Manchester United rumours 3

24 Aug 2025 03:13:07
Reports of a £90-£100m bid for Bruno from Al-Ittihad. United have said it’s up to Bruno is he wants to accept the move.

Having already turned down something similar earlier in the window, I can see the same outcome.

Is that the right decision from United as it is a lot of money and would help towards rebuilding that midfield.

24 Aug 2025 07:54:44
If we had signed Baleba, then I’d be all for it.

But we didn’t, so I’m not.

Tell them they can have Casemiro instead.

24 Aug 2025 08:50:50
If Bruno wants to move, then take it and go back in for Baleba. I Bruno doesn't want the move, then it's a moot point.

24 Aug 2025 10:14:37
Some small rumours of casemiro with a potential Saudi offer too would you let both go if we could get stiller and baleba this summer.

24 Aug 2025 10:21:14
£120m and let him go, knowing when to sell is as important as buying. He’s 31 in September, he can’t play in the double pivot, he lacks tactical discipline and is inefficient in pressing and defensive actions, he runs hard but it’s not effective work when we don’t have the ball. Baleba would be the ideal replacement as it gives us options being left footed to pair him with Mainoo or Ugarte depending on the opposition. Wharton or Stiller would be great alternatives, although their defensive output isn’t at Baleba levels.

24 Aug 2025 11:08:42
It's the right decision. The club know Bruno is both not the long term solution, but also one of our most important players this season.

Bruno has earned the right to choose whether he wants to take the Mon or stay and help us rebuild this squad.

I suspect he'll come to the same conclusion as he did earlier in the summer. That he wants to stay and help the side for now.

I suspect he'll stay this year while the new signings settled in and some of the younger players develop and hopefully kick on. Then next summer he'll leave safe in the knowledge that other players have picked up his mantle.

24 Aug 2025 11:49:16
If we could get 115 i would take it. spend 30 on a decent stop gap even a loan . give mainoo and mount more minutes and we've got 80 mill in the pot to go big on baleba when we get the chance. often shoehorning Bruno in these days . too good a chance to miss the big money won't be there next year . get cass out too and we can begin a new era with a proper midfield partnership/ partnerships.

24 Aug 2025 12:58:36
He’s our best player by far and captain.

Feels too late to sell him now the season is underway, and the time to sell was pre-Season.

24 Aug 2025 13:03:02
Bruno is our best player. He's not perfect but that's often because he forces it. I want to see him with the better players around him that we have now. Financially it's also sensible to keep him because our chances of making CL places is definitely enhanced with him. It only makes sense to contemplate selling him if we can get Baleba now, and that's been ruled out.

24 Aug 2025 13:15:25
Bruno has been the best player in a very average to poor declining team for the last 5 years. As good as he might be/ have been, he's presided over the worst United team since the EPL began. He's being frozen out of his best position by quality team players. He's clearly not in the club or Amorim's longer term plans notwithstanding utterances to the contrary. If he's willing to go the club should jump at the opportunity to cash in. It's all profit. If it's going to happen let's hope it does so quick enough for a genuine #6 to be brought in.

24 Aug 2025 14:13:05
I expect Bruno will make the same decision as previously and want to stay this season.
What would be interesting is if a deal was agreed for next season, deal to be completed before End of June that gives the club certainty of money to maybe spend for this season.

If he decides to go then the Baleba conversation becomes real again.

25 Aug 2025 08:36:01
100% sell him, he's a disaster in midfield. Not his fault that's ruben, its either he plays 10 or not at all. but 100m is crazy money to turn down. Use money to buy 2 quality midfielders asap.

25 Aug 2025 09:51:42
So we played well against Arsenal with this formation, but didn’t pick up points.

A week later we started well then faded, and picked up a point.

But cue fan meltdown.

Two games guys, you need to relax it’s a long old season.

