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12 Apr 2019 17:52:25
The media is making a lot of noise with regards to Pogba wanting to leave. I believe most of us would not mind if he does leave, but would be disappointed to see his talents not come to fruition at United.

Imagine if he had the passion of Keane and the intelligence and vision of Scholes to go with his talent, would had been a deadly combination. At 26yrs and with all that talent, he should have stamped his identity as a world class player by now, but it seems he doesn't have the mentality to do it at United at the moment.

If he does leave, where do you expect him to go? Real Madrid seem to want him and so does he, but he better be prepared for it, knowing how the RM fans can be when you are not performing. Probably a return to Juventus could be a safest option as he is well regarded there and had the most success in his career there.

Who do you guys think we should target if Pogba does leave?

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1.) 12 Apr 2019 18:25:47
Someone with energy, desire and passion to play the game. I expect lots of disagrees but I’d say someone like Doucoure of Watford.


2.) 12 Apr 2019 19:28:12
Matt - doucoure is a great shout. I’m a big fan of ndombele from Lyon. Him and Saúl with Fred at the base would be a tasty midfield for me.


3.) 12 Apr 2019 19:46:25
Bruno Fernandes and Saul.


4.) 12 Apr 2019 19:47:37
Pogba hasn’t worked out, let’s move on.

NDombele is impressive and Doucoure is a good watch but the step up will be a big challenge.


5.) 13 Apr 2019 11:58:13
Geoffrey Kondogbia looks like he could be special at a bigger club.


6.) 13 Apr 2019 19:19:08
I’ve said it before. Tielemens at Leicester (on loan from Monaco) would be a good signing. Classy player who seems to have acres of space and time on the ball. Add a Doucoure or Ndombele and we’d have a decent midfield.


7.) 16 Apr 2019 08:23:48
Ndidi from Leicester would be a great signing imo. He looks like he is going to be a great player.


 

 

31 Jan 2014 20:26:51
Just heard a rumour we are making a late bid for Kevin Strootman.

Roma are in dire financial state and need cash but, are looking for more than 20 million. United are looking to get him for somewhere in the region of 18 million.

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1.) You mean you read a story on caught off sh**e?


2.) Just can't believe this story, or one about Herrera again! Nothing happening tonight and just have to accept it :-(


 

 

05 Jan 2014 04:17:47
Exclusive: Manchester United Set To Move For £7m-Rated Wolfsburg Attacker Ivan Perisic and that is according to .

Playing predominantly on the left wing, the 24-year-old can also be used in the middle and in extreme cases on the right hand side too.

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1.) 05 Jan 2014 23:47:47
we aren't that desparate


 

 

 

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19 Apr 2019 09:30:23
Do you guys feel that United were reluctant too long to make a transition from our traditional way of attacking from the wings to a more modern style of high press, possession based and quick free flowing football? Especially towards Sir Alex's final years, when City were adopting to that sort of attacking style.

With football evolving as a whole and with a lot of teams in the PL adopting a more high press, counter attacking style over the years, we have struggled even against teams in the lower half for some time now.

Who or what do you think is responsible for our lack of transitioning to a more modern style of football, when the top most teams are already playing that way?

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1.) 19 Apr 2019 13:37:18
Good question. Well into the tenure of Sir Alex, we started having more trouble in Europe, as the more continental teams would play 3 v 2 in the center of midfield. So the old English style of 4-4-2 with wingers on the flanks was no longer as effective. Queiroz was helpful in helping the team to adapt to the changes in style. But then look at how after Sir Alex retired, we have not only strayed from the club's traditions tactically, but we have had no coherent footballing philosophy at all.

Moyes was too defensively oriented. Rio spoke of it at one point, wondering why so much of training was spent on defending. Moyes had brought his Everton approach to Manchester United. Perhaps he did not have a big enough name to draw prospects like Kroos, Bale, or Fabregas to United.

