Manchester United Banter Archive February 27 2018

27 Feb 2018 20:53:19
Just watching the u23s lose to Villarreal. Two awful defensive mistakes by us. However what bothers me more is that like the first team there seems to be no leaders nobody driving the team forward. This doesn't bode well for the future progression I to our first team.

27 Feb 2018 22:28:55
The issue with them is they play with different team mates all the time.

In order for leadership to develop you need continuos relationship with your team mates and understand each other and neither of those happens as there is a lot of chopping and changes in our youth teams.

28 Feb 2018 00:07:34
Look at some of the players we have out on loan that would beef up that age group. The likes of Wilson and Mitchell. The thing about most youth teams is unfortunately one or two will break through in most cases. But look at our under 18 some promising players in there, Mason Greenwood is a name to remember.

27 Feb 2018 16:33:54
Now i have to be clear here, i'm a red scouser, but to be honest, Manchester United were always a good watch on TV, but watched on Sunday, what poor play. first goal obvious foul second good goal, but how can that charlatan stay in the job, he's like Hellino Herrera of Inter Milan in the 60's.

He'll ruin you, then clear off like he always does with the club in turmoil. You were once the same but are never as good to watch as Liverpool or Spurs are at the moment. One last small point, how come when i watch your lot on TV all i hear from the mighty Stratford End are songs about Merseyside? They sing them when you're losing!

27 Feb 2018 16:46:24
Last i remembered the Hellino Hererra of 2018 has a Europa League and a League cup in his first season, remind me what the crazy weirdo from Germany last won and when? You keep your pretty football we will keep our trophies.

27 Feb 2018 17:21:59
What a bitter bitter post 😂 first goal was a foul hahaha.

I don’t know what the Stratford end is but they certainly sing a lot of songs that are nothing to do with Liverpool at the Old Trafford I go to.

Not sure you needed to tell us you were a red scouser, the post was fairly clear about that, gave me a good laugh on a cold Tuesday anyway.

27 Feb 2018 17:31:28
Wel'll concentrate on Jose whilst he 'ruins us', you just enjoy Klopp and his trophyless years at Liverpool whilst your best players continue to leave. Good day!

27 Feb 2018 17:44:09
If u can hear the fans in stratford singing then jeez they are a rowdy bunch.

27 Feb 2018 17:44:28
Bitter as a bag of unripend lemons.

27 Feb 2018 18:21:51
Are ripe lemons less bitter than unripend lemons😂😂 Google unsure.

27 Feb 2018 18:36:01
Wow you took the time to come on and post that! Jesus 😂.

27 Feb 2018 18:44:07
5 gaulstones, that name is enough for me, no need for me to come back at you there.

27 Feb 2018 18:45:32
no son read your history of football, or read me you'll learn an awful lot.

27 Feb 2018 18:46:18
see you're doing it again losing the real issue in partisanship i said united were a good watch, did you not see that bit, united's football at the moment is absolute rubbish, much as i detest them they were good to watch, but not now, i'm with Beastie on this and many more, basically a TV switch off, turning on to your other top viewing program Rita on Coronation Street, more entertaining, just in fun but the football is crap, love your ID though COMMON SENSE MOYES, give us all a break.

27 Feb 2018 18:47:02
1960s (get mixed up son over the dates) 2018 can you not read i give you some leeway because i think you're a very young child, but football did exist you know before the Premier League in Europe as well.

27 Feb 2018 18:48:39
what are you talking about HELLINO HERRERRA was 1960s manager of Inter milan.

27 Feb 2018 18:49:10
oh gosh, really upset by the insults thought everyone would agree.

27 Feb 2018 18:50:17
did you read the full post?

27 Feb 2018 19:05:56
on the rumours page there is one who calls himself stouipid do not need to say anything else.

27 Feb 2018 19:49:33
It's inflammatory nonsense.

I assume you received the reaction you were looking for.

