Manchester United banter 2

07 May 2024 01:52:21
Crazy game today but these things happen in football and I think this game might have sealed the sack of ETH.

06 May 2024 23:11:16
Ten Hag: "This is the fourth defeat in this calendar year, so that's not a lot and every time, we had huge problems. "

I'm not sure what to say on that.

07 May 2024 05:06:31
What do you want him to say Tim? We had no centrebacks. appartently evans failed a late fitness test and still played - sacrificing himself. Cas was terrible, but playing at CB. Wan bissska awful, but at leftback.

Onana was woeful tonight, and ten hag pushed for him. He was very good last year, been poor this while season.

If you didn't think we could lose tonight then you haven't paid CP enough respect recently. Check their results against good sides. They can defend well, and very dangerous on the break.

Just need this season to end and hopefully some of theee players leave and fresh ideas and effort shows up next year.

07 May 2024 06:55:30
It's not just CP Dodgy, at this stage any team can really score 4 or more goals against us. We are really this poor.

07 May 2024 07:18:43
I’m not sure Tim, you said yourself that you weren’t expecting anything. That’s sensible given the selection of players available for an away trip to a side playing really well.

My main disappointment is the scoreline, we shouldn’t be shipping 4 regardless of who plays. But when you look at Casemiro you can understand why. He’s gone from hero to zero in 12 months. That flop he did for the first goal was an embarrassment. What was he doing?

Evans shouldn’t get a free pass either for that poor attempt of a tackle on Mateta.

Wan Bissaka. I’ve made my thoughts on him clear enough. Nothing personal against the lad. He is a very poor footballer who can’t play right back let alone left back. He has zero technique and is very poor positionally, constantly playing people onside or getting caught out of position. Another head scratcher from the scouts.

07 May 2024 09:04:49
Wazza, it’s the total lack of desire and commitment that annoys me. Also surely we can set up in some way to at least be competitive?! Injuries are bad but surely there’s more can be done by the coaching staff and especially the players.

07 May 2024 10:52:42
Wazza eth played 9 of his signings / players he promoted last night. We played 2 players out of position. This is eth's team the players he brought in.

07 May 2024 12:37:48
With an injured Evan's and cassemiro at CB, wan Bissaka at LB, Eriksen CM. Not sure why everyone is surprised, that was a tough game with a fit squad.

06 May 2024 22:56:02
I'm not sure what people expected tonight.

Our back four included Casemiro who is badly showing signs of decline in his best position let alone being forced to play in a different position. With a 36 year old Evans alongside him. At LB we had AWB who isn't even good enough to start for us in his best position.

Protecting that back four was a 19 year old kid who has less than 20 starts to his name, along side a player with a pacemaker also playing out of position and unable to play for more than 60 minutes.

Further forward we have a 20 year old striker whose adapting to the league. Mount making what his 4th start due to injuries, and Antony who 100% has a fake passport. Brazilian my arse.

Then looking over to the bench for support and who do we have?

Amad and Amrabat were the only outfield players with a start for us. Wheatley the only one of the five academy lads with any minutes for the first team at all, and a couple of goalkeepers to make up the numbers.

This squad is absolutely bare bones, with it's ragged arse on the floor.

Palace were the home side on a bit of a positive bounce under their new manager.

We were never going to get much from this game, and I'd defy any side in a similar situation to do much better.

07 May 2024 01:29:21
Again I do not think anybody was expecting anything other than some desire and effort which was again lacking.

We have a 20 year old adapting to a league yes, but he will be 24 and adapting unless we give him some service to learn from!

He could have brought one of the youngsters on for some minutes instead of Amrabat. We may need them if the injuries continue and risk going into FA Cup with players on their first senior start.

Nothing else to say. Nothing can be said. Hard times.

07 May 2024 05:39:59
There so many that were just poor. when you get hammered like this its not just one or two players. 5 or 6 who were just awful. Some of the players have to go and just terrible to watch as footballers. Poor touch, passing, decision making and positioning all game.

Good palace team and that front 3 was always going to run circles around our back 4. the midfeilders all collectively were so poor and did not help a make shift back 4. Garnacho and dalot only players who did not embarrass themselves.

Elephant in the room but going to say Hoiland is poor and so far off a striker leading the line.

07 May 2024 06:09:39
I expect the manager to learn from his tactical mistakes and still sending the team out to do the same thing every game and end up conceding the same way.

I get what your saying barebones squad always a struggle no legs lots of players out of position.

