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07 Nov 2017 10:57:36
Serious question, I read this morning that Jose is being lined up by PSG. Do we think we can keep him - if not, who do we see as a potential next manager? I would have said Pochettino, but I can't see him leaving Spurs?

gmartin8

1.) 07 Nov 2017 11:03:57
Giggs is still available.


2.) 07 Nov 2017 11:15:51
Do we want to keep him?

I don't think his heart is in it here, so maybe the PSG thing will work out perfectly for all parties. Maybe the Monaco manager (Leonardo Jardim) have a read of his Wiki if you don't know much about him. Or some other up and coming attack minded manager, we have gone down the so called "world class" route, maybe time to try somebody with fresh ideas that could commit 100% to the club and bring back the gung-ho attacking spirit we have lacked for too long.

I agree that Poch maybe too difficult at the minute, missed that boat. But money talks.


3.) 07 Nov 2017 11:16:47
Moyes is only on a 6 month contract.


4.) 07 Nov 2017 11:19:11
Seem to be doing well PSG u would have to wonder why they would want to change there manager.


5.) 07 Nov 2017 13:10:14
That's the thing tho. We've tried British manager. Failed. We've tried experienced veteran. Failed. Altho managed a cup and top 4. We've tried arguably best manager around. Won 2 cups yet people want him axed. Where do we go and how long is he going to have?


6.) 07 Nov 2017 13:21:30
Be very careful what you wish for Beast! You have been warned! Give him time, the blokes a winner, his style will improve once his has built the team he wants I'm sure of it!


7.) 07 Nov 2017 13:35:31
The reports are worrying I must say. Agree with Danny with be careful what we wish for. Another bad appointment could set us back years. With all the money and competition now in the league we don’t want to be left behind. I think Jose has done well to re-establish us to some extent, it’s just city are very good this year that things seem worse than they actually are. Any other season we would be top and would be very happy. If Jose goes do you guys think the club may revisit the allegri option again? Looks like he could be ready to make that step into the prem. other options of course Poch but he is unattainable. Ancelotti is available but I’m not so sure. Sarri of Napoli and as beast mentioned Jardim would be left field choices. Napoli are a fantastic team on the eye and sarri has done very well there. I think though we need to keep Jose at least to the end of his contract and back him because we will win trophies in his tenure. He has my backing and once pogba is back I think we will see an upturn in performances and atmosphere around the club at the moment.


8.) 07 Nov 2017 14:02:19
Giggs will always be available until he pulls his head out of his arse and takes a job at a smaller club and proves himself.

I hope we don't lose Jose as finding another manager more season and having to do so unexpectedly makes finding the right person almost impossible.

Maybe what we should take from this is one of the top teams in the world values our manager, maybe we should to.


9.) 07 Nov 2017 14:02:38
Ancelotti.


10.) 07 Nov 2017 14:06:43
Ancelotti because he's not a t*sser like Mourinho and will bring some much needed good vibes and harmony to Man Utd.

Second, he's a proven winner with loads of experience at big clubs and in the Premier League.

Third, he plays attractive, attacking football and is flexible with his approach to get the best out of the players he has at his disposal.

Fourth, he makes good pizza.


11.) 07 Nov 2017 15:24:09
Talkin like Jose is definitely a goner. What is going on?


12.) 07 Nov 2017 15:56:40
Apart from Moyes who I disliked full stop, I've never had a manager in the last 47 years I felt so ambiguous about as JM - pleased with the trophys, pleased he has given us a semblance of stability, pleased we look top 4 material again more than we have for 3 years, but if he upped and left tomorrow i wouldn't be arsed. The football is not great (appreciating its not yet his team) but the basics would be there for someone coming in . The fella isn't that likeable, although he could be a nice bloke who knows?

I like ancelotti, I like Simone, Poch won't come yet if ever but maybe we will see a DOF in the near future . Either way for it to even be a discussion point after 16 months is odd if not worrying.


13.) 07 Nov 2017 16:07:36
is Mourinho the real problem here? i somehow think Ed Woodward is the bigger problem.


