13 Nov 2026 18:34:55
Come next season which of these 11 players, who represent around 1/2 the payroll, will still be with us?
Rashford, Fernandez (if yes, new contract or 1yr trigger), Mount, Mazraoui, Shaw, Dalot, Ugarte, Martinez, de Ligt, Zirkzee. Maguire.
It's hard to see us raising much if any money from selling any of them, assuming they're not out of contract.
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13 Nov 2026 23:38:01
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13 Nov 2026 13:41:36
How long until we are linked with Robinson, Adams and balogun 🤣
13 Nov 2026 16:04:43
We already have been.
You do realise that sometimes those horrid journalists make up stuff to keep themselves in a job for another day, shock, horror, surprise!
Your job is not believing what they constantly spout, even if it supposedly validates what you want to be true.
13 Nov 2026 22:26:35
All of whom would improve our squad!
13 Nov 2026 08:13:04
It is reported on Sky Sports News that Bruno Fernandes has refused a second contract offer from United. Bruno Fernandes is out of contract at the end of the season and can speak to foreign clubs in January on a free transfer.
13 Nov 2026 08:26:50
Good. See ya later alligator.
13 Nov 2026 09:29:42
He goes for free as opposed to cashing him in last year? Great business. Mind you, where would we be without the positive parts of his input last season?
13 Nov 2026 10:12:32
Have to agree with Ken on this one, if his demands are too excessive then we can't afford to be paying that for someone of his age, especially not with our record of selling players. If he takes a further dip in form or this current one continues then we are screwed.
13 Nov 2026 10:17:01
Why would Fernandes sign a contract to be sold in the summer? Leaving on a free is better for him to negotiate a contract with whatever club comes in for him. If he signs a contract and the club want £50M for him, they could price him out of a move.
This is a situation the club shouldn't be in and shows more incompetence from them, IMO.
13 Nov 2026 11:06:41
We have a year option which we can trigger if we want to
I suppose it depends on his conversations with poch.
Id be very reluctant to offer a part rose and long extention based on his performances this season but he has credit in the bank.
If he very back to form trigger the extension and let him leave for free at nearly 34 like salah.
13 Nov 2026 11:12:25
Oh and I took so much stick for saying we should sell Bruno last summer.
13 Nov 2026 11:18:26
Ken, hasn't it been previously discussed that a club can't trigger an 1 year extension just to sell for profit? I could be wrong on that but sure I've seen something like that discussed before?
13 Nov 2026 11:57:58
You can trigger an extention and still sell happens all the time. You can not profiteer and only do so for the purpose of profiting.
But i'm not suggesting that ports.
Im suggesting that if he won't sign tiger the extention and least him leave next year for free.
Id be very reluctant to increase or extend his terms until he proves he can get back to his best.
Triggering the clause prevents him from talking to other clubs about a free for a further 12 months.
The club owe him nothing and must protect their own interests.
13 Nov 2026 12:02:41
Oh poor redman did some of the boys give you some stick because they have a different opinion. They are very naughty.
Im not sure what's you point is on that.
13 Nov 2026 12:05:26
This feels like a similar story arc to Salah and Liverpool just without the Premier League titles and champions league titles.
Ageing player who has been great servant holding out for one last big contract before his inevitable decline.
Club would be wise to extend his option and sell for reasonable fee and rebuild under new manager.
13 Nov 2026 12:31:54
I full reset dsg would be my preference but can we finance that?
13 Nov 2026 12:52:38
Hi TW
Water off a ducks back. It is just pointing out that we wouldn't be in the sorry mess with Bruno, or for that matter with Martinez and Rashford if they had competent decisive decision makers and that those saying Bruno was unsellable in summer won't be saying it now.
13 Nov 2026 14:02:56
Bruno has been by far our best signing post SAF, and he should be remembered fondly.
That said nothing lasts forever, and the problem I see with Bruno is that to get the best out of him you have to build your team around him. Which is not a sensible or even an effective way to build a top side capable of challenging for the biggest honours. He has also been our captain/leader through a period of time where our squad have developed a nasty habit of throwing the towel in when it gets tough. I think it will be hard to change that mentality while he remains and is a leader within the dressing room.
