Manchester United Banter Archive January 14 2018

14 Jan 2018 22:47:12
Good luck to Giggsy, reported that he will be new Wales manager.

15 Jan 2018 00:50:22
Glad he's got a decent job, now to see what he is about as a manager.

14 Jan 2018 22:11:02
Just read Giggs has got the Wales job on a 4.5 year deal - how do you spell 'RISKY'?! Good luck to him, but I don't think he has what it takes, would be a shame to waste this generation of Welsh players.

14 Jan 2018 22:14:50
Interview went like this:

FA: Are you Ryan Giggs?

Giggs: Yes

FA: Great, when can you start?

15 Jan 2018 00:15:17
to right all the young managers trying to work there way up must think we have no chance as mutch giggsy was a great player done nothing to deserve it.

15 Jan 2018 09:07:26
Hughes started the same. i'm sure he will do well. The knowledge of the game and his football brain will help him. Good luck Giggsy! Time to finally tear apart the international scene!

15 Jan 2018 00:15:17
to right all the young managers trying to work there way up must think we have no chance as mutch giggsy was a great player done nothing to deserve it.

14 Jan 2018 20:59:39
Alexis Sanchez is a red. Get in, what a fantastic signing.

14 Jan 2018 21:24:20
Not yet, I will believe it when he is holding the Jersey.

14 Jan 2018 22:08:04
I just came back from a long walk and all the way I was hoping to see a message like this when i got back. Hope it's not BS, he is just the tonic we need to galvanise the season and maybe the next few years.

14 Jan 2018 23:52:32
Defo love to see him at o. t are new no.7 running amd taking men on with martial on other wing . Fingers.

15 Jan 2018 07:37:39
Just out of interest where would you see him playing for us THIS season IF he joins.

14 Jan 2018 18:14:57
A brilliant game well done city and Liverpool for a thoroughly enjoyable spectacle on a plus note I come away from that game knowing 2 things 1, city are not unbeatable and 2, both teams defences are somewhat comical at times.

14 Jan 2018 18:54:17
and that both teams play football the correct way and have amazing attacking players :)

14 Jan 2018 18:54:17
and that both teams play football the correct way and have amazing attacking players :)

14 Jan 2018 19:15:14
Heard you the 1st time mate 😂.

14 Jan 2018 20:37:33
If you consider the correct way going away from home and conceding 4 goals then that is alarming! I thought city were pretty poor today.

14 Jan 2018 23:14:13
Two dodgy defences, yet we approached the games against both in such a negative fashion. That's what's frustrating.

14 Jan 2018 17:52:20
Is Klopp Keegan in Disguise.? Fair play to both teams great match today at Anfield but it does show that both have suspect defences.

14 Jan 2018 18:00:21
I’ve said it all season, they’re on the up. They’ve signed VVD which improves them. When they get Keita ( who is top class ) and finally get a good keeper they’re title challengers. I have them finishing 2nd in AJH competition and stand by that.

14 Jan 2018 22:24:39
And don't forget Pulisic to Liverpool next summer too
😃👍🏼.

14 Jan 2018 17:33:31
Liverpool showing how to play against city. Perhaps a point away at Anfield was a good point.

14 Jan 2018 17:19:46
Wenger says we'll know more about Sanchez in the next 48 hours. Also I'm right in saying he's allowed to play CL for us? If so fantastic.

