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04 May 2024 14:59:53
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04 May 2024 13:13:40
On the topic of next opponents Crystal Palace, a lot has been mentioned of a potential move for Olise. I love Eze too a think they’ll struggle to retain either. There’s another even younger player Adam Wharton I’d ashamedly not seen previously who seems to be getting some praise. With Utd’s midfield looking somewhat ragged and in need of some inspiration, is this another youngster who could be on the radar?

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{Ed002's Note - Scouts were sent last season - before he moved to Crystal Palace.}

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04 May 2024 13:51:18
Cheers Ed. Seems like a good crop emerging English talent this season.

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03 May 2024 11:17:37
Morning Ed,
Do you think EtH will be manager of the club come the start of next season?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't think he should be and there are good options available.

Erik ten Hag (C) Possible return to Ajax - else perhaps a year off. Would be way down the list for Bayern Munich but after losing Thomas Tuchel and being rejected by Alonso, Nagelsmann and failing with their Plan B one year solution with Rangnick before making their preferred appointment, they are running out of options. A wildcard at best for Bayern Munich.}

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03 May 2024 12:25:16
Ed may ask want bayern plan to do now.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect they will wait until the end of the season and see who else is available.}

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03 May 2024 13:32:28
Who would you think Ed would be best suited to replace ten hag if he were to leave

I remember years ago you
Said the plan was to replace a manager with allegri?

Would they look at that route again

I’m just hoping if they do sack ten hag they don’t go for Southgate. Think that would be worse than the moyes appointment imo.

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{Ed002's Note - Thomas Tuchel is a good fit and Jim Ratcliffe knows him well.}

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03 May 2024 15:00:57
Ed, if you don't mind me asking what do you think makes Tuchel a better fit?

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{Ed002's Note - He has won the Champions League, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, cups in France and Germany, club World Cup, knows Jim Ratcliffe very well, is a polyglot, really nice guy and is very experienced.}

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03 May 2024 16:12:04
Thank you Ed.
I’m not sure who my preference would be if EtH were to leave.

You’ve spoken before about the club lacking a structure, don’t think come the Summer, the club will be in a better place regarding this?

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{Ed002's Note - It will be better now.}

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03 May 2024 18:54:32
Thank you Ed. Such great insight.

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03 May 2024 20:23:47
could bayern be tempted to tempt tuchel to stay ed? Or are the bridges burnt?
Thanks, enjoy your Bank Holiday weekend.

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{Ed002's Note - Probably not - they have other ideas.}

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04 May 2024 07:07:25
I think he will still be there. He gave an interview with Gary Neville yesterday. He was speaking like a man that will be there for next season. He came across very well.

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04 May 2024 07:42:54
Anyone one else have to google polyglot?

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04 May 2024 07:52:11
Spenno,

Me too. ED002 is giving us an EDucation lol.

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04 May 2024 08:27:02
First “rodeo clown”, and now this 🤯.

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04 May 2024 11:14:40
Sorry ed, but some time ago your belief was that he won't be there come July 1st. Has something changed?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't understand?}

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04 May 2024 11:28:45
Your wording, when asked some time ago was you believed that he would be moved on.

When asked again above, your reply was 'i don't think he should be'. Which is different to previous.

I was wondering if something has changed, or is it still your belief that the club will move him on.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

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04 May 2024 11:55:40
Thanks ed.

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04 May 2024 12:33:41
You misread Angel. Ed is saying he doesn't think he should be here next year.

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04 May 2024 14:55:32
AJH, I read into it as if it was Eds opinion that he shouldn't be there.

I think he will be. I just don't see the point of the sit down with GN on Sky etc. If he was to go, surely the club wouldn't have sanctioned that. It makes no sense.

He spoke like a man that has had chats in private about next season. Fingers crossed he gets the chance.

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02 May 2024 19:41:51
If any of the Ed’s are around, just looking at the info given by ed002 and news coming out from various different places, it looks like we’re wanting at least 2 cbs, a full back, a midfielder (maybe 2) and a forward. The first choices seem to be Silva £60+ and Todibo £35m+ at the back, Ait Nouri £30m+ at left back, Neves £70m+ in midfield with maybe either Fofana £25m+ or Hjulmand £45m+ and then Olise £55m+ as the forward. Is there any way that this type of summer would be at all financially viable?