I think next summer is the ideal time to part ways. In hindsight if we managed to keep Amorim last season then this summer could have been an ideal time to sell him for maximum profit. But with Carrick as manager the team was built around him so the club was never going to accept selling him.
Thinking about Pochettino's tactics I think there is a more natural position for Bruno than in Amorim's, but I don't think he's ideal, and certainly isn't a long term option for Pochettino to build around.
I can see him playing Santos as the deepest midfielder who drops between the CB's to build from the back, Baleba is an ideal box to box player for him. While Tielemans and Mainoo probably work best as that No.10 who drops deep to help link play. Compared to Bruno who can do that job, but isn't as defensively capable, and who is definitely better higher up the pitch. Mainoo could also maybe play that deeper role instead of Santos, but he is probably best in the opposition half rather than our own half.
Either way I think for us to truly leave behind this era of disappointment and to actually build towards something better we probably need to move on from Bruno Fernandes.
13 Nov 2026 14:22:01
Yes we can finance but would have to be selective and use the academy more.
For example would we have been better off just signing an Anderson or Tonali and promoting two academy midfielders instead of signing Santos, Tielemans and Baleba.
13 Nov 2026 14:25:43
Also reported (in the same article) that United can extend by a year and thus prevent him speaking to other clubs in January.
I think it all depends on whether Poch wants him or not. I think any manager would want a player with those stats and assist figures and he remains for me United's best signing post-Fergie by far although I agree it hasn't been the best season for him so far.
I always worry where the assists and creativity come from. The closest with have is Cunha who can play the 10 with Rash coming back in. Should have been Mount but he has been unable to string three games together.
Either way, it feels like Bruno will be gone if not at the end of the season than the one after, so it may be time to cash in and explore what a Bruno-less United looks like.
13 Nov 2026 18:59:17
DSG
That was impossible, Anderson didn't want us and Tonali alone costed 100m. Baleba, Santos and Tielemans costed 150m all together.
12 Nov 2026 14:51:44
He will get a better structure and fitness level in place. We will start moving up the table and lm sure some guarantees have ben made on players in Jan
13 Nov 2026 15:51:33
United could want to trigger the year extension, but contract is worded the player got to agree to it too you can't have your cake and eat it no player signs that only the club have the option and they don't.
Anyway who on earth in his position would have signed a new contract at this time before new manager even arrived and not even knowing the new manager plans.
I would say absolutely no player in that position would sign anything, be foolish to until they are aware of manager and the manager plans, plus I would bet pound to a penny Poch will try get him to stay only genuine class player Poch inheriting.
11 Nov 2026 21:49:44
So we pay £7m to release Poch from his USA contract but still allow him to take charge of the next 2 USA games and burn the time he could be spending getting his feet under the table. The lack of nous and backbone in our leadership is staggering
11 Nov 2026 22:36:05
Well, if he's the man they've identified as the one they want, then realistically they were always going to have to pay the £7m to get him out of his contract. And if Poch has made it clear that he wants to see out these two games before leaving, then surely that's a compromise you have to accept to secure your preferred candidate? I'd rather the club show a bit of patience and get the appointment they actually want than rush into something for the sake of getting someone in.
The bigger question is whether they've got the right man and a clear plan in place beyond the appointment itself.
11 Nov 2026 23:05:20
Let's also hope whatever promises that they've made poch that they deliver on them.
12 Nov 2026 13:18:56
Does it really matter, our only decent players are on international duty.
What is Poch realistically do with Mason Mount, could probably get him to sort out his filing system at best because he isn't going to be doing anything on the pitch.
12 Nov 2026 13:33:18
If he has a contract what are they supposed to do. Also if he feels a responsibility to the players he has had under his wing for the last few years I am glad he wants to at least help them through the next few important games.
If he is similarly connected to the United squad and a takes his duties as seriously then it bodes well.
