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14 Aug 2020 10:17:01
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13 Aug 2020 20:22:33
Few journalists reporting periera has asked to leave. Stating he wants more game time.

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13 Aug 2020 23:02:03
Always said he’d be a great 5 aside player. Very skilful. Not a Premier League player though - matches just seem to pass him by. He’ll find a good club on the continent and make a decent career out of the game though and wish him all the best.

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14 Aug 2020 08:46:17
I find him very frustrating. He seems like a good lad, he's got the skill to do better, doesn't seem to be particularly lacking in any area, and I can't see why he hasn't pushed on. It feels like he has all the ingredients to be a much better player than he is, but for some reason he just can't make them all work.

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14 Aug 2020 10:14:50
No loss.

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13 Aug 2020 19:51:27
So the latest from Phil Space, ace reporter, in papers everywhere, is Ben Chilwell for £80m.
Thoughts?

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{Ed0666's Note - Surely Sancho and chilwell in the same window is not a financial realization even for a club as wealthy as United?

13 Aug 2020 20:19:16
So we are signing Sancho for 120m, Koulibaly for 90m, Grealish for 80m, Chilwell for 80m and Rice for 70m.

Next everyone know United are going to smash out 440m in one window 🤦‍♂️.

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13 Aug 2020 20:22:56
Not a chance that’ll happen, apparently we want a younger lb to be backup to shaw and move Williams to backup for awb.

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13 Aug 2020 22:02:13
We already got the 17 year old from Madrid.

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13 Aug 2020 23:48:41
I don't see that deal happening at all.

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12 Aug 2020 14:52:17
Good afternoon ed002, sorry to bother you but has there been any update with dean Henderson. There's was a suggestion he was having talks with United about his future and a plan for next year. Just wondered if his situation is any clearer?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I would think he is on holiday right now but as I said before I would expect another loan to Sheffield United is his preferred option but they are now actively pushing to bring in another goalkeeper this summer as they don't know where they stand. Manchester United will look to a new contract to bolster the sale price.}

12 Aug 2020 15:26:47
Thanks ed002. I really hope united keep him long term but that’s maybe not an option. He can’t sit around and wait for us to decide on ddg etc so time will tell I guess. Have a nice afternoon 😀.

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{Ed002's Note - And you Tim.}

13 Aug 2020 09:32:51
No point him coming back to fight for the jersey if DDG is already deemed the No1. I’d expect him to go on loan again next season.

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13 Aug 2020 16:09:31
Be silly to sell Deano at any point, I get he won't want to be loaned out to Sheffield United every year but imo and I've aaid for a while I think he should come and replace DDG.

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13 Aug 2020 18:03:35
Wrd makes u wonder why they were so determined to throw money at ddg when we have henderson waiting to play for us. Weve made it so its hard now to find a buyer for ddg. Not that i'd think he would be available.

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14 Aug 2020 05:52:23
Surprised United didn't use a Henderson loan to entice Dortmund to sell Sancho.
I know Burki signed an extension last month but there have been questions asked of him lately and year or two in another league would be a good learning experience for Dean.

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11 Aug 2020 21:14:04
Looking through Uniteds alternative options to J. Sancho.

F. Chiesa doesn't seem to keen on a move.

F. Torres has moved on.

Are we still considering the 'risky but viable' Under Ed002 or has there been additions to the list of alternative targets?

Coman on loan is the other I remember being mentioned along the way.

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{Ed002's Note - Chiesa will likely move but to elsewhere. Torres has gone to Manchester City. I would not hold your breath about Coman. A third party "representing" Ousmane Dembele has spoken with Manchester United and is trying to get a discussion going with Barcelona.}

11 Aug 2020 21:49:34
Thanks for that 002, can you see O. Dembele wanting to move to the EPL, more importantly, to Manchester?

I now its not a question you can answer easily but thanks in advance for any extra info . if there is any.

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{Ed002's Note - Ousmane Dembele knows that his time is up in Barcelona and that options are few. Barcelona have him on their lengthy list for sale or trade and he could be the only way they could do something with Neymar this summer. There is no reason to assume a move to England would be out of the question - perhaps even a move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, overweight tattooed women pushing wheelchairs with kids who look like their brothers, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street with only chips & fried curry to eat.}

11 Aug 2020 22:02:12
Dembele would be a disaster. talented for sure but he doesn’t seem fully invested and committed and he also gets injured even more than Phil Jones. No doubt that’s who we will end up signing 🤦‍♂️.