Then Van Gaal came, who is an excellent manager with a clearly defined philosophy, but was very possession oriented, and fans grew impatient. His period to me is the most debatable of the three, because he was experimental (Rooney in midfield) and he had an eye for players. Tactically I think the team failed in his period for being too static and slow. Perhaps the fluidity would have come had he been given more time. He spread the players out very well, but we did not see enough interchange and movement off the ball.

Then Mourinho comes and we have another change in philosophy. He sets the team out, not to take the initiative, not to create, but to nullify, defend first. That alone put him at odds with our traditions. Add his negativity and it was a relief to see him gone.

But the main point is that without any director of football, any guiding figures from above that guide the club in a clear tactical direction, we have had no progression of developing a team with any continuity. Moyes, defensive, Van Gaal, possession, Mourinho, defensive again. Now Ole, who seems to want to press higher, more like the way you described the best teams nowadays.

Then think about how the players do not fit in, from one manager to the next. How can Smalling excel in a possession based team? How can Blind be very good in a possession based team, but then not get minutes in a Mourinho team?
How can Young excel in a high pressing team? No continuity of a philosophy.


2.) 19 Apr 2019 13:54:40
Good post. For all Oles' talk of playing attacking football, the style hasn't changed. It's basically rebooted mourinho football, the only difference being, we've got more men forward in support of the counter attacks, full backs playing higher etc. If the two games against wolves taught us anything, it's that if a team surrenders possession to us, we're toothless. Nobody can find find the killer pass, there's no invention, nobody actually brave enough on the ball.

Who's responsible? I think it comes down to a lack of vision from the top. No manager as yet, has come in and said 'right, this is how were going to play now'. If you think back to the beginning of klopp, pochettino and guardiolas' first few months in charge, there was a clear and focused new set of ideas being introduced. Ole has experimented with different systems, my only hope is that with the right pre season and some shrewd signings, his vision might become more clear.


3.) 19 Apr 2019 15:19:13
Blame who keeps hiring the managers on why we've drifted from our identity. Some reluctant to admit their out of their depth and yo hand over power.


 

 

04 Apr 2019 15:08:45
Would you guys be worried if Pogba left us? There are no doubts about his talents, but he's far too inconsistent and his contributions in matches and over an entire season doesn't measure up to his obvious talents.

He is world class in terms of his abilities, but not in terms of his performances so far. Probably, he needs to be played in a more advanced attacking position and maybe that could work.

Probably next season would be his make or break season with us, provided he stays.

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1.) 04 Apr 2019 15:19:13
Can never make up my mind. Just when I think I've given up on him, he pulls out a great display. Don't know if those far and few games are enough to warrant persevering with him. Can't be any passengers. I guess if he stays I'll be happy enough providing there's more consistency in his performances, but if he goes, I'll not be as upset as I thought I would be.


2.) 04 Apr 2019 15:57:53
If you could describe him as a footballer without getting in to any athletic qualities, in my mind anyway, he is remarkably similar to Mesut Özil. Can perfectly execute a range of passes, has immaculate close control and is mecurial on the ball. However, just like Özil he needs to be deployed in a totally free role and looks disinterested when things aren't working for him. This flaky attitude is something Pogba needs to fix, as soon as teams target him and they rightly should he's a key player, he doesn't look up to the challenge of having one or two players tasked with disrupting him. I think to really get the best out of him in the PL, he needs to play in a 'false 10' kind of role with two defensively solid and technically gifted players behind him. Right now there's no one else in the squad who you expect to create something from midfield and teams are free to focus solely on Pogba. It all comes back to squad balance - only one truly creative midfielder stop him and you stop United, only got players who are comfortable on the left wing - can overload the right hand side of defence to suffocate that attacking threat, only got one maybe two good ball playing defenders — close them down let them pass it to Smalling or Young who will smash it away long. It's why I think perhaps some players we won't see the best out of until we have those 4-6 top class editions we really need. Get a right winger and Martial and Shaw will be a lot more dangerous down the left, get someone who can create from deep and Pogba will have much more space to exploit.