14.) 07 Nov 2017 16:08:13
It’s just my opinion, but I don’t think Jose is 100% sold on United, and I don’t think the United board are 100% sold on Jose being at United. It seems more of a relationship of convenience than anything else in that both possibly need each other, but don’t want each other.

Unless the board ‘back’ Jose 100% (by back I don’t just mean financially, they need to make him feel loved) then I can see him walking away or being pushed at the end of the season.

Is there anyone out there better suited who is available? Are the club secretly trying to get a more suitable replacement in? I guess we’ll soon find out.


15.) 07 Nov 2017 16:23:16
Good post Park!

For me we need a period of stability. Results trump style every day of the week in my opinion.

Are we really that bad to watch? Every team has periods in the season when they don't play well.

Jose is pragmatic, we probably won't see us really attack another top 6 side (especially away from home) until he's built a team he trusts.

Most games have been relatively entertaining this season. We've suffered since Pogba got injured but hopefully he'll be back soon. I don't mind defensive performances against the better teams as long as we attack and have a go against the perceived smaller Clubs which is pretty much what we've seen this season.

Park hit the nail on the head the form and swagger of City is making everybody else look ordinary by comparison. Traditionally they have a dip over winter so let's just wait and see where we are come the New Year.

A top 3 finish and good cup runs would represent good progress in my book. If we can address the obvious deficiencies in the summer and maybe add that real jewel in the crown a la Hazard, Sanchez, Greizmann type, somebody to support Lukaku and can get us between 15-20 leagues goals I see no reason why we can't mount a serious challenge both at home and in Europe next year!


16.) 07 Nov 2017 17:50:56
Good post Danny. People go on about Simeone but his teams are ultra defensive and 10x more boring to watch than Jose's. People are complaining now about our style then there will be even more kick offs if Simeone were appointed. He is great at what he does but it is a no thanks from me. I hope that Jose signs on as I am a fan but I guess we will just have to wait and see.


17.) 07 Nov 2017 20:32:00
A lot of what is being banded around is rightly on the back of City's form. I'll have it but I wouldn't be too sure about this winter dip. Leicester and Chelsea more or less had it won from here the last two seasons

The start got a lot of people exited, I for one was rather more pragmatic, to go from 6th to Champions was never on the cards for me and I firmly believe he didn't get all the signings he wanted this summer. there's even talk and I emphasise the word talk, about a big January window coming up.

I don't see City doing a Newcastle 1996 from here, so top four is still the goal for us. Personally I think we are about as good as Liverpool and Arsenal at the minute and it will be a fight between the 3 for 4th spot. I may get maligned for this but I don't think I'm far off the mark with it.

I, as a United fan will settle for a trophy a season, any trophy, last year we got 2. Our dominance is over now but I agree progress and continuity is the key objective. Top 4 and a bonus pot of some description would do me fine this year.


18.) 07 Nov 2017 21:12:14
I can't believe this is being discussed!


19.) 07 Nov 2017 21:38:47
Well balanced post Moston I can't argue with much of that to be honest!

I think your right about the run away leaders. Whilst the league should be (in theory) the most competitive it has been in years, in recent seasons one team has managed to put a run of results together whilst all the others have struggled for any real consistency. It looks like it might be the same this year as well.

I think we're probably a bit better than Liverpool and Arsenal but I don't think there's much between us Chelsea and Spurs. I expect us to finish in the top 3 .

If people can stomach the defensive displays I think we'll have a decent run in the Champions League providing we keep our key players fit. I don't think we have anything to fear and We'll be a tough nut to crack over two legs, most teams won't fancy playing us.

As I've said earlier we need a good summer window and I fully expect to see a serious title challenge next season.


20.) 07 Nov 2017 23:24:00
Chelsea went from 10th to champions so I fail to see the point.

Jose in the past has always bigged up United and it was well known he was always interested in the job. He looks like a guy who took a job on but it wasn't really the job that was pitched to him.

I've always beleived you can read Jose like a book. When he's happy he's clean shaved, suited and booted etc. When he's down its unshaven and tracksuits.

Now he's come to A club he's always admired and he's clearly unhappy about something.

