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19 Oct 2025 20:43:58
Id like to report from behind enemy lines. There's a lot of dogs yelping!

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19 Oct 2025 20:35:50
Hi Ken, you seemed to get upset and offended when I said that Van Dijk is an issue at the moment for Liverpool and we can exploit him. Look forward to your defence of him after today šŸ˜‚.

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20 Oct 2025 10:14:04
Ports i don't get offended or upset by posts on this site.
I think he made a mistake in the 2st min and was quite good after that.
Full back on his side had a mare as predicted.
Our options on vvd at this stage of his career don't differ. You said he had 2 good seasons i don't agree.
I feel he would walk into 17 or 18 teams in the league even still including ours but you don't agree.
You thought colleyer and some other chap would make big impacts last season I doubted they would play 90 mins all season once collyer did play over 90 min you were jumping up and down like a 10yo child like you are today but he hardly played again the other chap never did and now neither are at the club. 🤣🤣🤣 Keep it up ports doing a great job on keeping an eye on things.

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20 Oct 2025 11:49:40
Interesting reading the deligt interview. He said that last week in training they worked on exploiting Liverpool biggest weakness defensively and that was both full back areas.
Well spotted and identified by our coaches and with both assists coming from the full back areas (2 good passes) any cool could see that's the weak areas in the Liverpool team this season.
Good tactics well thought out and well executed. Described well by a professional player who knows what he is taking about having been part of the plan.
Exploit the weakest full back areas. Good idea.

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20 Oct 2025 15:31:40
šŸ˜‚ so to confirm, you are blaming Kerkez for the 1st goal and the full back for Maguire’s winner šŸ˜‚ fair enough Ken.

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20 Oct 2025 16:51:00
Are you blaming vvd for our winner ports? His position for the corner is front post six yard line. Brunos cross was well over that zone when it came back to him and evaded konte who was in that zone.
Did I not say vvd made a mistake in 1st min? for jumping over mcallister when he should have stood off.
Your just being silly but its a common trait for you.

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20 Oct 2025 16:57:12
Both assists came from the full back areas I wouldn't necessarily blame the full backs. But you are a person always looking for blame i'd say we great passes and finishes.
Watching too much tv so all you look for is scapegoats when it was good play on our part.
As I said our opinions on vvd don't differ that greatly other than you think he has never been that good. I beg to differ.
Our coaching staff highlighted the weaknesses to exploit and that was the full back areas.
Vvd didn't do much wrong after the 1st goal imo. Neither konate kherkez covered his mistake close to the centre circle and he didn't get back quick enough to cover his own error.
On every player rating I read vvd outscored both full backs but scored less than konate for the 1st time this season.

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20 Oct 2025 17:02:22
ā€œWell spotted and identified by our coaches and with both assists coming from the full back areas (2 good passes) any cool could see that's the weak areas in the Liverpool team this season. ā€

Not you blaming the full backs then?

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20 Oct 2025 17:33:03
No ports its not. The coaches saw that as an area to exploit and we did. Both goals came from full back areas but it was good play by bruno and amad not necessarily bad play from their full backs.
Keep digging its making you look a bit silly. Vvd made a mistake in 1st min after that had a decent game.
He made less mistakes than Shaw for example who I thought had a good game but the post and lammens dug him out so his mistakes didn't cost us.
Their full backs have been a big issue for them this season. You see it differently to most people and that's OK.
Our coaching staff as confirmed by deligt felt that's where we could get most hot low and behold they were right. Good play in those areas will help as its a Liverpool weakness at the moment.

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20 Oct 2025 19:03:22
Ken, I appreciate you try to give yourself some additional credit and add some worth to your points in conversations by using patronising statements like ā€œyour making yourself look sillyā€ and that’s fine but you never actually add any substance to your points.

You say things categorically but don’t like being challenged or it being highlighted when things don’t work out how you expected. You categorically said ETH was out, he wasn’t. You categorically said Collyer and any youth player combined would not get 90 minutes total, I disagreed and as it was, they did so you change the narrative to suggest I said they’d make a big impact, I didn’t say that.

Now let’s review this Van Dijk discussion. A Liverpool fan posted about their problems and I said I think, which won’t be popular that Van Dijk is a problem for them and that upset you. I gave reasons but you were still offended by them but couldn’t actually articulate any debate other than he’s a been a good premier league CB therefore it is unthinkable he could now be a problem.

