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17 Jul 2015 18:19:37
Bbc reporting that unless we get Ramos that De Gea is staying another year.

We might lose ;20 mill but I'm happy that Real can't expect to get their way every time. 20 mill is nothing to a club our size. With the kit deal kicking in and European money, we won't miss it.

Hope we stick to our guns and Ddg has a blinder of a season and he leaves a champion once again. He has not forced the move and there is always that ray of hope he signs an extension to at least get his worth next summer.


1.) 17 Jul 2015 19:10:18
It would be nice if they had the same stance with psg for di Maria either keep him or tell them to pay what we paid for him their desperate for him and we don't want to sell I think we should keep him now we have the players to bring out the best in him we shld not take a loss of 15 million

2.) 17 Jul 2015 19:18:23
This is going to go on till the last day of the transfer window. Utd have a contingency in place if it does, I think it's paying oblak's release clause!! Could one of the eds confirm if they know of a release clause in lloris's contract too, I've been told that it also includes one.

3.) 17 Jul 2015 19:43:55
if he doesn't sign a new contract i would sell him and buy a new keeper as soon as

4.) 17 Jul 2015 20:01:55
DDG should just either stay or leave. Make him rot in the bench. Had enough of it already.

5.) 17 Jul 2015 20:25:50
Why should he 'rot' on the bench? He's not asked to leave. He's not refusing to play or publicly slating the club. He's a young Spanish lad that wants to go back home. He's given years of loyal service, has been happy with 60k a week and pretty much single handedly assured us champions league football this season.

What an absurd comment.

6.) 17 Jul 2015 20:28:19
I totally agree de gea is a fantastic gk and I really hope he stays but the last thing we need is for him to leave near theend of the transfer window and we can't get anyone else in

7.) 17 Jul 2015 20:56:57
I love the stance of not selling him, DDG has never said he is unhappy here just that he would like to go to madrid, the fans won't turn on him, he will continue to play well and if he leaves on a free we don't lose anything, we never had the money and his value will have been written off. If he plays like he did the last 2 years and we have a much better side in front of him he could win us the league, I would take a 20 million loss to win the league any day of the week.

8.) 17 Jul 2015 21:01:45
Make him rot on the bench? Great fan!

9.) 17 Jul 2015 21:09:56
I'm sure I'm probably wrong but I saw somewhere we'd only have to sell di Maria for 48 million to break even.

10.) 17 Jul 2015 21:22:41
Does anyone really think we'll be teaching RM a lesson by not selling DDG now! They are happy to wait and will get him for nothing next year. In the meantime his commitment to us may weaken and other players will know he wants out. We should stop posturing and sell him to RM now.

11.) 17 Jul 2015 21:41:28
Guys don't be so naive. If you really thought he hasn't said anything publicly is out of respect, you are kidding yourselves. Due to the complexity of the dealings he realized United was not going to budge, so if he were to stay due to contract agreement he didn't want to make a bad name for himself for the remaining year. I respect him for making us reach 4th. Hands down he played the most part in it. But, he shouldn't hide his inner want and think us for fools to now know it. He should have made his intention clear than have us fans sweat all summer and plead to him. He is not saying anything because that's bad for the deal. He stills expect to leave if possible this summer. That's the real thing here. Don't fool yourselves.

12.) 17 Jul 2015 22:56:17
Think the bloke has handled the whole thing well as the club have.

If he stays for a year and performs how he has been that's fine by me and it will also be nice to have Madrid dance to our tune they are the biggest bully in the playground( with us being perhaps 2nd 😜)

13.) 18 Jul 2015 00:09:40
I'm with Dean 100% dg has handled it all right on the line and very professional and so have the club. No name calling or any 'sterling' behavior just an air of professionalism and class with no fingers being pointed. The club have stood staunch and shown that they won't be bullied and you've got to wonder whether van gaal has brought that to the table, he's definitely a not messing about character who's obviously respected in international football circles. I think he could lead us right into another period of domination.personally I'm proper made up how things are going at the min and I think that's how by far the majority of the club feel.I can't wait to see what happens over the next few weeks

14.) 18 Jul 2015 00:51:50
De Gea is contracted to United for a further 12 months. I think some folk are forgetting he's no obligation to sign a new deal just so we can get a decent fee for him.