25 Aug 2025 13:27:57
Sorry grim but yesterday was not lessons learned from last season. utd play without a midfield. Its madness management.

25 Aug 2025 16:43:03
Bruno is the best player if he was playibg at 10, he isn't the best player playing in the middle of the park.

25 Aug 2025 08:35:32
RA spent 200 million to replace our best player with players who won’t score/ assist as many as Bruno, to put Bruno a square peg in a round hole……. it’s a total shambles, but it’s ok we looked good against Arsenal, did not score let one in but it’s ok we looked good….

23 Aug 2025 04:44:24
Welcome to Manchester United Senne Lammens.

23 Aug 2025 10:11:29
A little premature maybe. But it does look like we will be signing him. From the little I've seen of him and from what I can find out he seems like a good young option with a lot of potential. He might take a little while to settle, and being a young keeper he will make a few mistakes, yet he has the potential to be our long term No.1. Hopefully he has the personality for it, you need to be either a little crazy or have supreme self-confidence to be a keeper at our club. Talent alone will not carry you. The pressure is huge and every tiny mistake is pounced on with hyperbole. Just look at Bayindir who apart from the mistake for the goal last weekend actually played well. While the mistake of him being a little weak in the air, he was probably fouled. It was part of a routine that Arsenal did all last season, and despite every keeper knowing what was coming none really found a way to stop it. Most keepers in the league failed to keep that routine out of the net last season.

Personally I felt the majority of the blame for that goal fell to whoever thought having Mount be the guy to pick up Saliba at corners. I really rate Mount, but he is always going to come off second in a physical battle against Saliba. Had it been Yoro or MdL who was tasked with blocking Saliba from getting under the keeper then I'm pretty confident we don't concede that goal.

Keepers are always going to be coming from a standing position to collect that ball, while the opposition know where the ball is going to be played (front post, back post, middle of the goal) and as such can get a run into that position. A player coming in at pace will nearly always beat the standing player. That's why the only way to stop that routine is to block the opposition players coming in at pace towards the keeper.

23 Aug 2025 23:53:13
Mount came off 2nd best because he was fouled by Saliba though, I’ve no idea how the goal was allowed, there was about 3 fouls, it’s just what they do.

24 Aug 2025 11:11:14
GDS, it was probably a foul in the modern game. A soft foul, but a foul none the less.

That said even without it being a foul, Mount Vs Saliba is a physical mismatch, and one where Mount will come second 9 times out of 10.

22 Aug 2025 11:45:39
Fabrizio and a number of outlets are reporting we’re in talks for Senne Lammens.

Who is he replacing Onana or Bayındır replacement?

22 Aug 2025 12:52:21
When life gives you Lammens ….

22 Aug 2025 15:26:14
???.

22 Aug 2025 15:26:54
???.

22 Aug 2025 15:31:53
Both I hope.

22 Aug 2025 17:47:09
Onana hopefully.

23 Aug 2025 03:50:37
Whichever one gets sold first.

23 Aug 2025 10:20:53
Both need replacing, I expect if the Lammens deal gets over the line then we will see one of Onana or Bayindir leave before the window closes. Maybe just on loan, and possibly to Turkey with their transfer window closing on the 11th of September rather than the 1st, or to Saudi with their window closing on the 10th.

We know that there has been interest in Onana from Saudi, and there are rumours he turned up to pre-season with his agent unhappy about his wage cut for not being in the UCL. While Amorim suggests he wasn't dropped for the opening game against Arsenal, it can definitely be seen as him being dropped.

While I'd imagine there will be some interest in Bayindir in his native Turkey.

Personally I think Onana is a better keeper than Bayindir (from what I've seen so far), but if Lammens is to be the No.1 then Bayindir makes more sense as the back up. Supposedly Bayindir has been very impressive in training and the coaching staff are very pleased with him.

I've got a feeling we could see Onana leave this summer. Although I think it'll likely be a loan to Turkey rather than a full sale to Saudi.