So let’s look at the game. De Ligt said the full backs are a problem. But what’s the problem with them? IMO they are very aggressive getting forward WHICH results in Van Dijk being exposed. How? Mbuemo came inside for every long ball engaging VVD and bringing him out the back line. The majority of long balls in the first half went down VVD direction and not Konate’s. Mbuemo was not expected to win the ball, Amorim would have started Sesko surely if he wanted that outcome but United set up to win the second ball which would mean space in behind and VVD recovery runs are not what they were anymore, age, injury big factors, first goal a prime example. This was also a good tactic because Kerkez pushes forward so high.

Most of United’s success came down the right side in the first half. Not solely down to Kerkez but because VVD has problems now and Amorim exposed both these players weaknesses. Just try watching the game of football Ken rather than getting caught up with twitter opinions or YouTube fan pages. And don’t get upset when you get called out for statements you make that don’t necessarily turn out how you said they would, it’s a football fan page for opinions and banter. Makes you look a bit silly šŸ˜‰.

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20 Oct 2025 19:57:38
Ports i have no issue being challenged i welcome it. You're very touchy at times
Ive made thousands of incorrect predictions on football. I'll continue to do so
I can't categorically state anything that I don't know for sure. As i'm sure you know the written word has no tone so it looks like a categorical statement at times rather than an opinion i'm saying. i'm more than happy to defend any opinion i have and more than happy to concede when I'm wrong in hindsight i.e after the event. I've been wrong a lot as i predict a united win before every game we've ever played.
Your argument is silly imo. You can be offended or feel patronised by my opinion of your argument if you choose to be.
Vvd imo has been a far better player over his career than in yours. A very high end cb and well thought of by most people who you would expect to know.
The team plan which we wouldn't normally be privy to (but for the deligt interview) was to try and get at both full backs. So I don't understand your opening post. Diallo and mbeumo had kherkez all over the place. It was good stuff to watch but amad getting an early yellow in 2nd half put paid to that and we didn't attack as well at all on that side with dalot there but got more joy through cunha and dorgu in 2nd half. But they dominated possession in 2nd half.
On eth sjr has admitted the mistake of his u turn and change of heart. I really didn't think he'd buckle. Costly mistake i didn't think he would make but like all mistakes he felt it was the right thing to do at the time. Its the one wrong i was most annoyed about as it was a real sign of weakness by the new management. They had decided and u turned sjr has said as much. Hopefully they stick to their plans better going forward. To be fair it was really early days for the new management so I forgive them🤣.

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21 Oct 2025 08:47:27
You two need to get a room. 🤣.

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10 Oct 2025 20:37:54
Today the blue and red city were but 1 for the Hitmans funeral and his funeral was a rollercoaster

RIP Ricky you will live on in memory of that great night vs Kosta to Mayweather in Vegas

Love him or loathe him. THEIRS ONLY ONE RICKY HATTON.

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08 Oct 2025 22:26:32
Opinions on SJR intervoew in the Times dismissing the hyperbole around Amorim and making clear he needs 3 years to get the team at a club like United in the right shape and squad and play?

I think the content was great but he could have gone further stating that every great Man Utd manager was someone the club had faith and backing of long term belief of the leadership.

I was pleased to see he mocked the press for their knee jerk expectations and that it showed a lack of understanding of the size of the task.

This for me was important that the players will hear that loud and clear. Its the manager and his plan we believe in, get with the plan or get your coat. Its you that needs to perform for the manager or we replace you and not him.

Timing wise it is also clever, internation break so light on sports news so it gets maximum airtime and coverage to set our stall out well and truly.

Shows those inside the club in the eight positions are all aligned amd on the same page, a club united in its name and also its belief in the project. No matter waht others think.

Thoughts?

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09 Oct 2025 08:19:26
Personally, I think it's excellent news, but it will bring the angst and pain to others here who constantly preach for his instant removal. To the naysayers, I suggest you suck it up and support the club, manager and players. GGMU.

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09 Oct 2025 10:18:02
As obvious as it sounds as long as he wins he will get the time. If it carries on this way there is no amount of backing from Ratcliffe that will stop the pressure to sack.

Also he is just trying to shut people up. He knows Amorim won’t be here in 3 months never mind 3 years if it doesn’t improve.

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09 Oct 2025 13:00:49
It doesn't bring me any angst Fizz, but 1 solid win does not change my mind. I'm happy to be proved wrong, and it sounds like RA will get the time to do that, but I've seen nothing yet to convince me this will end well.