27 Feb 2018 19:55:52
What a clampit you are gaulstone. Every credit though to you for being able to use a computer. I still thought it was 1990 in Mickey Mouse land. Are you not embarrassed that it is now 28 years without the league.

27 Feb 2018 21:04:21
5 gaulstones don't be so bitter mate, we know next year will be yours until October then it'll be the next year. hate us because you ain't us :)

27 Feb 2018 21:16:28
On a serious note is this guy drunk. His posts reek of someone who thinks they are intelligent.

27 Feb 2018 21:17:38
5 gallstones did you hold hands and celebrate when you free with West Brom lol.

27 Feb 2018 21:20:45
Ken u might be right. i'm unsure if unripened are more sour 🤣🤣.

27 Feb 2018 21:51:57
#drew.

27 Feb 2018 22:05:21
Leahy,

A photo of the hand holding after the bafgies win pooped up on my fb the other day. still brilliant.

27 Feb 2018 22:11:22
Popped up - not pooped up 🤣🤣.

27 Feb 2018 22:20:27
Ezrs I will never forget it, it was priceless.

27 Feb 2018 22:43:19
Hellino Herrera spelt correctly won quite a bit at inter including the european cup, your point is? Liverpool at the moment are entertaining because of a 3 man team at the front. They are entertaining because everyone else behind them is dog turd and they leak goals when they can't counter attack. Liverpool set the footballing world alight and apparently have the best front line ever seen in the history of football and are still below us in the league which doesn't lie. Replying to your own posts shows us what an agitated voyeur you are.

28 Feb 2018 00:09:36
Taxi for Gaul stones.

Managed to come on to a page seemingly for a bite and ended up biting 4 times at the replies, genius.

28 Feb 2018 00:11:37
every Liverpool fan I speak to say we are crap and boring yet it’s getting dull. I remember when there was good banter between the fans, also we have the same goal difference and are 2 points ahead of them, not bad for a side which plays awful football lol.

28 Feb 2018 00:50:21
Anyone seen Mighty Reds? Or has he changed name?

28 Feb 2018 06:53:40
666 he is grounded and his mum took his tablet away.

27 Feb 2018 11:29:08
Interesting to see that martial and Lukaku have equalled our record for the most prolific combination in a single season with 6. Quite a shocking fact considering we have had several strong duos such as Ronaldo and Rooney and Cantona and Giggs. Martial and pogba have also combined for 5 goals. It’s clear to see lukaku’s effect on his team mates around him. Last year Zlatan was far too static and everything was played through him. With Lukaku willing to run behind and take a few defenders out the game, it has allowed other players such as martial, Lingard and to an extent pogba to flourish. We all want rom to have scored more goals but I think he has done well and he has the most amount of assists out of any of the strikers. Not bad for a ‘flat track bully’.

27 Feb 2018 12:08:37
Rom has done well in a team that really hasn't been playing to his strengths. For me he has answered the debate between him and Morata, I'm happy we went for him, I just wish Jose would sub him off and play Rashford up there for the last 20 mins of games, that way rash gets some minutes in his preferred position end Rom stays fresher.

Rash has a lot to learn about hold up play and playing against tough CBs, he won't learn it from the bench.

27 Feb 2018 12:23:06
I agre dodgy. If we played to lukaku’s strengths and created as many chances as spurs do for Kane I would expect Lukaku to be on around 20 goals and challenging for the golden boot. Still lots to improve on but only 24 and will only get better.

27 Feb 2018 12:58:14
Kane makes a lot of his chances himself as well, but he certainly has had better service than Rom.

27 Feb 2018 13:21:30
I said Lukaku wouldn't do well at utd and I'm pleased to see that so far it looks like I was wrong.

I was concerned about his work rate and his toughness but I've actually been really pleased with both. I especially like his work rate off the ball and he doesn't seem to mind putting it about a bit either.