24 Aug 2025 12:01:26
Galatasaray need a keeper. I’m sure they’ll be in for either if Toney can’t land ederson and we buy Lammens.

21 Aug 2025 09:19:09
I know we seem to be pushing for a new dm ( if you believe the media), but my guess is they were probably expecting one to get some time over the season and why they sent collyer on loan. Now one is injured that leaves us thin with just Cass and Ugarte. What about using martinez or shaw in there? Both have good engines and can rotate their time on the treatment table.

21 Aug 2025 10:17:13
Is this a joke? Shaw in midfield? Good engine? I can’t believe you’ve typed this and sent it and thought it was a good idea.

21 Aug 2025 10:40:14
Out of all that, this is the only bit you could reply to ?? that bit was tongue in cheek and this should have been on the banter thread but hey ho.

21 Aug 2025 13:04:33
Have you forgot about Mainoo?

21 Aug 2025 15:10:16
RA clearly forgotten about Mainoo and don’t rate him

But Shaw or Martinez in there is got to be a joke, neither should even start in there natural positions let alone midfielders!

21 Aug 2025 16:13:04
If he doesn't rate him then sell him.

21 Aug 2025 16:50:38
here he is, german. the man who knows better than qualified football coaches.

21 Aug 2025 19:53:28
So why does the qualified coach RA play him then?

21 Aug 2025 20:00:39
Mainoo situation seems a bit weird, Amorim says he rates him and has big plans, but it seems he will be an understudy all year to Bruno. Maybe Bruno is being slowly phased out during the year?

21 Aug 2025 20:25:09
Or, RA intends to use Mainoo as an understudy and replace Bruno when we're ahead in games rather than chasing them, and there's no inconsistency in what RA is saying at all.

21 Aug 2025 20:34:40
Who is injured.

22 Aug 2025 09:16:52
Mainoo is highly rated by Amorim and the club. The rumoured view inside the coaching staff is that he lacks the stamina and running power in the double pivot. However, this is something that can be worked on and improved, which is what they are doing. He has a specific training program to increase his pace, power and stamina when running.

He already has the vision, reading of the game, and technical skills, all of which are much harder to coach into a player. We have to remember he only turned 20 in April. I think his meteoric rise into the team under EtH has made people forget just how young and inexperienced he is right now.

He had a lot of injuries last season, which is a sign that he might have been over played at his age and level of physical development. Which if you saw the photos of him training during pre-season you'll have noticed how much bigger he is and how he has filled out a lot now compared to his first season. Highlighting how he wasn't fully developed physically when he was playing 180 minutes a week under EtH.

He will get plenty of playing time this season, but it will be as an understudy to Bruno. He isn't really suited to playing as one of the more defensive midfielders, while his relative lack of running power means that he cannot be paired with Casemiro. Meaning the only midfield partner he could play with to form a balanced midfield is Ugarte, which we saw during pre-season.

He is being groomed to be Bruno's replacement. Bruno remember isn't an ideal fit in the double pivot due to his tendency to chase the ball and be out of position. He is also more of a passer than a ball carrier. Which isn't the ideal profile for Amorim. But his leadership, energy, stamina, and his creativity means he has to be in the team more often than not. That said I wouldn't be surprised if Kobbie has started to take his spot by the end of the season. He just needs to improve his stamina and running power.

22 Aug 2025 10:33:17
Shappy - like you said Mainoo looks to have bulked up even more which will surely affect his pace, stamina and his ability to run more.

22 Aug 2025 11:47:00
1 game into the season, I guess Amorim doesn't rate Heaven either?

22 Aug 2025 15:33:54
Ports,

It’s mad isn’t it some of the nonsense people come out with. OP, you asked 1 question in your post, so yes that’s the bit I responded to.