14 Jan 2018 17:28:09
Yes Dan both he and Ozil would be able to play like wise Mickhi could play in the Europa.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not correct.}

14 Jan 2018 17:38:05
Only 1 would be allowed.

14 Jan 2018 17:42:57
So 1 player per club is allowed to make the switch ed?

{Ed002's Note - If Manchester United add five players this month, all of whom have played in the Europa League, only one can be registered for the Champions League.}

14 Jan 2018 17:52:49
Ozil has not played in the Europa league not sure if that makes a difference I suspect it does.

{Ed002's Note - It does.}

14 Jan 2018 18:24:48
Thanks ed. What are your views on sanchez ed? Some say he has been unpopular at aresenal dressing room. But seems to be a real winner and he looks to have a great attitude to me. Is he known to be difficult? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea if he is popular or not. He has been seen to be demanding of other players which doesn't always go down well. Regardless, he will be gone soon so talk can turn to a replacement.}

14 Jan 2018 18:50:37
That's the sort of attitude we need at united its been missing from toomammy for too long. Players should be demanding the best from those around them all the time. The standards should never be allowed to drop. I can imagine that that upsets the lazy alright and those set in their ways.

14 Jan 2018 18:47:28
Where do you believe he will end up Ed in your humble opinion?

{Ed002's Note - Manchester.}

14 Jan 2018 18:50:37
That's the sort of attitude we need at united its been missing from toomammy for too long. Players should be demanding the best from those around them all the time. The standards should never be allowed to drop. I can imagine that that upsets the lazy alright and those set in their ways.

14 Jan 2018 19:35:23
Agree Ken. Just saying last night how much I miss players like Keane. As soon as your standard slipped he would be on them. He lived a breathed the club and the standards set by those before him. Could you imagine if Keane was still playing and gave a MUTV interview on the players now? That would be top viewing.

14 Jan 2018 20:49:09
Yep no leader really since vidic and Rio retired. Keane could be like he was because he (from 26 onwards) lived up to the standards he expected from others himself. Sure he let himself and the club down on many an occasion but in regards to training and application on and off the pitch he set the standard in so many ways. And God help you if you were not doing likewise.
Sanchez will demand more from those around him. Less sloppy passes quicker and better decisions. All our attackers can learn from him just by training with him.
I believe all our attackers will respond and up their game and enjoy the benefits of having a player like him to play with and hopfully it will help move them all onto another level all together.
Of course nobody thinks he will change our team and fortunes overnight but i think having a player like him will bring more excitement and end product in the final third.

14 Jan 2018 21:24:27
I agree Ken, although we all said this about Ibra as well.

14 Jan 2018 17:07:18
Any truth in the rumour sanchez has signed for us? thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation.}

14 Jan 2018 17:27:05
sorry knew poster must of missed it.

14 Jan 2018 14:33:04
I've seen all the hype around Sanchez and must admit I'm excited about the prospect if him being part of our attack. Him being missing from the arsenal line up today looks like he's on the move. But has anyone noticed that Ozil is also missing. Could he be on the move as Well? If so, where do we stand on that?

Two amazing players coming to the end of their contracts and neither of them cup tied for the champions league.

Could it be or am I just being too optimistic?

14 Jan 2018 15:21:42
If Carlsberg did transfer windows blah blah blah. That would be deal of The century😁.

14 Jan 2018 17:00:39
massive reach here but maybe we could exchange players in the deal. Arsenal know both will leave for nothing else in the summer. They would then have to replace Ozil and Sanchez as well as get in other players to strengthen a poor squad. If we could throw some players into the deal it would be the best they could hope from a dire situation. Maybe some of Miki, Smalling, Romero, Shaw and cash going the other way would be an acceptable offer for arsenal to allow their two best players to leave in this window. Like i say a bit of a reach but let a man dream a little lol.

14 Jan 2018 13:07:05
I find it funny how many said just six months ago that Sanchez was a mercenary and over rated, and that he wouldn't improve City all that much. Yet now he is the Messiah and the missing link. A player who can carry us to greatness on his own like he has done countless times for Arsenal over the last four years.

The simple fact is Sanchez is a very good player, on his day he is unplayable. But like many players he does struggle with maintaining that absolute highest level he is capable of.

None of Europe's elite clubs are interested in him even though he is potentially available on a free. PSG have sniffed around but have dropped short of making a concerted effort to sign him. Real Madrid and Barcelona have no interest neither does Bayern Munich who are about to lose Robben and Ribery so are I need of a player like Sanchez. Yet none of them have come in for him.
Why?

