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27 Aug 2024 12:30:45
Ed02 - outside of Ugarte, are we still looking at any other incomings or is it likely to be outgoings only now?
We still look very light in midfield with McTominay gone and potentially Eriksen as well.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, Manchester United are looking to add one or two more players if they can.}
1.) 27 Aug 2024 14:57:19
ED002,
Would you be able to elaborate on those one or two signings?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - They would be from the list I provided.}
2.) 27 Aug 2024 15:20:38
Based on what ed has said recently Branthwaite and ederson could be a couple weeks try for.
{Ed002's Note - Everson is now a problem.}
3.) 27 Aug 2024 15:21:50
Cheers ED002.
4.) 27 Aug 2024 16:20:06
Thanks for the response Ed. I'm guessing another CM and a forward potentially, I just hope it's not Amrabat.
I do wonder if Antony could leave before the end of the window given his playing time is looking very limited.
5.) 27 Aug 2024 16:50:27
Ederson issue due to Koopmeiners demanding and finally getting a move to Juve?
6.) 27 Aug 2024 15:25:48
Mad Hatter, Branthwaite and Ederson might be the two going by Eds recent posts.
{Ed002's Note - Everson is now much less likely.}
7.) 27 Aug 2024 18:21:54
Still midfield options out there,
Andre (fluminense), Richard Rios, Manu Kone, Frenkie, and Taylor booth?
Lb options were really kerkez, antonee Robinson and Gutierrez
Forward options kubo, Marcus Edwards, raphinha and mitoma
Bar Rios and Andre the rest is off eds list provided April this year.
8.) 27 Aug 2024 19:06:06
De Jong or Rabiot would be the icing on the cake for me. Not sure how likely either really is at this point, but Ten Haag is a known admirer of both, from what I gather.
9.) 27 Aug 2024 20:00:52
I don’t believe it, but wow, Mitoma. Yes please.
21 Aug 2024 11:01:06
Ed02 - is Ugarte still our preferred midfield target? There have been a few murmurs about Ederson from Atlanta in the past few days.
I personally think Berge would have been a good squad option but he seems to be off to Fulham.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Ugarte and Ederson are very different players.}
1.) 21 Aug 2024 12:31:22
With time short in the window do you think we may move for both ed? I think it would outgoings dependent.
Also I know a sharkopod has been mentioned/ asked for on a few of the sites would it be possible for this? or a break down of possible in/ outs be possible with little over a week left in the window?
Anything you can share is always appreciated and understand if done have the time.
{Ed002's Note - It would depend on departures.}
2.) 21 Aug 2024 12:56:29
Could be quite a busy end to the window for us there are still a few they would like to move on and that could lead to some new additions, wouldn't be surprised to see 1/ 2 CM a LB and maybe a last minute deal for branthwaite if sales go well.
3.) 21 Aug 2024 13:38:43
If United signed Ederson instead of Ugarte, the style of play we see from Mainoo and Fernandes would be different.
Ederson is more of an 8 than a 6 which would demand greater discipline from Mainoo, he doesn't put in as much graft as Ugarte which would demand more dirty work from Mainoo.
Essentially, at United, Ederson could only work in a double pivot with Mainoo, but he's no Joao Neves and we'd be using two players each more suited to being box-to-box 8s in a setup that would stymie the best attributes of each of them while also drawing Bruno into the engine room again which would be pretty dense imo.
For the sake of Mainoo's potential and the freedom to allow Bruno to express himself, United must get a more defensive midfielder.
4.) 21 Aug 2024 14:20:47
Ork, from your analysis am I right in thinking Ederson is like Fred in terms of where and how he plays?
5.) 21 Aug 2024 14:27:45
ORK
Could not have put it better. Athletic has a great piece on Ugarte and highly recommend reading it. Edersen gets forward like Cas does atm for us and very different to Ugarte and more a back up for Mainoo in my eyes. Mainoo is better imo and still so young.
I can see us already planning ahead and no longer being reactive unless its forced on us i.e injuries.
6.) 21 Aug 2024 14:41:10
Casimero is following instructions I'd imagine.
Does eth want a traditional holding no6? Maybe that's part of what the delay is.
We know he would prefer fdj or a player of that ilk (like ederson) perhaps the manager wants something different to what you want and thinks different to how you think.
He sets his team up he wants to play a high line so the need for a traditional no6 is negated by that as he wants to play in the opposition half and push full backs into midfield for cover. That's what he had been implementing and we've been wide open a lot of the time.
Hard to know but it's about what the manager wants and how he wants to play not his fans think we should play.
