Manchester United Rumours Archive January 18 2020

18 Jan 2020 15:47:07
ED002,
Are United again being amateurish with the Bruno Fernandes deal?

{Ed002's Note - It depends whether they really want to sign him or look again at otehr AM options. If you end up negotiating from too far apart you are wasting your time. Or if you are looking to leverage the position where it is thought that the other club need the money and you low-ball the offer one can expect no more than a shrug.}

18 Jan 2020 16:05:53
Are United still using their transfer policy from the 90s because they think that the so called smaller clubs need the money, whilst forgetting that TV money has changed the transfer game.

18 Jan 2020 16:16:44
There's your answer. Joke.

18 Jan 2020 16:29:59
Thanks ED002. Sounds like both parties need to be more realistic.

{Ed002's Note - Why do Sporting need to change anything?}

18 Jan 2020 17:10:50
His value by Sporting is his value simple as that, don't like the value then leave it. Yeah haggle by up to a few million here and there, but your never going to be haggling over 10-20million no chance.

18 Jan 2020 17:24:35
Time wasting exercise. Then there's no more time to conclude other deals. Clever by the idiots in charge at our club.

18 Jan 2020 17:28:55
Absolute shambles, pay the fee or walk away! The club was willing to pay £50 mill for Fred! Something seriously wrong with the club transfer policy!

Salt to the wounds. Haaland just scored 4 goals on his debut.

18 Jan 2020 18:41:23
I'd forgot he has only signed a new contract. The ball is firmly in Sportings court.

I wonder if we will hear, there's no value in the transfer window this year.

{Ed002's Note - why is it in their court.}

18 Jan 2020 18:52:54
Shappy will be busy now writing his essay telling us the club are right to not be held to ransom and we can’t moan every time we don’t sign a player.
However the paper thin squad will be even weaker and I will have to continue to watch the utter crap the Lingard and Pereira produce.
We won’t splash the cash for Fernandes so who thinks we will pay more for Maddison or Grealish in the summer?
Mediocrity at its best.

18 Jan 2020 19:00:13
Think he means that sporting are firmly in charge and hold all the cards. He's right. Ed002 as alway you are 100% correct, we are amateurish in so many ways and I'm sure it's pitting off others from doing future business with us.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps the terminology was the issue.}

18 Jan 2020 19:35:32
As Ed002 has said previously, United fans have caused an issue in the past which have forced the club to change plans (Van Gaal) .

I'd imagine if we fail to land Fernandes, there would be a pretty big backlash from fans over the potential lack of additions which we clearly need.

He is the kind of player we really need and it shows how atrocious the scouting and judging of talent is at United that we were seem to value Fernandes lower than Fred.

18 Jan 2020 20:03:37
Ed002. I've been working 12hr nights.
My terminology was wrong. Do you see a deal still being done?

{Ed002's Note - It is dependent up Manchester United making an acceptable offer - if they do not wish to do that it will be difficult. If they put a sensible offer on the table something can be done. So the ball is in Manchester United’s court.}

19 Jan 2020 00:20:53
Seems to be some spin being leaked that we are only willing to offer what they feel spurs had accepted last year, plus a slight increase off back of good season.

With the income utd have, they are always going to get charged top dollar for any player they buy. It is part of the trickle down of money.

But in this circumstance, Sporting signed a new contract with the player. Which impacts his value. I think it is a pretty low risk transfer for a player that has the skills we need. Compared to some transfer values it is not outrageous to pay straight up $50m with $20m in reasonable add ons (international appearances, ucl qualification etc)

I hope they get it done. If no-one comes in at all it could have a negative impact across the club and supporters. This one signing could easily galvanise a top 4 push.

19 Jan 2020 08:48:51
I can see us offering an extra 2 million at half time v Liverpool when we are 3-0 down.

19 Jan 2020 12:39:08
Don’t blame Utd for backing off if it’s true that a fee was agreed then upped a few days later.
Fans moan if we get had over transfers then moan if we don’t pay top dollar, can’t win.

19 Jan 2020 13:59:05
Ed002 - Do you agree the Bruno clearly wants to leave? My understanding from my journalist friends is that he is. If so, I remember your point of view that if a player wants to leave (Pogba) then the club should be realistic in their expectations of the selling price. Surely, sporting can demand what they like and United fo that too for Pogba. Hopefully sense prevails but that is not a given whatsoever.

{Ed002's Note - why do you think Sporting are being unrealistic? They are dealing with amateurs.}

19 Jan 2020 14:15:37
The deal will get done - Man utd trying to save a few million - Sporting want to extract a few million more - but at end of day if reports are to believed the boy wants to come - patience.

19 Jan 2020 14:44:05
I own something, you want it, you pay my price however ridiculous it may seem to you and anyone else. It's up to you. Walk away if you don't like it. No skin of my nose.

19 Jan 2020 15:45:04
Ed002 - actually don’t know whether Sporting are unrealistic but it looks like there are not too many other clubs in it for them to really benefit. They are well within their rights not to sell for anything less than they value him but so are United with Pogba.

{Ed002's Note - Sure - let Pogba see his contract out. He has bveen great this year.}

19 Jan 2020 19:54:39
How does a club decide on what to bid for a player, is there a formula that takes into account age, current contract, desperation, marketing value etc?

{Ed002's Note - There is no formula or algorithm.}

20 Jan 2020 11:17:34
I read that united didn't want to play top dollar for Bruno because this would effect us going for Maddison and putting his price up too.

are united at risk of going foul on FFP? and is this impacting recent transfers?

{Ed002's Note - I would not expect Fernandes and Maddison and it is nothing to do with FFP.}

20 Jan 2020 11:32:31
grimisnotdead

united conduct a number generator on google when deciding what to offer.

20 Jan 2020 12:45:11
thanks ed.

18 Jan 2020 11:32:38
So it looks like we have triggered a two year extension for Eric Bailly. What's everyones thoughts on him - would be good to get the Eds perspective too. Came to the club and looked awesome.

injuries have obviously played a serious part in hampering his progress, but he now looks like a headless chicken when he plays. Can't work it out.

18 Jan 2020 12:01:33
Hopefully keeping him means rojo, jones and smalling are gone. Leave bailly tuanzebe lindelof and maguire. Happy enough if that's the case.

18 Jan 2020 12:07:52
First season he was brilliant. Great defender. Looked like a top CB. Injuries have hampered his progress.
If he can stay fit, he could work very well with Maguire.

If imagine he might end up getting sold in the near future.

18 Jan 2020 13:34:16
I think he deserves another chance.

Let him recover from the injury and give him another season but he needs a run of games.

18 Jan 2020 13:45:32
For me he was better first than Maguires up to now.

There definitely a play in him.

18 Jan 2020 13:47:12
I'd play him next to Harry M, when fit.