In terms of the future. Alegri would be my choice with a director of football too.


21.) 08 Nov 2017 09:43:07
Liverpool, Huddersfield and chelsea he played cagey football also at Southampton but got away with it we got 4 points out of 12 if we played a more attacking game do you think we would get more than 4 I think we would . We set out to defend at 0-0 and not try to attack sometimes we might win 1-0 mostly we'll draw or lose.


22.) 08 Nov 2017 09:58:50
Agree with most of that James. Beginning of the season we were playing well and he was suited and booted and we all thought he’d turned a corner. But now he is back in his trackies. Rumours we will look to go big in January and I would not be surprised to be honest. We really miss that world class player such as hazard/ Sanchez player that can take the game by the scruff of the neck and make something out of nothing.

Chelsea were champions the year before they came 10th and simply downed tools so I think it’s harsh to judge this team with that team. Most of our players have never won a premier league and I think that it speaks volumes. Allegri would definitely be top of my list but I think we just have to get our injured players back and put our heads down and go on a run through this crucial winter period. Titles can be won and lost during this period and there is no more room for dropping points.


 

 

02 Aug 2017 07:59:24
I read this morning that we are still going after Perisic and they want to Utd to include Martial in the deal. Surely after the pre season he has had, we should be looking to keep Martial and move on to other options? Martial only being in his early 20's is only going to improve and increase in price?

gmartin8

1.) 02 Aug 2017 11:14:40
Has Martial done that much in pre season? I'm still to be convinced he will come good for us.


2.) 02 Aug 2017 11:55:12
Let him go on loan for a year and maybe the move will give him more game time and also develop his self confidence and maturity then next year he can come back a better player like Perreira.


3.) 02 Aug 2017 13:45:18
I think he's looked good in pre-season, much more like the player we saw first season and full of confidence. I'd be happier signing no new winger than signing perisic and losing martial.


4.) 02 Aug 2017 13:50:25
Give inter £30m and Martial for a year. Take it or leave it.


 

 

10 Jul 2017 10:59:59
I am really hoping that its true that we could be signing Bakayoko. He could be a fantastic signing if true! I would far rather him than Matic.

gmartin8

1.) 10 Jul 2017 11:03:33
Gmartin
So would Chelsea.


2.) 10 Jul 2017 11:54:47
Think there would be a fair bit of comraderie with Pogba, Lukaku and Lingard if he came! Hashtag heaven!


3.) 10 Jul 2017 12:26:12
I'm taking it with a pinch of salt. Personally I think we need a passer rather than a destroyer. Someone who can sit deep, break up play with good anticipation and start attacks from deep. Bakayoko seems more like Yaya Toure, physical player who uses his strength to push forward in a more box to box role rather than a playmaker. We have Pogba and Herrera who can play that box to box role. We have Mata and Mkhitaryan who can play as No.10's but only Carrick who can be that deep playmaker.

But if we do move for Bakayoko it might seems like as a club we are doing our best to screw up Chelsea's recruitment drive. Signing their first choice target in two key positions after it looked like we had other targets in mind for those positions (Morata/ Matic) . Or maybe we are just moving for Bakayoko to try and hurry Chelsea along, make them worried that they might lose another top target. That way we can close the Matic deal quicker, as they won't sell him until they have signed their replacement.


4.) 10 Jul 2017 12:36:38
I'd say it's far more simple. United are interested in the player, but Chelsea are in pole position at present.

No need to read any more into it than that.


5.) 10 Jul 2017 12:51:48
I think we need someone in the 10 role to get the best out of lukaku.
Would like to see pogba kick on and be a proper box to box cm.
Which would leave herrera mopping up in front of the back 4 which I think he done well this year .
Prob need another cm not sure it has to be someone who is expected to start week in week out tho.


6.) 10 Jul 2017 13:40:39
Miki is perfect for the no 10 role. Play Rashford and martial out wide with lukaku up top.

Pogba and Herrera just in front of either matic or another cdm.


7.) 10 Jul 2017 13:52:13
And play three at the back?


8.) 10 Jul 2017 15:54:03
35m the fee quoted.


