Manchester United banter 3

07 Jan 2026 14:27:34
It’s going to be OGS and Carrick again isn’t it?!

07 Jan 2026 14:55:17
It seems so, ken has his fingers crossed it's Ole.

07 Jan 2026 15:13:25
they will get a lot more out of this squad and we might actually qualify for cl. no advocating appointing either long term but both capable.

07 Jan 2026 15:13:51
Looks like it. As long as it’s not permanent then I can live with it.

07 Jan 2026 15:37:14
Has it been OGS and Carrick before?

07 Jan 2026 16:15:18
Carrick was on Ole’s coaching staff first time around mbd.

07 Jan 2026 17:54:16
Id put Ian rush and Stephen gerard in charge before i'd let ole loose on them.

07 Jan 2026 19:08:16
You don’t rate Ole Ken? ?.

07 Jan 2026 19:40:11
If the club put Ole in charge they are an utter joke.

07 Jan 2026 22:41:05
TY eric.

08 Jan 2026 08:41:03
I do rate him. I rate him lower than a snakes belly. Should have been charged for treasonous acts against the club. A complete bufoon. Let's hope we don't have to listen to him choking on his own puke trying to get his clichéd remarks out.


Imo one of the people most responsible for the mess on the playing and mentality side of the squad that's we have today.

07 Jan 2026 13:57:11
Do I think Amorim’s tactics and intractability were right for Utd? No. But do I think he was put in an awful position? Yes. The United squad were far from suited to his system both in terms of players, numbers and style. Wilcox bought him 5 players and Cunha and Mbuemo are bright sparks but they were arguably not needed. Amad, Mount, Fernandez even Zirkzee could have all fulfilled the number 10 slots to a decent enough standard. What was needed were 1 if not 2 CM/DM’s and RWB/LWB.

The attacking stats show Utd had improved but win % was appalling. A lot of posters say it’s down to the system (which is a factor) but arguably it’s simply down to the quality of players. Out of the 25 man squad 1 maybe 2 would start in the 5 teams above Utd. 3 or 4 would maybe get in their squads. From the last matchday squad against Leeds only Cunha would start in any of the 5 teams above United.

Sacking Amorim might see some improvement but overall major investment is still required.

07 Jan 2026 14:26:58
Simply down to the quality of the players? Let's see between now and the end of the season.

07 Jan 2026 14:33:25
I’m still not sure I’m happy or sad about Amorim being shown the door. I wasn’t one if his biggest supporters clearly, after 63 largely forgettable games in charge barring1-2 matches.

But what was appalling is appointing him, and then not backing him. Absolutely pointless.

07 Jan 2026 14:57:43
I think the time to make the change was after the Europa final. It seems the club had to persuade him not to leave after 3 months, and last year was utterly dreadful, culminating in meekly losing to Spurs.

It should have been clear then to everyone that a mistake had been made.

07 Jan 2026 15:19:02
I am actually sad for the man, club, supporters it did not work out. Its never a nice thing when people lose their jobs. It did not really matter what I thought of him as a manager and was hoping i was wrong. reality is he engineered his sacking imo and what he did at that press conference was wild and unprofessional.

07 Jan 2026 17:45:45
I hate when any of our managers lose their jobs. Even Jose! They're all trying their best.

And if they've lost their job it usually means the club hasn't been doing well, which is the most important thing.

I liked the guy a lot, and I was fairly optimistic for the rest of the season, but I think his arrogance and intractability haven't helped him here.

07 Jan 2026 18:44:28
Justa quick question.
How long do you guys think current management would have give sir alex if he was appointed in Nov 2024? Seeing it took him from Nov 86 to May 90 to win anything.
Makes me wonder where the real trouble lies.

08 Jan 2026 07:33:52
Great question zanred and the answer is he would have been gone by 1988, the leadership is an oxymoron. Worst decision ever to get rid of Amorim. The guy took us to 5th without a midfield and we had 8 first teamers out.

They didn't back him in Jan, full stop. Appalling. We just set ourselves back another 3 years, absolutely embarrassing and incompetent leaders. We make Daniel levy, Watford, Wolves ook like they knew how to choose managers.

07 Jan 2026 13:21:08
Short memories on here. When Ole took over from Jose we were 6th and finished 6th.

We finished 3rd the following season, largely because Bruno Fernandes arrived in January and transformed the team, we were struggling before then.

