Manchester United Banter Archive January 11 2018

 

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11 Jan 2018 21:43:34
Would our alleged offer for Sanchez, including Miki. does it suggest we are not after Ozil. I would have thought deal involving Miki is more like for like with Ozil, if that makes sense.

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11 Jan 2018 21:49:03
Offer them 40 mil and miki for both, best offer they'll get. Seriously though, imagine the boost those 2 could give us. Amazing.

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11 Jan 2018 21:42:40
Sanchez would be a great signings for a plethora of reasons all stated here. However, does anyone think we have thrown our name in the hat to just take the piss out of City and see them paying over the odds?

Also, I'd like to see £75mill plus mkhitaryan for Ozil and Sanchez! I know that is a FIFA 18 transfer but one can dream.

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12 Jan 2018 00:29:36
If we have thrown our hat in the ring, then it would be a negative thing if he ends up leaving for City. I don't see the logic of showing the world we are second choice, much better to say that we were not interested (or nothing) if that is the case.

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11 Jan 2018 20:34:14
If it is indeed true that both City and United are in for Sanchez it will be very interesting to see how the saga turns out. Less than 10 years ago it was a no brainer, when United came calling you signed up.

As for Sanchez himself he is at an age were he would like to be playing every week and the competition at City is a lot tougher than United for those spots which would be another reason to join United.

Finally financially both clubs would be able to offer the same package, so there should be no real problems in that area. Yes he may get a PL title this year at City but is that guaranteed for the lifespan of his contract? Both clubs in my opinion should be vying for titles each year.

It will give an interesting indication as to whether the noisy neighbours have now taken over the street.

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11 Jan 2018 21:22:07
If citeh sign Sanchez, that won't mean they've taken over. They need about another 20 Premier League titles, a few Champions League titles, a few Fa Cups, and few League cups. Give your head a wobble.

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11 Jan 2018 21:24:54
This has agents/ Arsenal written all over it to get the most cash in this window or he goes for zip. He is a class act but I think we all ready have Ozil so this Sanchez story may be a smoke screen 😆😆.

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11 Jan 2018 21:32:48
City have taken over already. 5 years ago when both teams were after the same player City was the preference, now it's virtually guaranteed that City would be chosen over Utd.

They have a better squad of players, a better manager, more stylish/ enjoyable football. The only players choosing City of Utd are those that have Utd in their heart or something other than a better career path being their priority.

This isn't an Anti-Utd post it's just stating things as I see them unfortunately. Football is very short term now, harking back to previous years is pointless. We have to accept City are a better proposition, but hopefully we can get back to where we belong, it's a hard slog though as we seem to be falling further behind imo.

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11 Jan 2018 22:27:46
Beast,

Wasn’t it 5 years ago we took RVP from under their blue noses?

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11 Jan 2018 22:38:41
I would postulate our global reach is only comparable to that of Real and Barcelona. Therefore, for any player with plans to market themselves worldwide (which sadly I imagine is a most of the top players), we are still an attractive proposition.

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11 Jan 2018 22:59:08
"We're all doomed"- I blame Private Frazer 😆😆.

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11 Jan 2018 23:06:30
It's obvious that we've fallen further behind City, but the good side is that we may have moved ahead of all the others. If that's the case then we should be able to attract decent enough players to move ahead. The way things are right now, though all other conditions being equal, City and Pep will be a more attractive proposition.

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12 Jan 2018 00:05:58
City are 18 years away from where we are.

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12 Jan 2018 00:31:18
GDS2 - one example (probably more to do with SAF than anything else) . Are you saying my point is wrong, or are you just nit picking for the crack!

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12 Jan 2018 00:32:17
Oh and RVP was 6 years ago I believe, hah.

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12 Jan 2018 01:47:43
RVP was a short term purchase who had one good season for us. I would rather we'd bought someone like Silva. The only reason it was a good transfer was because SAF managed to make it work but it left the team with a conflict between RVP and Rooney when Moyes took over, and a midfield populated by top stars like Cleverley.

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12 Jan 2018 07:58:03
Good post Shawthing, did we not step back from signing lewandowski to sign RVP? I would have rather signed Lewandowski. He has kept banging them in season after season where as RVP had one good season, got moody went off the boil and disappeared over the horizon.

Haven’t we seen a lot of criticism of short term/ stop gap signings on this site? That is exactly what RVP was. Quality player, but more known for long spells out injured.

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12 Jan 2018 08:02:56
Modern players do not care about club history and how many trophies you have won. They care about the here and now. What’s the climate like, how much will I get paid, what sort of tax dodges are available and lastly what’s the style of play/ whose the manager.

On that basis, utd and city are tied on climate, cites have far far deeper oil lined pockets than we have, can’t comment on the tax dodges available, their style of play is light years ahead and their manager is not known for being grumpy and criticising his player in the media.

Unfortunately I think we are second choice for most modern players.

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12 Jan 2018 08:32:53
Isn’t Sanchez a united fan growing up?

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11 Jan 2018 14:21:52
Leander Dendoncker available for £22-25m?

Bargain I'd say, sign him up!