9.) 10 Jul 2017 16:41:17
I would take bakayoko over matic.


10.) 10 Jul 2017 17:42:08
Chelsea holding off Bakayoko transfer as they're worried about a knee injury.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 12:54:44
What is everyone's thoughts on trying to sign Matic?

gmartin8

1.) 22 Jun 2017 13:12:23
Double EPL winner, knows Jose's system, provides a solid base for the midfield. Would be a fantastic signing for us. Exactly the type of player who would give Pogba a bit more freedom to attack, and could help the likes of Fuzzy Mensa and Tuanzebe develop their game.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 13:18:30
Personally never been overly impressed. Always seemed a bit one dimensional to me. However he does the job well and played a big part in bolstering the midfield for Chelsea to win the title with Jose.

I'm also a tad unsure over whether signing someone who Chelsea are looking to upgrade on sends the right message.

However, it's a position that needs filling and I can't think of anyone I've found particularly convincing. Taking into accounts the Eds comments on Fabinho and his laziness, I'm not enthralled by Bakayoko, William Carvalho never seems to have reached that top tier and Milinkovic-Savic has signed a new deal. I don't know whether a left field option like Idrissa Gueye would do a job until someone of a higher tier comes to the fore.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 13:30:41
When he returned to Chelsea and I watched him a couple of times I had 3 thoughts:
1. This guy is an absolute beast, he's strong, can tackle, good passer, got the lot
2. Why the hell didn't we go for him as he's exactly what we needed (at that time)
3. I like Serbians named Nemanja

Now we arguably need that player even more, but I'm not sure if Matic is the same player now as he was 2-3 years ago. Maybe Chelsea's form 2 seasons ago and Kante's presence 1 season ago wasn't flattering for him.

If we do sign him there's no doubt he'd improve our team.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 13:30:47
A proven Expert In his role. A great signing imo.
Proven with the coach.
Would not be my first choice but i don't pick the team.
He is highly effective and very low risk. A near perfect signing in many ways.


5.) 22 Jun 2017 13:32:14
I think he's a really good player. Good in the tackle, strong, excellent positionally and very reliable and consistent. Ok, he's maybe not the name that everyone is looking for but I reckon he would really anchor himself in that defensive position which would free up Pogba more to go rampaging. I think it would take some pressure off Pogba as well. A good addition in my opinion.


6.) 22 Jun 2017 13:43:01
Probably a better option than fabinho.


7.) 22 Jun 2017 13:47:24
Certainly an upgrade on felaini.


8.) 22 Jun 2017 13:58:18
I'd be delighted with Matic. Except what our midfield needs. Fabinho would also be a great addition on top of Matic as he came share right back duties too.

{Ed004's Note - Fabinho is also a very good penalty taker. I think his record is 15 out of 16 for Monaco. I watched quite a few games of Monaco this year but I can't remember if Fabinho is in any way dominant in the air or not. Specifically for set pieces. The majority of signings we have been linked with this season are all tall players who are also good on the ball. We are definitely building a very strong physical side}


9.) 22 Jun 2017 14:11:34
I think he would be an ideal signing. He knows the EPL and he knows Jose, he would need no "bedding in" time and he fullfills a need in our squad.

I don't get the he's Chelsea's cast off. No one said that about Makelele when he left Real Madrid to join Chelsea. And how many of us would love the Barcelona and Arsenal cast off Alexis Sanchez?

Magic was a big player for Chelsea in winning the league under Jose, and he has done a fine job under Conte. But the systems used by Jose and Conte are very different. Matic's main weakness is his lack of mobility, that was mostly covered by Kante last season. Conte's system with three centre backs needs more mobility in midfield and has less of a need for a midfielder to sit in front of the defence to cover them. Therefore Matic's key skills are less needed and his weaknesses more of an issue.

That is why Chelsea are prepared to let him leave.

Anyone we sign from outside the league runs a risk of not adapting to the nature of the EPL or English culture. Sir Alex always preferred to sign proven players from within the EPL. Out of all the DM's we have been linked with Matic and Dier are the only ones with EPL experience. As much as I like Dier, Matic is the better player.