Chelsea aren't that interested and now City might be walking away from a deal for him.

Does none of this smell funny to you?

14 Jan 2018 13:19:40
Clubs mentioned don't want to pay 350000 a week.

14 Jan 2018 13:30:35
Yes Shappy because the biggest club and the best manager in the world is interested in signing him. No prizes for guessing that i am talking about Manchester United. Its the third post today from you that we shouldn't be after Sanchez. You don't like him much do you?

14 Jan 2018 13:32:47
Is this a joke Shappy? He is world class and has been one of the best players in the premier since he has been here. The only reason why nobody else is in for him is they don’t want to have to pay what is needed to get him. We complain that we don’t pay what’s needed to be paid like city and then when we do pay up people complain. IF he joins it will be a stunning signing and a statement to the rest of Europe. We are on an upward trajectory, albeit a slow one, and this signing will make us a very attractive proposition for new players in the summer.

14 Jan 2018 13:24:11
Sanchez really wouldn't improve City much but would definitely improve United. PSG need to comply with FPP for Mbappe next season. Chelsea might be interested if the board is not tight on budget.

14 Jan 2018 13:27:20
Chelsea not interested because of wages and costs involved, Conte wants him and City have no space for him and costs involved are problem for now.

14 Jan 2018 13:29:15
PSG and Bayern were put off by wage demand, not being able to afford him doest make them not interested.

14 Jan 2018 13:48:57
No shappy it smells of lavender a d roses to me. He is miles Beyer than any forward we have I know your not happy so we will listen to you moan at every mistake he makes but I'd suggest the vast majority would like sanchez to sign.
Keep pedalling your fears though its quite amusing.

14 Jan 2018 13:57:16
Sanchez would be a great signing we have no one even remotely as good in our attacking positions we have as yet unfulfilled potential .

The fact he can also play in the UCL is an added bonus .

When signing a player as a fan I think it's very simple ask yourself wether he would improve the team? Imo opinion the answer is an absolute yes.

14 Jan 2018 14:31:31
I think it was quite the opposite on this pages 6 months ago, people were saying we should move heaven and earth to get him instead of Griezmann, even though there hadn’t been any links to him since his Udinese days. Being prem proven and not injury prone had most people wanting him over Griezmann or Bale, two players we were heavily linked to.

14 Jan 2018 14:36:23
He’s world class. And right now we only have DDG in that bracket and Pogba is close. I’m on holiday in Mexico checking my phone for updates every 5 mins! I’d be very happy if we somehow pulled it off.

14 Jan 2018 14:50:21
Odd post from You shaps. Not sure what smells funny. World class would be a great addition.

14 Jan 2018 14:53:12
Sorry shappy but i don't remember anybody saying they wouldn't take sanchez IF he was available.

For me he is a must IF he is willing to join us.

14 Jan 2018 15:34:56
Wasn’t Bayern interested in the summer?

14 Jan 2018 17:02:50
does that mean nobody else wanted Neymar as only PSG bid that amount?

14 Jan 2018 17:10:23
I would be interested to see the posts slagging him off 6 months ago, I think most said they wanted him and were surprised we hadn’t put a bid in. You obviously don’t like the player Shappy but that seems strange as he would improve us massively.

14 Jan 2018 19:22:01
Shappy weren't PSG interested in summer but did not pursue further because they like everyone thought deal to city was done and now with the team they have they don't really need him. Also Barcelona sold him because he and Messi had issues why would they go back and him being a ex Barcelona player and not a big enough name means Perez isn't interested either.

With city and it seems a mix of above and bit of hubris, much like alves deal they thought they had this one on the bag because of pep but as PSG showed earlier and we seem to be doing now city aren't madrid or Barcelona even if they might think so.

Also about him not being consistent enough he has 60 goals and 25 assists in 122 games for Arsenal in epl, that seems consistent enough for me.