He's won me over and I hope he continues to improve so as to make things happen at the very highest level.

27 Feb 2018 13:33:55
I think we where missing a player like rom been pretty good imo and still improving .

27 Feb 2018 15:32:03
Good Post Park I didn't realise that mate!

We could use some good understanding's and partnership's from an attacking point of view. Sometimes I think we just rely on individual brilliance to score goals and win us games rather than any real patterns of play or relationships.

I'd like us to stick with the 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2 until the end of the season. If Martial and Lukaku and Martial and Pogba can continue to combine and we can get Sanchez in on the act I can see no reason why we can't finish the season strongly.

27 Feb 2018 16:26:32
I mentioned on here yesterday that they have struck up a great understanding and had assisted each other 3 times each so far this season. Didn't realise it tied them for the record.

Come to think of it I wonder if some jurno has read that and made an article out of it. Lol.

27 Feb 2018 18:28:53
Rom is working hard on his gane both on the pitch and obviously in training on his perturbed weaknesses. If all the other players did the same we might be in better shape.
He has great attributes and is learning how to use some of the differently than he has before. I admire him for that. Good attitude and as jeed said you can see him improving weekly.
He seems to be a little more humble than say pogba or martial and realises that he may need to change parts of his game and work on aspects that are for the good of the team.

27 Feb 2018 20:46:46
I agree ken. I will admit I wanted morata instead of Lukaku but how wrong I have been proven. Still think morata is sulking and would have preferred a move to us. Something that stands out about rom is his desire to learn and improve to be the best. I’ve heard he is consistently watching videos of his performances and has a burning desire to do the graft to be the best. He is also by all accounts a very intelligent guy who can speak 6 languages I think. I agree he doesn’t get the credit he deserves as he mentioned the other day.

Agreed ken he is much more humble than martial and pogba and I feel that’s because he has had to graft a bit more to get to where he is now. He took the step down to play at Everton and West Brom after failing at Chelsea and that takes a lot of character. Most talented youngsters go by the way side after their big move doesn’t quite work out. He put his head down and moved to a smaller team and deserves his chance at united. Whereas pogba and martial seem to have had it a little easier by getting their big moves to us and haven’t had to struggle as much. They say the ones that get it given on a plate don’t have the desire as those who have had to bust a gut for it. Long may rom continue to develop as he has a lot of talent.

27 Feb 2018 21:51:33
Park i too would have chosen moratta. But was not disappointed to get lukaku.
Delighted with his attitude.

26 Feb 2018 23:21:49
Anybody else find it a bit odd how blind has been completely frozen out? I understand darmian he is shocking but I feel blind still has something to offer. Yes he is not the quickest or the strongest but he does have a very good footballing brain and can put in a decent cross. I know he is off in the summer most likely but I thought he wasn’t too bad at left back and can also probably slot in midfield if need be if we play a three. I do think he is massively out of favour with Jose and doubt we will see him again. I’ve always been a fan think he’s a good player but obviously we do need better if we are going to mount a serious title challenge.

27 Feb 2018 06:31:02
Putting aside his rugged good looks you are correct, but he’s not th only one is he? I guess Jose has finally settled on what he considers his best team, the one that started at Chelsea perhaps. Add in Rash, Mata and Lingard up front, McT has emerged and Carrick is now available in midfield, he has a lot of options at CB and Young and Shaw at LB.

My biggest issue is that Shaw is praised for his commitment and progress and then immediately dropped and no can’t get a game. That’s a strange way to motivate a young player, hopefully sensible conversations are taking place behind the scenes.

27 Feb 2018 07:58:52
I like Blind, very good footballer in my opinion. He can do a good job at CB, LB or in midfield. You need players like Blind in the squad.

I know Shappy posted y'day that we needed a player capable of dictating the play in midfield and I think Blind could do this job especially in a midfield 3. He's intelligent, reads the game very well and he's positionally astute. I can see no reason why he couldn't play that role in a midfield 3 to give Matic a rest especially at Old Trafford.

