Manchester United rumours 3

02 Feb 2025 12:06:03
Dorgu deal complete. £30 million seems reasonable.

What strikes me most is he has scored 5 times in 57 games for a team that is 15th in serie A and have only scored 18 goals this season.

02 Feb 2025 19:37:53
Remember when we got another leftback in Telles… Porto’s top scorer at the time. What a shower of dross he was. Let’s hope the kid can settle quickly and add some balance to our shape.

02 Feb 2025 20:02:07
Telles might actually be decent in Amorim’s for action ?.

01 Feb 2025 14:00:59
Looks like Marcus off to Villa is a goer.

01 Feb 2025 18:01:49
Not sure about this one. Would rather he went abroad, guaranteed he will start scoring and playing well and help a team we need to catch up.

01 Feb 2025 18:55:39
Unfortunately we need him to go there and smash it if we want to get a decent fee, unless they are already discussing a commitment to buy fee. I think it is difficult to value him at the moment.

01 Feb 2025 19:01:35
Didn’t work out too well did it Marcus. Villa? Hardly Milan or Barca…probably actually found his level.

Does he know Villa players work their socks off? If he can’t be bothered to work for his hometown club, how will it work at Villla? I hope he does well as we need to sell him for a good price to fund the rebuild.

01 Feb 2025 19:02:36
Fallguy

Simply put, I'm so confident that you're utterly wrong that, if Marcus were to do better than his current 24/ 25 return of 214 mins per goal in all comps for Villa between now and the summer, I would ask for the Eds to change my name to whatever they like.

It ain't going to happen buddy.
Workrate and team ethic are very strong factors of Emery's style, which is why Rashford will look no better there than he does for United.

01 Feb 2025 19:13:51
Bottom line is that not many clubs wanted him. We move on no one player is ever bigger than our club.

01 Feb 2025 20:37:47
Ork- you could well be right. But it wouldn’t surprise me if he put in a real effort for the next few months to try and show United were in the wrong for letting him go. To then return back to his normal sulky lazy self once he’s signed a new contract with them for next season.

Although him signing permanently is unlikely in my opinion as I doubt he will be taking a pay cut anytime soon and no way Villa will pay £300k a week.

01 Feb 2025 23:04:17
Loan both clubs. Try before you buy. I don’t care where he goes, he just needs to move on now.

That being said, if Villa want to stump up with £30-35m, I say bite their hand off!

01 Feb 2025 23:28:46
I think it's a win win for villa. Allows them to really see if Rashford can be a longer term player for them. Meantime it covers Durans departure. If Rashford turns up they have a top striker for not a lot of money. If he doesn't no real harm done.

02 Feb 2025 09:15:21
70% wage contribution and £40m buyout fee.

Cheers, Villa! Win, win in my eyes.

If (big if), him, Rogers, Ramsey and Watkins click, they’ll be electric.

We save shed loads of wages on a player sitting in the stands and get £40m pure profit in the summer.

{Ed077's Note - is it an option or obligation to buy ?

02 Feb 2025 11:44:44
One thing I’m a little confused by is the Leon Bailey rumour? Not sure he’s what we need - that being said, we need to start buying players to suit a team, not a collection of individuals, and so if the recruitment twam and manager think he’s a good fit let’s see.

02 Feb 2025 11:58:37
Who cares where he goes. £365k a week off the wages.

Ta ra Marcus.

01 Feb 2025 11:02:32
Looks like Dorgu's private flight from Milan arrived Manchester 1056.

01 Feb 2025 12:04:34
Thanks for the update.

01 Feb 2025 12:35:03
There's a picture of him on the flight Ken, breath of fresh air.
No nose jewels, ear rings, bracelets, necklaces, badged clothing, and best of all, for me, not clutching a Louis Vuitton washbag. Just a very calm looking young professional footballer in a smart fleece jacket waving at the camera. Being only a 90 minute flight away from his family now can only be a help for him settling in. Listening to his coach, he can run all day and doesn't get injured.
Fingers crossed.

