12 Sep 2020 18:02:02
Interestingly now talk of Thiago, for me a great player, still only 29, and quoted around 30 mill. Get him in for that price and sell off Pogba (28yrs now) for 60 -70 mill and personally l think we are a better team. Thiago, VDB and Bruno would be a great 3 in the middle with Rash, Martial and maybe Sancho or Greenwood. Put the Pogba money towards a CB, just saying.

1.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 18:19:23
Whos paying 60/ 70 mil for pogba in this market?

Also thiago vdb and bruno would still concern me defensively as much as pogba, vdb and bruno does. Would have to be 2 out off the 3 starting most weeks which isn't a problem as we need squad depth in midfield.

2.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 18:45:34
This is what makes me laugh about the current situation surrounding Pogba.

Pogba and Thiago are a similar age, both world cup winners, both have a year left on their contracts, both considered world class and one of the best midfielders in the world.

Bayern being realistic value Thiago at around 30m in the current climate with a year left on his deal. Yet most United fans still value Pogba at around the 60m mark, while the club value him in excess of 100m.

It's laughable. If Thiago is available for 30m, then the most we can expect for Pogba is 40m seeing as he is 18 months younger. However, his wages are far greater than Thiago's which will make it harder for other clubs to match them reducing the number of options he has.

He has been a great player for us, but now is the time to sell him for whatever we can, 30-40m. Thank him for his efforts, keep things friendly and reinvest in another player.

3.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 19:34:47
Pogba has 1+1 year contract. Is 18 months younger and theoritically less injury prone.
He was great? I am shocked.

4.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 19:38:45
"he has been a great player for us"? Go home your drunk😂😂😂.

5.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 19:39:48
Pogba is 27 years old not 28 redcon so he is 2 years younger than Thiago.

I think selling Pogba might be the best decision for the club in the long term.

{Ed047's Note - that and Thiago is twice the player

6.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 20:12:11
Twice the player ha the agenda against our own continues. Better player or not surely Shappy you understand when you buy a Pogba he is the face of the club he brings more media attention and sponsorship then any other player we have wether you like it or not its what makes Pogba more expensive then a Thiago or most players. Sponsors do not line up to get a Thiago on board as an example.

7.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 20:18:58
pogba runs like he's 40.

8.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 20:29:04
mnk he has an agenda against our club because he speaks the truth? Pogba hasn't even give his all in 3 match in a row. He only brought problems at our club and he is not half as good as he (you) think he is. Football is not only a good pass a good asist and a good highlight here and there. Tiago is twice the player Pogba is.

{Ed047's Note - agenda? Love it🤦‍♂️🤣

9.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 20:34:54
Pogba has been one of our best outfield players since he signed.

A player is worth what someone will pay for them. No one will offer us more than 40m so he isn't worth more than that.

Fact is next summer he will be worth nothing to us as his contact will be up.

10.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 20:49:05
mk we will not win many games with sponsors.

11.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:18:50
The disrespect on his name is amazing the guy literally has carried the team many a time but you will always choose to overlook it.

{Ed047's Note - it’s not disrespectful to be honest about a player and can you tell me what games he’s carried you in.

Most of the time he looks like a passenger and if Bruno hasn’t shown you what a real quality midfielder should be doing week in week out then you really are missing something.

Thiago makes a difference every week, every game, he doesn’t have a highlight reel and he doesn’t walk around in games.

Ask Shappy how good he is, he wanted him here before he went to Bayern Munich.

12.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:25:29
The agenda is simple herrera he's the one player people are ready to throw under the bus before all others no matter how bad the other players are. He's the one player despite what he does on the pitch wether he plays or not people want to find fault with him and blame him.

People can hate all they want but with in the next few weeks he will sign a new contract and he isn't going anywhere. The club simply refuse to let him go but you will find that's Pogbas fault as well. He's staying get behind him.

13.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:35:04
Shappy you normally speak a lot of sense, but pogba has been has been one of your best outfield players since he signed, give your head a wobble.

What percentage of matches has he played since he signed has he even hit 50%.