23 Aug 2025 10:25:23
Ports, spot on. We have a squad of 31 players, with another 4 first team players already out on loan. At best Amorim can play 16 players in a game (11 starters and 5 off the bench) . Does that mean the other 15 players aren't part of his plans?

Rubbish, the reality is that Mainoo is behind Bruno right now, and the in game situation didn't really suit bringing him on off the bench.

23 Aug 2025 10:40:01
Sim, not necessarily. Adama Traore is an absolute tank, he looks more like a body builder rather than a footballer (and sometimes he plays like one ? ) . Yet he is absolutely rapid and has the stamina to bomb up and down the pitch all game.

I agree if you bulk up too much or in the wrong way then it can absolutely effect your mobility and stamina. We just have to trust that the coaching staff have a better understanding of how to build strength and muscle in the right way while also improving stamina and pace. It can be done.

I think a big part of Mainoo getting bigger is just him naturally filling out. We have to remember he was just 18 when he started to be a regular for us. Most young men don't fully fill out into their bodies until their early 20's.

Mainoo need to increase his lung and heart strength, I expect he'll be making good use of the new facilities at Carrington. That will increase his stamina. His pace isn't too bad, it's his acceleration that really needs to improve. He needs to be quicker over the first 5 yards or so. That is what Amorim needs from his midfielders so that they can jump to spring a press and win back the ball. The opposition need to feel that they can pass to a player as they aren't closely marked, only for our players to quickly make up that distance and win back the ball.

That's where Kobbie needs to improve. Can he develop that explosive pace over the first 5 yards to enable him to become a better ball winner in Amorim's pressing midfield. That pace is also needed to quickly recover back into position when we lose the ball, especially as we play with a midfield double pivot often up against a midfield three. Our midfielders need to have the stamina and pace to cover a lot of ground quickly.

20 Aug 2025 15:49:35
Sancho wants 10m to walk. When has he run? It got smacked me that a lad with great talent is not aiming for higher and more in life.

I feel sorry for his family and kids because school and social life means he is the laughing stock for centuries. Wait till his children start asking questions.

20 Aug 2025 19:11:13
We pay him £13m a year, why would we pay him £10m to walk away.
Keep him on the books and make him do promotional work around the world hosting fan forums for 12 months, let’s see how long he lasts.

20 Aug 2025 20:20:26
Including the amortization cost of the last 10 months of his contract of about £12m he's going to cost us 80% of his £13m salary. So around £22m in total. You would think most clubs are going to steer clear of a players who has been rejected by United and Chelsea and who, rather than grasp an offer to play football somewhere, would prefer to sit on his arse for the next 10 months. Itv would be worth it for United to sell him for £20m and cover 1/ 2 the remaining salary commitment, but a player who was highly touted, was once considered to be of international quality, can't even command a £20m transfer.

21 Aug 2025 06:45:08
All this about Sancho, are we talking the same player that Shappy said was so good and along with Onana was the missing part of the ETH master plan of a jog saw with his intricate play, speed and precision…. was going to take us to the moon…. how did that go!

Was always a waste of time even at Dortmund and everywhere he been, the red flags were there, still we were stupid enough to give him a contract so all of our own making and he milking that.
No principles or honesty in football.

21 Aug 2025 10:18:27
That stalker is back Shappy, he knows what you said well before he had an account, creepy at best.

21 Aug 2025 13:59:14
If he’ll walk for 10m I suspect he has somewhere to walk to. Hopefully they will offer him 4m see what happens.

21 Aug 2025 15:11:20
GDS, I have been able to read for far too many years! Is that difficult for you to grasp…. Clearly is! So carry on.

21 Aug 2025 18:03:14
Eth didn't sign sancho. He inherited him. i'm no eth fan but we can't blame him on sancho.

21 Aug 2025 20:03:29
Sancho appeared a good signing on paper, shame his talent never made it off the page.

18 Aug 2025 12:59:56
Sancho. It seems he's turned down both Roma and Beziktas. Not sure if he has word of something else in the pipeline or just being greedy. he's probably regretting not accepting the Chelsea offer now.
Let him rot in the academy.

