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29 Aug 2019 09:28:23
I've bee told pogba is pushing for 500,000 a week to stay at United and they are considering it.

This is also holding up the de gea deal.

Feel like its 1 step forward 2 steps back with this club and it is so annoying.

Anyway onto the game at the weekend, I see another difficult game but I think we will get over the line.

Have fun chaps.

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29 Aug 2019 10:25:37
He needs to be sold. His heart isn't in it. Ed002 has stated numerous times he wants go. If he left, the team can move on and stop babysitting him throughout games.

29 Aug 2019 15:38:21
I’d sell him even if it ‘weakens’ us in the short term. We’ve moved Lukaku and Sanchez on, that’s 2 gone, Pogba is the remaining one who seems to not want to be here. If the price is right, take it.

29 Aug 2019 20:32:24
I agree, let pogba go. £500,000 if true is a joke. Obviously there is no knowing if it is true or BS. Ed002 might have an inkling i guess but won't want to comment, which i don't blame him for when it comes to money.

I'd rather get rid of Pogba now, accept we have a huge battle on our hands this season if so, but be ready to recruit well in January or summer, with a cleaner slate having cleared out some of the big money problems, and some of the crap footballers we have been stuck with.

23 Aug 2019 10:17:25
A little confused by Ole's stance re Sanchez. Less than two weeks ago he was telling journalists that they would be surprised with how much he features this season and today he announces that the club are still actively trying to get rid of him. He needs to learn that sometimes it's best to say nothing.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation - it is about money and finding a taker. If that happens then he goes - but the club has to have the stomach to take a significant loss and his wages stay on the books. Ignore what OGS says.}

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23 Aug 2019 20:54:49
Redseven ole is full of crap in his press conferences. All managers are.
You could pick holes in any of their statements as they often contradict themselves week after week. In fact they often do it in the same conference.
Ignore the lot of them. Its all BS lapped up by the gullible.

23 Aug 2019 20:04:47
ED002,

I get the feeling that OGS is playing the role of good cop.

23 Aug 2019 21:46:24
Come on guys. Most of us think Sanchez need to leave including the manager and the club. Even if there is a player there, the fact Inter and Roma are in tells us what level he is at best. He’s passed it and it’s tine he left.

24 Aug 2019 11:22:16
Inter Milan are in the champions league. Not a bad level to be at.

24 Aug 2019 11:56:08
True that angel.

26 Aug 2019 15:37:26
It never ceases to amaze me how much faith and credence is put on what managers say to the media.

23 Aug 2019 01:35:51
Any updates on the whole De Gea situation?

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24 Aug 2019 14:47:18
Good question.

22 Aug 2019 15:37:40
Ed02 - keep reading stories about us being interested in Llorente on a free, any truth in this at all?

Guess it'd make a little bit of sense if Sanchez were to leave given our lack of options up top.

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it I am afraid.}

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15 Aug 2019 11:27:30
Ed002,

Is there anything new regarding Sanchez leaving?

Much appreciated!

{Ed002's Note - Roma were told he wants to stay in Manchester and have moved on.}

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15 Aug 2019 12:29:15
I'll imagine Sanchez will run his contract down.

15 Aug 2019 13:13:08
Thanks for the reply Ed.

Have a great day!

15 Aug 2019 16:13:43
Hatter that'll be the most effective running he manages in his time here.

15 Aug 2019 17:10:31
Mort,

Quality.

15 Aug 2019 19:20:05
Let’s see what happens. Hopefully OGS can get a tune out of him.

15 Aug 2019 21:33:30
Eric is Ole going to put a piano in the canteen?

16 Aug 2019 00:24:29
Let's give Sanchez a chance. He had a rubbish season last year but maybe I'd we get behind him he might turn things around. Let's be honest he was a really good player at Arsenal and most of us were delighted when he signed.

16 Aug 2019 07:09:19
Hrs had chances and he's only going to decline from here.

16 Aug 2019 07:24:01
Salford what has he done in a United shirt to warrant another chance?

Jesse is ahead of him and now arguably James and Greenwood too. James has already achieved 33% of what Sanchez has achieved. Difference is James did it in 20 minutes whereas Sanchez has had 18 months.

If he was serious about turning things around at United he should’ve pulled out of that international tournament to focus on his fitness and getting ready to claim his place in the team. But instead he came back injured and still isn’t match fit. You can’t keep giving chances to someone who isn’t willing to make it work for himself.

