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21 Oct 2023 16:10:08
RIP SIR Bobby world class is thrown around far too much but you truly was probably Englands greatest ever player and one of the greatest ever.
YNWA
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1.) 21 Oct 2023 18:30:01
Thanks Grino, he truely is a legend of the club and of the country. I never saw him live, but to listen to the old timers almost felt I did. Never heard a bad word spoken about the guy, what he must have gone through in and after Munich I just can't imagine. Football lost a great one today.
2.) 21 Oct 2023 21:50:08
A lot of fans and players would do well to read about Sir Bobby to fully understand what he achieved, especially after Munich.
He fully epitomises what United are all about and his love for the the game, the club and its fans is exactly what is missing in this once great team.
28 Aug 2021 07:32:49
Liverpool fan here am glad Ronaldo returned to would not have been right at city.
I think he has more longevity than Messi not the same Ronaldo that left you lot all them years ago but I think he will score 20+ league goals for you and he will be a great role model for your younger players as I don't think there are many better pro's to ever play the game.
1.) 28 Aug 2021 07:50:10
grino75, true that.
Respect your acknowledgement as a rival.
2.) 28 Aug 2021 10:46:59
Thanks, Grino, some genuine acknowledgement right there.
3.) 28 Aug 2021 11:03:30
Cheers Grino.
27 May 2021 12:36:09
Liverpool fan here in peace Absolutely disgusting racial abuse that Marcus RashFord got last night the guy has proven himself to be great Man. There is no need for racism in any form all fans of every club need to come together to stop this.
1.) 27 May 2021 12:55:13
Agreed grino. I don't care if its rashford or any other player it has to stop. The issue is if you have 3 billion people on social media you will get idiots. I've played football in England in Irish. I was called a paddy prick or an Irish this that or the other. Water of a ducks back to me at the time it was no different 30 years ago its just now there is a larger platform for idiots to sound off.
2.) 27 May 2021 15:28:57
There's a huge difference between making out people are inferior human beings because of their skin colour, and criticising you because of the country you happened to be born in.
3.) 27 May 2021 15:56:10
I don't believe there is noucamp, and according to the rules and and definitions race creed religion and nationality abuse all come under the one umbrella. Some would think there is no difference but that's where one of the problems is.
So is calling someone from Pakistan an insulting name that we are all aware of worse than calling me a paddy?
If in your job your referred to someone like that I've no doubt it would be considered unprofessional and against the code and abusive. Its no different for footballers actually or fans.
If you think its acceptable I'd say that's a poor show.
4.) 27 May 2021 16:37:05
Nice assumptions there. When I played football at Uni, I was called a Paddy this and Paddy that. No issues. I used English tw*t on many occasions too. Banter at best, casual xenophobia at worst. If you really can't see the difference between that, and someone being made to feel sub-human because of their colour, something inate, with thousands of years of people treating you like that because of your colour, treating you literally as their slaves, worse than animals, all because of something as personal as the colour of your skin, then I think that says plenty about you. It's very easy for a white lad to make such a trite comparison, though.
5.) 27 May 2021 16:41:44
Here's a simple way of looking at it. There's a black, Irish lad. Do you think he'd be more offended at being called an Irish ba****d, or a black ba****d?
6.) 27 May 2021 16:52:39
Which assumptions? I'm not at all surpassed you would consider that sort of thing acceptable.
7.) 27 May 2021 17:00:09
Great argument as always ðŸ‘.
8.) 27 May 2021 17:12:18
No point debating with someone who feels casual xenophobia is acceptable.
9.) 27 May 2021 17:41:56
Ask some of our fellow posters on here from further afield what they find more offensive - being called a Kenyan/ Sierra Leone/ Indian ba****d, or a black ba****d, an ape, a monkey? You keep deflecting though, and not answering any questions, and focus on accusing me of something I didn't say and bringing my job into it. Classic Ken.
10.) 27 May 2021 18:12:38
Stephen. Its not a case of which is more offensive. Both are socially and legally unacceptable.
If he is gay is it OK to call him a gay b###### your argument is pathetic is that more offencive or less or ok in your book. The fact that you find any of the above acceptable is not surprising.