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{Ed002's Note - putting aside the money these are all targets as I have explained.}

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02 May 2024 20:48:30
I think it would be a fantastic summer but I really struggle to see us spending £250-300m especially without champions league football. Hopefully we can make some good money with sales. Would selling the likes of Greenwood, Williams, Hannibal and other academy players make more of a difference than selling the likes of a Lindelof?

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02 May 2024 21:01:47
Sell as many as we can hopefully.

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02 May 2024 21:58:17
Fingers crossed there’s actually a pretty high volume of sales this summer Eric, even if we have to take a hit on the fees for some of the players such as Donny and Sancho. Get them out and get their wages off the books. Just with Sancho, Casemiro, Martial and Donny leaving permanently we’ll be looking at almost a million pound a week freed up. That’s got to make a big difference.

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02 May 2024 23:44:35
Those figures seem a bit light. Nice were wanting €50-60m for Todibo in Jan. Benfica want €100m for Silva, Neves has a €120m buyout clause too. Ait-Nouri is 40-50m.

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03 May 2024 08:26:37
They are light, I purposely went to the lower end of the price range and added a plus to show how expensive it would really be. Although muppetiers has Todibo at around £35m, those prices are the release clauses of Silva and Neves so with it being the summer window they might be available a little lower. Ait Nouri I reckon around £35m would be a good price, wolves are in a bit of a financial pickle aren’t they?

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03 May 2024 09:35:58
Eric’s right: sell as many as possible and let high earning wages go also.

(Please excuse crass maths now)

Martial, Casameiro, Varane, Evans Sancho: combined weekly salaries of 1 million per week? So 50 million per season? Amortised, get one or two top players with that.

Fees for: Greenwood, Sancho, Maguire, Eriksen, Pellistri, Hannibal, Alvaro etc: maybe bring in another 100 million? Again, 2 or 3 amortised top signings there.

Plus United allegedly have 100m to spend on top of that also.

So long as top players want to join the long term journey, then we could feasibly bring in 4 or 5 top players this Summer.

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03 May 2024 10:31:53
I think with planned outgoings and changes to PSR and transfer caps, Utd could spend a lot this summer.

Realistically we need £500-600M investment in the playing side alone. This could be over 2 or 3 seasons but if it was me I’d mortgage against the future and buy now.

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03 May 2024 11:16:46
I think we need to consider also that clubs will still look at us as easy targets in the transfer window due to past performances and transfer fees. I do feel INEOS and SJR will change this over time and we will operate a lot better moving forward however the Summer window will, I imagine also involve us setting the tone of how we will operate so, I guess some targets we will walk away from and then it will be a case of do we buy others for the sake of buying? I'm quite excited for this window to see how we do but I'm not expecting as many wholesale changes as maybe some others. I do hope I am wrong though.

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03 May 2024 16:16:11
Bradders pretty sure ed002 has said Benfica will look to get the full €100m for Silva. If they do so then they have no need to sell Neves at all, so would hold out for his full release clause. Plenty interest in both will also drive their price up to close to their release clause given Chelsea are said to be interested and Boehly and co haven’t been shy of spending an arm and a leg on a player.

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01 May 2024 13:36:39
Ed002.
Good afternoon.
You have said that a keeper was on our list with Onana not quite working out.
Given the expenditure on Onana last summer do you see anyway that he might leave this summer?
Do you know if there is interest him from elsewhere?
I agree with the view that it's not worked out but I do fear being 'stuck with him for a bit due to the finances.
Have you any comfort to share?
Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Andre Onana (G) Not worked out particularly well and could be offered to Michael Emanalo as Manchester United look to upgrade - but my feeling is that he will stay with competition from a new GK as Bayindir wants out and Heaton will be out of contract.}

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01 May 2024 16:03:37
Thanks. I think the same. Hopefully we can get someone in to provide meaningful competition.
Heaton may get 1 more year I'm thinking with someone coming in to compete with Onana and not just play 2nd fiddle.
Cheers.

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01 May 2024 17:28:07
I don't see him going. He's made some bad errors but I don't think he's anywhere near the top of the list of this year's incompetencies and ill fortune. His mistakes are just more glaringly obvious.

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01 May 2024 18:43:31
Shaw there is an argument that he didn't have a solid line in front of him.
I still think the amount of basic positional or fundamental goalkeeping errors are too many.
Umo he cost us more goals through bad errors than he has saved us through saves he was not favourite to make.
But I think we are stick with him for at least next season unless a mad offer came in from Saudi.