14 Jan 2018 11:36:42
Am I the only one who is starting to think that the Sanchez transfer is starting to feel a little like the the EVO one. I never thought we'd get that over the line but there is more and more noise just like there was then that it is quite likely.

He has been left out of the squad today so either way this could end soon.

Eds if we do get him would that suggest that we would not need to move for Bale or would Ed Wooodwoodwoodwood still was his broken plaything?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - If Sanchez were to join it would very likely remove the possibility of Bale.}

14 Jan 2018 12:47:46
Wengers comments muddied the water just then, saying Sanchez is being vague and he doesn’t know which way it will go.

14 Jan 2018 14:00:24
Sorry should have read rvp.

14 Jan 2018 14:00:54
As always thanks ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

14 Jan 2018 19:21:41
The fact that we won't target bale should be enough reason to sign Alexis.

Also am I banned or something? Why do some of my posts not show up.

{Ed033's Note - You try to troll the Liverpool rumours site. If you want to post on there, please be civil.

14 Jan 2018 11:19:06
Bookies now have utd as favourites to sign sanchez.

No intention of getting into some of the "would you rather" posts. Sanchez is available and if he does come, there's no doubt he will improve us. I'm quite excited by it.

14 Jan 2018 11:43:38
Sanchez not in arsenal squad.

14 Jan 2018 11:38:03
This feels a lot like the EVO transfer. A little excited very hopeful.

14 Jan 2018 12:34:51
Help me out here 12, who is EVO?

14 Jan 2018 13:07:19
Evra? He was a jan signing wasnt he.

14 Jan 2018 13:12:47
MDH I can only think he meant RVP the letters on the keyboard are next to each other.

14 Jan 2018 10:08:01
I might be part of the minority here but I think I would genuinely prefer us to sign Lucas Moura over Alexis Sanchez.

Firstly, Sanchez will turn 30 at the start of next season. A lot of his game is based around pace and that will start to drop off in a few years time. He might only have 2-3 seasons left as a top player.

Secondly, he prefers to play from the left. We have Martial and Rashford who also prefer to play from that side. We also have Andreas Pereira and Lingard who are more than happy and comfortable playing from the left. However we are short of right sided players. Sanchez would be an upgrade on the options we have for the left, but that doesn't strengthen our main weakness going forward which is a lack of balance with all our attacks coming down the left hand side.

Thirdly, there are question marks over his attitude. Laughing when his team concede, refusing to shake his managers hand when being subbed off and generally sulking and causing a bad atmosphere.

Where as Lucas Moura is 25 and reaching his prime, which will last for 5-6 years at least.
He plays from the right hand side which is the area of attack we need to strengthen most.
There are no reports of him being disruptive or disrespectful even though he has been limited to a handful of sub appearances.
Also if we lack goals from wide players, it should be noted Lucas Moura scored 18 goals last season when played regularly. If we can add a wide player who actually likes to play wide and still add nearly 20 goals a season to our team then that would be perfect in my opinion.

I also think that Sanchez really wants to join City. I would feel a little joy in the beginning of we were able to pinch him from under their noses, but that would fare and eventually especially if he starts sulking like he has at Arsenal I would be left with a bitter taste in my mouth knowing deep down he doesn't really want to play for our club.

14 Jan 2018 10:28:23
Shappy, don’t be silly. Sanchez is world class, the missing piece, an incredible talent, just what we need, etc etc etc.

I made a point yesterday about his ability to be a real team player, we seem to have a good bunch of lads right now, I think character is as important as talent.

14 Jan 2018 10:41:02
I understand your thinking here Shappy but I think you're right in that you will be in the minority here. He is a top 5 player in the league and I genuinely believe that we would get more impact from 3 years of Sanchez than 5 or 6 from Moura. He is one of the group of players below Messi, Neymar and Ronaldo. We don't have an outfield player who is at that level.