01 Feb 2025 13:59:53
And then he came to United.

01 Feb 2025 19:15:49
And when I posted Grim, I just knew it would only be a few minutes before someone said that. I just didn't think it best that I should say it!

03 Feb 2025 02:38:45
De Ligt came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish.
Zirkzee came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish
Hojlund came without flashy stuff/ earrings etc - he is still rubbish

This is the dumbest statement I have read on this site and I have been visiting for years.

You need to focus on how a player performs, not what they are wearing. The short-sightedness of you united fans is genuinely shocking.

03 Feb 2025 05:08:51
in addition to this - players should not be scrutinised for what they are wearing, what they drive or the jewellery they have on. they should be able to spend the money they earn how they see fit. i am assuming that your gripe is with how rashford acted/ how he dressed/ who he hung out with. he is entitled to act how he wants in his private life, it is not his fault your club decided he was worth 350k a week. what do you expect he should be doing with all his money - unselfishly helping out poor/ disadvantaged kids? oh wait.

10 Feb 2025 18:31:21
Endo when he spends his money on nights out on the p*ss in another country and fails to turn up training its an issue for the club. When he is out late when not supposed to be its an issue. I don't care what he wears or how he looks as long as it direct bring him into disrepute. I don't care if he goes to the states on his week off. But if he doesn't train properly then he needs to go. If he plays crap for 18 months then he has to go.
Same for players at your club or any other club. Appreciate your input though.

29 Jan 2025 23:23:57
What about Jonathan David from Lille. Anyone heard any potential interest from Utd bearing in mind he is out of contract in the summer so should be relatively cheap this transfer wundow.

30 Jan 2025 12:43:55
They were debating him on MOTD last night. Supposedly not ready for a top side was the consensus, which we're not, but he will be available free come the end of the season and therefore maybe on the cheap for a few days so maybe a good option for someone.

30 Jan 2025 14:47:38
He is another one of those players that seems to get a lot of mention in the transfer window and we get linked to as a slightly cheaper option who scores a good amount of goals. For some reason nothing from any team ever comes close to him leaving which suggests he is either happy where he is or teams do not think he will make the step up.

Not sure what the truth is but with our current forward line I would be willing to take a punt on him.

30 Jan 2025 15:33:28
Can he put the ball in the onion bag?

30 Jan 2025 15:36:34
The latest Media Mumbles about us involve Mathys Tel, 19yo, Bayern Munich forward who wants away for more game time. His stats this season are a virtual flatline.
I know bringing on our Academy/ u21's has been done to death over the past week or so but has anyone seen the highlights of the u21's v Oldham last night? 5-0, all in the second half and quite easily could have been 8.
Obi was everywhere, same for Kone - the whole team running their tripes out for each other the whole 90.
I hope RA gives one or two of them the last ten minutes towards the end of the season.
Whatever, but on last nights showing, the future looks bright.

30 Jan 2025 17:07:38
I think a few of us hoped that Ten Hag would look to the academy, but it never happened. Hopefully Amorim will take a different approach.

30 Jan 2025 20:12:15
Grim

Collyer, Mainoo, Garnacho all came from there and were promoted by ETH. I mean that's pretty decent going if you ask me. I think it's a case of players in the academy not being ready. Amorim has been here for months and hasn't promoted one yet.

30 Jan 2025 22:27:14
Tel off to Spurs apparently NTTL.

31 Jan 2025 09:30:02
I think we need an experienced striker loan if possible. Getting another youngster in on loan, when we have plenty already seems pointless.

31 Jan 2025 11:43:54
I wouldn't be against signing Jonathan David, I think he's a good player who could potentially fit into a couple of positions in Amorim's system.

However, I'd only want him signed if he was a genuine target based on his skill set and with a specific role in the team in mind. I don't want us to sign square pegs for round holes just because they are cheap or available.

31 Jan 2025 12:37:40
. read Zirkzee.

29 Jan 2025 21:16:09
So, I have mate that's in marketing in London. he has heard rumours about Rashford that might hit tabloids soon. don't shoot the messenger

"Heard rumours Rashford got an addiction to sleeping pills and gambling and has turned up to training pissed. Borrowed 4million off Kyle Walker apparently! "


Hmmmm.