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01 May 2024 21:36:30
It may be a small point, but at the recent games I went to Heaton and Bayandir came out to warm up and did the usual goalkeeping warm ups. However Onana spent time controlling balls hit back to him and then he was hitting passes out to coaches on the halfway line. Strange that we don’t have a consistent method through all the keepers and Onana had such a warm up session, then gives goals away by doing this.

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02 May 2024 08:40:24
Hard for any keeper to provide competition if they are not getting games to prove their worth. Any keeper coming in is just going to warm the bench for ETH mate. Cannot see anyone decent wanting to do that.

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02 May 2024 09:20:42
With all the transition I can't see goalkeeper being high up the list of priorities this season meaning Onana will stay (unless they get a strong bid for him) with the club looking at back ups.

I have not been convinced and he has definitely gone through both good and bad patches. Unfortunately his mechanics are not what you would expect from a top goalkeeper, however you do not achieve what he has without being very good.

If he stays next season we could see a completely different player with a different approach and hopefully better more ball playing defenders. The defence this year has not helped him.

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01 May 2024 00:08:40
Jean Claude Blanc coming in signals Tuchel or Zidane. Cheers.

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01 May 2024 01:18:14
Why does it do that? Because he knows them?! Blanc was involved anyway. He knew them before becoming interim CEO.

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01 May 2024 08:12:40
Experienced executive football leadership and people doing roles that require experienced executive football leadership.

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01 May 2024 10:39:52
I think it signals Ineos want an interim of their own choosing until Berrada starts.

Its just another example of people putting two and two together and getting five.

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30 Apr 2024 21:09:57
Hi Ed002, hope you're well. I notice over on the Liverpool page you mention you think MU can get something completed for Antonio Silva the CB at Benfica, did you mean for this coming summer? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Possibly.}

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30 Apr 2024 23:01:32
Very interesting Ed.

If I could choose someone from benfica it would be neves. A double deal would be nice lol.

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{Ed002's Note - He is not a CB.}

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01 May 2024 10:53:14
Thanks Ed, one to watch out for.

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01 May 2024 12:03:24
United agreeing terms with Silvia’s agent picking up traction on Twitter.

As it’s X, who knows what truth is but reckon someone’s aggregating Ed002’s info and passing it off as their own!

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01 May 2024 16:28:03
Seems to happen quite a bit Wallace!

Seen more and more stuff getting posted that I’m pretty sure I’ve read well in advance on here.

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29 Apr 2024 14:10:42
Marcel van der Kraan (Dutch journo) says eth is top of the list for the Ajax manager job. He knows that and they will wait to see if he's available. Apparently their new ceo is part of the group that manages eth so there's a real desire for this to happen. Might be the best scenario for all involved and also make it easier on all parties to agree a settlement.

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29 Apr 2024 14:25:27
Apologies apparently the guy who started SEG who manages eth is the new technical director at Ajax not ceo. He wants eth and after the shockers that Ajax have had since he left it’s no surprise.

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29 Apr 2024 18:24:34
Hope he gets the moves and both parties get back to heading in the right direction.

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30 Apr 2024 09:24:26
You
Don't want him to stay wazza?

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30 Apr 2024 09:58:52
It’s not a case of what I want Ken.

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30 Apr 2024 10:11:51
Thank God for that.

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26 Apr 2024 19:10:21
Ed002 - If you've got time please, even if Utd wanted to sell Rashford or he wanted to leave is there any genuine interest in taking him? Given his current form and massive wages I wouldn't suspect there is a big queue? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I am getting sick of answering the same quesions over and over. It is a complete waste of my time.

Marcus Rashford (LW/F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs, including Juventus and Arsenal about him on behalf of Manchester United, but I am not aware of any serious interest. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.}

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26 Apr 2024 20:38:07
My apologies thanks for your reply.

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26 Apr 2024 21:05:11
More or less our biggest star/ face off our marketing. Can't see us letting him go for a fee that would be anywhere near realistic. Think he will stay and stink up the place ala Martial for the foreseeable.

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27 Apr 2024 08:16:28
His wages too high to be sold.

Maybe short term loan to help him get form back away from spotlight.

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27 Apr 2024 13:17:13
Quite a few contracts on reduced terms have been signed at the likes of Barcelona recently. Maybe de Jong this summer. Most have done so. True measure of love for a club.

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27 Apr 2024 13:18:23
There were rumours he didn’t get on with Greenwood at all and cannot work with him.

Now that’s a tough choice. A lazy and out of form Rashford or Greenwood back?!