3.) 04 Apr 2019 15:44:48
He isn't worth the drama around him.


4.) 04 Apr 2019 16:15:01
My main concern would be how weak we are in midfield and that we can’t afford to lose another player (whether it be him or any other midfielder) . It seems Ander and Juan will be on their way this summer and Matic is near the end of his career. We will need to replace Ander and already need to look at a replacement for Pogba. If Pogba left, we would need to sign at least three new midfielders minimum as I don’t have much faith in Fred, Andreas or Scott. That much change (as.


5.) 04 Apr 2019 16:15:44
Well as the need for a new RB, CB and RW) could have a very negative effect on an already unsettled and unbalanced squad.


6.) 04 Apr 2019 15:50:31
LPU- No I wouldn't lose sleep. On his day he can play outrageous passes and show superhero vision to find a teammate but he doesn't have many of those days. I get the impression that craves attention and has to be the man in the news als not always for his football. On a financial note, he's on big wages and would bring in either a hefty fee or cash plus player deal that would benefit the club onlots of levels. If he stays and proves me wrong, sobeit but I won't hold my breath.


7.) 04 Apr 2019 15:53:42
thing is when pogba turns up we are a totally different team.

but its not just on pogba to be the only player to turn up. but world class players perform every week and that is what sets them aside to the rest and at the minute pogba is not world class

we need to keep our best players selling him would only make us weaker i feel, plus i bet he makes us a mint in merch.

{Ed002's Note - What "merch"?}


8.) 04 Apr 2019 16:25:26
On form he is one of the best players in the world. However, his form wobbles from amazing to awful sometimes within 90 minutes of a game. He doesn't seem to have the mentality to dig deep when needed or work on his game. Which means he is unlikely to ever seriously improve. Add to that he doesn't want to be here and he has the most difficult agent to deal with then it becomes clear that maybe we should allow him to move on if the right deal is available. Either 150m+ or maybe Varane and 40m+. But certainly not Bale or Kroos.

It was bad enough having to deal with the Ronaldo to Madrid circus every summer for 3-4 years. But Ronaldo was worth it. I would rather avoid that sort of distraction for a player such as Pogba.

Sell him and bring in someone who wants to be here, someone who will work on developing their games, someone who'll dig deep and fight when needed.


9.) 04 Apr 2019 16:23:44
Good post Nathaniel. Our lack of midfield depth has really been exposed, especially with Fellaini leaving. Pogba is such a frustrating player. Brilliant one day, poor the next. And when adversity hits the team, he goes from invisible to trying to do too much on his own. He does not seem able to drive the team or dictate solutions by combining, which is what we need from a good center midfielder.

Much of his brilliance is individual in nature - the way he can dribble, shield, turn, shoot, pass and run with the ball. These are all tremendous qualities he possesses. But he does not seem to develop that understanding with players around him to quickly pass and move to play out of pressure. Part of what made Barcelona so good at their peak was not just how good Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, and Busquets were individually, but how good they were collectively.

We don't have that currently with our midfield. Matic has quality but is slow, Herrera is excellent defensively, very committed tactically, intense, but limited offensively, and Pogba's strengths are more individual, and that when he is up to it. They are not a trio that come up with solutions together to different kinds of defensive pressure.


10.) 04 Apr 2019 17:00:24
Imo for pogba tp succeed he needs the right players around him to allow him to be as indulgent as he is on the ball.
So we either sign those players or sell bim.
He needs runners and players with great technical ability around him. We don't have a greizman or mbappe or kante or varane bonucchi pirlo etc all of these complement his weaknesses.
With better players around him he can excel. We have seen that.
He is no bryan robson or roy keane. He will rarely gran a game and win it on his own. He doesn't have that skill set.
But if he wants to move then its not the end of the world. Get a good deal and move on.
If that happens the irony will be us selling the players jose wanted out and chasing the players ed002 says he targeted.