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08 Oct 2025 21:18:00
3yrs :)?

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08 Oct 2025 21:37:23
Yeah why not. Doesn't mean he'll last 3 years. Will be 1 yr in soon. I think it shows great support against all those media voices and pundits, most of which (and thise that have have been shockingly bad hence why they are in their jobs now) if not all have any managerial or coaching experience.

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08 Oct 2025 22:23:24
The biggest problem out club has had over recent years is that we have twitched every time the media has turned.

Having the owner come out and put that to bed should hopefully give the manager the stability needed to actually have a chance of turning us around.

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09 Oct 2025 08:20:42
It makes perfect sense to me.

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07 Oct 2025 10:13:52
What's everyone's thinking about Gary Neville's comments about middle aged white men.
Personal I think he should keep his opinion to himself.

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07 Oct 2025 11:31:09
Why should he do that?

Is this not a vital factor of Free Speech that's overlooked by most of those who chirp about it?

He's entitled to his opinion and in my opinion he's absolutely nailed it.

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07 Oct 2025 11:38:01
Personally, and unusually, I think he's right.

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07 Oct 2025 12:20:39
I like Gary nev.
Keefy I agree free speech is not what it was. The cancel culture is alive and well sadly.
He is entitled to his opinion due to his media exposure he needs to be responsible in airing his opinions as we are living in the viral world full of extremist people where things grow legs for no reason.
He is in a worse position attacking coaches where he is nothing but a catastrophic failure himself.

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07 Oct 2025 13:29:51
Sorry I meant ork.

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07 Oct 2025 13:26:05
Ken

Without wishing to get too political, this 'cancel culture' waffle is, imo, one of the most eroding factors in modern-day interpretation of one's freedom of opinion.

I mean, the driving factors of 'cancel culture' are not too dissimilar to the social movements that led to laws bringing better rights in the UK to women and non-white people, but nowadays there's a buzz-term that's bandied about with little respect paid to the underlying principles that have helped our society progress.

The same with 'woke', it's now just become a bat of a word, again something that's bandied about so much by people who don't actually respect the merit of it's worth.

Not being funny mate, but if this is cancel culture, then what on earth is the roundabout molesting and hotel intimidation?

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07 Oct 2025 17:20:55
I think you misunderstood or I didn't put my point across well Ork.
My point is devilled should be allowed voice his opinion without the fear of being cancelled.
But nowadays its a risk he takes due to his exposure.
My views are that there is too much judging on people opinions. We've seen several high profile people cancelled just for having an opinion.
Its crazy. imo.

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07 Oct 2025 20:07:27
Sancho unchained,

Well done by letting us know your gender and age with one post. Bet you have a flag in your X profile.

Neville is spot on and the people complaining are the exact people he’s talking about, many of which I would never want to spend any time with.

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{Ed007's Note - Spot on mate šŸ‘ And seeing it's his first ever post the guy's obviously just a knobhead troll looking to cause bother and look for support from other idiots. I'm 51 and recently only found out what an incel is, I bet he's one of them šŸ˜‚

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07 Oct 2025 20:36:49
Ken

I probably did misunderstand to an extent, but again it's the 'cancel' word that doesn't fit for me.

The premise of free speech cannot function without consequence (other people's opinions and reactions) .

For example, Jim Davidson wasn't cancelled, he was merely the gullible victim of consequence - it is free speech that bit his botty.

JK Rowling, whether one might agree with her or not, is perfectly entitled to her opinion, but when she gets a reaction it's all of a sudden cancel culture.
Someone used to buy the books, but decides to burn them, suddenly that's cancelling her.
No, it's consequence borne of the equal rights of others.

Neville knows he'll get a reaction and I firmly believe he's already toned down his true feelings, but should profile and platform create nodding dogs?

We could all debate this further, but it's not the right place (sorry Eds), I'll get my coat.

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08 Oct 2025 05:06:41
Nothing to do with opinions or airing them it’s stupidness of mentioning a group that are doing it everyone with an ounce of brain will know it’s aimed at Farage like the rest of Labour are obsessed with him they should more worry about themselves on awful jobs they are doing.
Did he not see the amount of woman protesting in pink T shirts and union jacks does he not know or seen any people of non white description that were born in this country putting up flags and having the same opinion like middle aged white men because I know plenty.
Neville done this for reasons and to spark reaction and news columns with the timing because the conservative conference in Manchester 2 his mate Andy Burnham and 3 obsession Labour got with Farage.
Let’s be fair does anyone take any notice of the jumped up little ****K but he thinks its done what he and Labour wanted but probably will just back fire on him and Labour.