17 Aug 2019 19:54:42
At this stage, let Sanchez leave on a free looks like the best option for both parties, no?

17 Aug 2019 21:46:35
According to DiMarzio Inter have agreed terms with Sanchez but not yet with United.

18 Aug 2019 08:13:56
Widely reported that Inter are in the frame?

18 Aug 2019 14:34:32
@dev1l In Sanchez's case agreeing his salary is more difficult than agreeing deal with United.

18 Aug 2019 15:08:18
@midfield_maestro
The proposed agreement apparently consists of a loan move for 1 year and option to buy next season set at 15m. While on loan, United will have to pay part of Sanchez salary.
Depends a lot on the amount.

18 Aug 2019 20:00:50
How about they take him for free now with no £15m to pay next year. We don't pay any more wages and throw Rojo and Darmian in for free. Everyones a winner.

19 Aug 2019 10:49:58
If we've got to pay some of his wages he should stay and knuckle down. Paying anything for a player to play for someone else is just a joke if you ask me.

19 Aug 2019 13:13:37
Why is that Damon? We gave Sanchez a massive contract.

It makes financial sense to subsidise some of the wages if the player moves, as the club he pays for is paying a portion of the wages and we are no longer left with the burden of 100% of his salary.

It also gets him away from the first team so we've not got a miserable player dragging others down.

19 Aug 2019 16:04:27
Exactly. If he's having rows with people in training that's going to affect the atmosphere. Its best he goes. Hopefully he impresses enough for them to take up the option.

19 Aug 2019 16:27:50
Well if a player isn't playing for our club and for another team they should be paying his wages. Just shows how bad the club is run to pay ridiculous wages in the first place. hasn't Sanchez had his wages cut by 25% like everybody else? It does seem now though this summer we've taken a different approach and walked away from stupid deals.

20 Aug 2019 12:13:05
It's not as simple as that Damon. Sanchez has every right to see out the remaining years of his contract on full pay. If we can offload him, and negotiate a deal which costs the club less in the long term, that surely makes more sense than keeping a player on full salary who has no impact on the team.

14 Aug 2019 17:39:06
There is a rumour that Real Madrid might want to sent Luka Jovic on loan - maybe they already want to get rid of.
@Ed. (Assuming he can join us in the next transfer window) can you see Jovic alongside martial and rashford up front? Can it work?

{Ed004's Note - I cant see Jovic leaving so soon}

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15 Aug 2019 07:24:57
Better chance of getting zidane. Not a happy camp there. Zidane will be in his toes jose will come in and pogba will be reaching for his Italian phrase book again😂😂.

15 Aug 2019 08:50:21
It was actually reported a few weeks back that Perez was looking at jose and pogba woukdnt be part of the long term plan .
Things change in football.

15 Aug 2019 09:31:50
I untimely think that's why they never went for him jred.

15 Aug 2019 12:03:25
I think the 27m + James Rodriguez bid proved how little an appetite Real Madrid had for seriously pursuing Pogba.

The fact that they are now seriously exploring a deal for Neymar shows that the money is there if they really want a player. I think it also shows that the manager doesn't dictate the signings at Real Madrid.
In which case does it really matter how much Zidane wants Pogba, if other people at the club don't want him then he won't go there.

I think this summer was his real chance to go to Real Madrid. I think he might have missed it, unless he has a storming season this year and proves himself to be a "Galactico".

15 Aug 2019 12:43:31
And yet in the run up to deadline day people were pointing to Madrid as an example of how to do a rebuild. Now we're talking potential change of manager who probably won't like some of the players.

15 Aug 2019 13:18:44
Have madrid bought well?
I 100% like the direction we have taken this summer .
Keep reading pogba will sulk because he didn't get his move, but you have to wonder what move? Madrid seem to have put money on the table for hazard and neymar.
Juve put dybala on the table for lukaku .

15 Aug 2019 16:15:56
Just saying that's what a few people on here saying. That Madrid had identified players and moved quick to get them in and lamenting that we hadn't done the same. I think we had s good window. I'd have liked another midfielder to add depth but wasn't to be.