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11 Aug 2020 22:06:37
Loan move for Bale? I’m sure Real would subsidise some of his wages.

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11 Aug 2020 22:13:48
You're wrong Ed! He can also have a Yorkshire pudding wrap if he heads down to Piccadilly Gardens

The rest is pretty accurate though.

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12 Aug 2020 07:42:54
How about bringing back Zaha?

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12 Aug 2020 08:52:59
zaha- he plays on the left when we are needing someone on the right Eric?
If we are going for a right sided player, Bernadeschi if available would be a good shout.
Costa 29 seems a bit like the perisic of last year, ed002 has already give info on chiesa, coman and dembele so it looks like we are reeling down the list of alternatives. Probably put a bid in for Kanchelskis or do what we usually do and pay up for sancho:)

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12 Aug 2020 09:49:23
In addition, just noted ed002s comment on the european pages that Bernadeschi is being offered as available by exchange or sale.

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12 Aug 2020 10:58:24
With good reason cooky. He is decidedly average. mind you could fit in well in that case.

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12 Aug 2020 11:08:00
Cookyman, Bernadeschi has poor goal scoring ratio.
He has scored only 5 goals in 2 years.

If Sancho is not attainable, we must go for Adama Traore.
He is improving every year.

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12 Aug 2020 11:10:38
I read an interesting article about Dembele recently. It suggested that Barcelona had conducted a internal investigation to understand why he gets injured there. He was never injured at Rennes or Dortmund so they contacted his former coaches and had the Aspetar Clinic in Doha Go over his GPS data in games and training. In training, only 20% of the time he is involved in plays was spent sprinting, while in matches that figure rose to a staggering 90%.

Apparently his lifestyle is good these days he has a personal chef and his agent and family support him to be a good pro.

Essentially the article concludes that Barca’s training style is responsible for his injuries. Apparently De Jong has found their training challenging in a similar way.

If managed correctly it sounds like he could be a great asset.

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12 Aug 2020 11:14:23
I hope we give Dembele a wide berth, he neither has the attitude or the ability to stay fit long enough to be worthwhile.

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12 Aug 2020 11:37:52
He looked the business before he went to Barca. I’d love him to join.

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12 Aug 2020 12:08:28
what do you mean by that ken.

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12 Aug 2020 12:27:11
TRD again it comes down to opinions -traore isn't an outstanding scorer to be fair -
i think we will get sancho by paying up as this drags on but although he is a talent, imo he is vastly overpriced and success has come in the bundesligue not the EPL which is a much tougher place to shine. we have other positions that could be sorted using the figures quoted for 1 player ; don't think it makes sense to put all our eggs in one basket.

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12 Aug 2020 12:47:03
ID take Dembele over Jadon if it is half the cost and then go and buy a CB and CM.

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12 Aug 2020 13:30:22
I know we all have our opinions on particular players but you make a good point Singh - let's say we could get Koubilay-VD Beek + Dembele rather than blow all the money on Sancho would make sense ( offloading Smalling, Rojo Lingard) .

The 3 I mention are just the first 3 that popped into my head - they are quality and would improve the team which was always the first objective according to SAF.

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12 Aug 2020 14:47:07
I’m not sure what price people think Dembele will go for, but if people think we could get him, a midfielder and a cb for the Sancho price, he’d have to go for about £10m.

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12 Aug 2020 21:07:39
Hi cooky i don't ever remember him having a good game. I've seen lots of him coming on as a sub or being taken off. He gives away the ball a lot. He does work hard but imo is decidedly average.

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12 Aug 2020 23:34:26
Bfb I would take Vdb and Dembele and go for another cb instrad of Koulibaly as i think he is reckless and we got a player like him in Baily already.

I remember ed sayin Barcelona are desperate to get rid of Dembele and will listen to decent offers and nothing as extravagant as Jadon.

If he puts his head down then he could be a very good player for us.

He is fast, technically very good and can score goals.

It is the attitude which has been the issue and that's the only concern I have with him.