12 Nov 2026 14:03:32
Personally, it enhances my opinion of Pochettino. He is unwilling to just abandon his players just as they are about to play a couple of important games to take his dream job. It shows that he has strong moral fibre.
While it would be better if he was able to be with the club over the next two weeks to help smooth his transition. There is a debate over how much it would really impact it.
He knows England, and has managed three different clubs in the EPL. He is also an international manager which is less demanding on his time, which probably means he has been able to keep a closer eye on club football in general. While we have several players not at the club due to international duty and typically clubs us use the international breaks to work on fitness and recovery for those players who aren't away with their national teams.
I'd also imagine he will be in regular contact with the club and the coaches and saying what it is he wants them to work on, as well as getting feedback from them.
11 Nov 2026 16:04:33
Only INEOS would wait till an international break to poach an international manager
11 Nov 2026 17:01:50
Plenty sticks to beat them with. I don't think this is one of them.
11 Nov 2026 18:50:36
🤣🤣CS good humour.
12 Nov 2026 07:32:14
That's a cracker CS.
11 Nov 2026 10:24:43
What is required now is a manager who demands control of buying and selling players. I understand that we can't alway get or sell players we want and prices and wages are key, but a new man must demand much more power with these decisions. It is obvious that the club expected to sell a number of players last summer to raise some capital. Onana, Rashford, Urgarte, Zirkzee etc. so l understand that the budget was small. Add then the cost of sacking RA and his staff, hiring Carrick and his staff etc. I don't expect much business in January as the money just isn't there. Not sure how all this will turn out, but we need to find a few gems in the window, hope some players get back fit soon or promote some young lads.
11 Nov 2026 11:54:10
Not sure I agree, what we need are people who know what tbey are doing making the decisions. Brighton will have a team making decisions based on solid data, recruiting the right players for the right positions. We on the other hand seem to have no clear strategy or approach, buying players who don't fit, for positions we didn't need.
The days of the Manager having the full sign off ofnplayers has long gone. The Manager should identify the style of play, and the positions that need strengthening, but they won't have knowledge of enough players to always pick correctly.
11 Nov 2026 13:13:23
Totally wrong take redcon. Part of the mess we're in is because ETH decided the players but had incompetent negotiators.
11 Nov 2026 14:45:09
A manager/head coach should be involved in the recruitment process. They will know which areas that want strengthening and prioritise accordingly. I imagine this happens or should happen.
Next, the DOF, SP identify targets and lists 1st choice, 2nd choice etc an presents them to the manager/ head coach. Then purses them if the manager agrees so.
The club IS still a patchwork quilt. Unfortunately, given how the club is run I don't expect much to change in the foreseeable. Being a United fan is like being a Turkey at Christmas and catching Bernard Matthews grinning at you. I think I'm showing my age here.
11 Nov 2026 15:16:14
I disagree, the reason we have suffered so much is the repeated chopping and changing of the types of players we are signing to suit the current manager, leaving us with a squad of players who never really suited any specific style of play.
What we need now is a united vision top down, with everyone on the same page.
A clear plan for the style of play, the kind of players needed for that and a manager who suits that vision. Then we need to recruit and rebuild the squad to fit that vision. And if the manager doesn't work out then the vision doesn't change, just the manager. With us going out and finding another manager who also shares that vision.
The problem in the past is we've gone for a possession based manager, and started to rebuild the squad to suit that style. Then when it hasn't worked with that manager we've sacked them and changed the vision to a counter attacking style and brought in a manager who suits that. We've effectively thrown the baby out with the bath water.
Rather than understand that the issue is probably either limitations with the manager or the squad (probably both), but not with the tactics/style.
Every style of play has it's strengths and weaknesses. Possession football can be slow, and requires highly technical and intelligent players. But can be prone to issues with physicality (few players have both physical and technical skills to a equally high level), and they can be prone to losing goals to quick transitions. Whereas, a high pressing, counter attacking style requires physically quick and strong players, with high levels of stamina and mobility. But it can struggle against low blocks, and can also be weak to quick transitions with players being caught high up the pitch and out of shape.