14.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:48:31
mnk397, I don't think there is an agenda against Pogba. I think people expect more of him than other players. He is one of the most naturally talented players in the world, he has fantastic technique, pace and power along with phenomenal stamina and natural fitness. He is a gifted player. He is also our record signing, and one of our highest paid players. He has won titles and was a key player for France as they won the world cup last time out.

As such people expect more of him than Phil Jones. To be honest if Phil didn't pull a silly face and injure himself during 90 minutes I'd be impressed.

Pogba has scored a lot of goals from midfield, he has assisted a lot as well. He has often been our best player on the pitch, even if he wasn't on the ball for the entire 90 minutes. Statistically he has surpassed pretty much every player on the pitch for us over the past 4 years.

If he leaves then fine, I'll wish him well. If not then he'll likely leave next summer for free, or at most the summer after that if the club are stupid enough. His wish is to leave, the club should allow him to go and keep some dignity.

The reality is that no one will offer more than 40m cash, or maybe a little less cash and a player they don't want and we don't need.

That is what he is worth. Sell him and move on. Many players better than Pogba have left before, and many greater than him will play for us in the future.

15.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:54:24
Ofcourse, Pogba has been one of United's better performers.

Before Bruno, he was the main player who create chances and passes the ball forwards.

People judge him based on his price tag.

16.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:57:20
Long time reader and 1st time poster. I for one can't get my head around some fans obsession with Pogba! I certainly can't remember a game where he has carried us. There is no doubting he has ability but for me he doesn't have the hunger! Thiago for me would be a dream signing and has that ability to dictate a game we haven't had since Scholesy! Really enjoy this site, been a reader for over 5 years! Cheers to all the info the Eds provide! Here's hoping it'll be 21 in 21 for us 😂😂.

17.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:58:00
Not really sure how a post about Thiago has turned into a Pogba one.

Fact is Pogba is a passenger, he has 10 min flashes of brilliance and 80 mins he just frustrates out of you for a midfielder the main attribute you should have is work rate imo and Pogba doesn’t seem to have any.

Just to be clear I’m not a Pogba hater, I support every united player but the fact is the above is true whether you want to believe it or not.

Onto Thiago I’d love him in the United team he’s a gem of a player and despite what a majority say he’s good defensively too.

18.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 21:39:44
Nice one Ed put pogba in the bayern team and you will soon change your tune. Setting lewandowski up instead of no movement zlatan or no touch lukaku up week in week out against them defences thing pogba would end up with 50 assists a season. Pogba dominating the world Cup semi and final shows you exactly what he can do on the biggest stage possible.

{Ed047's Note - I guess he must have been doing that at Juventus then with all the quality around him there...oh no he wasn’t was he.

But don’t let the truth get in the way of your desire to make Pogba into a players he’s not! 🤦‍♂️

19.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 22:20:02
You pretend that you don't understand to prove your point.
Yes i throw him under the bus. Ofcourse not because he has some off days, everyone has. I do it because he is the one wanting top dollars without being a world class player and he is the one that more often than not is a problem and not trying enough.
All players can have some bad games, but the very least a top paid-player has to do is to give his all and try really hard. Bruno has showed us what means to be a really top player, yet some people don't understand the difference.
Some are quick to protect him because we disrespect his name. He disrespect my team but you have no problem with this. Really, is he bigger than the club?

20.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 22:27:00
What are you on about Ed he was brilliant at juventus its why we bought him in the first place. Don't get it twisted the Italian league was much tougher than the German one.

Discountdave these are not facts just your opinion so you can make stuff up and call them facts doesn't make them true.

For me get a midfield of pogba bruno AND thiago with vdb and matic as back ups we would control most games and if we get sancho in with them with our other forwards that could be something special.

{Ed047's Note - of course he was, making 50 assists a season with all that talent around him.

Jesus it’s painful! 🤦‍♂️

21.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 22:40:59
Shappy Ollie Watkins went to villa for £33 million. Pogba only worth 40? You must be fishing. If he signs a new contract is he worth 100 million again?