11.) 04 Apr 2019 17:01:38
If a club offers Utd good money for the player then I would take it.
He gives us a 9/ 10 performance in one game followed by a 5/ 10 performance in the next 3 or 4. Players like Keane, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Robson, Ince etc were 7/ 10 as standard with a few 9/ 10 performances and hardly never the 5/ 10.
People mention a “false 10” position or a free role for Pogba. That just tells me everything that is wrong with him.
He has the talent and ability to match any player in addition he is powerful, fast and tall.
So why is he not a box to box midfield player that takes the game by the scruff of the neck and just dominate the midfield.
Why couldn’t he go on the pitch against Wolves and say you have Neves and Moutinho but I’m Pogba and I will control the midfield.
All midfield players are pigeonholed as other DM or AM etc it’s nonsense when you have a player of his talent.
He is very frustrating to watch and all the problems with his performances are in his head.


12.) 04 Apr 2019 17:02:55
Hard to disagree with everything above.

On his day he's class, absolutely no doubt about it. Watching him run a game is magical. Unfortunately it's once or twice a season which isn't enough.

People say he's world class and I have to disagree, as mentioned above, World Class players turn up every week. Even players like Christian Eriksen who play a similar position, but do it 7 or 8 times out of 10, have really high passing accuracy, scores goals and controls games. I'd much rather have a player like Eriksen than Pogba. More consistent and less drama.

I'm in the Pogba-out camp and have been for a long time. We'd be much better off without him.


13.) 04 Apr 2019 18:33:42
If he wants to go let him go. We only want players that actually want to be here. He's great on his day, the problem is he doesn't have too many of them. I can see him moving, his agent would love it plenty of money coming his way.


14.) 05 Apr 2019 06:34:13
I personally feel Pogba will excel if we sign top players. When we have players like Martial who rarely makes off the ball runs, it is difficult for Pogba to utilize his vision.

We have seen the pin point passes he spots when Rashford makes those runs in behind the defence.
Those are match winning moments only a few can pull off.
If we have similar attackers on the left and right, I believe Pogba will be a bigger threat as he can find those through balls at will. The team as a whole will be a serious attacking unit.

I also hope that working with Ole teaches him about passion of playing for this beautiful club.

Shappy, I am not convinced regarding the cash exchange deal with Varane. I believe he has never played close to 30 or more league games in the past 5 seasons.
Although his quality is undeniable, the last thing we need is a 100 million defender with exorbitant wages on the treatment table.


 

 

04 Apr 2019 13:23:24
Like some of the other posters pointed out, the vibe of negativity is back on with a few losses and it's quite depressing.

OGS couldn't have done any better than what he did to be given the job. It's one thing not liking or wanting a manager, but the "yes man" taunts from some is over the top. For what OGS has done in such a short time, he definitely doesn't deserve that.

One can understand the passion, frustration of some, but OGS has been in the job for only 4 months and he's just settling down. Just wait for the transfer window, let him get the players he wants and next season we can judge him.

For now, he has got to work with what he got with top 4 in sight and tough CL games coming up. Let's back him wholeheartedly and see where it takes us.

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1.) 04 Apr 2019 14:17:01
Well said LPU well said 👍.


2.) 04 Apr 2019 14:46:53
Good post mate. Problem we have seen the last few appointments is that if people don’t support the appointment then they never give that manager a chance. Let’s get behind the team and manager and see what happens. We have a huge summer of investment needed as well as a major overhaul. Until we have done that it’s very unfair to be attacking ole. Just because he wasn’t your choice of manager does not mean you have to revel in the ‘I told you so’ mentality when we lose. It’s unhealthy and makes this site not particularly enjoyable. We are all united fans and all we want to see us return to our former glory. Ole has a huge job in his hands that won’t take one season to fix. He needs time and signs of clear progression in playing style and results. He has my backing.