The reason I mention your job in particular is that you are meant to be upholding law as a police officer not condoning casual breaks. My point was also saying its unacceptable in any work place including footballers. I find it incredulous that you think otherwise. If someone is assaulted physically I'm sure they would prefer to be kicked in the legs as opposed to the head but neither are acceptable. Neither form of verbal abuse racial or xenophobic are acceptable either. If you think it ok its your own business. Neither are acceptable its not nor it shouldn't be a choice.
Its more offensive to rape a person than to casually sexually assault them but as per above neither are acceptable.
You might not get offended by it I might not but that does not make it acceptable and thankfully its not.
11.) 27 May 2021 18:15:21
what am I accusing you of that you didn't say?
You use or have used what you describe as casual xenophobic comments. So I'm assuming you think its OK to do so.
12.) 27 May 2021 18:50:23
Are they all not just as bad? A racist slur is a racist slur. I put them all in the same bracket, none should be used. All disgusting.
13.) 27 May 2021 19:39:00
Exactly Angel. I feel that's what all right minded people will feel. There is and should be no distinction. It sadly become part of everyday life for people in some areas being treated differently even by officialdom in some cases where you are judged by your heritage and
Background. By your color nationality or religion or sexuality. None of it is acceptable in any way. No judge would accept it was only banter. Its like a bloke saying I was only speeding because I was late home for dinner your honour 🤣.
14.) 27 May 2021 19:45:41
Kenith, the OP was an attempt to try and show disgust at the racist abuse Rashford was getting. You sought to minimise its effect by trying to conflate it with your horrendous trauma at being called an Irish whatever.
It's people like you with blasé attitudes about its effects, that give succour to those who continue to call black people monkeys. Not once did you answer my question on what would be deemed more offensive, because deep down even you aren't that stupid to think calling a black person a monkey is on a par with calling someone an Irish so and so.
You're just ranting now, trying to deflect from the core issue. It's all bollocks. Throw enough nonsense and insults around, and hope people get distracted from the absolute inanity of your point. Maybe have a wee lie down.
15.) 27 May 2021 19:49:24
Angel, if they're all just as bad, answer my question on what a black Irish guy would be more offended by. We only have a nationality because of a bit of land that stops our feet from getting wet.
16.) 27 May 2021 19:58:10
Would he be offended by both noucamp? Is either acceptable?
17.) 27 May 2021 20:11:10
Not once did I say or do i feel any of it acceptable. I didn't compare i said its always happened in many guises but that its more prominant and views like yours reach more people now because of the forums that exist so its now easier for people to aim their vile and disgusting slurs at people. You are on your high horse as usual. I don't need a lie down nor am I ranting.
You are distinguishing between to offences and excusing one. Both are abhorrent.
18.) 27 May 2021 20:13:19
Horrendous trauma? I think I said it was Easter of a ducks back. You are being pathetic. Site has been great in your absence since your last tirade of personal abuse aimed at me. But I'm OK with that. Big boy here not one of your bully boy victims.
19.) 27 May 2021 20:29:46
I took a break because life's too short to spend it listening to grown men acting like hysterical old women. I wish I had the time to comment on every post like some. I kept reading, though from time to time.
I saw you were still going round like the site Kommandant, throwing your weight around, especially against those who you know won't argue back against you.
Maybe you think it's been better because nearly the only ones left on here agree with your opinions. Set that investigation up into the multiple likes, yet? 😂 Bully boy. But it's just my opinion.
20.) 27 May 2021 21:19:08
Not one poster has not argued their point with me. I prefer when people do. That's what makes the site interesting for me.
Please go back and read the response to the op.
You will see i agree with the op. I go on to say that I received another type of xenophibic abuse. As you agree you did yourself back in the day. But now billions of people have a direct line to footballers so within those billions you will get people with extreme views. They now have a platform to make their abusive comments where 30 years ago people held the same views but could only deliver them to those in earshot. I don't believe its got worse I believe its just got louder and idiots can poison the whole world with their comments not just those in earshot.
You on the other hand appear to think casual xenophobic comments are OK and can be passed over as banter. I'm very pleased to say that most of the world has moved on from those views.
I, as you did grew up in the era of comedians like Jim Davidson and the likes. We're they racists or xenophobic? I don't think so but what they were saying and parts of their acts would be deemed inappropriate now and rightly so its offencive and to be fair always was to many and its widely curtailed now. So its not banter. Its not casual xenophobia. Its unacceptable and won't and shouldn't be tolerated.