22.) 12 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 22:53:35
Not trying enough are you for real he's been our best player for years because you don't see him as some passion merchant whose running around like a headless chicken he's not trying enough for you. He gets top dollar fir more than just football that might sting a lot if people but it is what it is.

Disrespects the club ok so ronaldo says he's a slave at the club and its all good Rooney before the Manchester Derby comes out and asks to leave BEFORE a game and its all good ddg was desperate to leave if it was not for not a fax machine but its all good but because pogba thinks the club isn't showing enough ambition and were holding him here let me repeat that the club have held him here not the other way around he's the one whose been disrespecting the club.

You say he's causing problems yet the manager and players have repeatedly said hea been a perfect professional ofcourse that doesn't suit the media narrative so its ignored completely.

Maguire is doing his thing in Greece. Greenwood is doing his thing in Iceland. Giggs and all his antics over the years yet its pogba whose the one whose disrespecting the club!

23.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 00:06:41
Mnk i said the same with Rooney, about Ronaldo too. But hey, when we didn't allow Ronaldo leave he stayed and gave his 101%. Greenwood made a big mistake that i am not happy with him but yet he didn't try to leave the club for over two years like Pogba does and he gives his all when he plays. Some comparisons are really emparassing.
I don't have a problem with Pogba, i don't have a problem with any player. I believe too that he is a nice guy, i only criticize what i see on the pitch and the fact that while he clearly believe that he is a world class player, a luxury player that he mustnt put much defencive effort and wants to leave, yet he didn't bring a decent bid to his team. A world class player, a world cup winner at his peak but none wants to give a decent fee for him. It is strange, isn't it?

24.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 01:12:01
Makes me laugh when shappy decides what he thinks a player is worth and we all have to take it as fact. The truth is Thiago may go for £30 million because Bayern value him at that. I'd rather pogba stay for 2 more years and leave for free than get £40 million in todays market. What does that buy you these days anyway? Maybe that's why the club value him more.

{Ed0666's Note - I bet you Masons happy crack Thiago don’t go for £30 mill.

25.) 13 Sep 2020
12 Sep 2020 23:36:52
ed 47 no good knocking when there's nobody there.

{Ed047's Note - my thoughts exactly daz

26.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 08:36:23
People saying PP isn’t a good player are hilarious. “Didn’t pull up trees at Juventus” - he was outstanding for them. Just about their best player in a team that won everything each year.

Since he’s been here, how many ‘top quality’ players has he played alongside? Zero? Maybe one? Fact is, he’s been playing with our worst midfield and strike force in 20 years. Yes he can flatter to deceive sometimes, but it must’ve been frustrating playing with the likes of Andreas and crew over the years. It’s no coincidence that he still looks unplayable when playing for France alongside Kante et al.

27.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 09:17:38
Pogba is bang average as far as I'm concerned, no desire, no real commitment and we have only become better since Bruno, a real quality player signed, Pogba is a passenger in a team he has no right to be in tbh, Thiago is another far superior player, if Pogba was so good why wasn't he driving us forward like Bruno did instantly, why with France and Juve did the better players around Pogba carry him, he's a nice lad I'm sure and has talent but has no idea how to consistently influence a game, sooner he's off the better.

28.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 09:50:53
This thread is some laugh! It's pretty simple really. Since pogba has arrived in the team he has slow motion jogged through games, pulling skill moves deep in his own half, losing possession in dangerous areas, and not provided any defensive cover. He hasn't made the players around him any better whatsoever. If only he'd had as many decent games as he's had haircuts? Since Bruno has arrived he has been infectious. His work rate has set the tone, he plays with a smile on his face, the whole team seems to click into a higher gear when he's on the pitch, and then there's the quality in the final third. He makes the players around him better. That's how you can tell a top player.

29.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 10:17:29
Up until last season (which Pogba was out injured for 90% of it) no player had scored more goals or created more assists than Pogba in the three years since he signed.

While I'll accept that he often gives the impression of not trying, and many people myself included feel he could be doing better. The fact remains he has carried the team in terms of goal creation for three years. You don't do that if you are a poor player.