The season after that we finished 2nd, but team performances were already declining, and we relied on individual moments from Bruno. By 2021–22 it fell apart which led to Ole being sacked.

Bruno covered over a lot of the cracks in Ole’s managerial tenure which explains why he currently doesn’t have a club.

07 Jan 2026 14:21:35
Just so I'm clear, we finished 3rd and then 2nd?

07 Jan 2026 14:29:42
He won 14 out of 19 games as interim. I didn't want him as full time manager but that's some run.

Also, that's one massive crack that Bruno covered, 3rd and 2nd placed finishes in 2 full years in charge.

Again, I'm not advocating for him to be full time manager, far far from it. But it's like night and day to what I've just been watching for the last 14 months.

07 Jan 2026 15:45:49
LOL Grim, Bruno arrived bit cracks me up! Not even Bruno was signed but he arrived? Some credit at least to who signed him?
Just like angelred said, I am also not advocating for ole, in my case just reacting to your comment.

07 Jan 2026 15:55:44
Nobody's calling for him as a permanent choice.

07 Jan 2026 16:18:30
Always love this one way bruno love in, when we come 2nd or 3rd its because bruno covered all the cracks and dragged us their almost single handedly.

When we come 15th its only because of Bruno that we didn't get relegated.

Maybe just maybe, the overall team has something to do with it.

07 Jan 2026 10:50:12
Kobe Mainoo

When he made 61 appearances for United and 10 for England, I don't recall anyone saying he didn't have the legs, or he was too slow, or any other negative. What indo remember is everyone raving about this new talent we had found, who scored the winner in the FA Cup final and starred foe England.

Perhaps he lost his way, perhaps his fitness and application dropped, maybe he developed an attitude. Maybe, maybe not.

What I observed was a player being completely disregarded and ignored. That doesn't excuse any poor behaviour on his, or his family's part, his family in particular are acting like children.

Even if he did lose his edge for some reason, surely we incest and nurture him to get him back to the standard we previously saw.

This narrative that he isn't up to it [blah blah blah] has taken hold because RA banged on about it. People have short memories and to want to discard him so easily is madness.

Whatever, I guess he will play now and we will see whether he is up to it.

07 Jan 2026 11:11:50
I feel like I am missing something about Mainoo. I am reading a lot of criticism of him but personally, I haven't seen or read anything that suggests he's a problem? Pictures of him in training look like he's in the best shape of his life, he asked to go on loan to get game time, not requested to leave the club permanently and all this because it is a world cup year and he wants to play football and to achieve this it was basically suggested that he needs to oust the club captain and best player to get in the team?

He's a young lad who I agree needs to work hard and earn his position but I don't think he has a bad attitude? Genuine question because I feel like I have missed something here. I'm not worried about his wally brother and the t-shirt, don't think Mainoo can be judged on that.

07 Jan 2026 11:26:54
No need for incest at any time.

07 Jan 2026 11:29:56
AJH

Incest

I do feel feel that RA just disliked him. I think he is a terrific player who suffered from too much football in his first season, which in turn hampered his development from the consequent injuries he has suffered.

However, it has been noted that he doesn't try as hard as he should do in training. But young players need the senior players to give them a boot up the arse and not just from the manager.

07 Jan 2026 11:33:39
Be interesting to see how quickly he returns and how he plays when he does. All the noise around him, family members gobbing off etc has put the pressure on. If he plays well then you have to wonder why he wasn’t given a chance, if he doesn’t then his United career could well be over.

07 Jan 2026 11:58:57
Noted by who mad hatter?

07 Jan 2026 12:03:46
Top player with a great talent.
He was not ideal for ra's preferred system. Nothing wrong with that.
If the system changes then he will have more opportunities.
Its not rocket science.
The manager didn't see eye to eye with him. Happens in every walk of life.
Another manager will have a different opinion.
Fergie thought he had to get rid of stam and rvn. he had his reasons.

The rationale was not that they were bad players just that their didn't bri g what he wanted to the group anymore. Of course both went on to do great elsewhere.
Since football was invented managers have had differing opinions on players.
Everybody here has different opinions on players and managers so why would you expect different managers to have same opinions on the same players?