29 Jan 2025 22:01:14
Allegedly is the word you might want to use.

29 Jan 2025 23:22:34
Not the first time I've heard these allegations. Well the borrowing money part I hadn't but the rest has been mentioned a few places.
Never know what to believe these days.

29 Jan 2025 23:34:29
Interesting you say this. I was chatting to some people involved with a football club, not United, an month or two ago and they said the chat around the football world is Rashford owes a lot of money to people off the back of gambling. Nothing said about sleeping tablets. I hope the truth is he’s a lazy so and so but seems he has distractions. I want him out the club and I think he needs it, but if these rumours are true I hope he can get the right support and I do think he needs that away from the Manchester United spotlight.

30 Jan 2025 04:40:05
Given the effort he has put in recently he owes the fanbase a lot as well!

30 Jan 2025 09:06:26
If any of that is true we aren't going to get rid of him. If he isn't wanted elsewhere now just imagine how his rating will be if this becomes public knowledge.

30 Jan 2025 10:49:41
Yes heard all of this also but didn’t really want to spread it as it’s likely some misinformation, his performances and general attitude over the last couple of years do look like he was the weight of the world on his shoulders though so none of it would be a huge surprise.

30 Jan 2025 12:00:42
If I turned up for work pissed or didn’t try Iwould be in breach of contract. My salary would not be paid during suspension and I might be fired. Sack him. Save£30 million. No one will pay a big fee for him.
But, rumours may well be BS. As they usually are . Wouldn’t think Kyle Walker had a spare £4 mill with all his matrimonial and paternity issues!

30 Jan 2025 12:22:53
Might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's illegal to gamble in Saudi Arabia, so that, providing there's any truth to those rumours, might be the real reason he doesn't want to go there.

Perhaps the apparent risk of him gambling underground and owing money to people who might have greater propensity for damaging the odd leg of individuals who 'disrespect' them would appear as rather a large risk that's very much worth avoiding.

30 Jan 2025 12:32:40
its one thing taking the sleeping pills for his own use its another thing entirely passing them round the dressing room 20 mins before kick off .

30 Jan 2025 14:38:43
There are plenty of illegal things in Saudi that are far less illegal for star footballers that agree to move there. My understanding is that Rashford wants to prove that he can win at a top European club. He believes that playing for united is holding him back.

30 Jan 2025 14:45:58
???.

30 Jan 2025 15:35:32
Rashford stoned on sleeping pills would explain his performances for the last two seasons.

30 Jan 2025 15:36:26
Bloody brilliant rumour by the way. Just what this site was created for. Can't believe you didn't share it GDS2 if you heard it before.

30 Jan 2025 17:27:29
Sleeping pill addiction has been prevalent in football for a number of years and affects lots of players.

With Rashford it could be just burnout, he has been playing in the first team since 18, over 400 games, 60 for England and under constant scrutiny. We all have our breaking point, maybe he has reached his.

Sometimes we just need to have a change to rediscover our motivation and be happy. I hope his does move on and discovers his love for football again.

30 Jan 2025 23:19:45
MancMan,

You’re right, I probably should have but it didn’t come from anyone particularly reliable and I’m not sure spreading misinformation helps this situation massively.

31 Jan 2025 07:41:54
Fair enough GDS2. it is a rumour though and this is a rumour site.

Now I'm wondering what other gossip is being held back ?.

31 Jan 2025 11:47:30
Who knows what goes on behind closed doors.

What is clear is that Amorim has set a minimum standard that players need to reach to be considered for the first team. For whatever reason Rashford isn't meeting that standard.

Amorim has praised Rashford's quality and has said that if he meets the standards then he will be considered for selection again.

The balls in his court. Either he bucks up or he ships out. Either way it'll be the right decision for our club.

29 Jan 2025 11:52:55
I see Luke shaw has come out of his semi-retirement again. its almost as if we've just signed a new player to take his position!

29 Jan 2025 12:26:03
Feel for him. Shaw and Mount would add so much to this formation. Sadly both are made from papier maché.