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08 Oct 2025 07:56:56
Oh he’s back with a new name, and no surprise this is his opinion.

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08 Oct 2025 08:00:40
Can a block not be put on this guys IP Eds? Does he not need a different email address to sign up or something? At least the people who voted for the new name in the poll were correct. Now being allowed to spread this vitriol with his ā€˜1st post’. Of course he’s Farage loving and abusive. For God sake.

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{Ed001's Note - I wish we could just do that, but these days they change constantly.}

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08 Oct 2025 08:53:07
GDS2, and describing himself adequately with asterisks. šŸ˜‚.

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08 Oct 2025 01:58:57
Ed007,

The problem is that social media gives them a platform and a chance to live in a bubble and echo chamber where they start to believe that everyone thinks like them as they only ever see people that agree with what they say.

If you go out in the real world most people are just nice people who want the best for everyone and will do anything for anyone.

Funny how the OP probably thought like on X he would get everyone agreeing with his nonsense but I’d like to hope that fortunately the people on here (odd little family that we are) are a little more open minded than that.

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{Ed007's Note - Spot on mate šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼

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08 Oct 2025 08:48:50
Ed007. You just educated me on a new word too, and I think you're correct šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.

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{Ed007's Note - šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼

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08 Oct 2025 15:02:22
IMO it was a very stupid thing to say, but he has a right to his opinion. The same people calling for his head were probably the same outraged that Charlie Kirk was gunned down for his opinions.

It was a disgrace what happened but calling for the head of someone else exercising free speech isn't the answer.

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08 Oct 2025 19:13:24
Like everything it gets twisted and pulled out of context.

Like everyone else he is entitled to his opinion and personally I don't think he said much I disagree with.

The problem is that a lot of people who fall into that category of middle aged white man have immediately got defensive and outraged. Yet they've done so without actually giving this comments any thought. Let's not forget Gary is himself a middle aged white man.


As a man in his late 30's I'm probably included in that middle aged white man category despite my protestations that I'm not middle aged yet. Certainly my students think I'm an old man šŸ˜‚


His comment wasn't "ALL" middle aged white men are the problem, he said that there are people who are driving division within our society, and that most of them are middle aged white men who ought to know better.

He hasn't even said that all of the people creating the division are middle aged white men.

The chief culprit is Nigel Farage, and when you see all the people who are saying similar things to him in the media it's hard not to agree that they are mostly men of a certain age and ethnicity.

Rather than get angry about it because you fall into the same category, how about speaking out against them.

Anyone who is trying to blame the issues in society on specific minority groups is only doing so to drive division and create tension amongst our society. It's the oldest trick in the book, divide and conquer. Look at Nigel Farage for example, as the country has become more divided his political position has got stronger, giving him more power and influence.

They are trying to manipulate you, and sadly are succeeding in a lot of cases. The saddest thing is that we have seen this all before, this was exactly the same things that were said and done during the 1920's and early 1930's in Germany. They didn't vote for the person party because they were evil people, the voted for them because they had been divided and made to believe that it was the Jews that were causing all the problems in their country.

Now it's immigrants, particularly Muslim ones. At least the Germans didn't have an example to understand the folly of their ways. If we go down the same route it'll be much worse and we will be far stupider for doing so as we do have an example to heed caution from. We will have no excuse.

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08 Oct 2025 19:18:01
Imo peoples grievances are more to do with the state of the country and the politicians allowing it to get this way with power to the few. Them same few manage to be able to infiltrate every way possible and cause the division whilst they stand on the podium watching and laughing as the next dystopian policy goes there way.

If life was good and everybody had money/ got along, nobody would bat an eye lid. One day it will all explode and it will be chaos and the end of how we see it today.

Gary Neville is telling people to stop doing the same thing he is doing which is voicing his opinion. Flag or not people are annoyed and are taking it out on the folk that get every seemingly for free.

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08 Oct 2025 20:27:33
Steve Hughes a very clever Aussie comedian does a great sketch on being offended.

And I quote:

ā€œBeing offended is subjective
It has everything to do with
you as an individual or collective or
group or society or community
Your moral conditioning
Your religious beliefs
What offends me
May not offend you
And you want to make laws about this?
I’m offended when I see boy bands
for God sake! ā€

Well worth a watch on you tube.