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13 Aug 2020 13:50:52
Dembele would struggle to get through the medical. If we miss out on Sancho and Dembele is an option on loan then I would entertain that idea but I would not purchase him at this time unless it was for a very low fee, on low wages and a small contract length. He missed 30 league games last season which is a worry.

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13 Aug 2020 18:20:28
Ed I’m not sure if you’ve answer this, but do you know if dembele would be a permanent transfer or a loan? Only reason I ask is the links to Coman being a loan deal.

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{Ed002's Note - There are no agreements in place about these players.}

13 Aug 2020 18:24:38
What type of fee are Barcelona looking for with Dembele Ed? Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - As much as possible. You should ignore the fees.}

11 Aug 2020 15:00:03
Ed02 Dortmund gave us the 10th August as a deadline to get the Sancho deal done.

Do you know if all talks are now scrapped or was this a ploy to push united into agreeing to their price before their pre season camp began and they are actually still in negotiations?

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{Ed002's Note - It was driven by the start of their pre-season, nothing else. There is no need for negotiations.}

11 Aug 2020 16:00:13
Ed, I’m assuming this is because the writing is on the wall as it were for United and it is simply a case of paying the money or the transfer doesn’t happen. Is that accurate?

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United has shown no indication that they are will to complete the transaction.}

11 Aug 2020 16:23:00
Thanks Ed. So the club hasn’t even made a formal ‘bid’ for the player?

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11 Aug 2020 17:10:21
Ed002 does Woodward involves in talks with Dortmund fir Sancho or he will judt sighn the deal (if agreed) . I don't want to criticize, i just see so many people moaning about Woody and i don't think it is fair . For some people it seems like woody is at fault even for bad whether in England.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained before that others are involved.}

11 Aug 2020 18:11:22
Thanks Ed002.

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11 Aug 2020 18:46:57
To me it seems that every other club has decided that the overall cost of Sancho is far too high, and Dortmund are happy for the player to stay another season.

In contrast, United think that a club with no real need to sell will just lower their price.

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11 Aug 2020 19:22:42
I wish the transfer window was over and we can just talk about football rather than second by second updates of one transfer that May or may not happen, slagging off people we don’t know about their negotiation tactics we have no idea about trying to represent their club’s best interests which we also know nothing about.

Anyway, rant over. France is nice and sunny right now
And I’m having a super holiday.

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11 Aug 2020 19:26:06
Dortmund have only one market for Sancho this summer.
Next summer his value drops but there maybe more options.
Agent fees caps are also planned.

Sancho can push this, his agent can change their costs and Dortmund said all the same things when they sold Dembele. Selling clubs are termed so for a reason.

It’s going to happen.

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11 Aug 2020 21:19:14
Apparently his contact runs until 2023 so they don't have to sell this summer or next.

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{Ed047's Note - 30.06.23 to be precise

12 Aug 2020 08:56:50
Dortmund have been using a 3rd party during negotiations which has complicated the situation as I understand it. The deal isn’t ‘dead’, but United need to cough up the money. I don’t think the club will let this one slip away.

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{Ed002's Note - I think you misunderstand a little about the third parties. That is not the issue.}

12 Aug 2020 12:33:21
Happy to accept that Ed but could you give me a bit more than that? My understanding of it is that it increases the money ie money has to be paid to the ‘negotiators’ and that this introduces yet another level of communication which prolongs the process. What am I missing?
Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Your understanding seems a little twisted. Agents are involved as they want what is best for their client - they negotiate the deal with the buying club, the exit provisions with the selling club and represent the player in discussions. They can charge (at the moment) what they like for those services. In certain countries, notably Germany, qualified lawyers need to conclude any deals and deal with contracts. German and other countries require all agencies to also have a lawyer as part of their team if the are registered in Germany. Where clubs employ third parties to do this, they need to be paid - so for instance, Chelsea use the same chap for dealings in Germany and he sends them a bill when he is done.}

12 Aug 2020 12:36:02
Ed002 sorry if that's answered but what's the point of having a third party negotiating in behalf of you?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation.}

12 Aug 2020 12:48:34
Thanks for the clarity Ed. Much appreciated.

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11 Aug 2020 02:57:26
Hey Ed any truth in the Alex Telles rumours, has Luke shaws time come to an end?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by MU.}

10 Aug 2020 18:59:58
Anyone know who Daniel Harris is?

He seems to think sancho will hand a transfer request in.