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11 Jan 2018 14:46:20
How many free coins have you on fifa ron.

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11 Jan 2018 14:39:43
Didn’t know you liked him Ronnie. Should of said.

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11 Jan 2018 14:59:40
We could do worse, but not to immediately be first choice. If he can accept being part of the squad and fighting for an opportunity then yes.

Oh and as long as he doesn't block Mctominay's progress - I've been impressed with what I have seen of him so far.

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{Ed002's Note - He is a player that Mourinho wanted at Chelsea.}

11 Jan 2018 15:53:55
Would be a good signing to replace Fellaini.

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11 Jan 2018 16:52:43
I agree McTominay is doing well, but then so is Matić too!

I think it's all agreed we still need 'another' player to play that position too?

Dendoncker is the guy for the job! His versatility will be useful aswell!

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{Ed002's Note - DEndoncker is not available at anything like that price Ronnie.}

11 Jan 2018 17:26:40
I'm just going with the reports I've been seeing Ed? And £25m is the round about price being quoted? Sorry if it's wrong!

Ronnie.

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11 Jan 2018 20:58:32
Put a post on the teams page lads. Have a look at it and tell me what you all think?

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11 Jan 2018 13:52:33
Just now a couple of "journalists" have come out and said we've bid for Alexis. I don't know if it's true or not but do you guys think that some of these guys might be paid by betting agencies to post such rumours. Not all but maybe some of these so that the betting companies can make profit. Food reviewers do this a lot. If you're a mid level reviewer then restaurants call you and invite you for free food or maybe deliver it to you for good reviews. When you get to a higher level they offer you money instead. Same could go with transfers as well. If someone has got a large following on twitter and is usually well aware about these transfers, then these betting sites might be paying them to just throw in a name every now and then. Clubs usually don't deny transfer rumours (just look at the number of players linked with united every season ) so the journo's reputation remains intact.

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11 Jan 2018 14:01:59
You made some good points. But probably not, Arsenal are probably releasing the info to get a little more £ from Man City.

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11 Jan 2018 14:26:07
sailor,

Betting sites don't need to do it mate, the press make enough stuff up for them to get plenty of money from silly punters.

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11 Jan 2018 14:43:03
Be interested to get Ed02's take on the potential transfer and whether there's any truth to it and liklihood to it happening.

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{Ed002's Note - On the basis of something that was discussed this morning, it seems likely that Manchester United are showing an interest in Sanchez but it is unlikely to be a straight cash offer they are putting forward.

As to whether it would happen, wages might be one issue and Sanchez is looking to leave to win championships etc.. Manchester City are better placed to offer a solution to both of those issues.}

11 Jan 2018 15:16:58
Thanks ed.

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11 Jan 2018 15:58:53
Sailor

The " journalists" u are mentioning include gianluca Di Marzio, the most well connected, known and reliable journalist in Europe. Gives Ed002 a run for his money on inside knowledge.

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11 Jan 2018 16:01:27
It’s all rigged if you ask me. United are in talk with so and so, bookies odds plummet to 1/10, people lump on, and low and behind two days later the odds are back to 10/1 and nothing else is said. I don’t understand how they get away with manipulating the market.

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11 Jan 2018 16:42:58
GDS I believe that newspapers have lost their credibility when it comes to transfers. They are making up connections just to fill up the pages. And everyone realizes that. But when some well known journo makes such comments then everyone takes notice and in this internet age it reaches to you before the papers. I'm just saying there might be a possibility that some of them might be doing that.
Ed thanks for the info.

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11 Jan 2018 17:00:38
Its probably another woody cockup. Joses said get me that guy from arsenal meaning ozil and woodys bid for Sanchez.

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11 Jan 2018 18:00:27
Love it Mort . You must of read my mind 😆😆.

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11 Jan 2018 18:41:51
I imagine woody going shopping is like a certain sketch by the 2 ronnies.

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11 Jan 2018 20:02:46
I don't get it the ed just said today a few lines above utd have shown an interest, then comments about iffy reporters and betting companies making things up.

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11 Jan 2018 03:58:33
Couple of questions if I may;

As things stand now are we generally happy we got Lukaku rather than Morata (as we were apparently linked with both) . Both have flattered to deceive a bit for me but I think/ hope overall Lukaku was probably the better option.

Secondly, and i'm aware this is probably wishful thinking but I fancy Man Utd for the Champions league this year.
Mourinho knows how to get it done in European competition and will have no problems being 'pragmatic' in the knockout stages.

One of Madrid and PSG will go next phase (looks like Madrid on form) and PSG have previous for bottling it.

Everyone is lauding city and rightly so atm but they are playing for 4 trophies atm and a slip in form and a few injuries I feel has to happen.

Few other usual suspects around but not the great Barcelona team of the past etc etc. I dunno, just have a feeling. Mourinho probably knows the leage is done so could focus on it as he did last yr with the Europa.

So to summarise. we are definitely going to win the Champions League! (or go out to Sevilla on away goals. )

Laters.

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11 Jan 2018 11:39:36
1.) Yup
2.) Nope.

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