3.) 04 Apr 2019 15:21:29
Good post, Park. It's no secret I can't stand José and didn't want him here, but I wanted him to succeed, because if he succeeded, Utd were succeeding. Can't understand the other mentality at all.


4.) 04 Apr 2019 15:31:49
So true Park3lung. The one thing with Ole is that he knows more about the club than any of the previous appointments and that's a good starting point.

It probably would take 2 transfer windows to get the quality signings to cover each position. In the upcoming window we need atleast 4 signings to strengthen the key positions.

Provided we get our targets, next season would be a settling-in period for new players (unless they settle in quickly) and also for OGS to implement a style of play. And then carry on from there.


5.) 04 Apr 2019 14:15:04
Fine LetsPlay, reaction is OTT. But please do explain the following quoted comment from Ed002 and then tell me about your comment as to how will he get the players he wants.

"{Ed002's Note - OGS will not have any more than a minor role to play in the transfer market. }"

if he isn't a yes man, then what will he do when he isn't backed with players he wants rather than a dedicated hospital wing fr gareth bale. Please do tell me.

{Ed002's Note - The comment is clear. Many coaches only have a minor role in deciding which players to chase - and many have no involvement at all when it comes to picking players.}


6.) 04 Apr 2019 15:42:14
ole all ready has his hands tied behind his back because of some players that are on big contracts and are not going to leave for less money. that then stops him getting the type of players to get us back to the top and with him having little input on transfer makes his job even harder.


7.) 04 Apr 2019 16:32:03
UA,

You are living off this comment from Ed002 when he isn't saying anything that isn't normal in most clubs across the land. Clubs have scouts etc that deal with spotting players and then Woodward and his cronies will sort out the deals, I am sure Solskjaer has given an idea of how he wants to play and what type of players we should sign and then he will work with what he is given.


8.) 04 Apr 2019 17:16:49
The important point is that Ole understands Utd, the fans and the way that the team should play.
If the club already have transfer targets which are relatively long standing and Ole is aware and in agreement then that would be normal.
If he didn’t agree with a certain target for whatever reason then we would presume that he would say so and if agreed by all concerned then the club would not pursue the player in question.
When LVG joined he was told about the proposed signings of Shaw and Herrera which were longer term targets which he was happy to sanction. These players haven’t been bad signings.
So this is probably normal when you have a proper scouting system.
Ideally all of this would be channelled and agreed through a DoF which is perhaps where the uncertainty and fault of this kind of scenario currently sits.


9.) 04 Apr 2019 17:19:05
The days of the Ferguson style manager having total control over every aspect of the club are gone. Ole will say to Ed the Great which players he doesn't need and which players he does. Its then on the Magnificent Woody to do the deals. If people aren't interested in buying our cast offs because they're either garbage or asking too much money or if he can't get clubs to sell players we want then what can we do. The issue I'll have is if he ignores the manager and spends the summer batting his eyes at that crock Bale.


 

 

03 Apr 2019 14:30:41
I have a question for the Ed's and everyone on here:

Do you believe that Ole probably has a slight edge over Woodward with the fact that he has the support of everyone at the club including Sir Alex and ex players. With his legendary status and him being so popular among the fans and also with all the mess created over the last few years, do you think there could be a slight power shift for Ole in making footballing decisions this time round?

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn't work like that, they aren't at school.}


1.) 03 Apr 2019 15:04:13
Haha.

Sorry Let's play, but that was a cracking response from the Ed there.


2.) 03 Apr 2019 15:09:47
Thanks for the quick response Ed002.

Do you think if appointing a DOF would help? What would be Woodward's role in case a DOF comes in?

{Ed002's Note - I have answered all of these questions before - nothing has changed my view.}


3.) 03 Apr 2019 15:26:54
Jonny, I think all of us would love to see the back of Woodward from the footballing side of things. The guy has messed up United and I hope he doesn't have to get involved anymore in the coming seasons on the footballing front.