So why play 2 high 8s still? Why force your fullbacks high or invert them? Why make your wingers so narrow and easy to mark?

Yes I didn't expect much yes the players didn't deliver much, but the manager has continued with a tactic and style that's been found out even when the majority of the first team play it what did he think would happen when the team put out last night tried to play it, we all expected it why didn't he?

07 May 2024 06:15:36
Perhaps Shappy when we are short of CB we look at why yet another injury to one was picked up in training. Surely at this stage of the season knowing the CB situation you wrap up what you have in cotton wool to get them from game to game, but not ETH. Maybe you will talk about tactics, as dictated because that first goal would not have been conceded in most Sunday pub teams. We didn’t get behind the ball, surely we should know how to set ourselves.

07 May 2024 07:20:13
Pretty much sums it up Shappy. We are not the Manchester United of old.

07 May 2024 11:25:49
Your right wazza and with eth at the helm we will nene get back competing. He is not the right manager.
Can you name the good players he signed for ajax and Manchester United.

06 May 2024 22:26:12
Could EtH have picked a better team from those available? Could he have done anything tactical for that team to play better?
It’s a bloody mess but surely it all can’t be down to just the manager?
An eleven year low point - and no chance of top 7 now….

07 May 2024 07:44:41
Not often I would agree with Jamie Carragher but we appear to be one of the worst coached teams in the league. The first goal was a picture of how not to set up, how not to get behind the ball. How have we had so many training injuries? When we were getting training injuries and at a key point of the season our CB in tatters ETH doesn’t take care of them and we get more injuries. Accountability doesn’t go away.

06 May 2024 22:07:42
I know a number of posters on here want eth to stay on next year. It's not my choice as tactically I think he's limited and he's been found out massively in a bigger league. But never mind that, honestly how could ineos justify keeping him after this season? I predict we will lose all our remaining games and the cup final. Should that happen then surely it's a hard sell to the fans to persist with the manager? Also we are hardly an attractive proposition to new signings are we.

06 May 2024 22:34:35
Can't understand anyone's reasoning in keeping him.
Signings woeful
Set up woeful
No patterns of play
This is how he wants us to play. It's a joke.

06 May 2024 22:40:32
🥱🥱🥱.

07 May 2024 08:31:37
Said on the other page, his postion is now untenable. Every single player had that look on their face last night - they know it too, and a good 50% cannot wait to get out of there too.

07 May 2024 09:06:38
Let the door hit them on their arse on the way out.

06 May 2024 22:01:05
As bad as it gets, you can add Mount to list to go too, the only players who are trying are Garnacho, Mainoo and Dalot Ralf was so right when he said open heart surgery, the entire spine of the team needs replacing. Hopefully Sir Jim can help us.

06 May 2024 22:40:19
Yes, Jose, Ralf, EtH have all said the squad needs an overhaul, which is in the process of happening.
Finally the board are actioning the calls for the overhaul.

06 May 2024 23:14:32
What do you mean ralf was right. Eth brought 9 of those starting tonight into the teM.
Only t he 2 full backs were not eth players.
This is not a case of the same players throwing a manager under the bus these were all eth signing or players who came from our academy.

Stop this nonsense of its the same old players. Its not this was full of eths hand picks.

07 May 2024 06:51:47
That wasn't what I was referring to, but you go and jump in there champ.

They referred to the whole setup needing a change, just so that your next reply is aligned to actual topic.

07 May 2024 07:29:32
Ken do you think ETH’s first choice was Johnny Evans?

06 May 2024 21:35:22
Please get ten hag out of our club, he's awful, he's alienated sancho and rashford, if we sell rashford and he goes somewhere and finds form like sancho it will be unforgivable, too many players are injury prone, I hope sir Jim, sorts this mess out asap, as players we hope to sign will go elsewhere rather than join our mess, we need Ashworth in now, and a new manager in before the end of the season, to give a glimpse of how it could be, whether it's zidane, or tuchel. And stop buying players that are past it.
Rant over.

06 May 2024 22:39:04
Sancho hasn't found form. he's had one decent game, and even then Dortmund didn't put PSG game to bed.

06 May 2024 22:45:54
The same rashfird who’s been poor all season

Hardly runs back doesn’t make runs in behind

Same sancho he let have months off “to find himself”

The manager is far down the list of who should be gone.

06 May 2024 23:17:08
He is gone in the summer. He knows it we know it everybody knows it except for a few delusional people still buying eth's bull.
No way sjr and team are buying his rubbish.
There were a few that defended ole till the end too.
But we just have to sack it up until he is sent packing.
Can't wait.