07 Jan 2026 12:17:35
Mainoo mount and Bruno all back in training and could get some game time tonight.

07 Jan 2026 12:20:29
Welcome back, TW. A Liverpool fan was asking after you in live chat. Can't remember his full name, but something baller. Referred to you as ken and asked you to make contact.

07 Jan 2026 12:32:47
My biggest gripe is how many people have bought into the narrative that he isn't actually very good, when the evidence we have suggests otherwise.

RA makes random statements about him and then fans start repeating them. Hey ho, we shall see.

07 Jan 2026 13:39:25
A bit like the English people believed and quoted what Boris told them about brexit? sometimes there is no accounting for people stupidity.

07 Jan 2026 14:19:28
We got a manager in who plays a system and mainoo didn’t fit it I’m sure he was asked to tactically and fitness wise improve with the coaching staff. They obviously didn’t see enough and also clearly by his reaction to not playing tells me a lot about his personality. Do I want a personality like that in my club definitely not, we’ve already got a few out the club with exactly the same mentality.
I love it when I see a homegrown player come through and was happy to see him playing, he seemed very level headed but clearly that isn’t the case.

As a 20 year old and you aren’t being picked you try your best to prove everyone in the club what you are about. A lot of 20 yr olds aren’t regulars in the first team. He was fully aware about his brother antics with the tshirt. I hope he leaves and soon. If I was making the decisions I would be trying to get as much as I could for him and reinvest to someone athletic who can play the role we need.

07 Jan 2026 14:32:10
Alright ken. Nice to see you!

I'd love to know the master plan the board had re Amorim. Thought it was all sorted with him and us poor fans with no football knowledge wouldn't understand?.

07 Jan 2026 14:39:46
Thanks Fizz. mad stuff. I was out of contract with the modern world for 9 days or so and I can really recommend that.
Probably Benny. Thanks for passing on.
So RA fired I see.
From what i can see it was a press conference he did begging to be fired. Good clear thinking to get out with a pay off if you feel let down.


So king is dead long live a new king.
I see ole being touted for a short term fix. i'd rather it be Stephen Gerrard than have that waste of space back but its not my decision to make obviously. But 1 bad or several bad employees won't stop me supporting. Happy new year BTW fizz.

07 Jan 2026 14:39:46
Ajh, a part of why he's not here anymore. So much random stuff was said.

07 Jan 2026 17:23:17
I haven't questioned his footballing ability, more so his attitude towards not playing etc. That stinks. If he can put his phone down and actually just play ball, sure I'll forgive him, in time. But let's not pretend he didn't down tools to a degree.

08 Jan 2026 07:41:23
Amorim for me was totally right the way he was switching the culture of the club with academy it's not a right of passage or entitlement. As for the poster who said the seniors should set example for the youngsters to make an effort, smh.

You're kidding right? So we should not expect a youngster to be fighting to outperform the seniors in every training session.

07 Jan 2026 07:39:03
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06 Jan 2026 21:48:31
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06 Jan 2026 20:22:29
There seems to be a lot of disagreement on here after amorims dismissal. Some think he was doing a good job and going in the right direction and others who thought he was out of his depth and tactically poor. I’m more aligned with the latter but honestly I was ecstatic when we brought him in and excited about what he would bring. Sadly results changed my mind, but they did the same for eth, ole, Jose, lvg etc. we have tried all sorts, all styles and all experience levels with some limited success.

There’s clearly more to the story than just the manager and I can’t tell u where we go next as I don’t think Ineos know. We need a clear vision, strong leadership and a manager who can handle the lot. It’s depressing repeating this cycle, but here we are…Will I hope again? No doubt, will I believe again? For sure. Will I end up disappointed again? I really hope not…. surely we have to get it right some time. ?‍♂️.

07 Jan 2026 09:42:50
I think he brought discipline and focus off the pitch. I think he did ok with his line ups when he had a full squad.

What i never understood was is insane management and lack of tactical awareness to get the best out of dynamic changes on the pitch.

We need a strong character for sure, but with some openness to adjust when needed.

Lets not forget, we are near top of chances created, touches in opposition boxes etc. if we have a striker full of confidence then the picture is different.

I didn't like what he was doing with Manoo but also, Manoo looks like he is pulling a trailer with flat tyres. Maybe that's what he did like in him.