7.) 21 Aug 2024 16:58:18
Chasing Ugarte all summer points to him wanting a traditional DM.
8.) 21 Aug 2024 17:55:34
If the Analogy is correct then if casemiro is staying we must sign Ugarte. The taught of signing Ederson now puts more pressure om Mainoo.
We get Ugarte and for the season ahead he will show Mainoo how to do his job then next season we have depth for the DM and if Ederson available Next season and Casemiro leaves
We Sign Ederson and we have quite a team ON PAPER/!
THE WAY THE TEAM play due to SOME* lazy gits means we may beed Ederson in January.
9.) 21 Aug 2024 19:06:35
mdb
I'd say yes, but just a bigger version who's little better - imo.
Ken
The reason United want Ugarte is Mainoo, it's as simple as that.
Before last season, Mainoo's potential hadn't delivered anything beyond hype and, therefore, couldn't be looked upon as a stable condition by which to determine the type of midfielder the club should have been trying for - hence the De Jong chase and the subsequent acquisition of Casemiro.
I mean, it's not like the club weren't viewing De Jong and Casemiro as deep-lying playmakers at all - the purchase of Mount as an intended 8 proves that the collective thought process was to get a player in who can provide a defensive shield.
Let's not pretend that De Jong can't put himself about and do the dirty work, but he would have been sought as an 8ish 6 with the requirement focused on defensive protection, if that makes sense.
However, Mainoo's delivery of potential and the rate at which it's flourishing dictate the need for a midfield partner who's far more of a 6 than an 8 - especially if United are to implement a more fluid system out wide.
Ultimately, I don't think Ugarte is a Keane or Vieira, I don't think he's a Kante or a Mascherano, but he's the best option available for the definition of midfielder the club needs ATM.
The next couple of years are crucial for the sensible building of a squad capable of challenging, but we're already still so far away that we need to start by adding at least as many solid and dependable performers as exciting talents.
In a couple of years, Mainoo will have developed into a world-class baller and will likely have fine-tuned his defensive game more which might well determine focus on a player different to Ugarte, but we're not yet at the table that offers the realistic prospect of actually getting players of the calibre of De Jong.
Remember, Arsenal began their recent return to challenging with Partey while Klopp's Liverpool began with Can - both pretty similar players to Ugarte.
Are we really any better than 2015/ 16 Liverpool or 2020/ 21 Arsenal?
10.) 21 Aug 2024 20:32:29
Ork it's a traditional 6 I'd like to see us sign for sure and I agree that the emergence of mainoo has led to that.
I hope we get a real good one. I've never seen urate play I suspect most have not either but he comes in with a decent reputation and on the back of a good summer tournament.
I hope we get him and I'm sure he will make a big difference.
Hannibal ericksen hopefully off soon I'm still living in hope of sancho mctom and lindelof moving on too but I suspect 3 more outs might be a bridge too far.
11.) 21 Aug 2024 22:19:59
In the first Ten Hag team FDJ had a lot of freedom, Schone provided the shield but much more in the Carrick role than the manner of Ugarte.
His second team featured Alvarez as the shield, Gravenberch the nominal partner pushed into the left side of a diamond, Mazaroui would push forward to the right side of a diamond, Berghuis at the tip.
Alvarez was dominant defensively, much more so than Schone but was also quite progressive with ball.
I think Ugarte is firstly a concession to the physical combative nature of the Premier League, United will not dominate possession like Ajax.
Ugarte helps cover for some of the fragility of our defense and midfield especially alongside Mainoo whose skillset right now is in possession.
Ugarte allows him to be progressive with his full backs, this allows him multiple options at the top of pitch. This is what excites me about the signing, we may start to see so etching very different from the counter attacking style I felt he reverted through last year simply because the players at his disposable didn't suit anything else.
F.
13 Aug 2024 22:28:41
Ed02 - a quick one if you don't mind - are we still trying to bring in Branthwaite before the end of the window? You'd think not given De Ligt, but a couple of reports have said otherwise.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - As I have said, I would expect another offer from Manchester United.}
31 May 2024 10:21:21
Ed02 - I've searched but have not found anything from you.