10.) 22 Jun 2017 14:19:33
Ken hit the nail on the head there with the low risk comment.

Although Matic may not be as youthful as some and may have already peaked - he is very low risk because he knows the prem (big hurdle for a lot of new players) and he knows Jose.


11.) 22 Jun 2017 14:49:22
We need to be catching Chelsea, not taking players they are happy to offload. I have the same feelings about Willian.

Good players, but they are not going to lift us enough, big money transfers, big wages, therefore assured first team starters if we do sign them and really both have dropped off significantly in recent time.

We need to be looking at the level above Matic, especially as he has been off colour for quite some time now. Unnecessary and expensive gamble.


12.) 22 Jun 2017 14:52:42
Shappy - Sanchez is not an Arsenal cast off and everyone knew Makele was class, Madrid just have a a history of signing too many top class players for the same position - which means now and again you can pick one up for a decent price. (NOT MORATA, definitely NOT MORATA) .

Bakayoko is who we should be going for if we are building for the future. Failing that go back for Vidal if we want somebody to energise the midfield. A midfield of Herrera, Pogba and Vidal would be phenomenal.


13.) 22 Jun 2017 15:30:10
Beast,

I think the Vidal ship sailed along time ago. Personally I'd prefer to sign someone younger as he will cost a bomb.
We should have tried to sign him a few years ago. A top player.


14.) 22 Jun 2017 16:28:01
Matic is a proven winner he has not been off colour at all, beast he is 28. Perhaps jose rates him higher than bakayoko.


15.) 22 Jun 2017 16:47:00
Was Matic not involved with the Mourinho / Chelsea implosion? Was Matic not made the fall guy in it? Mourinho / Matic relationship is not 100%. Not sure you want to bring that into the dressing room.


16.) 22 Jun 2017 16:51:28
Reading the s*n again red dub?


17.) 22 Jun 2017 17:12:34
I remember one of the eds posts/ replies re- Fabinho and his defensive abilities: it could be a square peg / round hole situation as we need a dm.
Matic might not be the galactico but he'll hit the ground running and does his job really well: also reckon the fee might be favourable/ value for money.


18.) 22 Jun 2017 17:49:22
Beast, how do you know Bakayoko will be a success in England, he has 18 months of playing well under his belt in Ligue 1. There are no guarantees he'll do well at Chelsea.

As I have stated Chelsea are prepared to offload Matic not because they don't rate him, but because his specific skill set isn't what the manager believes he wants/ needs.


19.) 22 Jun 2017 18:35:13
No guarantees of course. I just like him and think he will be a great signing, short and long term. I know a lot more about Matic like most of us, why would we sign a player no longer needed by a rival that has been performing below their best for a while? It would be like signing Fernando from City.

I get it that he is proven in the league, but countless players arrive and do well without being proven in the league. Don't get me wrong he will improve us a bit still, but not enough and I'd rather roll the dice on somebody I prefer. Matic is a roll of the dice as well, he could very easily be a Schneiderlin or Schweiny.

I wouldn't be too bothered about signing him, much better out there now and most importantly if Chelsea don't want him then neither should we.


20.) 22 Jun 2017 18:35:44
We don't need that skill-set either.


21.) 22 Jun 2017 19:27:50
Beast, I think we definitely do need that skill set.

Herrera simply has too much to do in midfield and a player like Matic would allow Herrera to channel his energy in more offensive work, and Pogba needs someone reliable behind him so he can effect the game in the final third, and because he can't track back to save his life.

Whether it's Matic or not we definitely need someone who breaks up play and gives the ball to a team mate quickly.


22.) 22 Jun 2017 20:06:05
We don't need a slow sitter breaking up play, we need another like Herrera imo in an ideal world. Read the game, energy, good on the ball, tackles, all rounder. We have 5 men marking 1 attacker most games, rarely do we need an extra man sitting deep.

We have Fellani and Carrick to do that if we have to, but we would be much better spending our money on a Vidal type rather than a Matic type imo.

Just not bothered about Matic, be another 7/ 10 player - too many of them.