Either way, things had to change . onto the next poor sod!

08 Jan 2026 07:52:29
Think this is spot on. He made some stupid decisions the worst of which was switching a cm to a 3 for wolves. That was a poor decision in my humble opinion. But he was a strong character and a stubborn man, with a passion and a belief in his approach. BUT. he was young, REALTIVELY inexperienced and it's clear the players loved him and trusted him.

He Had changed and he had played different systems. He was learning. Yes he wasn't the finished article, but I am certain he was becoming the finished article. Over time he would have continued to learn not to be so wedded.

I my view Wilco and the club fscked him over. They deliberately took him out instead of backing him. They're rubbish, total rubbish. He had 8 players missing. We seemed to have blamed him for Semenyo deciding to go to City instead of United, seems we quickly forgot that Semenyo met Amorim privately in the summer, said he would sign, and we didn't go for him. Despite Ruben wanting him as well as Cunha and MBUEMO. And why could we not afford him? Because we had over a billion taken out the club and were so badly run we had almost a hundred million a year taken out of our costs model and still function with growth. But far too late. People forget pep first 3 years with City. He bought so many players, his budget was limitless. Chelsea have done the same. I've never been more disappointed in a decade of dross. We learned nothing, Ratcliffe is an idiot. He himself said Ruben needed 3 years not just I build a team in my view but to learn the league and to become a better manager by learning by his mistakes. This is a dreadful dreadful decision. I'm so gutted.

06 Jan 2026 20:22:02
Club is absolutely rotten to the core. And there is genuinely 1% chance of us coming out of it with the prats in charge since the 'takeover'.

Very sad state of affairs we find our club in.

Amorim was not the one but wilcox berada and even ratcliffe are just as clueless. Anyone defending them needs a reality check.

06 Jan 2026 18:02:58
I am still gathering my thoughts on what has happened.
Saw comments about being grief stricken and it is akin to that, I'm almost without words on the sacking.
What I am seeing though whilst I gather my thoughts is the level of our fanbase, on here and beyond. Celebrating the one manager who has turned a corner with the toxic squad (something that has been the core cause of the rot at this club) it beggars belief it really does. My opinion only of course, but those that are saying he was crap etc quite simply don't know what they are talking about or are blind when watching the games.

Those that go on to support the likes of Mainoo are rotten. I hope he leaves now and asap. I supported that little rat and he is no better than those that have gone before him. I genuinely hope his career nosedives, he doesn't deserve to wear the shirt.

As for interim manager appointments, if it is Ole again the club are so backwards it is untrue. Ruud yes, Carrick maybe, Fletcher if he gets the results sure give him a crack. But dear god not Ole, he is the worst of the yes men and is stealing a living.

As for the board, if they don't continue to churn the squad through and rid it of the mistakes, then they are deluded that this will change. For me that is their only saving grace is if they follow through and get rid of the likes of Casemiro, mount, Shaw Maguire Ugarte Dalot etc

I give my thoughts on the squad another time and the pathway forward.

06 Jan 2026 18:41:45
Crikey, where to start.

As you say, everyone has an opinion, but then you go on to rubbish others opinions. I respect your view but it doesn't mean I agree with it.

As for Mainoo, how is he suddenly the villain? One of the best talents we have produced for a while and he has been treated dreadfully by RA. As I said, opinions are opinions, but why people can't see that escapes me.

As for RA, rumours now that some players called him Ruben Interim, and that they were frustrated with his rigidity of system. Rumours he told Sem3nyo he would play l3ft wing and he would be changing his sytem too.

I have watched every game this year and other than a couple we have been poor. We have scored more, but also conceded more and seem unable to hold on to a lead.

I guess there are 2 viewpoints dominating on here right now.

The first thinks he was the future, he was building something long term, addressing the culture and would ultimately have led us to success.

The other is he was a one trick pony who realised very quickly he was out of his depth, and 3ssentially sacked himself.

I am firmly in camp 2, but that does not mean i think any less of Fizz or RedMan who hold a diffefent view, none of us sacked him so we really don't need to fall out over this. I have no truck with the 'you have a different view so you are an idiot' approach.

What we can all agree on is that the new ownership seems as incompetent as the last lot.