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27 Apr 2024 22:07:56
That's not a choice Eric.

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28 Apr 2024 00:20:58
Why not choose between Messi in his prime or Rashford? 😂.

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28 Apr 2024 11:08:36
Generally I tend to find it hard to judge players on things beyond their performance on the pitch. Frankly I just don't know enough about them personally or what is going on in their lives to feel like I know enough to draw a sensible conclusion.

With Rashford he seems like he has a decent moral core based on his efforts to make sure kids didn't go hungry. He used his position of fame to help others and that should be commended, on the most part that has been.

On the pitch he has at times carried us, and has shown genuine world class form at times. Consistency has been a problem, but a fully fit and on form Rashford starts for pretty much every side in the league.

The question is why is he so inconsistent. In the past the excuses of youth and being moved around position have been valid potential reasons.

While he has carried the goalscoring burden for us in the past he isn't the kind of player who can drag his teammates performance up. To be fair very few forwards tend to have that quality. They are goal scorers and by nature that tends to make players selfish and more focused on themselves in their efforts to score. Midfielders and defenders tend to be more team focused and as such there are far more examples of players from those positions who can elevate the performance of those around them.

As such for a player like Rashford his form will be more dependent on that of the team, he needs his teammates to provide him with good quality chances for him to be able to play at his best. So maybe his form and inconsistency can be partially explained by the team's own inconsistent performances.

There have also been rumours and suggestions that his form might be connected to his private life. Again something that shouldn't be too surprising. Most of us will see a downturn in our performance at work when we are dealing with turmoil or difficulties in our private lives. Very few people can block out those troubles while at work, and I think the ones that can tend to be able to do so because their work is an escape. I wonder how that might change if you're work is examined under the microscope of the print and online media. Can work be an escape when you are put under that much pressure.

This brings me to the crux of this whole situation for me. What support should the club offer a player like Rashford and are they giving him that support.

If a player, particularly a current or former academy player has issues in their private life to what extent do the club have a responsibility to support them with that?

We as a club take kids who are not emotionally or mentally mature and start training them to become top players. Part of that process puts them in situations that most teenagers never experience. They are exposed to pressures that many fully mature adults would struggle with, and they are expected to make good decisions and are disproportionately judged when they make mistakes common for most teenagers.

Most of them don't come from homes or backgrounds that have experience or the knowledge of how to support and advise them. They are picked out by agents and hanger-on's looking to make money on the back of these young players talent. People who will use manipulation on these kids to further their own ends.

The club looks to benefit from producing these young players, either making money on the back of selling them on, or by producing a top level player for a fraction of what it would cost to buy a similar player. Academy players on the whole tend to earn less at their clubs than players signed by the club. Their attachment to the club being taken advantage of by the club to have higher quality players on lower wages than they would potentially earn elsewhere.

Which for me personally means that the club does have more responsibility to support it's players, particularly it's academy and former academy players, far more than that of a traditional employer.

The club, while providing these young players with a fantastic opportunity, have exposed these young people to experiences and challenges they are not for the most part equipped to deal with.

Rather than throw a player like Rashford to the dogs, the club should be doing everything they can to support him and help him deal with whatever issues he has and work with him to get him back to his best form.

Maybe they are, I hope they are. Maybe playing most games is part of that support, maybe he needs the distraction of playing to give him a rest bite from whatever is happening off the pitch. Maybe the club is offering the support and the player isn't accepting it. Or maybe they aren't offering any support at all.

The point for me is that I don't know which of the above is happening. Which makes it very hard for me to judge Rashford currently beyond that his form (for whatever reason) isn't good enough and that needs to be addressed. His on pitch body language and his perceived effort is difficult to judge as I don't know why it's changed. As previously he has always been a hard working and committed player.

His body language, the rumours, the speculation, his tweets or response to questions in the press, and everything else is something I find it difficult to judge him on as I'm only seeing less than 10% of what is happening.

Is Rashford's form a problem? Absolutely. How best to fix that? Well without seeing the whole picture it's impossible to say.

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28 Apr 2024 11:08:59
Why not ship out both and completely remove Ole's first choice attacking line from the club in one fell swoop. None of them have lived up to what we had hoped they would be for different reasons.

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28 Apr 2024 22:23:47
Why not bring back Greenwood, since the charges were dropped, he has a child with that girl and also married her?