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08 Oct 2025 21:13:47
Or maybe Gary Neville is just starting his move into politics and his play for being the next mayor of Manchester if that role were to become vacant?

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{Ed007's Note - The late great Alfred Sidney Roberts, OBE has never been adequately replaced.}

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08 Oct 2025 21:39:42
You didn't post my 1st one ed? I was careful in writing it trying to give a little balance, this is not a page for politics though but not sure how it would be offensive?

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{Ed033's Note - Is this (below) your post? [Remember this is a football site not a political site, looke like you were 'careful'.]

08 Oct 2025 20:36:52
If this thread touches on politics and just naming Nigel Farage as decisive. I'd like to point out that all politicians are like this including Kier Starmer, he is just as bad adopting Refrom policies which won't work but subtly calling potential Reform supporters racist. The media and police are also directed by the government in their in their policies now regarding terminology and sentencing based on a person's "background".

The information about the attacker for instance was that he was "Syrian". Around 90% of Syria is Muslim. The Police were careful around their profile release.
There is a difference in the release of information as opposed to what the facts are which then gives more fuel to some sections on the spin. There are other terms of dumbing down that governments are trying to filter through but I'm not prepared to go into it as it's not right.

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09 Oct 2025 15:47:55
Supa,

Dread to think what your opinion is when you’re not careful.

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03 Oct 2025 02:57:23
Bring in Southgate.

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01 Oct 2025 06:52:34
Amorim in. He deserves the midfield his system needs. He’s identified the players we all wanted rid of and done it. He’s trying to improve player culture.

Whilst history doesn’t always repeat itself, the older fan base will remember the benefits of standing by a manager.

I’m staggered we’re letting players demolish a good manager - one that I remember Ed002 recommending for the position.

If you seriously believe 3-4-3 is the problem rather than the ability of the players than frankly, you deserve the lack of success we’re getting.

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01 Oct 2025 08:29:44
Well said BRD.

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01 Oct 2025 10:58:57
I don't think its the system that's the problem, but when everyone can see that its not working during a game, and the refusal to change, I think this is a big problem that he has.

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01 Oct 2025 11:01:52
I know I'm in the majority Fizz. But of the managers we've had since Sir Alex, Amorim is the one I have the most respect for (as a manager) .

We complain managers have no plan or philosophy. He does.

We complain managers aren't tough enough with players. He is.

I don't believe the formation is the issue at all. I just can't believe the short memories in here. Stick the usual suspects (Shaw, Cass, Ugarte, Dalot, Maguire etc. ) in any formation and they're unreliably crap!

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01 Oct 2025 11:49:54
Here here BRD.
Let's band together and form a group of Amorim IN posters. Any time there is a negative post, just post endless positive posts to drop them down into the abyss, where they belong!

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01 Oct 2025 11:53:25
BRD,

The problem is that the results just aren’t good enough, it’s as simple as that really. We can’t afford to just let the season drift, nobody here has any confidence that we will beat Sunderland at home, we are a mid table side that looks like they could at any point get dragged into a relegation battle if a few results go against us. We will win the odd game but he’s been unable to use any wins to create momentum, we’ve yet to win 2 in a row, we’ve not won an away game since Leicester in March and we have scraped through a couple of home games.

I like him, I want him to succeed, I want to blame the players and say he’s a great manager and needs time but he had to start this season well and we’ve been horrendous so far, performances started better but now we just look the same as last season.

I’m never one to just say ā€˜get rid’ and I like to try and give a balanced view rather than some posters who just come on here spouting their opinion as fact and saying people need to ā€˜wake up’ but it does feel like the results just haven’t been good enough and he will leave in November once the one year is up.

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01 Oct 2025 11:54:26
Play these players in a system they are more accustomed to and I think you will see the results will come.

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01 Oct 2025 12:18:30
ne99il

So we've spent over £200million on players in the summer that will only work in certain systems. give me a break!

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01 Oct 2025 12:47:26
Agree BRD.

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01 Oct 2025 13:36:14
BRD, you speak too much sense for this place.

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01 Oct 2025 14:01:31
This is nothing to do with the front 3 we bought, but if you play Bruno in his natural position and the defence in a system they are used to, yes I think you will see better results.