06 Jan 2026 18:42:16
Casemiro is out of contract. He will probably move on. He will only be re-signed if he accepts a much reduced salary, and probably just for one year. Either way the cost of employing him will go down from >£30m to.

06 Jan 2026 19:48:09
Agree jimbo except about mainoo.

06 Jan 2026 20:03:50
AJH, that comment is purely aimed at the folk who have remained silent whilst RA was gradually steering the ship through choppy waters (even the negative posters must accept we were going in a direction, rather than rounds in circles) . There are a number of posters who have not said a word and all of a sudden it is glorified that the only manager to actually provide a route out of the cyclic nature we once again find ourselves in has been sacked, it is embarrassing.

To be clear, you have made your position clear to all throughout, and I respect that. It is not aimed at the likes of yourself, so I'm sorry if that hit a nerve.

On Mainoo, his conduct has been dreadful. He was given a pathway to the first team, a direction to achieve the greatness he once promised. It is the insta posts, the feigning injury, the t shirts, the liking of posts when Amorim was sacked etc etc. his conduct, not his footballing ability are what puts him in the crosshairs. Maybe I'll calm on that as we weather the storm and go around in circles again, but it smacks of the Sancho/Rashford/Garnacho/Pogba. situation.

06 Jan 2026 20:26:45
Grieving for Amorim, really.

Mainno comment was harsh too. I think you need to put the phone down and breathe.

06 Jan 2026 21:13:49
I think you know Jimbo that I'm aligned with you about Amorim. Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinion I thought the criticism of RA went over into toxicity. The constant stuff about formation and so on, claiming our play is negative, that we haven't progressed etc when all the numbers, and our eyes, tell us differently. I believe that as fans we should back the manager unless it becomes completely and overwhelmingly obvious that he's not up to it, and I don't think that can be clear to anyone.


However I do think you're going too far with your criticism of Mainoo. In Garnacho's case I was delighted he was turfed out. His attitude stank the place up. But I don't see that with Mainoo. I hope he does see this as an opportunity and grasps the chance.

06 Jan 2026 22:00:18
Sorry, I'm not going to let the Mainoo thing go gents.
He was criticised, rightly, for not having the athleticism, stamina, match fitness to play in the formation. He had an opportunity to put in the effort, he chose not to. Instead, he took the oath of throwing toys out of his pram, and the instant gratification fans lapped it up.
Look at Casemiro, I have been a strong critic of his, when he was overweight and labouring through games, and I still want him gone, but look at him this season, puts the effort in pre season and is ready to go, albeit time is catching up with him and he looks exhausted come 70mins.

Just look at how those 2 conducted themselves when told they needed to put in the extra effort.

If you think Mainoo has handled himself well in all this then you are simply wrong I'm afraid to say.

06 Jan 2026 22:11:50
AJH

I just read that many, if not most of the players were right behind Amorim, they did not want him to go. They were not consulted. That goes against your rumour about the players.

06 Jan 2026 22:33:36
Red man, think it's the athletic piece where it was mentioned that the players were not aligned with Amorim.

Also, 38% win rate speaks a lot louder.

07 Jan 2026 04:15:40
Dont trust what media is writing, they are all being fed rubbish by the club to save face. Utd media machine is in full flow.

The page is turned. The marriage is over. Stupid decision to bring someone with such a radical change in formation in when we then didn't have the money or competence to bring in the necessary players to play it. Regardless, Amorim also didn't exactly cover himself in glory either.

We have the next half of the squad to turn over and then perhaps we will have hit the bottom and will be slowly build back towards the top.

07 Jan 2026 06:50:21
Dodgy

Agree on the club media machine, next Amorim didn’t get a Christmas card for Doris in the canteen. The nasty man.

Angel
What was SAF win rate in the 1986 to 90 seasons? It was terrible to watch, poor results but he was sorting the attitudes. No one dissected win %. You got your wish now we are a shambles. Maybe you will be cheering when Ole comes back?

I have no faith in Wilcox or Berrada or SJR. We need new owners completely.

07 Jan 2026 07:35:23
Red man, no ones 'got their wish'. I believed he was out of his depth and handled things badly during his time there. Not sure what you're on about with Ole as I didn't want him to take the job full time in the first place, I'd be happy with him as interim until they can make the right appointment.