We've seen a tactical issue (most likely highlighted due to not having players with the required skill sets) and then decided that style of play doesn't work, rather than trying to work out what we need to do to make it work.
It's the flipping between different styles that has lead to us recruiting players for those varying different styles and never having a squad capable of playing any style consistently to a high level.
If Pochettino is the man then hopefully it means we are committing to a style that suits him and that is why he has been chosen over other possible candidates.
I like his style of play and think that it closely aligns with my view of what a Manchester United team should play like. Hard-working, energetic, pressing, quick counter attacks and using width to stretch play.
12 Nov 2026 08:58:19
gone beyond small budget argument now- let's be honest what's the difference between 1.2 billion and 1.4 billion in debt really? Sponsors will pull the plug if we don't finish top 6 top 8 or get relegated -addidas have a clause apparently to walk away with their 900 mill depending on our on field performance - I hope Poch has the nous to say I cannot get you out of this mess with this defense - we all know the players who should be gone -get it done and get me 2 centre halfs and 2 full backs otherwise i'm not interested.
11 Nov 2026 10:06:07
Reports that United have officially opened talks with Pochettino. Again more incompetence from the club that this being reported before an official announcement has been made about Carricks future.
Also let's just remind ourselves that the removal of Carrick will put the club at nearly £100m in compensation and severance costs for managers and backroom staff post SAF.
11 Nov 2026 12:33:46
Lets be fair, this happens with pretty much every other major club in world football.
We knew about Maresca to City long before it was announced, Alonso to Chelsea, Iraola to Liverpool, Mourinho to Real Madrid.
We live in a world of fast paced media due to social media taking over from print media as the main source of information people will go to.
That means there is a rat race to be the first to break the news, and with a lot of information being passed around through agents (who are looking to manipulate the media to maximise their profit) along with footballers typically being young men who lack life experience, while also often not being the brightest. It isn't difficult to get snippets of information. For example over a decade ago I knew of a transfer in lower league football before the player had even sat down with the club he was moving to, I knew where he was going and that they had already offered him triple his current wages. The story didn't brake until two days later when he was spotted going into the training ground of his new club for his medical and both clubs then announced the deal. It was a record deal for the league at the time, and I knew about it two whole days before it was in the press. I'm not going to be the only person whose ever been privvy to some information before it becomes public knowledge, and in this modern world of instant media people are far less withholding of that information than I was at the time.
There are people everywhere with cameras in their pockets and the ability to quickly inform the world of what they've seen, often with a photo for proof.
People like Fabrizio Romano have become millionaires, becoming famous and building careers out of leaking information. He now gets to travel the world in the lap of luxury meeting his football heros. All because he has made a career out of breaking news before clubs can arrange a press release.
11 Nov 2026 14:00:45
Kurtis perhaps carrick is in the loop in fact I'm sure he is.
Dreaming up things to moan about without knowing anything about the detail.
11 Nov 2026 14:14:43
That's what you would hope is happening, Ken, but you have to admit that, from the outside looking in, the whole situation reflects poorly on the club, particularly when there are reports that Carrick is still carrying on with his responsibilities as normal. Ultimately, as someone else has said, they're all grown men and understand the nature of the business they're in.
However, that doesn't excuse the way the club appears to have handled the situation. IMO, the communication and overall management of Carrick's position over the last couple of weeks has been really poor. You can't expect professionalism, clarity and accountability from the people working within the club if those at the top aren't prepared to demonstrate those same qualities themselves.
11 Nov 2026 18:32:26
Ports i hear ya. But how do you know that carrick is not in the loop amd offered to stay till the get the right person.
Id argue if this is the case the have been very professional and covered there bases well.
They didn't envisage the poor points return this season and were caught on the hop.
Sticking with Carrick and not jumping on conte or Howe seems sensible.
Im 99%sure Carrick is well in the loop.
11 Nov 2026 18:38:33
Ken
I agree, in fact I suspect Carrick has known for a couple of weeks. The team suddenly changed and really had a go, almost like they suspected things were changing.