14 Aug 2019 13:23:39
Seen a few reports that Rojo's agent is at the training ground trying to arrange some sort of deal.
Also that Ole is possibly going to relegate Sanchez to the Reserves. Also reports that Ole really wants him gone from any influence on younger players even it means him going out on loan (Roma still interested) with us paying part of wages. Not ideal, but personally I think the time has come.
This may may well be a load of mushroom compost, but I thought I.

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14 Aug 2019 14:33:11
Hopefully this is true. We need to get them gone.

14 Aug 2019 15:21:55
Are the reports of Sanchez and Greenwood falling out true?

14 Aug 2019 15:45:27
Rumours that Sanchez got into a fight with Greenwood at training, that clearly is not going to help him at all. I really want him out of the club, caused a lot of troubles and didn't give anything in return to the club.

14 Aug 2019 16:02:26
I saw reports that Sanchez got angry with Greenwood because he challenged him in training. If so, that's not the attitude you want to help breed confidence in the youth.

14 Aug 2019 17:06:03
I hope it is true as it sends a message through the squad. The rumour is we are offering to pay some of his wages but still nobody wants him, even on loan.

We also need DDG to sign a contract to follow up Marrial and Rashford doing so.

14 Aug 2019 17:34:29
I want him as far away from the club as possible, he is done and dusted, has offered nothing so far, how the heck did the club get into this situation idk, some people here don't think Ole has what it takes to make it but if he gets rid of Rojo, Sanchez and have us playing very entertaining footy, he may well be the one who takes us back to challening, early days but i do like how he is setting the team to play and our average age, that's very important most of these players will flourish in 2,3 years.

14 Aug 2019 21:32:20
Sanchez has the ability to be great, maybe just give him the number 10 role, I think he could pick the holes we need against clubs.

14 Aug 2019 22:39:06
Report from the sun so it's most likely not true at all.

12 Aug 2019 20:23:08
Why is the narrative that we were "lucky" because Chelsea hit the post/ bar twice?

If we hit the post those same people would be call us unlucky. They would say it was a poor shot.

Why is a shot that hits the woodwork called unlucky while a shot that whistles just past the post is considered a shot off target therefore a poor shot?

If your shot isn't saved by the keeper and it doesn't go in then you missed. It doesn't matter if you missed by a yard or by a kick of paint. A miss is a miss.

We hit the woodwork 14 times last season, had all those shots gone in we would have won and extra 7 points and qualified for the UCL.

So we're we unlucky to not finish fourth or did we miss vital chances? It can't be one rule for us and another for our opponents.

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12 Aug 2019 20:35:04
Don’t try to apply logic to a Chelsea fan. Climate change is happening and it’s starting to effect the plastic fans.

12 Aug 2019 21:30:43
I'm just wondering what you had to do to get the stats on how many times we hit the woodwork and where we would've finished if they'd gone in.

12 Aug 2019 21:35:15
Technically snappy a shot that hits the Woodward is classed as off target.


Chelsea saying they were unlucky to mask the fact that they were easily beaten.

Get over it.

13 Aug 2019 00:09:09
According to some any shot that hits the Woodward is a pretty good shot Bolger.

13 Aug 2019 06:04:12
Pogba hit the post 7 times in his first season.

13 Aug 2019 07:08:34
Not saying you were lucky you won. I think most people would agree with me on that.
What I am saying is that the 4-0 flatters United as you struggled to create much of note, and with better finishing from us the match could've been a lot different. We didn't take our chances, and you guys did. That was the difference.

The unlucky part for us fans is that for all of our inexperience on (and off) the pitch, we were ultimately let down by our most experienced guy on the pitch. Azpi switched off twice, for your 2nd and 3rd goals. That was the real shame, for me at least.

You deserved to win as you took the chances you got. We didn't as we didn't finish ours. Simple as.

13 Aug 2019 08:28:56
Spot on that Shappy.

Jackson, "with better finishing from us the match could've been a lot different" and in other news if my Mum was male she'd be my Dad.


We were clinical, we took the chances that came our way. It's that simple. You can be lucky in the odd game winning by 1-0 but if you win 4-0 you fully deserve it, which I know you have already stated but some of the posts on the Chelsea page are laughable mate.

{Ed0333's Note - I don’t concur mate I thought Chelsea were wasteful and should of been 2 up before you scored. That wasn’t anywhere near a vintage performance from you’re lot and if you'd have played City, Liverpool, Spurs on that form you’d have been soundly dealt with. I didn’t see anything from United that worried me but I agree you did make the most of you’re chances.