07 May 2024 00:35:56
Rashford will never find his form. Might play well few games but that is it. He has been the same for last 8 9 years and that won't change.

Sancho TBH i wouldn't say has found his form. He played really well last week but that is it. He has been there for 5 months and has scored 3 goals with numerous below average performance.

Attitude wise as well, I would much rather see both of these players leave.

07 May 2024 06:56:34
Absolute plastic fans. That's what this club should get rid of, before even Casemiro! An absolute disgrace to call yourself fans.

To think anyone defending Sancho and using one game as a reason to attack the current sitting manager, can even attempt to call themself a fan is a national disgrace.

07 May 2024 10:39:58
That's right Jim. Your the tp man .

07 May 2024 10:47:47
A national disgrace🤣🤣 jeepers someone call the police. Sorry MI 5.
It's of national importance🤣🤣🤣.

07 May 2024 12:12:38
Wow, I know there's insane amount of injuries but that was bad! Where do we go as a club from here. one good thing thou, the away support was fantastic. Those players simply don't deserve that support.

05 May 2024 18:15:33
Maguire out now for 3 weeks. Evans our only cb. Surely someone has to be looking at the training methods because this season has been beyond a joke.

05 May 2024 20:41:56
He was carrying an injury, but sacrificed himself last game because he was our only fit CB. I imagine his body has now broken down after playing with injury. This season we have been decimated with injury, no fit CB, one fit full back, it has had a huge impact.

06 May 2024 07:14:33
Louis Jackson might get his chance, it will be good to see some of the academy step up, see if they can be part of the squad for next year.

06 May 2024 09:03:06
Despite the fact I don’t rate Maguire one bit this is actually good news. Now it seems we are forced into playing youth. Given that Europe is all but gone which is bad news it allows us to see what’s on the table as far as acadamy players are concerned.

06 May 2024 11:48:14
I think there’s a big difference between giving youth a chance and chucking a young lad into a defence leaking goals alongside a midfielder who’s past it. Very hard for a young player in these circumstances.

06 May 2024 12:39:20
Yes Danny it's a tough call. It's a pretty daunting but a huge opportunity for a young player.
How unlucky is big willy. It was a great opportunity for him.
How we have nearly 50% more muscle injuries over the nearest other club for muscle injuries is beyond me.
It's simply not down to bad luck. It has to be down to something we are doing or not doing. It's crazy.

05 May 2024 18:09:30
So it's looking increasingly more like an 8th placed finish and no Europe next year. While that sounds like a disaster for a club like United it's a fair reflection of where we are and maybe isn't a bad thing. Yes it will make it harder to attract players, yes the accountants won't be happy but a smaller squad and more time on the training pitch might be beneficial. Let's face it we've been awful this year and our league position now reflects that, hopefully the ineos mantra will move us onwards and upwards from next season on. We can only live in hope.

05 May 2024 19:47:21
If the number of injuries in training continues at the same pace, more time on the training field will be a disaster, particularly with a smaller squad!

But, basically, I agree, a year without the extra games any European endeavor would require could be advantageous in the long term. It will also save me from having to pay for a year of streaming to watch us play a bunch of mediocre European teams in a meaningless competition relative to our past stature. a competition which has no upside since anything other than winning it would be an embarrassment.

05 May 2024 19:57:05
It might aid the club in offloading players in the summer aswell. There won't be the need to have such a large squad and hopefully a few spaces can be filled by promoting a few youth players.

05 May 2024 20:05:14
More time on the training pitch. We’ll get even more injuries!

05 May 2024 20:07:12
Why is that Tim? We haven’t played this weekend yet.

05 May 2024 22:42:46
I’m not confident wazza that’s why. I’m not sure we will win any of our last 4 games. Large volume of Injuries, poor form and the level of opponent aren’t giving me much hope.

06 May 2024 04:24:03
Past stature. Nailed it right there.

06 May 2024 23:26:07
Good post Tim I'd say your right 8th or 9th looks likely.
Good foresight from you but to be fair it didn't take genius to work it out🤣 only a fool would not have suspected that result.

05 May 2024 18:04:17
Maguire has picked up a muscle injury.

Do we have any returning CB's or will we see McCas at the back?

05 May 2024 18:22:35
Isn’t mctominay injured too?

05 May 2024 20:07:35
Ah yes he went off didn’t he!