23.) 22 Jun 2017 20:27:48
What does beast need to do to get a top management job? If his name was mejor he'd have won a champions league by now.


24.) 22 Jun 2017 20:27:59
beats

not like you to criticize anything we do:) how many times have you watched bakayouko? just curious and wonder if you ever noticed he is a poor passer and loses the ball a lot. someone should pull up some stats as i don't know where to find it.


25.) 22 Jun 2017 21:16:00
Beast, it's a team game. You don't want a several people doing the same job. We have Herrera as someone to buzz around and busy in the middle, we have Pogba as that midfielder who can step out of midfield and join the attack, what we need is someone sitting deeper dictating play and shielding the defence. Someone who will allow our fullbacks to push forward a bit more.

Matic does that, he might not be the player to score you the winning goal, but he is the keystone of the side that allows everyone else to play to their potential.


26.) 22 Jun 2017 23:11:49
Beast, Jose feels we need someone with that skill set. Ultimately it's down to him who we go for.

I think Matic would make an excellent signing, he was awesome for Chelsea in Jose's first season back and one of the key reasons behind them winning the league. Unfortunately he along with nearly everyone else struggled in Jose's second season. A lot of that was to do with burn out and bring under prepared. The lack of fitness of the squad highlighted Matic's lack of mobility and pace. He got slated and lost a little confidence. Toward the end of the season he started to play better again. This season he has played extremely well again and helped Chelsea to the title again.

Conte would ideally like someone more mobile to play alongside Kante as he has extra cover for the defence by having three centre backs.

Bakayoko suits what Conte wants better than Matic.

We on the other hand have Herrera and Pogba who both like to roam and have more freedom. So in order to allow them that we need someone who's happy to sit in the middle and not go galavanting about the pitch and leave big hopes behind him. Matic is more suited to that.

As a side note I have high hopes for TFM in that midfield role, so signing someone who is in their peak and will be able to show a youngster what is expected but not be around for 5+ years blocking their path would be ideal. Matic also ticks that box.


27.) 22 Jun 2017 23:32:07
I have a feeling we're getting both. That would mean those two, Pogba, Captain Herrara and Carrick into three. With injuries and games that looks good in there - fellahin I to leave, Carrick to leave next year with tfm or tuanzebe taking his place in the squad.


 

 

01 Jun 2017 10:36:38
Hi Ed - do you think that with Ath Madrid having their transfer ban upheld, this will have any issues in us being able to get Griezemann? Surely if they can't buy, they can't afford to sell one of their assets?

gmartin8

{Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}


1.) 01 Jun 2017 15:31:00
Yes ed has already said he expects him to stay one more year, unless we pay way over the odds.


2.) 01 Jun 2017 17:25:11
With the AM ban still being in place and expectations of greizmann staying, does anyone else think that this might be a blessing in disguise, remembering the info that chelsea stepped back and his constant messing . We may have had a hand to dodge a Di Maria type bullett.


 

 

 

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09 Nov 2017 06:20:51
There is absolutely no way this will happen. Beckham is trying to set up a franchise in MLS. His time is invested there.

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24 Aug 2017 09:57:37
Not really that big a deal that he has moved out. Might be that he is buying a new house? Jose was living in a hotel all last year, as far as I am led to believe, he is still staying in a hotel.

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17 Jul 2017 13:56:56
GDS2 - Sorry, what have I missed and where is it?

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17 Jul 2017 12:53:25
Toni Kroos won't come mate. Best chance we had was a few years ago before he moved to Mardid.

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06 Jul 2017 11:18:08
Not convinced this is a good signing. Yes, he scores goals, but for that kind of money, I would be trying to get a Lewdowski, an all round striker. Can't help but feel that Jose isn't happy with the transfer activity, rocked the boat, and we are going to end up with Lukaku.

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20 Jul 2017 12:47:58
I totally wish we had got Kante last year. Pogba seems to have his best games for France, purely because the midfield allow him to go and do what he wants. I read this morning that PSG could be looking to offload Matuidi. I reckon although we are being linked with Verratti, I think he will stay and we will end up with someone like Matuidi - who is probably our 4th or 5th choice.

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