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10 Aug 2020 19:06:22
Can’t remember who he writes for, a few places I think and apparently he is reliable though others might need to confirm that.

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10 Aug 2020 20:19:42
In short Tim you don't know🤣🤣.

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10 Aug 2020 23:01:55
Have you been writing Boris’ press releases Tim?

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10 Aug 2020 23:04:33
😂 pretty much. but he writes for the guardian so that’s better than the star or sun.

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11 Aug 2020 11:56:29
Only teasing Tim😂.

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11 Aug 2020 12:49:08
No worries ken. I’m thinking of running for office 😉😂.

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11 Aug 2020 15:33:16
It was a politicians answer alright😂😂 either that or Vikki pollard groom little Britain no but yeah but no but yeah but.

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11 Aug 2020 16:58:42
Far too concise for a Boris press release.

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11 Aug 2020 20:17:04
I’m Dominic Cummings without the lockdown breaking antics 😂.

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10 Aug 2020 16:18:48
Is the Sancho transfer now resolved?

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{Ed047's Note - yes he’ll be there on Friday

10 Aug 2020 16:31:33
Is that confirmed for sure Ed or something you think is likely?

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{Ed047's Note - it was tongue in cheek prodigal, who knows if he’s coming or not.

The latest according to Dortmund is no but that could be just trying to get you to pay his way over the top valuation as you seem so desperate again.

10 Aug 2020 16:45:46
Where Altach Ed?

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{Ed047's Note - anyone’s guess mate 🤷‍♂️

10 Aug 2020 16:48:54
All part of the fun of being a United supporter Ed.

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10 Aug 2020 17:45:58
Could be worse Ed047, could be signing a past it 32yr old winger on huge wages on a 3yr deal deemed not good enough by his current club, coupled with wasting one of the worlds great midfielders by leaving him on the bench to collect his £350k wages, only to replace him with the likes of Xhaka😂😂😂. Topping it off by embarrassingly begging a striker to stay at the club who doesn't actually want to be there because you're THAT bad.

Talking of desperation, didn't you pay 3x over the odds for Lionel Messi? Sorry, i meant Nicholas Pepe🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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{Ed047's Note - 🎣 I don’t half love you scholesy! 🤣🤣

10 Aug 2020 18:55:47
He said that about dembele and he was sold.

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{Ed001's Note - yes but Dembele did a midnight flit, literally just vanished over night, fleeing Germany, that precipitated his sale after they found a number of other issues he had left behind. Particularly the state of his apartment, which ended up in a court case for damages.}

10 Aug 2020 19:28:29
At the end of the day, we know the price. If we match it he comes. My view is, if this is the managers number 1 target then we should get him, but I don’t make the decisions. It will be interesting to see what happens. I don’t think a certain date makes any difference to whether or not the player will be sold before the window closes.

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11 Aug 2020 00:14:53
I expect a deal can still be done if we match their original asking price, but if Dortmund are smart they’ll flat out refuse to negotiate any further and just wait until EW gets desperate.

I feel a little sorry for EW as it’s a tough call as to how to approach this one and he’ll likely end up catching some flack for the way he handles this whatever he ends up doing. Part of me thinks he should have just paid the asking price straight away and got the deal done, but I also appreciate that it’s this kind of behavior in the past that’s lead to us getting bent over a barrel with every deal we make.

Ultimately though, I expect we’ll end up caving somewhere down the line and offering the full amount, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if Dortmund stick to their guns and keep him for another year (although I guess this might depend on whether or not Sancho pushes for a move) .

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11 Aug 2020 05:25:35
Caolan

We as fans always say back the manager, give him the player he wants if he is the managers first choice and all . But sometimes we should be sensible in our business ideas too. Maybe sometimes the managers first choice isn't the best option all things considered.

And if you need an example as to when it is a success when a managers doesn't get his preferred choice just look at Liverpool and Salah.

Sarah wasnt Klopp's first choice. Actually he was 4th choice I think. But the club saw him as the better overall option and convinced Klopp to sign him. And rest is history.

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