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01 Oct 2025 15:16:10
So move Bruno forward and who replaces him? Every option is inadequate. Bruno is the best option out of a truly poor bunch. Which feeds back to my OP which is Amorim needs better midfielders!

I just don't get this 'sack Amorim' when we are potentially just two players away from the beginning of his ideal system. When he has the players for 'his' system, then judge - and if necessary after a reasonable period replace him. But not until then!

Sacking him now is flawed, short-sighted thinking. I just hope INEOS have the balls to give him the January window and get him a shiny new midfielder (Anderson or Baleba, not Wharton) . They've got enough thick skin to make unpopular redundancies, so hopefully this too.

Because, and here's the issue. 442, 433, 352 -o your midfield will always be too weak until we invest in it. So why change manager? The same problem will still be there and the new manager will then face the same flack. It would also be cruel to sack Amorim when we forced him to come mid-season against his wishes.

People are crying for 4231, that's what ETH was doing? How was that any better?

Jeez. It's infuriating.

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01 Oct 2025 17:54:41
I feel your pain BRD.

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01 Oct 2025 18:37:59
Indeed Fizz. I just prey that if an average match going supporter like me can see the problem that Wilcox and co can.

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01 Oct 2025 20:01:21
Van Gaal was better than Amorim and he had a plan, philosophy and was hard on the players. You’re just plain wrong, Amorims a terrible manager in the English league. He isn’t willing to change which is exactly what he needs to do.

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01 Oct 2025 21:24:06
Forced to join against his wishes. You make it sound like he was smuggled away from Sporting in the middle of the night.

The argument against his system isn’t the formation, it’s the inability to coach it into these players after a year. It’s also his total lack of having a plan B during matches. It’s embarrassing. We finish games with a complete mish mash of players because we are chasing the game, like mason Mount at wing back.

The Grimsby game, we finished with 5 number 10’s on the pitch.

I kind of admire his integrity and the way he has gotten rid of some players but the bottom line is he's been absolutely s**t in coaching this team on the pitch.

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01 Oct 2025 21:43:11
If the players are as s**t as many say what do you expect? Utterly ludicrous arguments to expect coaching to make any difference with Maguire, Shaw, Dalot, Ugarte and even Bruno who’s been a headless chicken under every coach.

Yet more United supporters with no patience in a manager that’s barely been at the club. Yes it’s bad. I’m not arguing. But I do not agree he’s a bad manager.

The sample size is not big enough. Pep had longer. Klopp had longer. Arteta has had much longer.

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01 Oct 2025 21:43:59
Amorim in or out, I don't really care at the moment.

Regardless of any arguments, these are professional players and should be able to adapt to any system, if not perfectly, then at the very least to a minimum level required. If not then there is something intrinsically wrong. Not necessarily with United but with the modern player and coaching systems across the board.

Whilst I openly admit that I have drifted towards the negative with RA I do feel he needs to change something to get a few wins under his belt and then slowly return to his preferred system.

For his own mental and physical health if nothing else. He is a looking like a broken man and no job should do that to you. I hope the club support for him is genuine and he comes through this with flying colours.

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01 Oct 2025 22:17:55
I don't know a Uniyed fan that thinks he is right for us. Without exception they think a change is needed.

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01 Oct 2025 23:19:33
Amorim picks those 5 players nearly every game. No one has a gun to his head to make him pick them. Heaven, Yoro, mainoo could all play and at least u could say he’s reshaping the squad for the future. Instead he’s picking these others that we all know are poor and playing Bruno out of position where he’s a massive liability to the team. 4 of those 5 are also part of the leadership team chosen by RA himself. Doesn’t sound like a manager basing decisions on the future but rather the here and now.

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02 Oct 2025 09:06:32
And that’s the point Tim. Stop playing these players, or play another system/ formation to get the best out of them. that's what a head coach is there to do. And in that regard, Amorim has failed miserably.

Regardless his crap we think a lot of this lot are, they’re better than relegation fodder.

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02 Oct 2025 14:39:07
We are just 2 players away?

How about he just gets the best out of the players that are there.

With RA, for those that are for him, you all use hypotheticals, 'if this and if that'.

How about we actually judge upon what actually is? What is staring us in the face? 17 losses in 33 league games, 9 wins. That's his record, that's it. Players regressing, playing in positions that aren't suited to them.

We are 2 players away from the BEGINNING of his system. I mean, it's just not true is it? It's a hypothetical. The reality is staring us in the face. Not good enough, end of.