You don't start for the ridiculously over packed and supremely talented French national side if you are a crap player. You could name 10 French players who won't make the squad for an international tournament who would be first choice for 99% of other countries.

Yes his silly haircuts and his jet set life make him an easy target, just as it did for Beckham. Yet the same thing is often said about Pogba as was about Beckham from those who work closely with them. They are perfect professionals, eat right, train well, work hard and avoid drink, drugs and women.

If/ when Pogba leaves we will lose one of our best players. No doubt. If he wants to leave then the club shouldn't stop him or get in his way. The idea that he will be easy to replace is a falacy. Fred and McTominay work exceptionally hard, but neither are capable of what Pogba can do.

As for what he is worth? I'm not picking out figures here. Quite simply he is only worth what someone will pay for it. I could put my house on the market for £1m, but if no one will pay more than 500k for it then guess how much it is worth.

There are lots of factors with what a player is worth, their impact on the field, their wages, their resale value, their growth potential and their marketability are just some of the factors.

Fact is no one is prepared to pay 100m for Pogba, no one is prepared to pay 80m, no one is prepared to pay 60m, we might find one maybe two clubs that will pay 40m.

We sell him this summer or he leaves for free. Regardless of any extension option we have. So he is worth nothing or the maximum we can get for him this summer. Which would be around the 40m mark.

30.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 11:36:22
I will be very happy when Pogba leaves Utd and a proper footballer plays instead of him.

Pogba is just the idea of a good footballer. He is very ineffective and is often a liability.

31.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 11:54:17
Things get blown somewhat out of proportion here with a few voices seemingly seen as gospel. if Pogba starts Utd's games this month and has a good impact on the side, he is suddenly indispensible and worth double the fee thrown around above. I think/ hope/ believe (most likely fantasise) that he will look a little more like his old self and who knows, sign a new contract! Positivity!

32.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 12:26:43
I hope you don't mind me putting the toys back in. Look at the mess of that floor 😂.

33.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 14:40:27
Easy to point out how many goals and assists PP has racked up, but what about the goals we conceded because he didn't bother tracking a run, or because he tried to show off and gave the ball away in our own half?

Ander Herrera was the best midfielder we've had in recent years prior to Bruno's arrival. Pogba is a passenger, coasting his way to millions while he waits for a move to a team he actually wants to play for.

And for the record, I was among his biggest fans before he came back to us, and I was overjoyed when he signed.

34.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 14:42:10
Andreas - championship level at best.
Fred - awful first season, better this, but not creative.
McTom - Darren Fletcher mk.2 (not necessarily a bad thing but still) .
Lingard - Mo Farah can run and his goals/ assists record would’ve been similar.
Mata - nice with the ball at his feet but struggles to get hold of it due to pace, also requires 6 touches constantly.

I’m intrigued. To all of the PP haters, who out of the above would you rather have started games ahead of him over the past two seasons?

Yes, he flatters to deceive, but we’ve certainly had no alternatives (different now, granted) and he’s been surrounded by sh! te during most of his time back here.

35.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 16:04:57
Like playing chess with a pigeon 😂.

36.) 13 Sep 2020
13 Sep 2020 16:38:57
The excuse for Pogba is that always surrounded by sh. Never his fault. 4 years you are debating which players must Pogba have next to him to take most of him. Pogba at 10, starting from depper making late runs, with Herrera and Matic making the dirty work, then no Matic is too slow and old to run for two. Then we must have someone like Verrati or Tiago to pass him the ball. Then the fault is we have no runners in our team to make the most of him etc.
Thats right in some extend, but put me in a team with Pirlo Vidal Marchisio or in a team with Cante Matuindi and Griezman-Empampe at front, having only to provide some tricks and passes, and i would seem good myself.
The truth is Pogba must have world class players around him to take care of him, because he is not world class. At Juve and France that's exactly what he had, world class players who took care of him.
Bruno is what fans thought Pogba is, and his game is much more than goals and asists, he tries hard and tries to make his mates and the team better. In the other hand Pogba wants better mates and better team to take care of him, huge difference.