18 Aug 2025 14:30:38
Nah we've got a good academy and wouldn't want his attitude rubbing off.

18 Aug 2025 15:25:23
He wants to run down his contract / get a loan so he can get a big signing on fee as a free agent next year.

18 Aug 2025 17:04:00
Wallace you may be correct on that front. If we believe the stories nothing he does makes any logical sense to his words.

Wants to get out of Manchester and be a big player somewhere
Rejects Chelsea as he wanted more than the £150k they offered
Rejects Juventus and Roma who are offering between £100-120k
Rejects Saudi/ Turkey who potentially would pay him his salary demands as he thinks he should be in a higher league/ team

Pick what version of freedom you want. other than none of it and believes that we will be forced to give him a loan and he can negotiate a bigger salary with no fee.

Crazy situation and potentially he needs to be careful of the message he puts out there with clubs having buyer beware fear going forward.

18 Aug 2025 17:38:37
Any club next year would be silly to offer him a big signing on fee and large wage if he hasn’t played for a year, behaved the way he has and essentially he’ll be unemployed. So clubs could offer him a lower contract offer or he’s without a club. He’s playing a silly game IMO.

See Garnacho’s not in the Argentinian squad for World Cup qualifiers next month. Really don’t know who advices these lads.

18 Aug 2025 21:27:23
He's probably holding out in the hope that Dortmund will come in with a ridiculously low offer at the last minute.

18 Aug 2025 21:50:56
The issue is slightly different as I understand it.
He has made it clear to clubs he is willing to take a lower wage but he wants a pay off from united for the last year of his contract of up to £10m which the club don't want to give him.
He feels he is entitled to it and contractually he is.
He knows if we don't sell him we will have to loan him and cover the wages anyhow.
Both parties playing hard ball waiting on the other to blink 1st.
So in the end they will both comprise somewhat. He will get 5m as a pay off that will leave a loss on the books on his exit which we don't want or need.
Messy situation if we were under no psr restrictions and were cash rich he'd have been fine long ago with his cheque.

19 Aug 2025 01:50:16
We are probably trying to cover his book value so no loss hits our accounts. If he tries to get his wages too, that is an extra 10m plus his book value to avoid loss.

Embarrassed for sancho if noone is willing to pay 30m for them. Say everything really.

19 Aug 2025 07:26:17
Don’t we have e an ESports team we good put him in for a year, seems to be the only thing he is good at.

20 Aug 2025 14:37:24
Rumours about sancho not going is his greedy agent wanting stupid commission money. Its what put off juve. I mean if true and he had a chance to go to juve. he needs a slap and a new agent.

20 Aug 2025 19:51:12
To be fair his agent isn't going to make any more money out of him after his next move. He knows he's flogging a dead horse.

20 Aug 2025 20:07:00
I honestly think he may well have serious personal issues, or he’s just holding out for a return to where he feels at home in Dortmund.

20 Aug 2025 22:25:06
That being said, Spurs may get desperate soon enough and come and get him. Feels like the perfect match.

15 Aug 2025 16:56:39
Ornstein: United looking to proceed with Baleba. Fee too high even though Baleba wants United and unhappy at Brighton. So the Cameroonian rumour was wrong. Perhaps Hjulmand could be on the radar, if anyone at all.

15 Aug 2025 17:13:54
Not looking**.

15 Aug 2025 17:50:12
Ederson from Atalanta would be my next choice.

15 Aug 2025 17:57:35
Almost right. United *not* looking to proceed. And Baleba *not* unhappy at Brighton!

15 Aug 2025 18:34:28
Douglas Luiz agreed terms with forest. need to agree it with juve . building decent squad there.

15 Aug 2025 19:21:48
Isn’t Wharton the next option?

15 Aug 2025 21:38:28
Roll the dice, go with what we have, last year was a hoot.

16 Aug 2025 10:29:37
I think the true story is that the deal was never on. United asked, Brighton said they aren't selling this year even for 100mil United said are you sure. Yep not selling from Brighton so United moved on.