Attitude wise with Sanchez it's hard to argue for someone who may have laughed when his team concedes or doesn't shake his managers hand. However, we have players who have been deemed troublemakers or unprofessional as well and they are still in the squad. They may have not have done things like that in public but undoubtedly there will have been incidents behind the scenes like at any club. To me Sanchez seems to get frustrated with his team mates in the same way Ronaldo does. He wants to win and wants to be the man. For me there is nothing wrong with that and at times over the past few seasons we could have been doing with more of that in our team.

Sanchez played a lot of his time with Barcelona and Udinese on the right as well so if he was deployed there he would be fine.

{Ed004's Note - I am worried about Sanchez's age and the fact he will start to decline but he was easily one of the top 3/5 players in league last season. If he is signed I expect him to either play on the right drifting in centrally where Mata plays or playing through the middle when we play sides lower down the table. Could be a massive boost midway through the season having a genuine world class player join who is more than capable of 20 goals a season}

14 Jan 2018 10:50:31
Actually shappy I agree with you 100%. One of rashford martial or lingard would likely have to make way for sanchez and I don't see why any of them should. We desperately need a wide right player and moura would fit the bill perfectly imo.
You are now in a minority of 2!

{Ed004's Note - But Sanchez played the majority of the start of his career on the Right? He either played on the right or centrally with Udinese and he played on the right for Barcelona as Messi was deployed in the false 9 position. Additionally he played through the middle a lot last season for Arsenal}

14 Jan 2018 11:20:14
Sanchez offers more. No one moaned when we brought RVP at the same age.

Sanchez offers flexibility. He can play anywhere up top. Jose likes players adept in more than one position.

If there is a chance, then we have to go for it. If we didnt, we woukd have the usual negativity from some fans asking why we never went for him.

Offer me Sanchez or Bale and I take Sanchez everytime.

14 Jan 2018 11:21:24
MArtial and rash are far too inconsistent they have had plenty of game time to establish themselves yet neither has, time for a someone who will perform week in and week out for me.

14 Jan 2018 11:36:01
Can any of you actually see this transfer happening? Hope it does but not getting hopes up.

14 Jan 2018 11:45:13
I can see the negatives for Sanchez but you would rather have Moura? Really?

The positives far outweigh the negatives on Sanchez for me, I think he’s the type of player to get you off your seat, I’m not getting excited just yet but if a signing was announced I would be so excited to see him in a United shirt.

14 Jan 2018 11:46:49
Agree nobody moaned at RVP. He’s a top talent Alexis and when he’s happy like apart from the 1 year he’s not been at gunners he is a team player, not many work harder than him from what I’ve seen so I don’t see how he disrupts this harmony, you can’t have too many top talents at a club plus it looks like zlatan hasn’t worked out.

14 Jan 2018 12:15:46
Shappy you are losing the plot here. Moura over Sanchez is like preferring to eat dog food over steak. Do you enjoy dog food?

14 Jan 2018 12:34:57
We have some good young players at utd but I think if Sanchez is possible then we have to try, when we play the very top teams in Europe we are simply out gunned at the moment . I'd bet our rivals don't want him to sign for us and he can be a big weapon in big games . It would be ideal if he can play as a right side attacker as he's done it in the past.

14 Jan 2018 12:51:18
I don’t think Sanchez relies to heavily on pace shappy? He’s not like bale, I think he’s an extremely clever player and that can be seen by his goals and assists when he plays centrally. He’s an intelligent player, who I think would work brilliantly just off lukaku, a truly Top top player.

14 Jan 2018 19:19:28
Shappy you are getting too caught up in sanchez played recently and where hours plays, rather than how good they are. Moura is basically a better brazilian valencia, if we signed him I doubt he would get in double digits let alone 20 on the other hand sanchez would be the impact player someone who could provide moment of inspiration to turn a draw onto a win something we don't really have in attack right now also he can and has played on right and it will really help both martial and pogba that every time we attack those aren't the only 2 we look at for creating something.