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29 Apr 2024 04:27:22
Quite simple Trololo. The club doesn't need the circus that will come from bringing him back. They are trying to turn the page and move forwards with positivity, and bringing Greenwood back would not help to deliver that.

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29 Apr 2024 06:25:29
Sell Greenwood to whichever Spanish side want him and use the money to fund a bid for Olise, then move Garnacho back to is favoured position on the left, move Mount up to attacking midfield, Bruno as the box2box midfielder and let Mainoo keep learning the DM role.
With Licha back next season with Shaw we only need a new CB, maybe Braithwaite or the kid from Nice and we are good to go.
Easy being a manger isn't it.

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29 Apr 2024 12:59:13
I understand that Dodgy, the problem is with the fans, who are, imo, hilarious, that is why I posted that.

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29 Apr 2024 13:23:55
She is so lucky eh Trololo?

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29 Apr 2024 14:00:56
Taking Greenwood back is not an option. Rushford is in poor form and clearly struggling with his mentality. Greenwood is a scumbag who doesn't deserve the talent, platform or career ahead of him.

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29 Apr 2024 16:33:14
What is your point patrick?

James, that is only your opinion. If he is or isn't a scumbag should be irrelevant. He wasn't convicted and that should be enough.

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29 Apr 2024 19:23:58
Are you really asking Trololo?

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30 Apr 2024 16:02:20
For some reason, my comment didn't go through.

Anyway, yes, I am really asking.

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30 Apr 2024 17:45:58
Trololo, Domestic violence. Not a good image for the club to be associated with. Most victims stay / withdraw from cases. Does that make him innocent? What about women, both players and fans of Man Utd? Move on from Greenwood.

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04 May 2024 14:22:36
I think there is another angle that is worth looking at.

First of all, if he realLy is innocent as Richard Arnold’s taskforce seems to believe, he should be reinstated.

If not, then him playing for Manchester United is in the best interest of the victim. She would be isolated anywhere else in the world, in Manchester she would have her family around for those tough moments that will surely be coming again sometime in the future.

Just food for thought.

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26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.

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27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.

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28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.

I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.

SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.

I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.

The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.

The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.

Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.

Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.

Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.

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30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.

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25 Apr 2024 19:17:18
Ed it has been reported that Dan Ashworth is taking Newcastle to arbitration to try and resolve the issue of moving onto his new job.

To me this is a very bad look and may not reflect well on them when they replace Ashworth or maybe even when they try to buy players would clubs/ players see it this way?

Or am I looking at it wrongly, I'm not trying to absolve united they may not have acted right in this either.

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{Ed002's Note - It is a case of someone signing a contract they wish to break and the compensation that is goining to be required to be negotiated. In terms of transfers, it won't be a huge issue, but it needs resolving.}

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28 Apr 2024 11:40:17
I don't blame Newcastle at all, they've worked hard to create a set up that can help build them into a top side. Then an already established top side (that is currently in a slump) look to come and take a key part from them.

Ultimately they know they can't stop someone looking to move on and it makes no sense trying to keep someone who wants to be somewhere else.

Yet why roll over and get their tummy tickled. They will fight and they are well within their rights to demand that anything written in a legally binding contract is fulfilled.

If we, and/ or Ashworth want some of those legally binding conditions lifted or not enforced then we need to negotiate that.

While Newcastle will know that ultimately they can't stop Ashworth leaving, they will look to protect their beat interests. They almost certainly don't want him working for a rival club at a time where he could impact their plans, particularly in terms of summer transfer plans/ targets. While the longer until he can start working for a rival the longer before he can start making their rival stronger.

The club would have understood and knew this before they made him their No.1 target. They will be thinking long term and appreciate it's better to have a turbulent or at least tricky first summer as they don't have all their key people in place, but actually have the right people coming in. Than it is to bring in the wrong people just because they are available right away.

That sort of short term thinking has been everything that has been wrong with our club over the past decade.

From not being able to get our first choice target (FdJ) to then move to signing an older player on a massive contract (Casemiro) to fill the gap. When a younger player with potential to become a top player would have been a better alternative. They would have been cheaper and have more longevity. But the focus was on the here and now, so we got the expensive, decking, older, short term option.

Ashworth will join, as will Berrada, while Wilcox is already in. Others will no doubt join over the next 18 months in various roles across the club.

This was never going to be a quick fix, a 500m summer to bring in all the key players and to challenge for the title next season. This is a 3-5 year rebuilding project. Something we won't really be in a position to judge it's success or failure probably much before 2030.

We just need to let them get on with it.

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