16 Aug 2025 12:44:41
Utd need more than one quality midfielder.

Why not go for Ederson or Wharton this year and back in for Baleba next year?

16 Aug 2025 17:25:53
The tweeter account that broke the deal agreed news has doubled down and said the move is still on…. brave move fella.

17 Aug 2025 20:08:01
We need a high energy combative midfielder who will drive us forward. All the midfielders mentioned (Ederson, Wharton etc) are very good players but they are more holding players than forward driving. I think that Baleba is the best suited to what we need although the price tag is too high I feel.

14 Aug 2025 21:06:17
Cameroon outlet that broke Brighton to Lille for Beleba reporting United have agreed an overall package of €112 for Baleba.

15 Aug 2025 09:24:38
Every rumour I see the price gets cheaper and cheaper. Some fantastic business by Wilcox.

15 Aug 2025 11:21:21
According to the Brighton manager Baleba will not be leaving. Assuming this is what we’ve been told behind closed doors, it may be time to move on.

15 Aug 2025 12:10:25
Reading now manager has said he's confident Baleba is staying and Brighton turned down the offer

Who really knows though.

15 Aug 2025 13:04:17
Press saying this morning that the backup plan is the danish guy from Sporting. Who knows.

15 Aug 2025 13:48:21
Hjumland seems like a good player but does he fit the athletic profile that Amorim has specified. From what I've seen of him, he's really not very quick, but is a very good reader of the game. What I like most about Baleba is that it's more obvious how Mainoo can play beside him. If Sancho, Garnacho and Hojlund all go over the next week or so then I expect us to up whatever we've bid for Baleba.

15 Aug 2025 13:49:41
I’ve read that the Brighton manager stumped up €200 himself to keep the player at the club.

15 Aug 2025 17:00:16
Move off for Baleba as per Ornstein.

15 Aug 2025 18:23:16
Time for Kone to step up.

16 Aug 2025 05:51:13
Kone nowhere near able to step up yet, just not ready, Ugarte poor, Not sure RA even fancies Mainoo in there, so Cass will be our go to in midfield if we don’t sign a midfielder now…. But just because we not going for Brighton boy, who let’s face it fee was ridiculous we will probably still sign someone else.

14 Aug 2025 20:55:18
Rumour deal agreed with Brighton € 112 million, be amazing if true!

14 Aug 2025 22:00:31
Amazing profit for them too.

15 Aug 2025 03:59:38
I can't see us spending anything like that.

15 Aug 2025 07:54:09
I also can’t see that being true.

If for some reason this is true, I already feel bad for Baleba. He would be joining a great club but with the amount of press United get, he would need to score a hatrick every game for the press to not constantly run stories saying £100m flop!

16 Aug 2025 21:52:38
Not sure about that Fallguy.

As long as he runs around a bit he'll be fine.

14 Aug 2025 16:50:22
Rumours that Roma have offered £20m for Sancho.

14 Aug 2025 18:00:19
Sadly, I can see Sancho digging his heels in. Why move abroad for less money when he can sit around doing nothing for 12 months and then get a big signing on fee next summer?

If he does go this year, we’ll probably need to pay him off, which will eat up a big chunk of any fee we’re able to get for him.

14 Aug 2025 18:51:46
He was reported willing to reduce his wages to go to Juve but the deal doesn’t have seemed to progressed.

If he stayed, then his take home would be around £7m, if he moved somewhere like Italy, then only 50% of income is taxed, so he could be taking home the same amount on a lower overall wage to the club, which explains the williness to reduce his wages.

If Roma were offering £20m I would be snapping their hand off, get him off the books and away from the club.