Is Leny Yoro of interest? There have been numerous reports for a while now linking us with him. Looks to be an excellent young defender but feels like it could end up being another Varane where he ends up at Madrid.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Leny Yoro (CB) Lille kiddie who already has PSG, Chelsea and Real Madrid declaring an interest. Manchester City and Manchester United have sent scouts and Manchester City may be keen to do something. May have been noticed by Liverpool when scouting another player against Nantes, but no declared interest at this time - regardless of reports saying they will pay €90M plus for him. And Liverpool have preferred CB targets. Lille will resist a sale and continue to work on a new contract unless someone pays significantly over the odds for him - but if a new contract cannot be agreed they will need to reduce their asking price as he moves in to the final year of his contract. Chelsea has a preferred option but Real Madrid may push but knowing the player has made it clear he wants to join them - and that perhaps putting PSG off rather. Lille will ask for a player on loan as part of any deal with Real Madrid or Chelsea with specific players already discussed.}
1.) 01 Jun 2024 10:17:25
Looks like he could become a top CB, he'll be very pricey though, 60m+ I'd imagine. Plus I think his head has been turned towards Real Madrid.
05 Oct 2023 16:17:43
Ed02 - are we actively looking to appoint a DoF? I saw on the Liverpool page you mentioned a few names and that other clubs were showing interest so I wondered if we are one of them.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - The club has a DoF.}
1.) 06 Oct 2023 09:54:11
No changes such as Director of Football would likely happen unless there was a major reshuffle- likely caused by a takeover.
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01 Jul 2024 20:38:58
Ed02 - we look set to appoint Christopher Vivell as Director of Recruitment - do you think he'd be a good appointment?
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure it is as simple as that. He is a good guy and great at his job. There was a significant issue at Chelsea which let to his early departure.}
1.) 01 Jul 2024 21:12:01
It's seems odd to have someone say if a deal is fair value if you're going to block deals anyway.
Or is the fear more in the line of tapping up? As in others teams wouldn't get the same opportunity to talk to and convince the player a connected team would?
2.) 01 Jul 2024 21:34:40
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3.) 01 Jul 2024 23:28:23
It would seem the appointment of Vivell is initially a short term one, to help with this summers transfer window.
He also has expertise working within the multi club model, from Red Bull, and this may well be something that Ineos will be looking for going forward. Time will tell.
He certainly signed, and sold, some very good players at Leipzig so hopefully this could be another piece of an overall structure of management focussed on the football side of the club. This is what we have all been wanting for a long time.
Don't know if all of these appointments are 'best of class' as SJR said he wants but I do know they are infinitely better than Woodward and the Glazers.
I refuse to be anything other than hugely optimistic going forward.
4.) 01 Jul 2024 21:42:01
Thanks for the response Ed.
26 Oct 2021 15:12:37
Ed02 if you don't mind - are there any developments in regards to Solskjaer's position and whether we are looking to make a change? Are we actively looking at a replacement?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything specific. The club will have talked about it but they will likely be reluctant to make a change immediately - it is expensive and disruptive. Also of importance is what the options are and the timing of any change. If they could make do until next summer or December 2022 then the chances of the preferred options of Mauricio Pochettino or Gareth Southgate might be available. Of those available immediately, Ziodane wants the PSG job, or perhaps the France job. Antonio Conte is a complex charachter and I am far from convinced the structure would suit him - an outstanding coach but he won't be happy for long. The likes of Martinez and Rodgers may be tempted by the job. Rangnick would work as a Sporting Director better than as a coach. Certainly there will be third parties and agents hoping for a little action out of all of this.}
1.) 26 Oct 2021 15:55:17
Out of those mentioned Rodgers would be my choice and not just because he is a fellow Northern Irishman. I know his Pool connections and he is accused of winning nothing (up until recent FA Cup) but he is a track suit coach, decent tactician and I think sooner or later he would win a big trophy playing decent football .
Maybe Pool job came a bit too early for him to go all the way to the PL but all in all I like his approach to the game.
2.) 26 Oct 2021 16:33:07
Agree with the above post 100%.
3.) 26 Oct 2021 17:40:23
Difference being, Rodgers has won with Celtic.
Came a very close 2nd with Liverpool.
Won an FA Cup with Leicester (outclassing United on the way) .
The progress is clear with Rodgers.
Whether he is the correct the person to go forward to handle all those personalities remains to be seen.
The problem is, United haven't won the league since 2013.
Its unlikely if a coach like Rodgers arrives that we will win the league. that's not a dig at Rodgers because clearly he is talented. Its more of being in awe at Pep, Klopp and Tuchel. They are the best 3 coaches in the world right now, and by some distance. You could argue Nagelsmann is a top coach however German league is always a 2 horse race and largely Bayern always win (note Klopp won it with Dortmund) . To compete with those 3 managers, you need a serial winner - someone with a winners mentality. On the pitch you have that - Ronaldo, Pogba (world cup) and Varane. It needs backing up in the coaching department.