I believe he will honour the last year of his contract as he's honoured the rest: professionally.

I read De Gea's family wanted him to return home to Madrid well over a year ago and they are annoyed that Jorge Mendes hasn't been able to extract him earlier, especially as De Gea has turned down several improved wage offers.

De Gea will return home to Madrid at some point. That should either be now for the £25m+ that would be appropriate or next year for nothing. Either way I do think Woodward has played his hand well with Real. One could argue we should be putting young talents on longer than 4/5 year contracts if we expect them to be first teamers. If we had done with DDG the dynamic would be different, I.e, Real would be looking at £40m+ to sign him irrespective of the fact he / his family may still want him to return home.

15.) 18 Jul 2015 08:57:20
RedatHeart - it's ages since I've posted here but I feel I have to respond to you.

DDG wants to go back to Madrid for personal reasons and because he wants to play for Real. He's Spanish. Of course he wants to play for Real if he gets the chance. Why should that upset us? What's your view on Schneiderlin and his lack of loyalty to Southampton? What about Sterling? Hey, he was honest in the way he behaved, right?

It doesn't matter what DDG wants or thinks. He is behaving professionally and treating his existing contract with respect, so we should all respect him for that in return.

16.) 18 Jul 2015 19:18:25
Its 100% certain that DDG will leave this summer.
There is no chance the glazers would throw away 20 million (its what he's worth with a year left on his contract) - they are business men - not fans - never forget that

17.) 18 Jul 2015 23:14:06

It's not 100% certain at all, don't talk rubbish. Would you stake your house on it?




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12 Dec 2017 02:40:40
Well after a bit of reflection.

It was a game we needed to win but a draw wouldn't have been the end of the world. I think most of us would have been satisfied with 1-1. We lost to a goal that has caused me to break a few PlayStation controllers over the years while playing FIFA.

We just have to be pragmatic. Man City, at the moment are probably the best club side in Europe. They are playing ridiculously good football. Peps got the Barcelona 09 team regens. At that time we had Fergie and Ronaldo and co and we still couldn't get near them then. 5 years before that it was the invincibles and 5 before that was the 99 team. Every now and then a team clicks and you just have to hold up your hand and say they are the best and we couldn't get near their level. Just like after the Rome and Wembley finals.

Im not sure what more Jose could have done with the players at his disposal and the form of some players. If we went gung ho we could have been embarrassed again at Old Trafford. Not because we are so poor but city could do that to anyone on their day. 11 points should be too much but it's still December. We need to plug away and see if we can make the match at the Etihad mean something.

We have a decent draw in Europe and it's all about momentum. Anyone can win a cup competition. Chin up lads. Still plenty to play for.


1.) 12 Dec 2017 05:42:22
James they did not open us up like they did to Liverpool or play us off park like they did to Chelsea, they dominated possession and created an odd chance beyond that nothing much, mourinho shot himself in the foot by his team selection and tactics, in 2nd half we were chasing the game all he did was bring on zlatan to play 4 forwards because starting 3 were not enough while everyone could see we were getting dominated in midfield and our long ball stuff was just embarrassing thanks to the pass mastery of likes of rojo and the holdup skills of the great 75mn forward mourinho brought, they did not beat us because they were better they beat us because mourinho messed up.

2.) 12 Dec 2017 08:08:21
James, I think Mou could have done much much better with the players he had at his disposal. Maybe, just maybe, City had a couple of players who are better when you head to head, but I don't think they have a squad which light years ahead of ours.

The point that CSM makes is correct, City did not scare us through open play, they didn't create a single one on one chance that opened up our defence, instead, two really shabby attempts at clearing a ball cost us.