4.) 03 Apr 2019 15:28:53
Thanks ED002.


 

 

28 Mar 2019 17:00:10
Congrats Ole. With that sorted out, the next critical thing would be to appoint a DOF as soon as possible.

We need our transfer plans in place and need to get it right this time with atleast a couple of key positions sorted out with quality signings. It would certainly take a few windows to sort out all positions, but this window is critical for us.

I just fear with Woodie in charge and the power vested upon him by the Glazers. Hopefully we get a DOF before Woodie gets to showcase his deadly skills on the footballing side of things.

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09 Aug 2016 04:24:09
Welcome Pogba.

He would certainly need to settle in quickly and prove his doubters wrong. All these years playing in Italy and now he has to step up to the big league in the EPL and it does not come any bigger than playing for Manchester United.

This is a real tester for him and hope he excels in this challenge.

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26 Jun 2016 04:21:22
Not worth 100m. better players out there for the position we need to fill in. I would rather buy 2-3 quality players for that money. He is not as good as he thinks and a totally overhyped player for me.

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18 Apr 2019 18:20:33
Mgoa, I agree to a certain extent with respect to the criticism as well as the fans needing to be more vocal at home.

But, I don't agree with your Pogba argument at all. What could be more mediocre than a player of his quality and talent not performing consistently week in week out. Just because the players around him are mediocre doesn't mean he would not play to his potential. He among with other players are being paid top money to play for the club, no excuses whatsoever can be entertained for not performing. Top class players standout from the rest and perform week in week out, irrespective of how bad the team might be playing.

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18 Apr 2019 08:46:21
Very true and taken penalties into account makes his stats much poorer.

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18 Apr 2019 07:27:39
Becks58, Pogba has been discussed so many times over here.

13 goals, 9 assists - in how many games? And how many games has he gone missing or being pretty average?
Highest number of attempts - how many of them actually made the opposition GK sweat? How many of them had been on target? For a player of his quality, his shooting has been pretty poor.

How are you even comparing Pogba with academy lads? Pogba, a player deemed to be world class, won titles with Juventus and a world cup winner and yet fails to live up to the hype.

I agree both Rashford and Lukaku have missed crucial chances and deserve criticism. But, you need to remember Rashford is still young and in the development phase and to be fair, he gives his 100% in games unlike Pogba who just strolls around in most games and plays only when he wants to.

There is a saying "Hardwork overtakes talent if talent fails to work hard" and that's the case with Pogba. What's the use of all that talent when you can't use it and moreover he is 26, has experience but yet fails to deliver consistently.

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12 Apr 2019 17:51:41
mnk397, what do you expect Ole to do? We had a couple of players returning back from injuries and a couple of inexperienced lads to choose from to play against Barca.

"We were clearly more concerned with not losing rather than going and winning. " - I have never seen any team pressing high up the pitch in a defensive setup and going as deep as into the opposition half, so that they don't lose the game - that's so weird.

With regards to Pogba, he has all the talent in the world and yet so wasted with his lack of desire/ application on the pitch. In his years at the club, except for a few matches he has never really stood out - yes, you can blame the management, the manager, the fans and the players around him, but if you want to be regarded the best in the world, you need to showcase your talents/ skills on the pitch consistently and standout from the crowd. Look at players like Ronaldo, Messi, DeGea - they are World class because they have the ability to win games on their own and they do it consistently - even if the team is not playing well.

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04 Apr 2019 15:31:49
So true Park3lung. The one thing with Ole is that he knows more about the club than any of the previous appointments and that's a good starting point.

It probably would take 2 transfer windows to get the quality signings to cover each position. In the upcoming window we need atleast 4 signings to strengthen the key positions.

Provided we get our targets, next season would be a settling-in period for new players (unless they settle in quickly) and also for OGS to implement a style of play. And then carry on from there.

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