Not sure if it's all a shambles at the top as it's made out. I think they tried to do something different with Amorim and it didn't work out. What matters now is how they react going forward and who they appoint.

The hyperbole from fans on here is incredible. They just got a manager appointment wrong. Their first managerial appointment, it happens, this is the first time that they are doing this as a collective. Let's see if they can learn their lesson. They've been sorting out the academy, recruitment and financial issues.

Comparing Sir Alex to Amorim is laughable. The things SAF had to endure and the deep rooted problems within the dressing room, mainly the drinking habits of some wee crippling and he had to root it all out. But as you ask, SAF took over in November and through the season he had a win rate of 38%. The following season he had a win rate of 60%. So there's no comparison there either ? ?.

07 Jan 2026 07:49:05
Excellent posts above by Jim and Red Man.

07 Jan 2026 08:11:12
Well said dodgy and redman.

07 Jan 2026 09:28:10
Jimbored,

I agree with everything you said, except the mainoo part.

DonRed,

I agree with your post.

I do think these ex players i.e class of 92 should wind their necks in. Scholes and Neville failed as managers, Butt only managed Youth teams. They constantly criticised RA, when he was the only one who actually dealt with the negative, toxic players, Garnacho, Sancho and Rashford.

I do feel that RA was developing the team, but his rant after the Leeds match was one step too far. The decision to sack would have been easier had Utd been sar much further down the table.

Lastly, RA main failure was his inability to adapt his tactics to other than 3 at the back. It became his obsession to make it worth. Unfortunately his time has ended, we all must move on and back whoever comes in as interim manager, whether we link them or not.

07 Jan 2026 09:40:08
Mainoo is a child and still proving to be with his actions. How can we be ok with a player behaving this way thinking he just had the right to play. If he’s acting how he is and also his agents/family can you imagine him at 26 when another manager sidelines him we will have another rashford, player power cannot and should not win.

The fact is he wasn’t played because he doesn’t have the stamina or the speed. Not a united player and with the pass few months I hope he’s next out the door with Wilcox berrada glazers and INEOS.

07 Jan 2026 17:26:42
Let's not forget that Mainly wants something silly like $180k/week too guys, that is still not solved as I understand it. Watch Ole sanction a 10x payrise for him ?.

08 Jan 2026 07:55:11
Perfect paots Jumbo and Red an, nothing more to say you guys nailed every single salient point including the references to SAF. I was around then and I remember the rhetoric against him. But thank god we had Martin Edwards and no social media.

06 Jan 2026 16:35:00
The only manager since SAF not to "lose the dressing room" and yet Ahmad says his man management skills were poor.

The only manager since SAF to leave the club in a higher league position than he took over at and yet Ahmad says we are poor.

Ahmad says utter rubbish to watch. Have you actually seen us play this season or did you just type this as soon as Amorim was hired and then just used it now. 4th highest goals scored, highest xg, shots on target etc. all metrics pointing to a highly attacking style of play.

Ahmad asks which club would buy you 15 players to compete. Mate look out your window and you may see the Etihad. Ask Pep this question. Or perhaps drive down the road to Anfield and may be your questions will be answered or even drive to London and speak to Chelsea or Arsenal. All of them have delivered and all of them have bought the players to suit the system. You need to slither out of your hole before making such a statement.

I assume you are one of those instant coffee lover who needs immediate results rather than having a bit of patience to see long term betterment of the club.

If anything you need to admire Amorim to come out and speak out on what he felt was injustice.

06 Jan 2026 16:47:42
Good post UA, that could also apply to angel.

06 Jan 2026 16:49:15
UA worst win rate since the 70s. He was a poor appointment and his record speaks for itself.

He said some of the most bizarre things. Had a go at squad players, academy players, and then the hierarchy. None from a place of strength.

I don't think he ever really had the dressing room, if he had, he would have a higher win rate than 38%. Very poor 14 months and I hope they get the next appointment right.