13 Aug 2019 09:09:12
Okay, so I don't speak for most other Chelsea fans on these pages at least :p

But on other platforms most echo my sentiments. We were wasteful and defensive transition was bad. You were clinical indeed. That's mostly story of the match.

13 Aug 2019 12:23:13
@Jackson

I pretty much agree with your assessment. I think we were lucky to lead at Halftime. But the 2nd half i think tactically we were spot on and deserved to win based on converting our chances.

Good Luck for rest of the season mate.

13 Aug 2019 12:26:27
Shappy, given the scoreline we can't say that we were lucky to win it but you can't deny that we were certainly lucky not to concede. De Gea was beaten twice and had to rely on prayers that the ball not deviate inside of the post.

13 Aug 2019 12:36:29
Thanks, SH :) getting top 6 should be possible. Good luck to you, too. If you play up to your talent level it should be a good one for you guys!

13 Aug 2019 13:43:07
Last season, away at Barca, Rashford went through on goal in the opening minutes and hit the bar.

I genuinely believe that had that gone in we would have beat Barca. We had them on the ropes in the first leg, we were all over them and their defence was in bits.

But that didn't happen, we made silly mistakes at the back and Barcelona were clinical. After the game we were pummelled by the press.

The main difference being, Barcelona were applauded for their performance in winning 3-0, whereas we apparently got lucky against Chelsea winning 4-0.

13 Aug 2019 16:39:36
Dont put the ball in the net you don't score nothing to do with luck.

13 Aug 2019 16:42:04
If so, if that. If it was against Liverpool/ Spurs we would struggle, if Chelsea scored from their changes, then we would struggle. We would never know. The fact is, it was Chelsea, we scored from the chances we got, and won the game.

We didn't stop after 2-0 or 3-0 and kept going for more. There were a lot of positives about the way the team went about it in the 2nd half.

13 Aug 2019 19:51:17
My point is we scored 4, luck doesn't come into it when you score 4 unanswered goals. Yes Chelsea were wasteful and yes Dave saved a few but Chelsea not finishing isn't our problem and isn't your keeper supposed to make saves?


I thought Pogba was poor all game but then there are glimpses of the player you know he is, the ball for Rash over the top and the drive through midfield to set up DJ typifies him. For me he will worry teams and cause problems.


In Rash, Martial and Jesse we have players with pace who can run in behind and run the channels, this will also cause teams problems. I actually think we will be better suited to play against teams Like City, Liverpool and Spurs etc. Teams that will have a go and press high giving the pacey front 3 chance to stretch them at the other end, that's where Pogba will be very important for us with his vision, It's imperative he is motivated and he stays until replaced if we want to be top 4.


As for teams that will defend in compact blocks (that's where we will struggle) I think Maguire will become essential in bringing the ball out from the back and creating an overload in the middle. Can we break them down?

I thought we were poor at the back, great individually but we didn't defend well as a team, partly because Shaw was doubled up on for most of the game with Rash not really tracking back but I do think that will come.

City- I thought were phenomenal and are the team to beat again.

Liverpool- While good I thought Norwich created a few good chances, I have a feeling they can be got at this year. It's whether or not teams can outscore them.

Spurs- I thought ran out of ideas until Eriksen came on, he's important for them.

Arsenal- I really didn't see anything much from them, I thought Newcastle were always in the game (who looked very poor themselves) Auba is excellent and does what he always does.


All in all I'm excited, I'm enjoying watching us again which is amazing. I even got my Mrs cheering us on! I think we will surprise a few this year. I don't think we will be as far away as last year :)

13 Aug 2019 12:40:58
Ed I did reply to you mate, not sure if it's been lost somewhere.

{Ed0333's Note - not sure mate.

14 Aug 2019 09:27:04
Chelsea got done. Simple as that. Looking for ‘what ifs’ is just a waste of time. Going into a game against Liverpool tonight they need to think about team selection rather than hitting woodwork. Quick tip: play Kante in CDM. Simple. That centre back pairing was not up to it.

17 Aug 2019 20:49:48
this game reminded me of when we lost 3 nil to spurs having had 3 great chances to be 3 up, it happens from what i saw a 1nil utd would of been fair, but that's football chelsea were naive pushing for an equaliser and got caught out simple as.
I agree a city etc would of punished us but we will hopefully play better as the season goes on.

 


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