29 Jan 2025 16:58:21
No sympathy for Shaw. He’s happy to play with injuries for England, even if it results in him being out for months at club level. Obvious where his loyalties lie and it’s not with the club paying him £150,000 every week. He has no desire to play for the club.

Mount is different, he wants to play, and you could see how gutted he was when the last injury happened.

29 Jan 2025 20:40:42
You couldn't make it up. Hasn't played a full game for us in over a year, we're about to sign a young lb and he's back! I'm sure something similar happened when we signed malacia.

If by some miracle happens and he gets back in the team I hope he's used a cb and let the young lad grow and develop.

29 Jan 2025 21:09:20
He's back until the next mild breath of wind turns his ankle.

29 Jan 2025 22:15:36
If Shaw stays fit he will make a huge difference to the way we play.

30 Jan 2025 09:08:05
And if my aunty.

30 Jan 2025 20:57:37
True though, Fizz. Shaw, with his engine and attacking abilities, would be made for the LWB position if he could stay fit.

28 Jan 2025 14:27:51
Looks like Dorgu could be in.
Lecce's newspaper saying 35m Euros with 5 more as addons. 2m salary rising to 3m.
(He had a 4/ 10 game last weekend according to the Italian press. )
And the rumour I posted a could of days ago has developed somewhat. Ayden Heaven has apparently agreed terms for his move from Arsenal.

28 Jan 2025 17:24:23
Seems the United tax on players is alive and well then.

28 Jan 2025 20:26:53
He follows the obvious new strategy try and bring in younger players with a lot of potential.

Under INEOS we have signed:

Mazraoui (26), MdL (25), Zirkzee (23), Ugarte (23), Yoro (18), Sekou Kone (18), Chido Obi-Martin (17), Samuel Lusale (17), Diego Leon (17), Ayden Heaven (18) and now Patrick Dorgu (20).

That's 11 signings under the new regime, 7 of them are 20 or younger.

Add that to some of the other talented young players we already had in the first team squad (Mainoo, Garnacho, Amad, Højlund, Collyer) .

Along with an academy with a super talented record breaking group of players that could be looking to break into the first team over the next few years.

28 Jan 2025 21:42:46
At some point along the line they forgot to add any actual quality for the now.

28 Jan 2025 23:22:53
Last weekend they played Inter and Dorgu was good, arguably their best player. But they got beat proper by a vastly superior side so difficult to judge. It is the game before that which he was poor.

29 Jan 2025 00:19:18
Spenno,

Our CEO has explained the plan and what they are aiming to build towards, seems like with the signings we are making now that we are moving away from the silly expensive players on daft wages and getting players in with better attitudes.

29 Jan 2025 02:20:41
GDS2, I all know that, but I also know none of those signings are going to be remembered for very long.

29 Jan 2025 07:22:29
Shappy, its the best. Also easier to mould the players, get them all singing of the same hymn sheet. Also allows a better sell on possibility should they not work out. Very positive.

29 Jan 2025 08:31:17
We clearly overpaid for dorgu, but at least his reported wage is a good deal.

29 Jan 2025 09:41:32
According to Fav it's €30 mill with €5 mill in not guaranteed add ons. 6ft 1 and supposedly rapidly, with an unreal engine. Will it work out who knows but seems a far more reasonable expenditure than some of our deals in the past. Now it's whether Rash or Garnacho goes as to if anyone else comes in, I think.

29 Jan 2025 09:42:13
spenno that's a bit too pessimistic. there are some very good players in that list and, with their age profile and salaries, if they don't work out we're likely to be able to recoup the majority of our outlay. that's a considerable improvement.

26 Jan 2025 17:11:19
That's it, I take it back.

Apparently, Antony did the 'Anturney' during his unveiling - what a jackass!

Stay gone fool!

26 Jan 2025 18:58:41
And the so called wise people in charge thought he was worth 85m. We the club is a laughing stock.

27 Jan 2025 07:21:13
Hope he finds his feet and confidence again. Terrible piece of business for the club, not up to it but it's been a mess for most players coming into this club in recent years.

Hope he does well at Betis.