We could have done much better. Our team was not just in our own half, we were in our final 3rd, not what you expect when you play at OT. Maybe, Mou needs to let go of the fact that he doesn't have the 'players he can trust' because trust me, a lot of managers can and will play better with the squad that United have.

I think he needs to take a hard look at himself and his tactics and understand that his 'pragmatic approach' is kind of costing us valuable points and maybe, in this case, the title.

{Ed025's Note - i could not agree more raghay..

3.) 12 Dec 2017 09:49:23
I agree. Jose takes the blame for me this week as he got his tactics wrong and City played us like a banjo.

Too deep, too negative and not sure why we didn’t stick with the 3 at the back that’s been working?

His cautious and pragmatic approach is not a natural fit for us. It is when we win, when we lose it’s meltdown. Jose gets paid the big bucks to make these calls, so on this occasion he merits criticism as he got it wrong. As above though, this nonsense on not being able to trust players. Maybe give them some confidence and they might surprise us. On paper, our teams were pretty well matched bar Pogba’s absence.

We are making progress and with a few tweaks at full back and midfield I think we are not far off.

4.) 12 Dec 2017 10:44:44
Good post, Raghav, mate.



16 Aug 2017 17:10:10
I've read elsewhere that City are after Johnny Evans. Not sure if true but there is one lad I would have happily kept in the squad.


1.) 16 Aug 2017 18:01:09
Rumour has it that he used to fight with Jones and Smalling over the physio beds.

2.) 16 Aug 2017 18:26:32
I like Evans but he was a confidence player. LVG destroyed his confidence and he looked lost towards the end.

I think a move to City would be a big gamble for both parties, will he play enough? I doubt he would get much game time so when he did play he would feel the pressure imo, so I hope City sign him as he will be a liability, but I also hope he doesn't sign for them as I like the guy and think he is playing at the level he should be.

Keepers like CB's can look good playing for mid-table teams because they get called into action more, doing the things they thrive at. When they step up to the CL clubs level they can sometimes be found wanting as it's a different game, more ball possession, concentration is paramount as it's not hurly burly and scrutiny is intense. It's why Smalling does ok when he has a simple marking job to do more often than not and Rojo. Give them the ball or something to think about and it's lottery time.

3.) 16 Aug 2017 20:17:32
Never really rated him hugely tbh, ball was like a hot potato at his feet. No better than Smalling for me.

4.) 16 Aug 2017 21:29:34
Disagree thought he was very composed on the ball but he could be and was often bullied by opposing forwards. Question is would he want to spoil his relationship with our fans to go to City and mainly be on the bench.

5.) 16 Aug 2017 21:43:12
Evans was our best CB for a while, but agree he is a confidence player. He performed great for us for about 18 months when Rio and vidic were both out at different times giving him a decent run in the team. He may, due to kompanys issues get a similar chance. However I can't see him being any better than 4th choice behind kompany, otanendi, and stones. Even mangala seems a better player to be used as a reserve in my opinion.

Good luck to the lad wherever he ends up.

6.) 16 Aug 2017 22:51:22
Personally always felt he looked good with someone experienced next to him. However, when he was the senior CB in the pairing, I thought he looked lost. City need a leader at the back when Kompany's out (which is more often than not) - I'm surprised they didn't offer Terry a contract if they're willing to pay £18m for Evans.



14 Aug 2017 00:33:25
Just checked the fantasy football. we did say tenner a man right? ;-) :-D.




02 Aug 2017 22:58:52
Ah balls to it, I'm just going to say it.

Im feeling it. I love the squad. I love the options. I love the pace. I love the mix of youth and experience. I love how when we all talk first 11 we don't think of gems of players like Mata on the bench.

Yes there are a few upgrades to be had but the core is there. We are moving forward. Jose is turning us into a force once again with a squad to be envied. I genuinely can't wait for this season. We're not far off really. Not far at all.


1.) 02 Aug 2017 23:27:59
I am feeling it too, James.