Looking at Contes record, he rarely (? if ever) remains longer than 2 seasons. He does guarantee silverware (though we thought that with Mr Mourinho and he did deliver, just everything but what we wanted) . he's the only coach currently that can compete with the above 3. Zizu has won CL as a coach but RM football wasn't always fun to watch. He can manage big personalities, though there's probably more at United than there were at Madrid. (Ronaldo, Fernandes, Pogba) .
Ten Haag is being touted as being exciting because of youth etc, so perhaps long term could be an option. That should only be an option though AFTER some silverware. Champions League or Premier League. Sorry but the Europa/ FA Cup/ League Cup don't cut it.
Tuchel came in half way and won the goddamn champions league, and if my memory serves me correct, he THEN signed a longer a contract (correct me if wrong) . We haven't won the CL since 2008 and Prem since 2013. 8 years without significant trophies is ridiculous. We need some proper silverware this season, or the next at the latest. We can claim to still be an attractive club - but as City, Liverpool and Chelsea become more dominant, why would Haaland or MBappe want to come to the PL and not even play for the best team in Manchester let alone premier league. We have lost domination since Fergie. Even Klopp referred to us in 2014 as an adult Disneyland and rejected us.
The next 2 weeks are pivotal in shaping the next 5 years. The board have signalled they will make the wrong footballing (perhaps right monetary for them) decisions. The club is in crisis right now, the worst it has ever been. Worse than Moyes. Make no mistake, 0-5 to Liverpool was worse than 1-6 to City. By a mile.
4.) 26 Oct 2021 18:44:33
Porch always has been my preferred choice. Glad to see Ed mention him.
24 Aug 2021 11:16:31
Diario AS reporting that we are 'winning the race' for Niguez but Chelsea are still interested.
Still can't see it happening.
1.) 24 Aug 2021 11:19:09
Interestingly it’s down as a loan to buy in the article as well.
2.) 24 Aug 2021 12:07:06
Would love this to happen, Ed has said that we might try and bring in someone who we’ve been looking at previously…let’s be honest though, he will end up at Chelsea😔.
3.) 24 Aug 2021 13:43:16
Saúl is one of the possibilities for Chelsea as he has chances to leave Atletico, as reported here. Chelsea will decide this week whether to buy a new midfielder or not
thats from fabrizio
cant see us signing another cm just to sit on the bench while the likes of matic and fred continue to play.
4.) 24 Aug 2021 13:54:34
Romano apparently said there’s a bid in from Chelsea, loan with buy option. That’s that then. Apparently we enquired but as usual are way too slow.
5.) 24 Aug 2021 14:20:56
Let pogba off. Buy Saul. Play Saul plus 1 of mctom or donny.
Fred and matic can play if required. We will have a much more skilled and pro active team
Play sancho left greenwood
Cavani up top until rash gets back. Then any 3 from that 4 will do well.
James and amad can back them up get martial out of the club on loan or permanently.
6.) 24 Aug 2021 14:25:09
You auditioning for the manager/ DOF role Ken? 🤣.
7.) 24 Aug 2021 14:30:56
They couldn't afford me Tim😊.
8.) 24 Aug 2021 16:37:55
Is anyone interesting in Martial Ken?
{Ed077's Note - Martial to PSG anyone?? To replace Mbappe.
Better yet, Pogba and Martial for Mbappe. One can dream :-D}
9.) 24 Aug 2021 17:00:28
Think they would rather play with no striker than sign Martial Ed.
{Ed077's Note - I wouldnt give a rats a$$ whether Martial got the Donny treatment or the Bruno treatment if we could use him to bring Mbappe in.
But alas that aint happening.}
10.) 24 Aug 2021 19:12:15
Really 077 would you prefer pogba gone, don’t get me wrong I feel he’s been nothing special and has not showed great loyalty but with most other big teams around us looking so strong, and pogba starting so good I couldn’t think of anything worse he looks different class this season.
{Ed077's Note - I have been on the "let's move Pogba" on camp and 2 good games aint gonna change it. Let's hope he can keep his form up
14 Jan 2020 12:02:13
Ed02, it's been reported that we've bid for the Birmingham City youngster Jude Bellingham - is there any truth in this?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know I am afraid. He is only a kiddie as far as I recall.}
1.) 14 Jan 2020 13:47:23
Good player, only 16 and scoring goals in the championship.
07 Oct 2019 09:20:26
Ed02 - do you think the board will continue to give Ole time, no matter how bad the results are?
