hopefully we can get him in for this summer too.
It's doubtful as it's a bit of a stalemate situation by all accounts.
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19 Apr 2024 19:41:16
Another step in the right direction.
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19 Apr 2024 21:41:19
Ashworth will get done too once newcastle settle on his replacement. great news finally one done and one to go.
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19 Apr 2024 22:54:24
Ineos have set their stall on Ashworth so I'm sure it will be done, but it would amaze me if he's in place ahead of the summer. He was involved in a lot of their planning and gardening leave is designed to protect companies from people moving to rivals with sensitive information of this sort. Beyond the summer I think that argument drops off.
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20 Apr 2024 07:14:32
I’m sure he’s sat at home resting Don, providing no feedback or input at all to Utd’s plans….
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20 Apr 2024 07:37:53
Spot on Eric. Pretty sure Ashworth will have already been chipping in and planning in the background. What else is he going to do, play Minecraft all summer?
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20 Apr 2024 08:27:16
He could be designing the new Old Trafford on Minecraft.
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19 Apr 2024 19:52:36
Could someone explain what this role involves in layman’s terms please?
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{Ed002's Note - In all probability he will look after the scouting and transfers.}
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20 Apr 2024 14:45:30
You might be right Eric but that sort of thing could land him personally in a lot of legal trouble if proven. As he's not an MUFC employee he'd be very exposed, so I think that beyond giving his blessing to the signing of Wilcox and getting to know the structure of the club etc, I think it's fairly unlikely he's as involved as you imagine.
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20 Apr 2024 18:10:28
… and Real Madrid never spoke to Mbappe over the years, ever.
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20 Apr 2024 23:07:15
Yep Spenno.
When I moved from one F1 team to another I was forced to sign a non disclosure agreement for IP.
But it wasn’t worth the paper it was written on. Was I suddenly going to forget how to design the electronic systems?
Same with Ashworth. They will call him and he will “suggest” options. As long as he doesn’t do the deal, then all good.
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18 Apr 2024 09:15:29
Won't be 5 teams from Premier League in the Champions League now, think it will go the German league.
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18 Apr 2024 10:46:03
Won’t affect us anyways I wouldn’t imagine. Bad news for spurs.
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18 Apr 2024 11:22:50
Irrelevant to us. We’re not at the required standard yet to compete in that competition.
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18 Apr 2024 17:49:58
Couldn’t give 2 hoots
Million miles off competing at the highest level.
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18 Apr 2024 18:08:32
I would be ok with a stint in the UEFA Conference and try to win it as a new European trophy.
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18 Apr 2024 18:35:53
I would prefer us not to be in Europe at all next year if it means being in the conference trophy competition. What with the Euros and and new players / manager? coming in or leaving I would prefer midweek for getting proper coaching sessions and time to rest if players are injured.
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19 Apr 2024 09:35:29
Salford7,
I agree with you. Furthermore it would enable the club to cut down the squad as there wouldn't be the need to such a large playing squad either.
Additionally we might have better luck with injuries aswell.
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19 Apr 2024 19:29:03
I’d be ok being in it, a trophy is a trophy. Need more of that mentality within the squad. Could still use it to blood younger players and expose players like Mainoo to European football.
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17 Apr 2024 10:59:32
Rumours had a bust up with Antony too, soon he won’t even be able to field a team of 11 that even speak to him…….
Amount of nails in that coffin no one will be able to even lift it!
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17 Apr 2024 11:56:14
These players need to grow up and start performing. They have become far too used to downing tools.
Hopefully all this will change under INEOS come the summer.
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17 Apr 2024 12:29:08
Such an inspiring leader, great man manager is Ten Hag, reminds me of the Klopp and Redknapp, players just love playing for him.
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17 Apr 2024 19:13:11
Utd Road if I could unlike your comment I would. ETH may not be your ideal but reports on him from lots of players is very positive. Do you want his relationship with the players to be all roses and sunshine when they clearly aren't acting like professionals. Fwiw SAF fell out with players too. The primary issue is the players. I don't think ETH can be judged either positively or negatively at all at this point.