This given three games to see what he could do sounds nonsense, more like timing is better for us at the international break, stay for the three games and we will make it worthwhile. It happens in business when key staff need to stay to the end.
11 Nov 2026 18:53:52
Yeah, I hope that is the case, Ken, and if it is, I think it says a lot about Carrick as a person and the way he is choosing to handle the situation. My only, personal criticism is that I think the club could have communicated things far better, particularly given the level of media scrutiny they are already under. A bit more clarity would have avoided a lot of unnecessary speculation and negativity.
Ultimately, though, it's their decision how they choose to manage things, and if they feel this is the right approach, that's up to them. The only people who are likely to be disappointed by the way it's been handled are the fans, and I'm sure it'll all be forgotten pretty quickly if results and performances improve! 😂.
11 Nov 2026 19:38:11
I can't be sure redman but i strongly suspect that to be the case.
They gave him the opportunity and he didn't do well this season. He realises that I'm sure. I would suspect he was told he was going to be replaced and carrick is being professional to the end. That is to be respected imo.
They needed to be careful not to jump in on the wrong man and make a knee jerk decision.
Time will tell of they got it right with poch.
I wanted poch when they opted for eth.
I think he is potentially the right man in the right place at the right time.
A likeable guy. Works the press well. Good experience and a lot of ex players speak well of him.
@ports i understand your point. But they can't come out and say Carrick will be leaving when we get the one we want.
The club can't try and control the narritive in today's savage world of hyperbole and nonsense.
You even see it here everyday. People make up scenarios in their head and are convinced they are right so no matter what the club do people will have their opinions and as you see some are quite extreme.
Saying nothing until the is a deal done is the best way to handle things. Protects Carrick to an extent and allowed them time to not make a knee jerk decision.
11 Nov 2026 09:33:08
Looking like it’s pochettino then. Thoughts?
11 Nov 2026 09:46:18
Should have ideally gotten the job when EtH was hired. His Spurs side played some good stuff back then and even the US side played some beautiful football at the world cup. let's see what he can conjure up from what we have here at United.
Best of luck to him if he does get in.
Carrick the coach was never good enough for this role. Good for him that he is being relieved here before things got worse and the fans turn on him. Playing legend for us but never good enough for this mighty role.
11 Nov 2026 10:01:07
I don't know what to think any more Tim. We've considered him on 3 previous occasions and not appointed him which causes some concern. I loved him as Spurs, his record since has been ok but not hugely impressive, and I never understood why he took on a national team.
If we get the Southampton and Spurs version then I'm happy.
11 Nov 2026 10:18:51
I think we are too scarred by the owners incompetence to completely trust any decision they make. I've wanted pochettino for a long time back to when it was him or Eth. Just hope he gets backed, what INEOS promise and what they deliver has been proven to be 2 very different things.
11 Nov 2026 10:44:06
The way this is being done is also shabby, leak after leak, we've approached Poch, he's ready to accept, and all the while Carrick remains in place. I used to love United but as a club we are an embarrassment.
11 Nov 2026 11:16:40
My guess is Carrick is aware of what's happening and probably has been since Bournemouth game.
11 Nov 2026 12:02:08
Agree Banjoe. It seems that the decision was made post Bournemouth and Carrick had been made aware of the decision. He would have been interim by the time replacement was lined up. That gave time to the decision makers as well. No wonder player performances have also marginally picked up.
11 Nov 2026 12:08:09
Rinse and repeat, poch is not the answer, will be sacked in the next 12 months, fell out with the board at chelsea over making decisions about players and transfers. Might save us from relegation could be the new big sam.
11 Nov 2026 12:30:37
Who would you have gone for Leahy?
11 Nov 2026 13:03:37
The timing isn't right but i'd go for emery, give poch a 12 month contract if that's where we are not 5 years and then another big payout.