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02 Oct 2025 14:44:07
Systems, formations, tactics etc etc. He has done his bomb squad thing, he's signed Dorgu, Sesko, Mbuemo, Lemmens, Cunha and none of the new signings have even been able to do whatever he is asking.

He was unable to make last year's players better and we were told on here that we were very close to a great squad and all we needed to do was sack Erik Ten Hag, he was the problem.

It was there for us to see, he couldn't get the players that were already there to play better, in fact they all went backwards and now the new signings also look like that they're about to go backwards too.

Is this how far we have fallen as a club that this level of crap has become acceptable.

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02 Oct 2025 15:50:39
I do not believe it is acceptable. However, I do believe Amorim will get there given the same amount of time that others were afforded.

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02 Oct 2025 17:53:34
BRD, I love the optimism, I applaud it.

But time afforded to others was because they should us something in various periods. RA has been abysmal and has not shown anything to warrant time. Completely different to others.

Like I.

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02 Oct 2025 22:29:04
He’s done a terrible job.

And it’s time to say goodbye. Sadly, because I quite like his style.

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03 Oct 2025 07:37:46
Eric79

Give a chef predominantly sh*t ingredients, and they will serve you a sh*t meal

No midfield.
Shaw. Maguire.
Atrocious goalkeepers (Lemmens the unknown)

Inconsistent performances from the remainder.

Those are sh*t ingredients!

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03 Oct 2025 08:49:04
Its all good saying give him time if he was getting results. The fact is we have 13 games in the league between now and January, and if the average of 1 point per game continues, that gives us 20 points going into January, and that could realistically lead us into a relegation battle!

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29 Sep 2025 15:31:07
How i'd like to see Utd lineup against Sunderland:

Lammens


Yoro MdL heaven

Maz. Dorfu


Ugarte. Mainoo


Mbeumo. Cunha


Sesko



Ideally I'd prefer a 4231 formation, but that won't happen. If it did i'd have Bruno as the 10.

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30 Sep 2025 23:05:26
I would maybe try mbeumo at rwb. And then have space for Bruno in a 10 role.
I definitely wouldn’t have mainoo in the starting line up and def not in the midfield two, he doesn’t have the energy to play in the middle maybe as a 10 but we have better options. I would go for ugarte and Casemiro.
Dorgu has been so poor at lwb i would rather go for maz. Dalot should also be nowhere near being a starter. Happy with the 3 at the back the problems we have had is nothing to do with formations!

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01 Oct 2025 06:45:36
Twenty I was discussing the possibility of using our 10's as WB on both sides.
We are void of any actual WB on both sides, so why not give it a go. Even Cunha could drop to LWB if necessary.
A WB is 70% attack minded, so having a couple of dogged players in there like Cunha might not be such a bad play.

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01 Oct 2025 12:40:52
With this system the wb have to be attacking I think if you look at amorims sporting side he used more attack minded players in these positions and also with using cunha and mbeumo they have a very good work rate and stamina to occupy that role.

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02 Oct 2025 22:02:36
I'd go with this:

Lammens
Amad, Yoro, DeLigt, Maz, Shaw
Ugarte, Casemeiro
Mbuemo, Bruno
Sesko

Lammens, because it's as good a game as any to start him. Maz and Yoro can bring the ball out well from the back and they can use it well. Shaw's still our best left back imo. Use him where he's most effective. Just like Bruno.

That still leaves Cunha, Mount, Zirkzee and Mainoo to come on if needed.

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29 Sep 2025 11:35:52
I coach qn u14s side. we play 11v11 and when we started that last season I decided to try 3 at the back with 2 wingbacks to have more going forward.
It works great for us but think the reason is 1 WB was a winger and tge was a striker. Now them 2 between them are top scorers.
It works but only if they are attack minded. Dorgu and Dalot are not!
Dorgu as good strength and speed but I don't think I've seen a player with a final ball as bad as hes.

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30 Sep 2025 23:11:44
Dorgu has been very poor and dalot is not going to improve and should be sold. Would rather maz as a lwb and either amad or mbeumo at rwb and push Bruno into a 10 role
We are all critical of certain players not being good enough yet some posters criticise the manager not doing better. A lot of players are just not good enough. The formation isn’t the problem the players are and until that’s addressed we won’t go from 17th to top 4 and we all need to realistic and stop listening to the outside noise finishing anything above 8th should be acknowledged as improvement not a reason to sack the manager anyone who thinks different is deluded.

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