2.) 03 Aug 2017 02:33:43
Yes yes yes!

As a squad Jose has lots of options. He really can play so many different ways with this team.

Peresic would be the cherry on top. But you can see why he would be happy to go forward with this group.

Roll on the start of the season!

3.) 03 Aug 2017 06:13:42
I think most of us are james a new era for our great club 😊.

4.) 03 Aug 2017 07:06:26
Well that was refreshing to read, well said James.

5.) 03 Aug 2017 08:15:06
Sorry to rain on your parade but we are still miles away from where we should be. We still don't have a team anywhere near as good as the 1999 or 2008 ones. Those teams had top players in every position. Let's be realistic and say who out of our best eleven are really world class. De Gea Pogba and that's it. We have lots of good players but we should aspire to being and having the best. For sure the team is in much better shape than it has been for years but let's look at things without getting carried away.

6.) 03 Aug 2017 08:43:22
Nice post James. A winger and maybe a full back to come in (are there no youth candidates ready to step up? ) and we are in with a good shout.

7.) 03 Aug 2017 09:53:49

In both of those years you mentioned we had awesome teams, yes.
But name me players in those who were better than any other in the world in their positions?

It's not about building a team of World 11's its about building a cohesive squad who will battle for each other, no in-fighting. Who work hard and look out for each other, were those squads better? Yeah, probably, but that desn't diminish the work Jose and Ed Woodward have done to turn around our first team squad over the last few years.

We do have a very strong squad, we will be hard to beat and we will play exciting football.

Will we put Barcelona? Real to the sword? No, Probably not, but what they will do is put the foundations there to build on.

Be positive not negative, times have moved on drastically from the 90's. Oasis split up too btw :-)


8.) 03 Aug 2017 12:13:40
Anyone who thinks those teams put Bayern, Barcelona or Real "to the sword" is kidding themselves. Hell, we couldn't put Arsenal to the sword (except one very memorable Monday evening 8-2 if memory has not completely failed me)

Big European games were often cagey, with Ronny casting a loan figure upfront against 4 defenders whilst Rooney played left back.

Loving the optimistic thread :)

9.) 03 Aug 2017 15:58:23
Gazpat Schmeichel Stam Scholes Giggs Keane Beckham Van de Saar?
Ronaldo immediately spring to mind. I am positive in that Jose is definitely improving us but this current team have a long way to go yet to get to the levels of the 1999 and 2008 teams.

10.) 03 Aug 2017 16:13:53

I'd have Buffon before Van Der Sar, I'd have Buffon before Schmeichel, I'd just as much had Pirlo or Zidane as Scholes (Although I love him, Like proper man crush haha) I'd equally have other players ahead of the rest of the players you mentioned, they were your favourite players in them positions but there were equally as good players out there.

I am not saying they weren't up there as they clearly where, give this squad 1 maybe two more years and you will be able to put at least 4-5 players up there with the best in the world, I guarantee it.

And yes again I agree they have a bit to go, but both of those squads were built over years by the same manager and ceo / director.

We now have had 3/ 4 managers in 4/ 5 years. Jose will leave us in an absolutely remarkably better place then when he came.

But basing this squad on years gone past for me is like comparing apples to oranges. The game has moved on so much from even 08.



01 Aug 2017 18:56:23
So. anyone think we might go for Neymar? Its well known we have long standing interest. We have had failed bids. I'm just shocked if a player like Neymar is available that we wouldn't revive our interest. I'm not saying I am an expert but I suspect we are one of few clubs that can afford it. I'm not sure how release clauses work but I thought they were only for teams in the same league? Maybe some wiggle room on the price there. Plus PSG have clearly rubbed Barcelona the wrong way. Could we be waiting until a deal with Aurier is struck incase PSG become difficult? I think I would even let Martial leave to fund some of it. So many questions and possible outcomes. I hope we are playing our cards close to our chest for a reason.