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17 Apr 2024 21:27:29
So if he can’t be judged positively or negatively he must be bang average😂.
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17 Apr 2024 21:37:00
Fans on here change their mind more often then they change their saggy, stained Y-fronts.
Pretty sure under Ole very few fans were giving him any credit for keeping the players happy, or being easy to get along with.
In fact I'm pretty sure most wanted a manager who would "put a rocket up the players behind", be demanding and not want to be the players friend. A disciplinarian who'd set high standards, and punish players for being late, or disrespectful.
We get that in EtH, and suddenly "he's not easy to get along with", "players don't like him", etc.
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17 Apr 2024 21:46:40
If you’re post hand the big thumbs up Ed’s have I’d like it twice 👍
Thank you for finally positively comparing EtH and SAF.
I really didn’t have the courage to liken Eric’s man management to our best ever manager. Maybe EtH read his book on leadership!
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17 Apr 2024 21:53:07
Spot on Shappy. Now we need someone to come in and give Rashford a cuddle.
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17 Apr 2024 22:34:29
I’m pretty sure changing your mind after receiving more information and evidence is just as healthy as regular changing of underwear. Being too proud to change your underwear isn’t an admirable quality or hygienic.
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17 Apr 2024 22:43:44
Utd Road of course it is. But you're on for changing your underwear because you heard a rumour somewhere that you'd forgotten to change it. That has nothing to do with hygiene. My point is that managers and players will always have ups and downs and, given the results, we should expect there to be plenty of unhappy players. You've decided to base a comparison of ETH against renowned man managers. Anyway from your comments you're probably around 12 so it's not much point arguing with you.
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17 Apr 2024 23:50:41
Don, it would appear the “argument” is lost when you resort to insults.
As you say managers have their ups and downs (no more underwear metaphors) but hopefully an FA cup and an LvG exit would be a wonderful end to the season.
Btw I’m not 12 however I still find it very uncomfortable that you’re thinking about me changing my underwear, 12 or not.
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18 Apr 2024 07:45:53
DonRed and Shappy, good posts. Insults? A bit snowflakey methinks. 😂😂.
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18 Apr 2024 11:49:51
I'm not ETH's biggest fan, but I find it hard to criticise him for taking a hard line with some players over their behaviour.
If you want to criticise him, do it for his tactics, and failure to get the team playing to his vision.
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18 Apr 2024 14:55:46
Excuse me @Shappy, but have we really got that?
Any true disciplinarian would have dropped Rashford weeks ago. He would not have tolerated the night clubbing in Ireland. He wouldn't have let Antony waste a position in the team week after week. He would have sorted out the dressing room leaks. He would crack down on social media likes and huffs. He would sort out the rancid relationship with certain social media hacks and all told, he would have created a far different culture to the one we have now. A professional, team focused, results orientated culture.
I see things happening around the team that rarely seem to happen anywhere else. So no, those of us that wanted more discipline are still waiting. More than discipline, I want a coach that earns the respect of the players in such a manner that discipline as a verb, rather than an adjective, isn rarely necessary. A manager who walks in and respect just happens. Example. Ancelotti. The man oozes class and the right to be respected. I don't see that in ETH. In fact I haven't seen that since Sir Alex.
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18 Apr 2024 15:31:25
You can have strong disciplined principles and beliefs without keep putting people on the naughty step and stopping speaking to them you know! That’s just childish and small club mentality behaviour, there are dozens of managers who are very disciplined in there approach that’s respected by players, it when you get no respect for the person who is trying to install discipline the problems start!
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18 Apr 2024 15:37:35
Great Post BRD.
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20 Apr 2024 00:56:33
He made Antony a priority and we paid 86 million pounds for him that in itself is a sackable offence. 86 fu*King million.
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