27 Jan 2025 08:48:43
Hoyland, an equally bad bit of business.

27 Jan 2025 11:15:05
Porsche, we went 75m quid in on a 20 year old who had never done anything to be our leading man. He has all the attributes but one who carries the weight of the world.

Terrible business, but I don't think he is a terrible player. Too much, way too soon for him.

The club royally messed him and the situation up.

27 Jan 2025 14:15:21
Agreed. Hojlund has great promise but he's not ready to lead the line now. He could do great with a loan. It's not that dissimilar to Evan Ferguson of Brighton. Getting Zirkzee in during the summer rather than a no.9 was a huge error. Zirkzee isn't the problem, but he's not the answer to the problem either. Maybe try for Delap or even Wissa and share the load with Hojlund and see if that works.

27 Jan 2025 15:38:15
he doesn't seem to have a strikers instinct- can't hold the ball up either for a big lad - has no aerial threat either.

27 Jan 2025 16:41:58
Reveal video was a work of art though

Real Betis’ Twin Peaks referenced announcement for Antony
byu/PradipJayakumar insoccer

28 Jan 2025 08:59:15
WTF ???.

28 Jan 2025 09:33:36
Kane was the ultimate target, Hojlund the understudy. We ended up just with the understudy, nowhere near the ready and with no-one to look up to. Awful planning.

28 Jan 2025 12:57:03
Spenno

No awful planning. kane is on 500k a week and that was never doable on a 4 year deal. They took a punt on a guy with potential but he is failing to live up to it so far.

Same thing with the lecce guy coming in, anyone's guess if he is going to be good of bust. Personally prefer what fergie used to do, buy from the pl. Would rather spend more and get kerkez. No surprises there.

26 Jan 2025 15:25:23
Seems we are keen on dorgu but doesn't look like we have the funds to pay what they want. Maybe we could look for a loan with obligation and send them malacia or amass until the summer?

26 Jan 2025 16:18:50
I’m sure we have the funds but don’t want to be held to ransom, think they would be holding out for their record transfer fee if anyone else came calling? We are right to negotiate and get him for the correct price rather than overspend again and again.

26 Jan 2025 17:12:00
We've lost 300 million in 3 years, don't think we have any money that we can spend without getting some sort of psr/ ffp penalty.

I get what your saying about overpaying, we do need to be smarter with the spending.

27 Jan 2025 15:36:20
according to 1 report we offered 16.8 plus 4 in addons . huge jump then to 33 million - apparently we are stuck at 25 now and won't go higher.

25 Jan 2025 23:37:58
So, gratitude and appreciation to Real Betis as deal for Antony completed!
Apparently they are paying 84% of his weekly wage, we are on the hook for £32,000 a week, seems a good deal for us.

26 Jan 2025 06:18:24
Guessing there’s no loan fee involved, but happy to see that they’re paying the lion’s share of his wages. Hope it works out for him. It’s not his fault that Ten Haag thought he was anywhere near good enough for Manchester United, nor that bright spark in accounting agreed to pay £80m+ for him.

26 Jan 2025 07:31:25
So that’s one deal done in an excessively long transfer window. Just another 5-6 in and outs needed….

26 Jan 2025 09:59:58
I see another one out, two in. Take your pic!

26 Jan 2025 10:03:17
I'm happy for him.
While he certainly isn't of the standard that'd demand a fee of over £80m from a club run sensibly, he does graft.

I hope this move kick-starts a revival of fortunes for him.

26 Jan 2025 12:06:35
New lease of life for him in a good league, a decent club in a nice city. Hope he flourishes.

26 Jan 2025 16:47:09
If Antony is really being paid £200k per week and cost us £80m, by the time agents loan fees are taken into account it's estimated the loan will save us £1.5m out of his total £25m+ per year cost Better than nothing I suppose.

26 Jan 2025 16:48:49
He will flourish in a better organised stable team in a league where he doesn't have to defend as much. Wish him good luck.

27 Jan 2025 06:09:59
I hope he doesn’t try to use his right foot to kick start his career or he is screwed. Will not be much better with his crappy left foot either. Good riddance!