{Ed002's Note - No, it is not going to happen. Within the structure of what they have Manchester United cannot buy and sustain Neymar - one other club can but they have stepped away for a couple of reasons.}

1.) 01 Aug 2017 19:30:15
According to twitter (reliable I know)

Neymar is going to Qatar to get paid to be a World Cup ambassador and will be given 222m euros with a 0% tax on it due to no tax in Qatar.
He will then post it to Barcelona via fax (borrowed from Florentino Perez, that's the rumour) and then sign for Psg for free.

Wages are another story.

2.) 01 Aug 2017 19:44:49
Thanks Ed. Just a pondering thought really. Like I said I'm no expert in finances FZZ but that sounds so shady that I doubt that would be allowed. The Qataris will find a way. They always do.

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know whay that was posted, that as stated won't happen - is this Twitter that Ed004 is posting.}




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22 Aug 2017 16:57:54
Seen him play a few times as my mate is a Fulham fan and I take his tickets when he can't go.

Actually started as a winger but injuries forced him into full back. His has a great engine and gets up and down the line well. Needs to work on his 1 v 1 defending a little but that will come.

His brother, Steven, was rated the better prospect before a bad injury, he's at Fulham too. Apparently he is a little reluctant to leave his family and his family will not let him go anywhere that he's not looked after. Not just financially.

Not ready for us yet but a loan in both the championship and maybe another in the EPL and he would be perfect to rotate with Shaw.




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04 Aug 2017 13:02:04
Apparently, there was a photo taken with a tribute/ banner to all the Manchester victims, which happened two days before. Jones was told he had to miss it to take the test and he told them to eff off till he's had the photo taken. I think its very poor from Uefa. what's another 3 minutes in the scheme of things?





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07 Nov 2017 23:24:00
Chelsea went from 10th to champions so I fail to see the point.

Jose in the past has always bigged up United and it was well known he was always interested in the job. He looks like a guy who took a job on but it wasn't really the job that was pitched to him.

I've always beleived you can read Jose like a book. When he's happy he's clean shaved, suited and booted etc. When he's down its unshaven and tracksuits.

Now he's come to A club he's always admired and he's clearly unhappy about something.

In terms of the future. Alegri would be my choice with a director of football too.




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17 Oct 2017 19:00:58
GDS - mate the standard is so poor here. I watched a goal kick get given after a defender encroached during a penalty. That's a declaration of war in Luton!

I was assistant manager last year for an adult team and I had the same problems as Redman. Every young lad turning up with their green and pink boots thinking they were Ronaldo. They would cry at positions, if their mate wasn't playing etc. They skag of older players and show little respect. Great, you can do all your flicks and tricks but they bottled 50/ 50s and argued like hell. I came back and played for half a season at in the top league and worryingly I wasn't out of place four years after my last game. Youngsters today just don't want to listen to tactics, off the ball work. It really opened my eyes to attitudes these days. If I walked into a dressing room back in the day and said and acted the way some of them do, I would have got eaten alive.

I would do youth teams again but them you have the same problems with parents thinking their kid is a star. Parents ruin youth football for me.

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17 Oct 2017 10:22:09
I passed my level 1 and 2 a number of years ago. They cost around £500. I used to help run a few youth teams and the club paid half. Uefa badges are ridiculously expensive and very tough. I've genuinely been thinking about getting into reffing sat afternoons. The standard has been shocking in my area and it's about £35 per match. I've just been medically retired from playing and I'm tempted. Be interesting as I've been captain of my club for six years so had a lot of ref bull in my time. Tempted to see what it's like on the other side of the whistle.




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12 Oct 2017 08:03:15
Stephen Robinson from Northen Ireland Nou? If so, a quality player for Luton. Great attacking cm and a legend for the goal past the scousers in that epic game.

My cousin is manager of Dundee! But apart from Celtic I don't follow Sunday league football. Lol.




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11 Oct 2017 15:56:34
With you there Danny. Luton lad myself. Some great days home and away especially about 2002 time.