Causing offence to someone in an abusive manner by referencing their race creed nationality or sexual preference are all outlawed and rightly so. Of course there will be a hierarchy of offences like with all crimes but its personal and subjective. You tell the war veterans and the generation that fought for our freedom that nationality is only what keeps your feet dry and I'm sure you will get a different response than the view you hold.
You need to get into this century the world has moved on.
I actually don't believe you find xenaphobia acceptable at all you made a stupid comment probably best to either retract it or explain why you think its OK. 30 years ago it was looked upon differently ill grant you that you only need to look at TV clips but to say its worse to call one name over another is wrong imo both are totally unacceptable.
I'm quite old school with many of my views and we do live in a snowflake society where you often can cause offence unwittingly however it fairly universally accepted that any offencive remarks referring race creed colour nationality sexuality and religious beliefs are totally unacceptable.
21.) 28 May 2021 11:26:35
Where did I say casual xenophobic comments are ok? Point that quote out to me, and I'll apologise. I'll be waiting a while though. Race and sexuality are something you're born with. It's part of your being. Nationality is just an accident of birth. You can even change it if you want, have two even. That is why, though neither are acceptable, racist or homophobic abuse is so much more. Its personal. You're attacking who that person is, not just where they happened to be born. You're trying to put them on an equal footing, which just minimises the hurt that racist abuse causes. That was the point if your original post. Sure, it's all the same. Water off a ducks back. And the fact you can't differentiate between the two, speaks volumes about how you view the very real hurt and offence that racist abuse causes. And unfortunately it's that wishy-washy attitude that gives the racists encouragement and empowerment to spout their bile.
22.) 28 May 2021 12:34:58
From your op in this thread
'No issues. I used English tw*t on many occasions too. Banter at best, casual xenophobia at worst'
So you partake (or used to) in the practice of what you describe as casual xenophobia that you try to excuse as banter.
You are obviously not a nice man. Possibly still xenaphbic or worse but who's to know. God help anybody that runs into you in a professional
Capacity I'd suggest there are courses you can go to with a view to educating yourself and broadening your very narrow views on this topic.
Race is genetics you have no choice when your born, same as nationality. Some would Argue too that point about sensuality.
Your very ignorant on this topic and extremely narrow minded. I'm going to disenge now your not the sort of person I want to have any contact with and I think you should be ashamed of yourself but your type never are. Please try not to engage with me directly again and I will try to do the same i'd rather have no association with you and your nasty and out dated views. You stereotype and are not a nice person at all.
23.) 28 May 2021 18:58:02
That must rank as one of the most nonsensical posts I've ever seen you put on here, and there's been a fair few.
You can deflect as much as you like, but you're equating racist abuse with someone being called an Irish or English whatever. Making light of it by doing so.
You come across as a bit of a hick redneck in your views, bordering on soft racist. Not nice qualities. Especially thrown in with the passive aggressive tone of the majority of your posts.
30 Oct 2020 16:15:22
RIP Nobby Stiles
great player don't make them like that anymore.
1.) 30 Oct 2020 16:51:32
Sad day, that's two of our 68' team we have lost this year. RIP Nobby.
2.) 31 Oct 2020 09:47:24
R. I. P Nobby. Have his autobiography "After the ball" so much more than a tough tackler hardman. could play a bit too, loved the club and Manchester and was a delight to coach apparently. Love the story about him laying into a couple of players in the tunnel after a European game, fists flying, Sir Matt watched for a few minutes as the opposition had been spitting and throwing punches on the pitch which the ref missed and shouted " Norbert, that's enough, Noooorbert " and Nobby walked back to the dressing room . said that was the skill of Sir Matt let me and a few of the lads throw punches in the tunnel after what we had endured on the pitch, his way of letting the lads retaliate, but wouldn't let you be a thug - when Sir Matt said enough, you walked away.
31 Jan 2022 07:29:37
Salford I can’t believe what you are saying there, it’s like it’s partly her fault for staying if it’s true. There are countless numbers of women and men stuck in abusive relationship and not 1% of it is there fault. Nobody is saying throw him to the wolves till all the facts are out but statements like that should never be said unless you are stuck in a relationship like that nobody knows what it’s like or how hard it is to get out of one.
The problem with these you kids they get the world before they have even kicked a ball in top flight football and are treated like they are something they are not I wonder how more players are doing things like this and nobody is saying anything.
When you get Ronaldo making a statement like the you players don’t listen to players like him says it all about the young players coming through nowadays.