11 Nov 2026 13:05:42
Poch is a great appointment. The way the club have done it is awful and I'm amazed he wants to join that leadership group. He's perfect for United. Should have happened last summer. Completely idiotic decision making but at least we can move on with a highly competent coach.
11 Nov 2026 13:19:07
I'd have preferred Howe in. Better tactician.
I wouldn't grumble over Poch as a stopgap. He's a better coach than Carrick for what we need, now.
11 Nov 2026 13:30:28
Thats probably one level up from where we are right now, Leahy. Emery would be a smart pick but i don't think he would have been interested with how things are being run here at United.
11 Nov 2026 13:30:59
Jeez Nounare you serious? I like Howe but why on earth would you rank him above Poch?!
11 Nov 2026 14:35:01
Leahy, why do you think Emery would join us?
Some people say ohh but Conte is free.
Why would he join as well?
People need to realize we aren't an attractive destination at the moment.
11 Nov 2026 18:03:50
Don, better tactician. That's about it. They're both good man-managers, improve players and play decent football. Poch, from what I've read over the years about them both, is probably a more 'feelz' manager. Howe goes much more into the minute.
I'd also argue his body of work is as good as Poch's. Taking a small team like Bournemouth to the EPL, and winning the Geordies their first silverware in 60 odd years whilst working under the constraints there, is as impressive to me as Poch's (winningless) period with Spurs, and winning a couple of minor trophies in Paris. Not to mention it not working out at Chelsea. Though I wouldn't blame him for failing at that club.
Howe's quite, studied demeanour probably works against him as well. Not sexy enough.
I like both, but I do rate Howe at least his equal.
11 Nov 2026 19:57:54
He won the league with psg in his only full season in charge. Didn't win it after joining them half way through season in 3rd place after tuchel was fired the season before they finished 2nd and got to cl semi that season.
Had psg in cl semi spurs in final.
Howe is a good coach and seems like a nice guy. Probably the best English coach of his generation. He under achieved with his newcastle team to an extent imo.
But did win a minor trophy their 1st for 60 years and got them into cl a couple of times.
I don't think Howe will ever be city chelsea Liverpool or Arsenal coach or coach for a top club in Europe. Poch has better experience better results better trophy haul (not great for either)and a couple of near misses in pl and cl.
Wilcox agreed with you nou that's got to be a concern for you🤣.
10 Nov 2026 14:12:52
Away from the manager saga for a minute did anyone see or hear stefan borson (financial expert) on talksport say that he's been told the club are up for sale. It's not official but that's what he's heard and the asking price is 5bn+
We can but dream because we need rid of all of them, glazers, INEOS the whole lot.
10 Nov 2026 14:46:28
Sad thing is we may get someone in who'll clear the debt and spend money on players etc. but they're pretty much guaranteed to be as bad as the Glasers in other ways.
10 Nov 2026 14:53:48
Can you get any worse than the glazers? And Ineos.
Any new owner that comes in will have wiped the debt that alone is more than what these leaches and rats have ever done.
10 Nov 2026 15:11:46
New owners probably won't have any obligation to clear the debt and might be happy for it to continue to roll on as long as the revenue is there to cover it.
10 Nov 2026 15:46:14
Saw this. Be interesting to see where it actually leads. I might be wrong, but didn't we have something similar reported a while back, with the Glazers supposedly considering a sale? Almost feels like they put these stories out there to test the water, gauge interest and see what sort of offers might be on the table, rather than any genuine intention to sell.
The £5bn+ valuation is interesting too. How does that actually break down in terms of ownership? Are we talking £5bn+ for 100% of Manchester United, or is that the figure being quoted just for the Glazers' remaining stake? Quite a difference between the two!
10 Nov 2026 15:59:57
The club probably won't be debt free in our lifetime. We need to get comfortable with that fact. No one will pay the Glazers their 5bn, and then clear the clubs debt afterwards.
Put it this way, we are currently £1.15bn in debt. A new stadium will cost us a further £2bn, which in truth we need to build. That then puts us a a total debt of around £3bn.
Now let's say we wanted to pay that off over a 30 year period. Realistically the best interest rate we will be able to get will be around 5% (it'll likely be more than that).
