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17 May 2017 08:37:27
Haven't been on here that long and I pick up the eds and the posters find a lot of sources as very dubious and not reliable but a couple mentioning bale may like a return to England and would prefer a move to utd over Chelsea, anything in this or twaddle .


{Ed001's Note - according to those that know the lad very well, family, friends and former and current coaches of his, at least the ones I have managed to speak to, they all say he has no interest in leaving Spain and is really happy there. Unless Madrid want rid, which I have not heard of any genuine talk of that being the case just yet, it is highly unlikely he will be moving this summer. Money may talk I guess, but this is his dream, playing for Madrid.}

1.) 17 May 2017 11:21:28
Cheers mate, greizmann it is then hopefully if bale a none starter, damn talk sport building my hopes up.




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22 Sep 2019 23:19:36
Feelings on here seem pretty high and I pick up an undertone of a difference of opinion over why get rid of jose for ole
Jose at first was successfull if a little boring, this was ok aslong as the team were challenging but by the third season we were mid table, signings were awful and fans of any other team asked to describe us would say basically park the bus .
However I do get jose fans point as is this currently any better, things that looked fairly obvious before the season started are playing out, if pogba got injured the midfield looks awful, he's injured and it is, we will struggle down the right hand side of attack as we have added nobody, well yep same players, same result, and where will goals come from as the attack looks light without Lukaku, well again yep it does and now we have players with no record of being prolific and they feed on scraps .
Our exciting more attacking future after jose hasn't played out and it's more of the same, if I was ole I'd rather go out in a blaze of glory than a damp squib .
Lots of us will have seen the stat on tv about the 900 million spent since fergie, looking at the team today that's unbelievable, it's certainly not lac of investment but its shocking what it's been spent on .


1.) 22 Sep 2019 23:34:41
Re the money wasted agree totally.

2.) 22 Sep 2019 23:49:09
The fact that jose was a negative egotistical to put polite douch.

Ole went on a run and the amateurs again made the wrong choice but he needs time.

What should we do sack him and bring somone else in? Who? I would love to know who everyone whose calling for his head to tell me who should be manager.

Pep could take this side over and we would still be piss poor

The fact is we need at least 3 years including this one go sort the mess out

We are going to get more days like this than we are days like the chelsea game

I can't stand watching us but I do because united are my team and as much as I will moan and slate the team I will still watch them.

We need to give ole time and we need to stick buy what he is trying to do.

3.) 23 Sep 2019 01:01:40
Considering the amount spent on your squad since fergie left, and that your players are on the highest wages in world football, the talent in your squad is abysmal. The problem stems much higher than Ole, though keeping him around at this point is just going to result in his public humiliation.
All that and somehow you'll scrape a win over us next week i'm sure.



31 Aug 2019 20:25:12
I've been reading and posting on this site for a few year now, not aslong as most but a few years, if we can get past the ole needs jail and we will be relegated stuff can I just offer a few thoughts.

Our attack hasn't been great for years, these are a few theories I've seen hotly debated on here.

If we had a better defensive midfielder the attack would have more freedom and be much better, matic signs, no difference.

If smalling was replaced we could be more attacking as there would be more confidence in the defense, numerous CBS, no difference .

We need rid of young a new RB will make us more attacking, I like our RBS we bought but they are rbs, no difference.

To me for bloody years now the reason we aren't great at attacking is way more simple and way more obvious our right side attacker and our number ten type player have been way inferior to our main opposition . We get very few goals and very few assists and yet everybody from CB to rb have been named as the culprits . The left side of attack has been patchy but has chipped in with goals .

I have found myself for years now watching combos like today's of mata and perriera or whatever combo we have used and thinking is this not obvious .


1.) 31 Aug 2019 21:08:04
Couldn’t agree more slate, imagine bringing Maddison and Sancho into this side. We would be a much bigger threat going forward.

2.) 31 Aug 2019 21:31:57
if we don't get top 4 they will not come.

3.) 31 Aug 2019 23:56:34
Finally someone who agrees we need a right winger. We'll actually have chances being created from either side and won't need wan bissaka to come so high up the pitch and keep him in stronger position defensively. As for CAM, We need someone world class who won't cost the earth, I feel like we missed that trick with fernandes.