06 Jan 2026 17:07:00
UA - we have been utter rubbish to watch apart for a handful of games.

06 Jan 2026 17:27:08
As soon as you said it Fizz, angelred justified it ?.

Angelred, let me ask you a question. You say worst win rate since 70s. Take SAF out of the equation and tell me which manager do you fondly remember as being a success? There is a reason that the answer is NONE. The hierarchy is rotten and that flows all the way down. Few have had the guts to come out and question- Jose, Rangnick and Amorim. All outlined the problem and wanted to correct it but the toxicity in and around the club simply allow it and hence the state of the club we are in. The sorry likes of Scholes, Neville can't come out of the time that they played in where we were the big guns. They don't want the club to succeed because that then degrades their time. Jealousy plays a big factor. Out of work pundits they call themselves. Shut them up and half the problem disappears. What have they achieved in management to be telling anyone about it. Until the time, we are likely to remain where we are - "also rans".

06 Jan 2026 17:34:23
Amorim was doing what others didn’t have the bottle to do, dealing with the attitude and culture prevalent through the club. It is now lost and we are back several years again. Next will be the bleating to bring back Rashford.

This is a disaster in that the likes of Wilcox survive, the Glazers don’t have to spend any big money.

This has been a terrible period that SJR should be ashamed of, he sacked the wrong man, Wilcox should have gone.

06 Jan 2026 18:03:53
UA ? couldn’t make it up ?
Spot on RM. It’s a sorry state of affairs for sure.

06 Jan 2026 18:42:33
Why does disagreeing have to be so personal?

06 Jan 2026 18:58:11
for people who are hanging their hat we are tied 6th and xg and all the useless stats, if they don't translate into points who cares. we are 3 points from 12th. Given how he sets us up, his selections, subs, the city and arsenal games coming up were losses and we would be midtable.

I am so indifferent to what's happened and better managers out there and quite a few imo.

06 Jan 2026 18:59:50
I agree Red Man, but only up to a point. We are in a much better position than last year, but, frankly we should be even better off.

I also like the fact that Amorim was not afraid to speak out, but surely he must have been aware how important it is for the club to get back into Europe. We are not in a strong cash position. PSR may be on the way out, but we're still seriously over-leveraged. So extra revenues are essential for the club's finances if we want to be in competition to sign the best players, the ones he needed The fact that he would not modify his approach seemed to me to be a case of cutting off his nose to spite his face, an extremely arrogant approach full of an excess of self-importance. And then to criticize his employers publicly was completely out of order, whether or not what he said was true or not.

I think most of us fans have been realistic and didn't expect us to be competing for the title in year 1. We are prepared to be patient. to a degree. The coach/manager should be thinking the same way, and not having a public hissy fit because he can't get his own way immediately. It's unfortunate, but he had to go.

06 Jan 2026 19:06:17
Tony

That's why i don't post much, people here who are bullies and make everything personal. Athletic article paints a poor picture of him as being inexperienced and one dimensional, showing zero flexibility, add the results and you lose all the equity you have with the ownership even if they wanted it to work out.

06 Jan 2026 19:24:46
It's a bit odd Ahmad, I have a good craic with some posters and then suddenly I am an idiot or a fool ?‍♂️

The Times and Guardian were also quite scathing about him today, I am sure more will come out in the coming weeks. The latest is that he always said he would adapt his system, but then doubled down on his preferred formation. Also that he and Wilcox regularly discussed performance, but this time he blew a fuse. It does sound like he engineered a way out, but hey, that's just my opinion.

06 Jan 2026 19:49:45
Ajh, seems to be a common trend on here and in the chat, posters getting personal and flinging insults.

I think Amorim was the wrong man, his stats speak for themselves. I'm not sad, or gobsmacked or whatever adjectives people want to use.

The man wasn't right for the club, that's why he is no longer here.

I hope they make a good appointment next.

06 Jan 2026 19:56:01
Well said Ahmad and AJH.

That athletic article is about as good as insight into what has been going on.

Reflects poorly on amorim. Not surprising though.

06 Jan 2026 20:21:49
I think the athletic piece highlights a number of serous deficiencies with our club and those running it, including Amorim and Wilcox.

I liked his style, but hated his tactics and football….

06 Jan 2026 20:34:19
UA - no need for this post and single out and individual. Key board warrior behaviour.

I’m glad you have managed to enjoy the last 14 months of football. Personally I know I enjoyed the Everton game last year and Bournemouth this year but that’s it.

As angel says the truth will come out about Ruben Interim.

06 Jan 2026 21:18:21
A lot of over the top reactions to a manager losing his job. And one who deliberately got himself canned by the look of it.