%5 interest on £3bn over 30 years equals £4.5bn of interest on top of the initial £3bn, meaning we would have to pay back a total of 7.5bn over 30 years, which equates to a debt repayment fee of £250m a year.
If we are paying £250m a year to clear the debt in 30 years time that doesn't leave a lot of money left to spend on transfer fees etc. Which we will need to do to remain competitive and maximise our revenue so that we can repay the debt.
Which probably means to be able to pay off the debt and still have enough money to spend to keep us competitive that we will have to spread the debt repayment over a longer than 30 year period, probably more like 40-50 years or more.
There will be Manchester United fans who'll be born, live a full and long life and die without ever knowing the club to be debt free.
10 Nov 2026 16:56:26
I'm pretty sure that anybody that buys the club has to clear the debt as there are some terms that say something like that.
10 Nov 2026 17:24:49
No we don't need a new stadium.
10 Nov 2026 18:30:46
Incorrect fallguy nobody that buys the business has to clear the debt. Unless its a heavily sponsered purchase from a state backed entity the debt will likely increase short term but will need to be paid down unlike our current arrangement.
So medium term the debt would decrease but slowly and at a higher cost than or existing payments in all liklihood
Shappy this is not a mortgage🤣
Finance at that level works very differently than you have laid out.
10 Nov 2026 19:31:52
Surely the glazers have to clear their debt. They essentially mortgaged us. And have kept remortgaging it. If I sell my house for 500k and 300k left on the mortgage I have to clear it. Not make the new owner pay to the 300 k as well as my 500 k.
10 Nov 2026 19:33:40
The glazers want the stadium to be built because it will add significant value to their asset and maximise their return if sold.
I doubt they would sell now.
10 Nov 2026 20:29:09
The Glazers don't have to do anything. That's how ridiculous the leveraged takeover is. By the time they eventually sell, they will have made billions in profit without risking any of their own money. They are likely to leave the club in billions of debt too. And the great Ferguson called them great owners. Was that a horse?
10 Nov 2026 20:33:24
They are selling a business not their personal home Danny.
A loan in a business can be carried forward a mortgage cannot unless in extraordinary circumstances.
10 Nov 2026 23:02:57
If the Glazers sell, SJR has first refusal. He could out together a consortium to buy Utd. A leveraged buyout is now not possible under the rules. They wouldn't be under any obligation to clear the debt.
They could however, decide to wait until June 2029, where United can reportedly pay back the debt at no additional cost/very little cost.
The debt itself could will depend upon those financing the deal and whether they want to clear right away, to free up the clubs spending power. The interest gnaws away at the SCR. Clearing the debt, would enable United to spend more and hopefully become more competitive and win the league again, without falling further behind.
However, much would depend on who is still recruiting for the club etc, as nothing is a guarantee in football.
The Glazers are under no pressure to sell, their Teflon heads show that nothing sticks to them.
11 Nov 2026 09:40:29
There is likley no obligation to clear the debt, however it will be taken into account in the final valuation of the club
The headline £5bn valuation might be before or after this has been taken into account, I suspect probably before.
Obviously £1bn of debt is a big amount +/- on the actual amount paid and any sensible buyer would be accounting for this. I am assuming the likelihood of a sovereign purchase is not big
The Football Board Room podcast did an interesting one on any potential sale and realistically how few people could actually buy it. It suggested that even Ineos wouldn't have the money/inclination to do a deal at a £5bn valuation.
It did suggest Spring next year could be a signifciant point in time.
11 Nov 2026 09:52:46
Just a sidenote -I have yet to hear any so called expert from the world of business - Alan Sugar and simon jordan in particular -mouthy as he is he knows about money - who thinks a 90, 000+ seater stadium can be built in the UK in 2027 /2028 for anywhere under 3 billion.
They started building a 63000 seater 11 years a go at around 1.3 billion -completed just under 8 years ago. I tend to agree got to me 2.5-3 billion today for a 90.000 seater.
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