28 Aug 2019 21:10:15
Just a take in where we are at and why feelings may run high .

Jose had a pretty great track record in coaching but let's all be honest we were mid table playing dire football, he had fell out with players and was picking fights with the press it wasn't good .

Jose left mid season and we appointed ole to see the season out while we decided our future direction .

We had a blank canvas how did we want the club to move forward all possibilities should of been explored .

The problem was we had said to ole get us to the end of the season while we sort a way forward, ole started doing well and it became a job interview, ole kept doing well and for some reason he was appointed before we knew how the season would unfold, if we had waite and done what we planned and seen the season out I doubt he'd have got the job .
Here's where peoples opinions split as ole did do quite well but others thinking we had a blank canvas to move forward though of all the options we had was that really the best one, and they had a point as the answer is of course not .

We have him now though even though many wouldn't have chosen this route, we have to judge him on what he does and not what we suspect he will do wether that be good or bad .

Shappy asks below how do we judge him, my answer would be same as any other manager, young, old, experienced or inexperienced, the bar since fergie seems to be make champions league .

Picking young players is no skill I could tell my mam to do that if she was manager, but picking young players and achieving good results is a skill .
We should all have tolerance for other peoples views as it's easy to think how they come to them normally.

Wether you wanted ole or not get behind him, he will live or die by how he actually does, the table is meaningless at the moment, we know city and liverpool we are unlikely to be anywhere near, spurs may well over a season have us out gunned but our position relative to arsenal and Chelsea looks to me like what determines things.


1.) 28 Aug 2019 22:24:47
Good post, Slate. Not everything's rosy with Spurs either, to be fair. If we can get a consistent run, I think we can make top 4, possibly even top 3, but City and Liverpool apart, you could toss a coin for another of the other usual top 4 teams.



20 Aug 2019 10:05:39
I quite enjoyed last night's game but to be fair it duznt take too much for it to be more enjoyable than what we have seen in recent years.
We had control for large parts of the game and have lots of pace, however we looked a little short on guile to create good chances . But again to be fair we have had two tricky looking games against Chelsea and wolves and have scored 5 and missed a pen .
You would think now OLE needs to step in and tell pogba his record on pens isn't good enough to warrant being the taker and it's rashfords job now .




30 Jul 2019 11:20:53
Looking forward to the season starting, I enjoyed the cricket world cup and I can get into the tactics of the tour de France but ready for the football now.
Hopefully we will improve ddg looks like staying and he's a top keeper who hopefully just had an off season .
The defense has added wan bissaka and probs will add yet another CB . Hard to comment on the midfield as it may look different next week . I think top teams with better technical midfielders caused us possession problems last season in big matches, I'm not sure if it was by design and us sitting behind the ball or wether we were given little choice, mctom is winning me over I thought limited at first but he's beginning to look a powerful midfielder, I'm not sure I'd want him and matic in the same team tho .
The city and Liverpool front 3s will be looking for 60 goals between them and while we have players with bags of potential upfront it's time they up their numbers as to challenge they will have to.
I'm still concerned about right side of attack as teams above us will get a lot of goals from there but hopefully we have worked on a solution wether with a current player or a new recruit or even a youngster breaking through .
Things could look very different in a week .


1.) 30 Jul 2019 12:23:14
Good Post Slate, if any one of Rashford or Martial crosses the 20 goal mark then we will be finishing in top 4. If we sign Fernades and Maguire than this would be our best window for some time. McTominay has to start games but not alongside Matic (he is yet to get back to his full fitness i believe) . My only worry would be a right sided attacker, players like Lingard and Mata "CAN" do a job there but that's not their natural position. I hope we at least give it a go at Ziyech, at 25 mil he would be worth a try.




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14 Dec 2018 09:50:52
I agree Ken we don't have a squad good enough to win the league however why is that.
We have bought 11 players under the manager that's an entire new team. Currently he inherited a great GK has bought his own players for 3 of the back 4 positions, an entire new 3 man midfield, a striker and a wideman .
Many players people feel maybe aren't good enough are still go to players and if they are given new deals it's hard to blame the tools he was left .




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12 Nov 2018 20:54:51
You make very articulate points about structure, outlay and ownership redman and I enjoy reading yr posts without always agreeing. There may be many issues at the club but we have been 19 and 23 points adrift and are currently 12 points behind but in all likelihood heading for twenty odd behind and we are currently in November behind Watford and Bournemouth .