I've always thought he played pretty well at CB to be honest. Ok in the big games and against the more physical sides away from home he has struggled on occasions but at home, when we generally dominate teams I think it helps to have a player that can build from the back and start attacks rather than Smalling who can only pass the ball 5 yards sideways.

Very underrated and useful squad player in my opinion.

{Ed001's Note - you have set the bar low there, a player who can't play away from home, so immediately ruling out 50% of games, and not against physical sides, is a useful player for Man Utd? Surely that is exactly what you do not need? You are aiming to win the title not avoid relegation Danny, you don't do that with players who are only worth picking 3 or 4 times a season!}

27 Feb 2018 09:55:42
I think Blind is a very talented player, his vision, technical ability and reading of the game is top class. However, he does struggle slightly with pace and power, most of the time his reading of the game means he isn’t exposed too often. In the EPL he will be exposed more often though due to the emphasis placed on physicality in England.

I think he has played better in defence than he has in midfield for us due to him having slightly more time and space playing further back. Also midfields in England have a tendency to be built to be dynamic rather than technical. We like midfielders who do lots of running and throwing themselves into last ditch tackles. It’s more entertaining than someone getting hold of the ball and making the ball do the running, while never having to throw themselves into last ditch tackle because they read the game and made a smart interception or cut off the run before it developed.


I don’t think a manager like Mourinho will ever truly appreciate what Blind can bring to a team as he is likely to see the weaknesses in his game as too fundamental to the way he wants his teams to play.


I think Blind would be an amazing player in Italy, I could see him becoming one of the top midfielders in Serie A, his talents suit that league, and that style. Maybe a move to Inter Milan or Roma would be ideal for him.

27 Feb 2018 10:16:09
It's a game of opinion's Ed but he's a good squad player and this is a Dutch International we're speaking about.

The whole point of squad players is they don't play every game. I didn't say we could win the league with Blind as our first choice centre back or central midfielder but he can play a variety of positions and is a vastly underrated player in my opinion.

Just to clarify I didn't say he couldn't play away from home or against physical sides only that he has struggled on occasions where his lack of strength and pace has been exposed.

In the modern game it's not just about the 11 on the pitch and it's very difficult to win the league and compete on all fronts without having good players to cover for injuries, fatigue, suspension's, loss of form etc.

To answer your question he's exactly the kind of player Utd need in their squad in my opinion.

Shappy - Good post mate totally agree.

{Ed001's Note - I wasn't saying otherwise Danny. I was just pointing out the way you worded it was suggesting you could barely use him yet you called that a useful squad player. Hardly that useful if you can only play him in games you should win without him anyway!

Personally I think he would be ok next to Matic in the playmaker role. I don't think he is good enough defensively to protect a back four or to play as part of it. He ball watches far too much and wanders away when he should sit, so he needs cover.}

27 Feb 2018 11:04:36
Blind has played 5 league games for us this year can't make the bench never mind the first team .
Jose doesn't tend to rotate as much as some managers and tend to work with a smaller squad.
At Chelsea he said "I want a small squad - 21 players plus the goalkeepers and no more.
"It is a correct number for the specific work we want to do"
And said similar at United.
When Chelsea won the title Jose only used 22 players and when bastion was allowed to leave last year he again moved to a 22 man squad.

Blind probably isn't part of that.

27 Feb 2018 10:38:34
I understand now sorry Ed I can see how it could read like that.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, I was a bit surprised coming from you that you would say that.}

27 Feb 2018 13:57:54
Blind is smart but slow. That fit Van Gaal's possession-based system, but not Mourinho's. He gets stranded too often in the up and down game of the Premier League. In a system where the team dominated the ball, he could take up the right positions and keep the ball moving, but he struggles in a game with a lot of transitions like our current setup. I imagine he may move to get more regular minutes.