Given the importance of top 4, I struggle to see how he stays for much longer.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed. I am not sure why you mention "the board", but Manchester United, if they are going to improve, need to deal with this terrible mistake and move on. There is a reluctance to do it but there is an inevitability that it needs to happen. It was a stupid mistake and thoughts about keeping it in the MU family are at best naive.}
1.) 07 Oct 2019 11:19:03
And here you go guys, ed002, tells it as it is, and even he has been saying ogs was a mistake. But will Woodward and co finally accept that maybe they're not best placed to make footballing decisions. Somehow, I think the Glazers/ Woodward circus will be running for a long time as we, the fans, keep lining their pockets with gold.
2.) 07 Oct 2019 11:20:29
ED 02. You seem to imply that the Board don't make the football decisions about hiring and firing the manager so if not who does.
{Ed002's Note - The fans are looking for people they don’t know so they can abuse them. The complete lack of knowledge about the set up and operation of the business and club is laughable.}
3.) 07 Oct 2019 11:44:56
Well whoever is making these decisions needs to go as well.
4.) 07 Oct 2019 12:02:44
You agree he needs to go Mort?
5.) 07 Oct 2019 12:48:01
Mumbles if were in charge I would give him the time. However I'm not in charge so I think he will go sooner or later.
However I have no confidence in the suits to not make a mess of it.
If he goes it should be Wenger short term whilst we approach 4 managers to gauge their interest and ask them to formally apply.
My 4 man shortlist would be the managers of Leeds, Salzburg, Leipzig and England.
6.) 07 Oct 2019 12:53:00
I'm pretty sure Woodward does the hiring and firing of the managers. The board as in the Glazers leave the running of the club up to people like Woodward.
7.) 07 Oct 2019 14:09:02
Remind me again why I wholeheartedly agree with Ed002?
His knowledge, insight and vast information are undeniable. Sometimes, I do wonder if, just if the glazers were to ask Ed002 to man the helm just for a year.
& no, I don't mean as the manager but a key strategic football position like a DoF. Or PERHAPS, a CEO's position like Woodward.
But a man can only wish.
Anyway, maybe Wenger can be a good short-term solution.
8.) 07 Oct 2019 14:43:47
Yaz,
I don't think the club could afford ED002s wages.
28 Oct 2024 14:36:54
Ed02 - out of curiosity, now that Tuchel is no longer available, who in your opinion do you think would be the best option?
{Ed002's Note - Terzic is a very strong character but I doubt he will be interested in the job. Xavi will need persuading and may not be interested until the summer. Again a good option. i don't know enough about van Nistelrooy but Ajax were keen on him.}
01 Oct 2024 11:28:29
Ed002 - if EtH was to depart, would Nagelsmann be an option?
{Ed002's Note - No.}
27 Aug 2024 16:20:06
Thanks for the response Ed. I'm guessing another CM and a forward potentially, I just hope it's not Amrabat.
I do wonder if Antony could leave before the end of the window given his playing time is looking very limited.
07 Aug 2024 14:40:05
Ed002 - based on your comment on the Liverpool page (They would need to offer more than Manchester United and somehow persuade the player to move, when he has made it clear to Arsenal already that he is not interested in leaving. ) - I'm assuming that applies to us as well and that he is still not interested in leaving? Does make you wonder why we'd make an offer if that is the case.
Can you share who our primary midfield target (s) is now? Appeared to be Neves in the past based on your previous posts but he's no longer an option and I can't see any other recent posts about midfield options.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Yes it would likely apply - the player would need convincing.
There are targets, Ugarte but there is a major issue to do with valuation; Frenkie de Jong; Fofana but he is close to moving to Italy; Ederson; Hjulmand; Joey Veerman but there is serious interest from elsewhere; Berge ....}
23 May 2024 20:48:17
Ed02 - do you think he'd be a good appointment? Big step up but has earned a lot of praise with what he's done with Ipswich.
{Ed002's Note - There is a risk with appointment.}
01 Jul 2024 21:42:01
Thanks for the response Ed.
05 Nov 2020 13:54:40
Ed02 - are you able to expand at all please?
Have we actually made any approach to Pochettino? You'd think another loss against Everton could be the end for Ole.
{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that there has been a general discussion with a third-party - and no more.}
29 Jan 2020 11:58:35
Ed02 - do you think he'd be a good fit for the position if it was to happen? Read a few articles from him and it wasn't great reading in regards to his time at PSG.
{Ed002's Note - It would depend on responsibilities - but I fear the stucture would not suit him.}