Our football is often awful and our team for the money spent on it should be way better. We looked a bit out of our depth against city and maybe it's because they have spent more but by that logic we should be better than most if not all other teams in the world bar city. I think people can find it hard to hear about all areas where things aren't going to well but very little said about the obvious to some main thing, the managers results, style and transfer record.

i'm not sure what evidence there is that refutes every player we have bought was run past and agreed with Jose. To on the whole not mention Jose much but point out all the other things wrong with the club to me is like someone holding yr head underwater in the bath and pointing out the tap is running too fast and the waters too deep but then not really mentioning the hand holding year head underwater.




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06 May 2018 21:09:25
I think the whole do you blame players or the manager thing needs consistency if you feel it's not the managers fault when players performance or attitude are poor as he's not out on the pitch and can't be held accountable when they cross the line that's fine but why praise him when performance and attitude is good when you feel it was nothing to do with him when it wasn't.
To me the buck stops with the manager good or bad . I don't like the way he has us playing most of the time but we are second and in a cup final and as I say buck stops with the manager so to me that's worthy of another chance to make a title challenge . I may like others suspect we are as likely to slip back as keep going forward but that hasn't happened yet . If we do well next year IL praise the manager if we don't IL hold him accountable what I won't do is say he's great when we win but it's the players fault when we lose and nothing to do with him .




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14 Nov 2017 10:35:43
I'm a big bale fan and would have loved us to get him last summer, other posters pointed out it was to risky as he's injured a lot and now to be honest they are being proved correct . Very hard to justify big fee and big wages .




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17 Jul 2017 14:13:18
If there was an acceptance ddg was leaving it would be a big call not to take kroos if it shown to be possible, played for some good sides but made them better a serial trophy winner, you'd need a pretty special side not to fit him in, not realy a destroyer though but offers massive control of a game against good sides to imo.





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31 Aug 2019 18:56:24
My goodness redman, I wasnt the biggest fan of hiring ole and you may well have a point that he won't prove a wise decision, but have you a jose tattoo or something, we were awful to watch and in mid table chasing Bournemouth and Watford and this wasnt a couple of games in where the table changes drastically on one result it was mid season .
I'm guessing if we find ourselves in the position jose had us at the same point in the season you will judge ole totally different .
Theres not a better type of mid table depending on a cv .
We lack an attacking midfielder and a right sided attacker pretty much as we did under jose.




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27 Aug 2019 23:27:46
I think Redman has every rite to state in his view Moyes and ole were and are not good enough for United.
I think the perception though is under Jose when it was pretty obvious Olympus had fallen it came across as it can't have he has a good cv .
Your a great poster Redman as wether people agree or disagree you spark interesting debate.




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26 Aug 2019 21:25:00
Interesting debate personally I don't really care about cv or sentimentality for former players . there's probably a dozen or so clubs around Europe where when a manager takes a job, he knows he will be paid well, have money to spend and performance, results and league position will dictate how long he is there, United are one of those clubs and we are not unique .
Give the man a fair chance and get behind him and hopefully good things will happen, if he comes up short no matter what we think his days will be numbered . I think too early to make any judgements yet .




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08 Aug 2019 23:38:47
I'm a pogba fan and like him but he has been bad at least as often as he's been good since joining, mctom looks like he's much improved and looking a pretty powerful midfielder but hardly creative, the back ups in my opinion matic Fred and perriera aren't elite footballers .
We will have days when pog and mctom are on song and look fine and no apparent problem but I can see days where we are firmly planted on the backfoot and with an injury or suspension before a top class opponent a pretty big problem .
The midfield was often disappointing last season and many thought Herrera was better than most of them in our midfield, I'm not too sure how being weaker in midfield than last season, when last season wasn't good isn't a problem .
I don't mean to be doom and gloom good keeper, good defense, forward line with bags of potential but surprises me finishing so low last season and starting with a weaker midfield than last season .




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29 Jul 2019 22:03:45
I don't think transfer window can even be attempted to be judged till it's over at the minute it's like watching a 1500 meter race but not watching the sprint finish .
There's looks to be good signs in the pre season friendlies but then again there have been good signs in those games in other years aswell .
Alot of the areas that we know we lag way behind on haven't been addressed but it's a time for patience as they may well be before the window closes and a fair assessment can be made soon when things become facts and not speculation.